BC NDP/Green Alliance Torpedoes Jobs, Revenue & Notely
By opposing the Trans Mountain pipeline expansion and with it – $46.7 billion in government revenues and 800,000 person years of employment the BC NDP/Green Alliance cripples the Alberta NDP’s re-election chance while sinking Rachel Notely’s Climate Change Plan.
Remind me which province is now a have province that can contribute to equalization payments that Quebec and the Atlantic provinces rely on? SK, MB, and AB are in the hole as is Ontario so that leaves BC. But with this plan maybe not. Frankly I think it is a good thing since equalization is a silly program that creates dependency, but something to consider. Exactly which province will the federal government tap to get the money?
What’s the difference. The NDP are said to be liberals in a hurry which makes the greens dippers on steroids. In other words Left, far Left, and Waco Left. The only difference is how fast they are going to destroy my providence
CPC= pink underwear Left.
Liberal= red tie Left.
NDP= fire engine red Left.
Greens= red hot, on fire Left, the full-retard turbo-nitrous version.
Anyone thinking of a -smaller- government is a RAAAAACIST.
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“Anyone thinking of a – smaller – government is a
RAAAAACIST.”
and, apparently, most canadians are good with that.
you get the government you deserve.
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It is important that the new BC coalition does what’s best for the environment. Thank goodness for the Green Party and their ability to make tough decisions. BC voters chose this government because it is important for all of us.
In recent months far fewer Canadian friends and neighbours/neighbors scoff at our dual citizenship as Trump proceeds to create jobs, reduce regulations, deport illegals and simply enforce the law of the land. We’ll be back in Carolina when the leaves turn colour/color and the Leafs start their march to The Cup, living at a MUCH LOWER tax rate and where literally everything costs less than Ontario even after the exchange rate.
One of my favourite/favorite small pleasures is buying Canadian beer at local Carolina supermarkets (7 days a week, 24 hours a day) that was brewed in Toronto and shipped over a thousand miles south but still sells at HALF the price of Ontario’s Beer Stores!
I’m sorry, Canada, but people get the governments they deserve. It took Americans 8 years of Obama to rise up in rebellion by electing Trump …how many more years must Canada’s federal and provincial Libranos and Dippers ruin our home and native land before Canadians do likewise? Conservatives could have had Max Bernier but chose a quintessential, saccharine-safe “nice guy” instead. Not a week goes by that I don’t thank our guardian angels for being born in Canada and then transferred (as an adult) to the U.S. for a long enough posting to gain citizenship there. We are sooooo fortunate to be able to escape the impending tax hell of Canazuela.
“But where are the clowns? Send in the clowns… Don’t bother, they’re here.”
Yes, well, it gets rid of equalization in one respect, but also that additional revenue is lost to all of Canada. It’s appalling. These people are bent on destroying the economy. You can pressure oil companies to be environmentally responsible (and I think they are these days), but many Greens/NDP/environmentalists seem to want to completely put them out of business — I guess to prevent “global warming”. Oh my, this about as dumb as it gets.
I do need to share my CAPTCHA “The Green Bomb(a)”
“Exactly which province will the federal government tap to get the money?”
Answer: none of them. That’s because equalization money doesn’t come from the provinces; it comes from general revenues raised through federal corporate and personal taxes imposed on ALL Canadians.
Of course, if the federal tax base shrinks i.e., because the economy has gone bust courtesy of the shenanigans of politicians in Ottawa, Victoria and Edmonton, then so will the revenues available for equalization.
What a fu**ing disaster!
The NDP would have been bad enough,but an NDP whose balls are in the grip of the Greens means an end to all the pipeline ,oil and gas exploration jobs.
We are about to be taxed to death,might as well sell the RV and 4X4,won’t be able to afford the fuel.
Even if the Lieutenant Governor allows this charade of a government, an NDP/Green/Speaker minority, it will be very short-lived, with the Liberals poised to ambush it at every turn. If it lasts a year, I’ll be surprised. Rolling the dice: If the LGov dismisses them, we go back to an election now, enraging voters.
A four year “agreement?” It’s not worth the paper it’s not written on. With no situational control anyway, the Libs will gleefully watch the chips fly.
Then she and her Liberals can come to the rescue in the not too distant election. Meanwhile, Greens and Dippers are chained to their desks at the Legislature, out in the hallway or in their Victoria hotel rooms, while the Liberals, not concerned with whipping the entire caucus the entire time, undermine them at every turn, along with by-elections and other vacancy creators.
Two members absent from the new government and they could lose a confidence vote and force the Speaker into partisan mode to prop them up.
I’m not a fan of the BC Liberals, but they’re vastly superior to the rookie statists with the whiff of power in their nostrils, as they change our voting system without a referendum, destroy anything resembling resource development, and unhinge the poor again with more taxes on air, claiming a “mandate.”
Big miscalculation by Mr Weaver, the Green party leader. He gets no glory, unless he gets cabinet seats in a coalition, but all the grief when the “New” Democratic Party messes us, as they will, mightily imho.
The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money. ~ The Iron Lady
Good!
