70 Replies to “Heh”

  1. But seriously, entertainment, sports or otherwise, is in for a world of hurt. Economics and politics, after years of egregious public exploitation, are aligning to take the industry down.
    Of course you are spot on, correct. The golden goose of the public are weary of laying golden eggs for people diametrically opposed to everything we hold dear. And because the internet has provided multiple entertainment options … I believe I will start spending my time watching kittens playing the piano than ungrateful fools playing a tediously boring game.
    Yes, the economics of BIG sports entertainment has peaked and is now in decline, so yes, kneeling before the racist Queen of political correctness didn’t START the decline. However, just like the MLB and NHL discovered that a STRIKE strips-away the fan base, as people just move on with their lives and find something else to occupy their time … so too will the NFL learn that disrespecting our countries flag and anthem is going to strip-away their fan base. Just think of all the chores women across America will get done instead of fetching beer for their couch potato husbands.

  2. *
    gord tulk says… Sure read like you were
    complaining about the price of tickets.”
    asked AND answered counsellor… move on.
    *

  3. I’ve been trying not to say this for weeks but can’t help it anymore.
    STFU, Gord. Isn’t there a “Jail Sheriff Arpaio” rally somewhere you need to attend?
    Attendance for SF in Santa Clara:
    2016: avg 70,178
    2015: 70,799
    2014: the first year Santa Clara was opened, they averaged 70,744.
    This is larger than the capacity of the stadium at 68,000.

  4. “To get close enough to see the game would cost over $1,000 per seat. We’re not poor and neither is my father-in-law, but who’s going to spend that kind of money?”
    Incredulity at the going rate for a big game (and the cost of a movie these days) indicates I’m reading just fine.
    The market is the market. And there are plenty of people who will pay those sums.

  5. I’m inclined to agree with the thesis that the NFL/sports coverage was already in dire financial straits before the SJW infestation. It mirrors what I’ve seen in a lot of other hobby fields – comics, video games, RPGs. SJWs only attained a position of influence when those markets went into steep decline, By contrast, board games are booming and when the SJWs show up they’re routinely told to **** off.

  6. Must be a class action somewhere in the Anti Trust exemption
    Did not the CFL Riders protest (take a Knee during Canadian Anthem) in an illegal anti-trust action with the NFL players (see last PARA)
    “The NFL has a weak anti-trust exemption that allows them to bargain with the players, negotiate TV deals and set rules as a league even though each team is considered a separate business.”
    “Anti-trust laws were put in place to prevent monopoly or oligopoly companies from anti-competitive practices. Imagine if Ford decided they were going to start paying all their workers minimum wage. What prevents this is that the experienced workers can simply walk away and get a job at GM or Toyota. So Ford is forced to pay a market rate. Instead what they could do is get all the car companies together and conspire to pay all workers minimum wage. Then they could offer no alternatives and get away with it. So that action is considered illegal.
    The NFL is composed of 32 separate teams which operate together as a league. In theory, them negotiating with the Player’s Union or for a TV deal should be considered an anti-trust violation. Congress and the Supreme Court recognized that they aren’t really separate businesses though. They’re linked in a way that Toyota, Ford and GM aren’t, in that they aren’t direct competitors. So an anti-trust exemption is granted for some things. Rather than the teams being competitors (off the field) with each other, they’re really all competing against other sports leagues.”
    “What they couldn’t do is get together with the MLB, NBA and NHL to collectively drive up TV deals. Or get together with the CFL and Arena Football to negotiate player salaries. Those are true competitors to the NFL and it would be an anti-trust violation.”

  7. good god gord, you are vying for stupidest poster in here (you don’t quite out stupid Strad the gay basher yet), you appear to fail the test of understanding “market”. Market is 2 fold entity, one is what people will pay, the other is what some will sell for. With the hi costs now associated with professional sports there is a down limit to “able to sell at” for this product, and if there are losses in the wind, then the low limit maybe what Steve questions as who will pay that. The market is in for a down turn, and many of the “new generation” are not into pro sports like those of current viewers, so they could (probably are) in for a world of hurt

  8. And the second last paragraph of my comment says:
    “The entertainment industry–Hollywood, NFL, College, NHL, MLB, NBA, etc.–are discovering the elasticity of demand. Firstly, they’re driving down the value of their product with their political bull$hit by insulting the majority of their customers. Secondly, they’re pricing their product beyond the seating capacity they’ve built up in the last 10-years.”
    Which indicates your reading is indeed selective. If, however, I take you at your word and your reading is fine then that leaves the alternative which is your comprehension skills are suspect.
    As noted by NEO you asked a question. In good faith I answered your question. Now you’re just being an a$$hole.

  10. Yes … but the question is WHY the NFL Owners are allowing the overt disrespect for our nation (via the Anthem and Flag) ? Is it REALLY their respect for players 1st Amendment rights ? Sure, just TRY printing a political message on your game day socks. Ain’t gonna happen. No, it is because the owners are scared shitless by the 75% black employees and their POWER to call a players strike. And of course the players UNION likes nothing more than an excuse to STRIKE. The Owners have a “virtual” Plantation they call the NFL. Oh sure … they pay their players vast sums of $$$$ … while of course, continuing to amass even greater profits and team valuations … but the NFL is still a Plantation. And the last thing the Plantation Colonels want is a slave revolt. After all they have already spent a fortune; scouting, drafting, trading, and training their human capital. They don’t want any uppity players inciting a revolt … so they give them a little sense of empowerment (on their knees) while obtaining effusive praise from ESPN. I was actually growing ill listening to Sports Center (after I tuned in college football scores last night) … and the Oakland Raiders NBC Sports pregame was vomit inducing … esp. that 1/2 black (I think?) Tony Dungee… gawd what shallow, shallow, man he sounds to be. Yep, the NFL owners are scared of a prison riot by their inmates.

