The Vancouver-based restaurant chain came under fire when it announced it would start sourcing its beef from an American ranch accredited by the non-profit group Humane Farm Animal Care. After sales plunged by 30 per cent at some locations, Earls said sorry and put Canadian beef back on the menu.
h/t Steve from Rockwood
Sorry Earls I don’t believe you .my family has dropped you and your other restaurants for good.
Nice. So CBC and owner Mohammad Jessa make the issue out to be Canadian beef vs American and humane butchering instead of the issue being about Halal.
So Mohammad is getting his Earl’s restaurants a Canadian Halal supplier.
I don’t see that as a win.
Ain’t eating at Earl’s no Mo.
Earls is not to be trusted. They simply lie. The latest nonsense from Earls is their 16% experimental “hospitality” charge in Calgary that is automatically added to all bills. Earls claims that it allows the tips to be shared among all staff however, that was always the practice. In talking with the boyfriend of an Earls server, what has really happened is that Earls has raised the hourly rate of staff somewhat (something around $20 per hour) but they get no tips which puts them in a worse position than before. The servers don’t like it. The remainder of the “hospitality” charge goes to Earls bottom line. These guys simply CAN’T be trusted.
They express regret.
That doesn’t solve their SJW stupidity problem though.
What other chains do they own that I can continue to boycott?
Won’t ever be eating at Earl’s again, no matter how much Gormley excuses and or apologises for them. And that’s not even talking about the tipping.
This experiment of raising prices and refusing tips in the name of ‘living wage’ has been tried and failed before. Not only do the servers not like it but there is a lot of resentment from the customer who now has the tip basically incorporated into the bill.
I think the free market will speak on this one.
Indeed….but my point was to show that Earls is simply lying and that much of the “hospitality” charge does not go to the server but rather to the bottom line of the restaurant. If people were aware of that rather than being swindled by their claim that the “tips” are being equally distributed, more people would stay away. I had not been aware of the matter until told by the source.
Earls lies about that just like they did about the beef situation.
The ranch community gave MO a standing ovation? After the way they were treated by Earl I’m surprised.
Gormless is an Earl’s apologist?…no surprise there.
I’m still on board with the boycott.
It was all about Halal and nothing else. I don’t knowingly eat Halal.
Earl’s can keep on feeding their happen’n PC up & comer youth fans all the halal certified cake they want to eat. As a restaurant it’s not a family friendly menu and the atmosphere is rather dark, loud and annoying. Given their recent penchant for self-inflicted drama affecting customer trust I’m not surprised that business is down in a down cycle. Competition’s a bitch and the consumer has the power not to reward stupidity.
Gave up on Earl’s about 5 years ago,when I found that the little restaurant (50 seat) that opened in the neighbourhood had better steaks and service at cheaper prices. They helped basically close down the Earl’s, even before the boondoggle Earl’s made. They will never get any of my family’s service again. Mo can go screw himself.
They can go to hell with their Halal. Never goin to eat there again.
“So Mohammad is getting his Earl’s restaurants a Canadian Halal supplier. I don’t see that as a win.”
“It was all about Halal and nothing else. I don’t knowingly eat Halal.”
Oh, this again. Is it really so hard to get your facts in order?
1. Pretty much all the large-scale commercial beef or poultry suppliers in North America — Cargill, JBS, Tyson, Smithfield, and, yes, even Creekstone Farms — offer a Halal certified program, which typically is distinct from its “Certified Humane” certification program, if it offers one.
2. Before it all went pear-shaped, Earl’s was planning to order its beef from Creekstone’s “Certified Humane” program, but not its Halal certified program. Got that? Certified Humane, not certified Halal.
3. By the way, Creekstone Farms always stuns its cattle prior to exsanguination, even its Halal certified beef.
So, if you were/are boycotting Earl’s because “you don’t knowingly eat Halal”, then that’s true only if your definition of “eating Halal” is “eating non-Halal beef or poultry that was processed by a supplier that also offers Halal certified beef and/or poultry”.