The younger generation needs to learn that only stupid people vote left.
It’s tough learnin’, but it is good learnin’.
So what happens to the Western Separatist Movement now? Sadly, looks to me like a jump from the frying pan into the fire.
“Exactly which province will the federal government tap to get the money?”
Answer: it depends on how many ridings there are in the province which are then pro-rated to the hyperinflated and marginalized tax rates of the electorate. Corporations are a more complex situation and dependent on where there board of directors have apportioned the principle share values if they are publicly traded.
Of course, it becomes problematic when equalization payments are amortized over the terms of various governments but we have professionals in Ottawa who understand the complexities of these complex shawinagans.
The joke is that it is even considered that a coalition is even an option.
So the losers get two kicks at the can – and get to dodge the electorate at that.
If the Greens and NDP want to call non confidence, then let them do so and it should trigger an election. That would cause them to think twice about it.
Unfortunately this can of worms – the losers pushing out the (minority) winner of an election and installing themselves in government – was given great validity when it seemed that would be the only way to get Harper out of office. That was the plan in 2015, and many column inches were given to indoctrinating the public into believing this was ok.
Just because it is not explicitly written in the constitution that it cannot be done, does not mean it should be or was ever intended to be.
Question for the “constitutional experts” the media trots out. Why has this not been done in every election – civic, provincial and federal that has resulted in a minority government?
It has only happened once provincially- in Ontario in 1985 – by the left again.
It happened federally during the King/Byng affair which is used as a justification but to hold that bastardization of parliament as a precedent is where the trouble started.
I agree. Present a budget with the pipeline an essential part. An election campaign where discussion about energy and its 24/7 role in our lives might wake some people from their slumber.
Except that the jurisdiction over pipelines would fall in the final analysis to the federal government vis a vis approval/denial
From the BNA Act:
92. In each Province the Legislature may exclusively make Laws in relation to Matters coming within the Classes of Subjects next hereinafter enumerated, that is to say,
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10 Local Works and Undertakings OTHER THAN such as are of the following Classes,–
A. Lines of Steam or other Ships, Railways, Canals, Telegraphs, and other Works and
Undertakings connecting the Province with any other or others of the Provinces, or
extending beyond the Limits of the Province:
B. Lines of Steam Ships between the Province and any British or Foreign Country:
C. Such Works as, although wholly situate within the Province, are before or after their
Execution declared by the Parliament of Canada to be for the general Advantage of Canada
or for the Advantage of Two or more of the Provinces.
Thus for all the constitutionally illiterate, Victoria can become as bellicose and blowhard as it wants, they won’t be able to stop the approved pipelines as they are constitutionally proscribed from having any final say on the matter.
On the other hand, we can all forget about the Constitution Act 1867 and return to our caves sporting loin cloths and bear skin rugs to keep warm in the winter.
Splendid, I think we can all have a do over election in the next 18 months; as this slow moving catastrophe, erupts into massive runs of red ink and consequent unemployment. Should be fun watching all the federal transfer payments dry up as BC and Alberta become “have not” provinces.
Cheers
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
Captcha hilarity: INDIGENOUS
I HATE socialism.
BREAKING NEWS
BC Premier Christie Clark is holding a presser at 1:30 PM, half an hour before the greens and NDP plan on releasing details of their agreement. This is about to get interesting. Could be anything here but I’d bet she’s got a floor crosser. Then again she could be resigning but it’d be weird timing?
Alberta needs a police force to patrol the border with BC. They would inspect all trucks and turn back the BC originating shipments. BC has poor environmental laws they dump waste into the ocean, spew wood smoke into the air and have pitiful recycling programs.
I moved to a small town in BC from Alberta in 2005 and have been disgusted by how environmentally irresponsible these hypocrites can be. They talk a good game and hold a great protest but air quality and water quality are severely short of Alberta standards.
It is time that Albertans took action to prevent tainted products passing through their province.
Socialism is just an idea; don’t waste your energy. Hate the mind slaughtered zombies who push the ideas. Stop donating to food banks; a socialist may get your loaf of bread. Stop giving blood; you might save a socialists life. Opt out of organ dontion for the same reason. Think about any dollar you give to anyone; is that charity socialist?
Every union member in BC who is out of a job because of the NDP; did your dues help pay for this? Is it time to decertify, or are you happy the party you (supposedly) own throws you under the bus? Is your shop steward part of the NDP party governance? How IS that “worker’s paradise” working out for you personally?
Dandy, completely agree with you. My thought was to get the DOT out at the border and “temporarily” change GVW to 54,500 kgs and nail the crap out of all BC bound and incoming cargo via semi’s on the #1. Do that for a while and watch them change their tune. You have to make these idiots hurt and hurt bad. This is a gunfight and Alberta brought a paring knife to the fight. This would be their .50 cal.
The caption should read: “the smiling faces of the partisan marriage in the war on prosperity”. Subtitled: The Church of Green joins the socialist (or sometimes fascist) statists to become the green neo-feudal theocracy of BC, or BC Watermelon Alliance for short.
