If you’re dead

Of cancer you really don’t care if the hospital that might have saved you has a different medical standard.

The Canadian government says that although Canadians may seek medical care in other countries, they need to be aware of the risks involved.
“It is important to remember that medical practices, health standards and infection control measures in other countries may differ from those in Canada and could result in lower quality medical care,” the government says on its website.

22 Replies to “If you’re dead”

  1. If a country’s medical standards bar it from murdering babies on one end and euthanizing oldsters on the other end just so that the unionized medical staff have more tax money for raises and benefits, then they’ve got Canadian medicine beat right there.

  2. If you are still alive and therefore capable of paying for health care you are of more interest to health care systems outside of Canada making their standards less relevant despite Canada’s supposedly higher standards of potential treatment if you survive the waiting period. A patient in Canada is a cost burden to a bean-counting bureaucrat. A dead person is a savings to the system. If someone can profit from ensuring or prolonging your survival, you are likely to be treated better.

  3. I have been under the US Cancer Protocol for 2 1/2 years (Bladder) I was checked on April 17th before I returned to Canada…Dr in Saskatchewan ordered Ultra Sound, Growths found by Endoscopy, & I have an Operation date set for July 6th….
    I think I got Lucky that Saskatchewan didn’t miss the shadows.. Not shabby

  4. A dead person is a savings to the system.
    A dead person who doesn’t use the health care system is a saving. Otherwise, he or she is a loss as dead people don’t pay premiums.
    As the executor of my father’s will, I’m finding out how much the government wants its share of his estate through taxes and fees.

  5. ‘… health standards and infection control measures in other countries may differ from those in Canada and could result in lower quality medical care,” the government says on its website.’
    Or, different standards could result in higher quality medical care.

  6. Guess your gubbment doesn’t want you serfs to come here for treatment, even if we have 3X more MRI and 2X more CT machines than you do, and they are more up-to-date.
    Die, serfs, die some can get your estate tax money and save our own.

  7. Don’t you know that health care is like going to a restaurant: you have to book six months in advance for the best ones?

  8. As the executor of my father’s will, I’m finding out how much the government wants its share of his estate through taxes and fees.
    ‘Free health care’ is not free; is that what you are saying?

  9. It’s not just terminal diseases such as cancer that Canada does a pi$$ poor job of treating,it’s things like joint surgery which can often mean a total wait time from GP to actual surgery of three years or more.
    The media loves to quote best case scenarios in wait times so use the convenient statistics from the biggest hospitals in each Province,but outside those venues the situation is dire.
    Outside the Lower Mainland,we have wait times of a year just for an MRI, but thankfully,a retired Socred politician started the first private MRI clinic 20 or so years back,so we can pay the $1000 and get it done within a week, IF you can afford the thousand smackers. At one time in the early 1990’s,the town of Bellingham,Washington (population about 30,000) had more MRI’s than the entire Province of B.C.
    Canada is chock full of socialists who revile that awful “American medical system”,every socialist politician raises the specter of that “American medical system” if we don’t toe the line and be good little peasants, while they send their families to the USA if a special treatment we don’t have is required.
    Canada’s socialist medical monopoly is a massive boondoggle that serves the public in a very third rate way,but of course on every blog we’ll have the guy who broke his arm and got excellent treatment at the local ER,and will argue vociferously that “there’s nothing wrong with Canada’s medical system”.
    Wait until you need a knee or hip replacement,or are told you can no longer have a colonoscopy because you are over 75 and I guess you don’t count any more.

  10. If the government is so worried about poor standards elsewhere, then it should spend money to fix the broken system here instead of giving trannies their weirdo surgeries.

  11. I get the rationing that is essential to any single payer system. Canada’s mediocre to lousy system covers everyone at roughly the same per capita cost as the three US single payers (Medicare, Medicaid, and VA) which only covers less than half of Americans (but does cover a lot of Mexicans). What I despise is the attitude of treating patients like cattle in chutes and the mentality that reinforces the tyranny of not being able to spend your own money on health care supposedly covered by the “system”.

  12. Let me guess … these 63k Canadians all flew to Cuba or Venezuela for their “quality” medical care ?

  13. Sorry to read about your illness. Regardless of the medical insuance format, quality medical always comes down to … people. Quality people … who CARE about their jobs and their patients. It used to be that virtually EVERYONE who went into medicine were both highly intelligent and empathic … now, I’m not so sure anymore. Sounds like you found a TOP Doctor who does his job seriously … as though his OWN life dependent upon it. I wish you nothing but a completely successful surgery and return to full health.
    Oh … and I wonder how YOU feel about all those “unnecessary” and “expensive” tests that Obama said would be eliminated under his “affordable” care act ? You know, all those “useless” technological advances of Western medicine.

  14. My Dad is currently in the final stages (stage 4) with a gastro intestinal stromal tumor. He is in good shape (other than the tumor) and still was refused the surgery that would give him a shot at life. The conversation was all about pain mitigation and hospice.
    There is no metastazing of the tumor, which often happens with a GIST. There is simply a rationing of medical care that could save his life.
    In the USA, there is no rationing, you get what you pay for.
    Right now that sounds pretty damn good to me.

  15. On a related, depending on your point of view, do you think it was PP, or our very own Henry Morgentaler, who killed the person who would have cured cancer?

  16. A place where Canada’s health care fails its people is the treatment of knee and hip problems especially if you make late eighties early nineties. Our 89 year old Aunt spent the last 2 years of her life with horrible pain because she was ‘too old’ for knee replacement. Yes 89 is a great age but I can’t believe the pain she had to endure at the end of her life.

  17. As every abortion eliminates a person with a unique genetic code, I would wager the guys who could have set up lunar colonies have been long flushed into our sewer system.
    Morgentaler and Trudeau can rot in hell.

  18. A friend in his early 70’s has just returned from his second hip replacement in Arizona. He’s not a rich man by any means, but felt that suffering for two years would be more painful than the $30K for his travel and treatment costs.
    Regarding ‘quality of care’, another friend fell and injured his shoulder in Cabo. He had external treatment allowing him to fly home where he entered our regional hospital for an operation on the shoulder. He sustained a ‘super-bug’ infection which very nearly killed him.
    And as for those who believe in the equal sharing of misery, I’ve always put it this way:
    10 people are in line for knee surgery. One decides to seek private treatment. Now there are only nine people in line. At the same time, the medical services plan fee (I’m in BC) or the taxes he pays that are devoted to medical care remain in the system – meaning more money for fewer people.
    But hey it’s not about care, it’s about ‘fairness’. You should be made to suffer, especially if you have a few bucks more. It’s okay to spend it on a better car or better vacation, but God forbid you have a say in your own health care.
    BTW, that ‘fairness’ doesn’t apply if you are part of a major sports franchise, are a prison felon or hurt yourself on the job. Or a politico.
    On the other hand, if you have a turtle that needs medical attention…
    And having mentioned Mexico and vacations, the Captcha happens to be ‘Cancun, Avenue’!

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