Which is your choice, more power to you, nobody really cares. But since virtually all the major beef/poultry suppliers on the planet offer some kind of Halal product line and thus would technically meet your expansive definition of “eating Halal”, you should probably avoid buying beef, chicken, lamb, etc. from pretty much any grocery store or restaurant that doesn’t source its meat directly from a local, independent farmer.
On the side note, in my view, the more valid reason to not eat at Earl’s is because their food sucks. As a rule, any restaurant that offers bibimbap AND “Cajun” chicken AND Fettuccine Alfredo on its menu will do all three — and likely everything else — badly.
“Creekstone Farms always stuns its cattle prior to exsanguination, even its Halal certified beef.”
If it does then its halal certified beef is not halal at all. The animal must be fully conscious (spinal cord intact so it can experience pain, as opposed to kosher) as an iman offers prayers to that non-existent bloodthirsty deity, allah, while it slowly bleeds to death. That would be halal.
Not. Good. Enough. … let them reap what they have sown. Bury them. This is the price you pay … in a FREE market.
“Which is your choice, more power to you, nobody really cares.”
Plenty of people care. Just not you and your ilk.
I don’t care if a meat supplier does secretly offer a halal line of product, as long as they in no way have any public symbol on their product that shows they are accommodating the Death Cult.
If they do make a show of accommodation, then they are dhimmi and I will not buy their product because then I would be an Islam supporter too like they are.
Islam must be resisted and our Canadian way of life must be conserved.
“If it does then its halal certified beef is not halal at all. The animal must be fully conscious (spinal cord intact so it can experience pain, as opposed to kosher) as an iman offers prayers to that non-existent bloodthirsty deity, allah, while it slowly bleeds to death. That would be halal.”
Actually, the reality is more nuanced than that. It’s true that some Islamic authorities and halal certifiers insist that only non-stunned animals are acceptable, but it’s also true that other Islamic authorities and halal certifiers accept non-penetrative, reversible stunning methods as acceptable. Especially in North America, Australia, the UK, etc., where stunning prior to slaughter is standard industry practice, you will find halal certifiers (e.g., Halal Transactions of Omaha, which certifies Creekstone Farms; Halal Food Authority, etc.) who endorse the latter (e.g., see http://www.halaltransactions.org/#!blank/pl7y5; http://halalfoodauthority.com/faqs ).
“I don’t care if a meat supplier does secretly offer a halal line of product, as long as they in no way have any public symbol on their product that shows they are accommodating the Death Cult. If they do make a show of accommodation, then they are dhimmi and I will not buy their product because then I would be an Islam supporter too like they are.”
So, your only concern is the halal certified label? In other words, you’ll happily support what you consider to be “dhimmi” meat suppliers as long as you personally are not seen in public supporting “dhimmi” meat suppliers?
“as long as you personally are not seen in public supporting “dhimmi” meat suppliers?”
No. As long as THEY, the suppliers, are not seen by the public as supporting a tenet of Islam(submission) and moving our food supply to an Islamic footing.
Accommodation is understood by Muslims as submission to Islam.
I don’t want them or Islam accommodated in any way.
What part about resistance did you not grasp?
And that BS you wrote about nobody caring?
Obviously a 30% drop in sales is considered significant by Mohammad Jessa.
Significant enough to get the CBC to issue his weasly propaganda about it being a Canadaian vs American issue, which is isn’t.
It’s not enough to apologize. Earls needs to actively promote Alberta beef on its menu. I would suggest a 3-4 paragraph write-up at the back of their menus stating how Alberta farmers deliver high quality meet in a humane way with a photo of a smiling farm family. Come on Earls. You can hit a home run here.
Yawwwwwwnnnnn … welcome to the 21st century, Ahmed !
Well said @ 3:22. We haven’t been to Earl’s for years and do not plan on ever going there.
Someone mentioned other restaurants owned by this firm. Does anyone have a listing of such?
We also now look at labels and if the label mentions Halal in any way the item is left on the shelf. No accommodation to the death cult takeover by stealth here. We do not want our granddaughters wearing black body bags in the future.
stan asked…”What other chains do they own that I can continue to boycott?”
On Earl the Ahmed own’s website, I found A&W, Joey’s and Cactus Club Cafe. There’s probably more.
