A Settled Science Primer: Question Begging 101

Macleans magazine’s Aaron Wherry:

Remember kids, if you want to complain about Alberta’s carbon tax, all you have to do is explain how instead you’d reduce emissions.

Which is kinda like, “If you want to complain about having to sacrifice your son to the Volcano God, all you have to do is explain how you’d appease the Volcano God.”
Remember, the ball is always in your court.

34 Replies to “A Settled Science Primer: Question Begging 101”

  1. It’s never enough for people like Wherry.
    Somehow the collective is going to be sustained and it will be sustained at whatever cost is required, even your very life.

  2. Why are we worried about reducing anything?
    Canada’s CO2 emissions are 2% of the world’s total.
    Canada’s forests absorb 4% of the world’s CO2 emissions.
    Seems to me we could double our emissions and still not be a net contributor to increasing global CO2 levels…
    Anyone who wishes to correct any of the above is welcome – show your work!

  3. If you like your carbon tax you can keep your carbon tax ,in fact we can double or triple it
    I’m waiting for big mouth Nenshi to ask for some too

  4. Remember kids, if you want to complain about Holocaust, all you have to do is explain how instead you’d going to get rid of the Jooos.

  5. Remember kids, if you want to complain about slavery, all you have to do is explain how instead you’d force people to pick up cotton for no pay.

  6. Remember kids, if you want to complain forced abortions in China, all you have to do is explain how instead you’d prevent them from giving birth.

  7. So, let’s figure this out. A tax on all carbon is imposed (including gasoline and heating fuel). That gets paid by the poor and the rich. But the government decides that the poor shouldn’t shoulder the cost, so it puts a refundable tax credit in place to give the poor the money to pay the tax (and then some). And the rich pay for the “carbon tax” on their own use of carbon and that of the poor.
    But elementary economics tells us that the poor are not likely to cut back on carbon consumption, because they have just been given the means to pay for it by this circular exercise. And the rich don’t really feel much of a pinch and opt to continue carbon use because their “marginal propensity to consume” hasn’t really been hit all that hard.
    So aside from a few sad sacks who are not poor enough to get the refundable tax credits and not quite rich enough to not care about the cost of it all, there is no real impact on consumption. And, if one assumes that the government has a genuinely ‘revenue neutral’ program, the whole thing looks like an excuse to engage in income redistribution, not an effort to reduce carbon consumption.
    TA DA!!! and you thought they were serious about all this bumppppppphhh…

  8. “TA DA!!! and you thought they were serious about all this bumppppppphhh…”
    Not at all. The goal is to kill most of the world population through privation. Money means nothing to them.

  9. I think what the sniveling rat faced authoritarian prick Wherry is trying to say is… Remember kids, if you don’t like far leftist NDP and Liberal tax schemes designed to steal more of your money in order to solve an imaginary problem, then F##K YOU!

  10. “TA DA!!! and you thought they were serious about all this bumppppppphhh…””
    Never thought that, rank and file of watermelon movement maybe, but not the policy makers. They want controlled, helpless masses afraid that decent will sent them straight to a gulag, so called environmental policy is just means to an end.

  11. (sarcasm on)
    I think those that are active in sports and do things that make one physically active and perspire should pay more “carbon tax” than a couch potato. Those running and exercise produce more “carbon.” I bet the “carbon police” will be there to ticket them.
    (sarcasm off)
    Jonny . I agree with you completely, we have a great forest and in summer, farm land will absorb more “carbon” than we produce. I bet that there will be very few countries returning from Paris which will even come close to the standards put on the oil industry in Alberta by Just-in and other Premiers of Canada.
    The best part is that Maritimes, Quebec and Ontario will NOT get expected transfer payments from Alberta … it will be up to Saskatchewan and BC.
    One problem; though Alberta will have the most ecologically oil production in the world, Eastern Canada will still reject it because foreign oil will be cheaper. Other countries will not implement the same standards.

  12. ” We are striving for a climate-resilient economy ”
    Our Prime Minister said that tonight.
    If I was in a coma for 9 months and woke up in an Alberta ruled by the NDP AND Justin Trudeau was our PM … I would accept the fact that I was dead and hell isn’t all that bad.
    When I realized that I was still alive … Mexico is looking good.

