It was fun playing Trudeau’s words back on the radio as his new minister claimed they never said what they said….
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It was fun playing Trudeau’s words back on the radio as his new minister claimed they never said what they said….
You can listen to the show from 7-10pm ET Monday to Friday at cfra.com
“He” lies as badly as Rachel and Shannon Phillips
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Get rid of Trudeau and the Liebral gov’t, he is destroying our Canada!
Eat it, Trudeau!
With Notley and Trudeaus cabinets the country is short of barristos
I wouldn’t be so sanguine.
I think Trudeau has shelved it temporarily. He’s going to wait until everyone has forgotten why they are mad him before he tries again.
Unless he is turfed and soon, he will try again.
he has all delivery gravitas of a valley girl. he sounds like a complete ditz,
I bet you anything that the Liberals will NOT listen to the majority of Canadians that don’t want any more MUSLIM “REFUGEES”, in Canada.
Don’t blame Justin. The Russians hacked into his brain and made him say all those things he didn’t want to say.
The Russians hacked into his brain
Considering that he sometimes acts like he doesn’t have one, this could never have happened.
Lilly is a dim bulb.
The libranos never intended to reform the electoral process. They won didn’t they? Why would they change a system that puts them in power 70% of the time?
It was a classic librano bait and switch. They convinced a lot of ndp and green voters to vote liberal based on the promise of proportional representation – which bongo didn’t actually promise but the dippers and greenies saw it that way.
So now it’s business as usual. No surprise there but the naïve leftists thought he was telling the truth…..how foolish.
I think that Justin Trudeau knew that this issue was going to haunt him right up until the day we had a referendum over the matter. A ”No we don’t want proportional representation” outcome would have been an outright defeat for the Liberals; they were sure to lose the next election. Now they stands a chance. And I honestly believe that JT catered to the majority of Canadians for that simple reason. He wants to win.
I also believe the biggest setback Trudeau has right now is Rachel Notley. If she gets defeated, the pipeline opponents will be gone, and oil will flow freely just as soon as the prices adjust themselves. JT may be arrogant and childish at times, but he’s far from being stupid.
I don’t know who will defeat him, but I can tell you this. I’m supporting Kevin O’Leary although my favorite person would be Maxime Bernier. I think O’Leary has the power to turn the Conservative Party into a winning party. And you can’t do much when you lose and end up in opposition.
I think you missed part of what Lilly was saying. Trudeau was counting on implementing ranked ballots. When this became a very uncertain outcome, especially with consideration towards a messy and unpredictable referendum, he decided to bail out.
I have no idea how all of this transpired, or how we ended up where this is now, but it’s all very satisfying to see.
I can’t really tell whether the Liberals were serious about this or not, but I do agree that a key motivation for the commitment in the first place was as abtrapper explains. The whole idea portended extremely dangerous consequences for the country, and should never have been suggested in the first place. To do so was grossly irresponsible, for the sake of an election win, to the extent that it even helped. What it shows is the worst tendencies of the Liberal Party in the most glaring way, despite all their lofty rhetoric to the contrary, parroted as it was by the axis of disinformation in downtown Toronto, and how weak that party really is. In this regard, Trudeau, Jr.’s unilateral pronouncement that this was going to happen, along with his dismissive attitude, in cancelling the thing, toward a national referendum are disturbing.
I think that Trudeau, Jr. et. al., would have dearly loved to get to a spot where the alternative to the status quo was a ranked ballot, as WalterF points out, but that would have been so blatantly partisan that it would have caused another national unity crisis, probably fatal to the country, although it would likely have failed in a referendum, if it came to that (no thinking person can be in favour of perpetual one-party rule by the Liberals, even if they are, supposedly, “everybody’s second choice”).
To the extent that they were serious, they probably came to that realization, saw no way around it, were staring into the abyss, got cold feet, and dropped it. I personally think the thing is dead, unless one or both of the other two major parties in Parliament makes a major shift in position, which they won’t likely do any time soon, given their success in this instalment. But who knows?
The NDP won’t and don’t see it as a success and won’t and aren’t satisfied with what happened, but, by their intransigent support for proportional representation, which I do not at all support, have actually done a great service to the country by not caving in to the Liberals. I’ll give them that.
Probably the most lasting contribution to the discussion was by the Conservatives, who have firmly established, together with the previous Charlottetown Accord referendum (which thankfully failed; to be fair, the Liberals also held a national referendum during the Second World War on conscription, but that one was situational on a specific policy measure, not structural; also, I am not ignoring previous provincial referenda, but they were not national), that a national referendum is the only way to gain assent from the governed for such a major change in how we do things. This is a very big deal, and much to their credit, IMO. Not to say that I supported their strategy, when they announced it. I did not: it seemed to me at the time they were legitimizing an illegitimate process driven by one party, and did, and continue to do, a wholly inadequate job, regardless, of defending our current system for electing members of the House of Commons. That was also a dangerous game, which thankfully worked out.
As to whether this will help or hurt Trudeau, Jr. in the future, I think it’s mixed. It’s more grist for the mill at the moment, which is great, and it certainly helps paint a picture about who this guy really is, but there’s still a lot of water to flow under the bridge before 2019. We’ll have to see.
“I have no idea how all of this transpired, or how we ended up where this is now, but it’s all very satisfying to see.”
Amen to that.
(Excellent post, by the way.)