Glad all the SDA’s are continuing the boycott. Would be nice to give Sheila Gunn Reid a shout out cuz she and Ezra did more than anyone to bring attention to this.
I’ve despised Earl’s with visceral, seething anger ever since a slobbering manager harassed me to apply there to work after I took my crew there for a treat. I give everyone on the patio the finger every time I drive by an Earl’s. My boycotts are epic.
So..,
A. Earl’s planned to source (non-halal) beef from Creekstone Farms.
B. Creekstone Farms also supplies halal certified products to other customers.
Ergo C. No accommodations for Muslims! No creeping Islamification of our food supply! Let’s boycott Earl’s!
Well, if the above is true, then…
A. McDonald’s sources its (non-halal) beef from Cargill.
B. Cargill also supplies halal certified products to other customers.
Ergo C. No accommodations for Muslims! No creeping Islamification of our food supply! Let’s boycott McDonald’s?
Absolutely boycott McDonalds if your information is accurate.
I boycott them because their food tastes like shit and is overpriced. But if they are associated with cruel animal practices then everyone should.
“Someone mentioned other restaurants owned by this firm. Does anyone have a listing of such?”
Earls is a Fuller Family enterprise among many restaurant enterprises.
Earls is a Fuller family restaurant chain which Leroy Fuller originated.
The Fuller family operates 30 A&Ws in Canada, they have a share in the Cactus Club Café, Joey Restaurants chain is a Fuller family business, they may or may not own a host of unaffiliated restaurants across the U.S. and Canada, but I think that from my internet search it is amazingly coincidental that many many restaurants are actually named FULLERS considering how much the multi-millionaire Fuller family focused solely on the restaurant business has the same name and dates back many years.
The Fuller family patriarch’s name is Leroy Fuller. Leroy Fuller is a Korean War vetran who worked his way up in the food business from the bottom and learned the business the old fashioned way, direct experience. Leroy is, from my net search, 80 years old.
“Accommodation is understood by Muslims as submission to Islam. What part about resistance did you not grasp?”
An earlier reply got sucked up by the filter. To repeat, you might want to reassess your definition of “accommodation”, and “resistance”.
Fact is, suppliers are already happily making available halal certified products for willing domestic and international consumers. And none of it is being done “secretly” — Cargill operates a 100% halal beef processing plant in Guelph, ON. JBS USA lists halal products among its global import lines. Tyson has a sales office in Dubai. Even the Canadian beef industry association boasts on its site about its efforts to increase sales of Canadian beef to affluent markets in the Middle East.
Pretty much all the meat and poultry that you see in your local grocery stores was processed by suppliers that also produce halal. You might refuse to buy the 6-pack of chicken thighs with the halal certified logo on it, opting instead for the logo-free option, but chances are your chicken-buying money is still going to be same companies that had a hand in both.
So, Oz, how exactly are you still “resisting”?
So … let me get this right, Lib. You’re saying that … “Resistance is Futile” … what are you ? A cyber-Borg ? Or just a geeky Star Trekkie ?
Bye-the-bye, in case some folks don’t understand the meaning of English names, most of the ones that take up large parts of the phone book, such as Smith or Miller, …these names came from the family business. Smiths were metal craftsmen and Millers operated various kinds of mills. These crafts/trades were very successful and lucrative such that Smiths and Millers have the 1st and 2nd largest name groupings in the phone book because they could afford a lot of children and those children were well provided for, made good marital matches, and survived in accordingly large numbers.
So, if someone’s family name was Sawyer their ancestor family trade was to saw, if their family name was Brewster the family craft was owning a brewery, etc.
Being a Fuller was stone hard labour. It meant to clean animal hair(horse, cow, animal hair) with lye and to make felt out of it. By hand.
My point is that there aren’t many Fullers today.
No Kenji, I’m questioning whether Oz even really understands what he thinks he’s “resisting”.
“but chances are your chicken-buying money is still going to be same companies that had a hand in both.
That chance is good. Really good. And as long as there is no halal symbol on the meat it’s great, because although you are too thick to understand it, the CBC article on which this thread is based is victory of sorts.
Earl’s is hurting in the money pockets. That’s good enough for me.