  11. Yes … but the question is WHY the NFL Owners are allowing the overt disrespect for our nation (via the Anthem and Flag) ?
    I really could care less if they stand on their heads, it’s a children’s game…the question is why Trump feels a head of state can demand fealty to the state, attempting to treat citizens as vassals? A draft dodger, at that…bone spurs…riight.
    The country is owned by God and it’s citizens, not the other way around.

  13. Sent this letter to Scott Stinson of the Toronto Sun who blames Trump for the NFL disloyalty to the US.
    Scott, I think you are totally wrong on what this NFL protest means and it has little to do with Trump. As Mark Steyn has written the US may have the largest and most powerful army in the world but still loses because it doesn’t have the will anymore to defend its culture and way of life. There are literally hundreds of protest groups from BLM, intifa, neo-Nazis and every left wing organization dedicated to tearing the US apart. Blacks kill each other by the thousands every year in the US as they do in Toronto with 85% of murders committed by them yet these groups blame the police, whatever, for trying to control these endless atrocities. There is always someone else to blame rather than yourself. The most important issue is as Steyn writes.
    “If and when Islam persuades America to submit, it most probably won’t be through force of arms. The civilizational struggle in which we are now engaged is primarily a culture war. America used to be good at cultural warfare because America once had cultural confidence. The Cold War was in large part a cultural war, and America won it because it didn’t have qualms about demonstrating the superiority of the American way to the Soviet way.
    But times change. These days, many Americans would rather shred their culture than spread it. Cultural shame rather than cultural pride rules the day. And, not surprisingly, people who are ashamed of their culture can’t be counted on to defend it.”
    Leaders across Europe like Merkel and May are so frightened to upset islam that they are willing to let their fellow citizens be raped, sex-slaved and murdered. Here at home Wynne and Trudeau do the same and will support M-103 allowing islam to make further inroads into the destruction of our society.
    Rather than use sports to bring us together the NFL and their stupidity are continuing to rend the fabric of our culture and truly make Diversity is our Weakness continue to our destruction.

  14. “…Trudeau saying that Canada would be better off if “there were more Quebecers than Albertans in charge….”
    Actually LC, he has said EXACTLY that. But on to Sports….
    Professional sports is like a drug…and the price keeps going up. No Average Canadian Family of 4 could in all reality afford to go see an NHL game at an avg of $200.00+ per seat. Add in 4+ ea $10-$12.00 Hot dogs, 2 ea $12-$15.00 Beer, $ 20.00 for parking and its damned near a Thousand Dollars to watch multi millionaires play shinny.
    It’s laughable actually and one of the main reasons I just don’t give a shit when some Billionaire name King states that if the city of Calgary (we taxpayers), doesn’t pony up for a new Multi Billion Dollar Venue to watch Multi Millionaires play their game, they are going to leave. Well don’t let the Chinook hit you in the (_i_) as you take off.
    Long overdue for a reset…Good on Truump for calling these GOOPHS out.

  15. So … I assume that you would NOT like the fact that my wife STILL has her 1st Grade classroom recite the Pledge of Alliegance (every single morning) standing and facing the American flag. Probably the ONLY teacher in the Oakland School District to still do so. That you would accuse her of forcing fealty to the State?
    I would argue that she is teaching fealty to FREEDOM and LIBERTY … because THAT is what the American flag represents to me. It represents the US Constitution which DOES STILL guarantee Free Speech, individual gun ownership and a host of other RIGHTS that flow from God, not man. THAT is what the NFL players don’t seem to understand … that they are DISRESPECTING the very symbol of their FREEDOM … not their enslavement. A Constitution that eventually FREED the slaves and that still NOW guarantees their redress to the State if those FREEDOMS are abridged (note: I haven’t seen the NFL players funding a single Appeal of any “unjust” verdict in police shootings). They should be THANKFUL that America doesn’t have “Hate Speech Laws” … which under Trump might just be extended to include HATE of American institutions. I could actually understand if the CFL players took a knee for O’Canada. Their FREEDOMS have been usurped by … The State … by their boy-King.

  16. Such tolerance.
    You quoting of attendance figures makes no sense. the published attendance for the thursday night game was 70,178.
    the picture was taken at the very beginning of the game – the reasons why are cited ion my post above. My guess is that that is a sell out and that the reason why it is slightly lower than 2015 was some reconfiguration of SRO – adding of some stand-up bar area most likely as that is a fad in stadia these days.

  17. ha ha ha !!!!
    oh jeez. I just had a vision of stadium gophers dashing about with sponge mannequins moments before air time . . . .

  18. …a host of other RIGHTS that flow from God, not man.
    The obvious oxymoron is in your worship of the state when rights don’t flow from it.

  19. I have little tolerance for Fredocons like you, Gord. Voters like you are the reason Canada is the leftist paradise it is.
    You continue to miss the point even if the attendance numbers are fudged: brand new stadium, division rival, first few weeks of season, America’s Passion, only game in town, 35,000.

  20. No, NFL ratings were down almost across the board – one game showed a slight increase, almost all the others showed at least 10% declines in the overnight ratings.
    Other thoughts:
    1- First Amendment doesn’t apply. It says “Congress shall not make any law.. abridging the freedom of speech”. And they haven’t. Business owners have a right to ensure their employees don’t offend their customers – dress codes, for example. So Goodell is full of it, as are the owners (in fact, the NFL handbook says that players should stand, remove helmets, and not talk during the anthem).
    2 – Cheap virtue signalling never accomplished anything. Ask Hillary Clinton.

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