The difference between the Rae/Peterson parliamentary putsch to oust the Miller Progressive Conservatives was there was no deadlock in the House, requiring the Speaker to break the tie on every bill, proposal, motion, statement of any other business from the Legislature.
Also the Byng/King isn’t helpful because the Liberals lost to the Conservatives by 15 seats and tried remain in power, were defeated, asked Byng to dissolve Parliament and call an election. Byng refused and turned to Conservative Meighen, who put together his minority government.
That Conservative minority lasted only eight months; the GreenDip/Speaker iteration will unlikely last even that long. BTW King was returned in majority.
The only question is how will the LGov view this wacky minority government requiring Speaker support for every bit of business.
Expecting some defections from the Liberals is unlikely. Christy had her presser, stated her fall is inevitable, but she is staying, and leaving the matter to the LGov should she be defeated in confidence by the Leg. She also stated she would stay as Opposition Leader.
She didn’t state she will make the Leg dysfunctional, trapping Green & NDP MLAs in Victoria for fear of losing a confidence vote, triggering an election.
Unless the NDP present a coalition, with Andrew Weaver in cabinet, if not all three Greens, how can they convince the LGov he could stabilize parliament?
I think the chances of her refusing the NDP leader’s proposal, dissolving the Legislature and triggering another election, is about 50:50. #GreenDP.
you need no further proof that the Canadian electorate are brain dead. After watching the disaster that is Alberta right next door, they decide they want to give them a shot at killing their economy too.
Christie Clark to stay on and have the legislature meet soon. She says she will resign if defeated in legislature – why did she tip her hand? Keep them guessing. Now they know there won’t be a new election.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadian-politics/christy-clark-not-going-without-a-fight-she-will-seek-confidence-of-the-b-c-legislature
It only makes sense as she won the election. The Bolsheviks might find governing tough. Every vote will be a tie until the speaker breaks it.
“Alberta needs a police force to patrol the border with BC.”
Yeah, that’s just what Canada needs right now: even more provincial obstruction on the free flow of goods across our country.
Funny, O Fake JJM.
En volant mon identité, j’espère que vous êtes aussi tout disposé à vous exprimer en français, mon vieux.
BC needs a Walsingham, badly.
Wait a minute. Why is that revenue lost to all Canadians? Much of what B.C. has been talking about (pipelines and terminals) is vapour-ware. It doesn’t exist yet. So there is no revenue to lose. Meanwhile there has been a significant drop in Alberta’s oil revenue and yet no drop in equalization payments. So far, I see no revenue lost to the rest of Canada, just lost revenue in Alberta and lack of revenue realization in B.C. (which happens a lot).
God, I’m sick of that nonsense. Equalization comes out of the pockets of taxpayers….and in that regard, it comes out of the pockets of Albertans far more than any other province. This nonsensical schtick that because a province doesn’t write a cheque to another province it is somehow fair is laughable BS. What it IS a clear indication of OVERTAXATION by the federal government to dole out money for political favors (i.e., votes) in another part of the country. It is nothing more than a money laundering scheme. So cut the crap.
“God, I’m sick of that nonsense.”
And I’m sick of the nonsense of lousy provinces putting themselves first – regardless of the province.
So you cut the crap too.
That’s a lot of jobs and revenue wiped out in a single day. Imagine what the Commies and Watermelons can destroy when they REALLY get going.
We’re facing deficits much like Alberta, and, a wipeout in private sector investment. The only industry that has kept this province afloat has been the real estate/development sector, and its clear the Commie Coalition wants to destroy that too. Thousands of people employed directly and indirectly, but too bad. They don’t pay union dues, they don’t count.
It looks like my fellow idiot citizens need a good hard lesson in economics, and boy oh boy, they are going to get it alright. Horgan has as much as admitted, that there is no limit to his deficit spending plans. Stuck on stupid, thy name is BC citizen and voter
Then you better talk to B.C., my pungent friend. Now, if you have anything of value to add to the conversation, do so. Otherwise, go play with your toys…make sure you don’t put the crayons up your nose.
Shamrock: Study a bit more of the King-Byng affair. Meighen’s minority government lasted 3 days, not 8 months. King used parliamentary techniques to defeat the government on the acting minister issue before they could even be sworn in properly. The government was defeated by 1 vote in the early morning after hours of wrangling, and one of the PROGRESSIVE members misvoted, that is sat when he should have risen, and was counted the wrong way. The GG had no choice but to call another election in 1926 which King won handily on the issue of who speaks for voters King or the GG. Rules were different then and the saga is very complicated, not sure if it has much reference for this case.
“Cripples the Alberta NDP’s re-election chance while sinking Rachel Notely’s Climate Change Plan” may be the silver lining to all of this. Rachel Notley’s Gong Show may yet get the bum’s rush and thus, with any luck, start the dominos falling regards Liberal and socialist provincial governments.
“…start the dominos falling regards Liberal and socialist provincial governments.”
Oh! Would that you would be right to keep Canada from sinking into a Venezuela like hellhole.
https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/05/31/Kinder-Morgan-Forget-Economic-Windfall/