A shot across the bow and the battle is on. It doesn’t matter if they secretly get some of my money as long as the halal sucking dhimmis don’t overtly declare they have submitted to Islam.
When the day comes that they haven’t smelled the change in the wind I will be buying all of my meat from the Hutterites or Mennonites.
I know for a fact that they won’t be going halal.
“Absolutely boycott McDonalds if your information is accurate. I boycott them because their food tastes like shit and is overpriced. But if they are associated with cruel animal practices then everyone should.”
No argument from me about McD’s food quality.
But my point is that the handful of multinational suppliers that dominate the wholesale and retail beef and poultry industries in N America, and really the world — your Cargill’s, your JBS’s, your WH Group’s, etc. — all have business lines dedicated to halal. That’s just the nature of the modern food industry.
So if you truly think it’s reasonable to boycott Earl’s, or McD’s, or anyone else, simply because one of their suppliers also produces halal products (as opposed to a valid reason to avoid them, like their food sucks), then be prepared to boycott basically all fast food chains, and most mid-range restaurants, and a good number of upscale restaurants too, and your local grocery stores, and Costco, and Walmart…
Are you really ready to do that?
Or you could switch your diet to mainly pork – chops, hams, bacon. They won’t be halal.
“When the day comes that they haven’t smelled the change in the wind I will be buying all of my meat from the Hutterites or Mennonites. I know for a fact that they won’t be going halal.”
Maybe you should also reassess your definition of “fact”:
– traditionalhutterite.ca/Beef.html
– halalfoodie.ca/retail/blossom-pure-organic-halal-meat-and-grocery/
– winnipegfreepress.com/local/everything-is-halal-at-muslim-grocery-store-100513459.html
When this issue first arose, I went to the Creekstone Farms Web site. As near as I could tell from it, all their beef is “certified halal”, and all their kill floor personnel are muzz.
I won’t willingly eat halal anything, since the food has been dedicated to the service of Satan, allah being the same guy in a different suit.
I wouldn’t have a problem with eating non-halal food from a supplier who also has a halal line, but if the day comes that every critter is killed halal-style, and only the stickers on the package differentiate the “halal” from “non-halal”, then I guess my solution would be to buy only locally-killed beef, or buy only kosher.
My diet is already mainly pork and booze, neither of which is halal.
That said, and I’ve said this before today, I live in Airdrie and the surrounding area is mostly wheat fields and cattle range.
I have lots of meat purchase options outside of the main grocery stores.
Heck, just north of Balzac their is a private butchery, little larger than my home, where you walk in the door and there they are butchering meat on several tables right in front of the customers.
Beef, pork, chicken, lamb, it’s all there.(well, no goat or kid, which I’ve actually tried to buy)
None of it is halal.
This Toking Liberal must live in a hot house world of his own mind.
I’ll go back to earls when Mo is fired. No after the fact PR bulls*it is going to change that. Mo tried a bit of subversive sharia and then lied about it and got caught. Then the real bs began. Token liberal knows he’s spinning garbage.
“…I will be buying all of my meat from the Hutterites or Mennonites.
I know for a fact that they won’t be going halal.”
Exactly! That is where most of our meat supplies come from. There are also many other local butcher shops across the country that do not practice cruelty to animals as the Halal submissive operations do.
“Exactly! That is where most of our meat supplies come from. There are also many other local butcher shops across the country that do not practice cruelty to animals as the Halal submissive operations do.”
Unless it’s a farmgate operation, it’s not like local butcher shops are stunning and bleeding out their own cows in the back room. They still get the carcasses from somewhere and someone. Though I agree that local butcher shops that source humanely raised (free-range, grass-fed, organic if possible, etc.) animals from local farms is the way to go.
Oh, and there’s a reason why many Halal butcher shops also source their meat and poultry from Amish, Hutterite, and Mennonite farms:
– myhalalmeat.com/index.php/meat-products.html?cat=5
– traditionalhutterite.ca/Beef.html
– halalfoodie.ca/retail/blossom-pure-organic-halal-meat-and-grocery/
– winnipegfreepress.com/local/everything-is-halal-at-muslim-grocery-store-100513459.html
Can you guess why?