  13. wallyj, Canada elected a moron for PM and the people of Alberta decided to commit suicide. I have watched this foolishness unfold, and no matter how often the lies are exposed, and no matter what is the truth, the idiots just seems to be able to keep pushing the fake climate change BS. When Canadians can no longer keep warm in winter and food supplies are reduced, I hope we have the balls to march right to parliament and rip these jerks out of their seats and tar and feather every freaking one of the.

  14. Notley takes money from Albertans, promises to give some of it back. Albertans congratulate each other. Trudeau cheers. Go recession!

  15. Since the volcano god doesn’t exist that means my son is saved, ergo….since there is no C02 problem why should there be a tax on it. I’m sorry, I know that simple logic like this makes the fuzzy headed, left wing dunderheads brains hurt and then they get cranky and take it out on normal humans.

  16. Cascadia,
    You are being logical; but this isn’t logic. This is about the comfortable alieviating some vague sense of guilt. It is religion.

  17. Heretic!
    Like I say, the enviro-fascists are opposed to electricity, except that which can be generated by rubbing two serfs together.

  18. Macleans sounds a lot like TIME magazine nothing but some leftists propeganda rag a total waste to print and waste the Freedom of the Press on

  19. Is the overwhelming majority of Earth’s scientific community was warning about the dire, world-changing threat posed by the Volcano God?

  20. Since carbon dioxide emissions are not the problem (see: http://sciencespeak.com/climate-basic.html), I would have to say the best way to reduce all the other emissions from the Agenda 21-ists is to make ’em live in a less technologically advanced country, with inconsistent power output where they can emit there.

  21. No, nor are they concerned about imaginary Global Warming. If you want to throw out the 97% consensus, search out the actual methodology.
    10,000 papers looked at, many in the field of psychology, of those 10,000, they decided that 77 papers were relevant; so 97% of 77/10,000 is where the number comes from. Of those 75 papers, many of the authors do not support the conclusion drawn by the 97% paper.
    Math is really not all that hard.
    97% of 77/10,000= 0.007469 So, 7 out of 1000 scientists agree with anthropogenic global warming as a major threat.

  22. Remember kids, if you want to complain about Alberta’s mass stupidity, all you have to do is buy some of my patented ‘Smart Pills’.
    Send me $19.99 plus GST plus carbon tax to. . .
    #stopthestupid

  23. If reducing C02 output really is the goal,Canadians could stop heating their houses higher than 50 degrees and certainly stop shipping food and produce to our cities. Let all food be produced by those who consume it, next door.
    Somehow I doubt if that is what Wherry wants to hear, but the vast majority of carbon output for Can originates in the transportation, agr/food, heating sectors.Shutting down the oil sands tomorrow would have minimal effect on CO2 output, and no effect whatsoever on the climate. I suspect Canada is about to face ruinous C02 targets in Paris because we are a northern country with high energy requirements.

  24. Given the massive benefits to Canada if we could warm it up 2 or 3 degrees C, surely politicians campaigning to keep us cool or even make us cooler amounts to treason.
    In my eyes buying into this outbreak of mass hysteria, disqualifies any of these do-gooders from holding office.
    Are they Canadians?
    Or more of these metrosexual “World Citizens”?
    It must have escaped their attention that it is cold in Canada and that around half the countries in the world are screwed up shitholes.
    Canada first.
    Warmer is better.
    If climate change is so bad, I want the climate restored to that when forests grew at 78 degrees north.
    Climate Change.. this is the babbling of fools, yet these nowits hold power over me?
    Thanks Eastern Canada.
    We really do have nothing in common.
    How about they keep the name and we keep the country?
    Contrary to progressive baby talk, elected actors have all the legitimacy we give them.
    Notley will be a fine test of mob rule.
    Democracy Rules Right?
    The accidentally elected NDP have no legitimacy.
    Even they know it, hence the rape and pillage to steal everything they can in 4 years.
    Rioting is looking like a great group participation activity..isn’t this what the socialists are all about?

  25. John Robertson:
    “The accidentally elected NDP have no legitimacy.”
    I agree it was a disastrous mistake to let the NDP anywhere near the reins of power, but it was not accidental, I watched the polls in dismay for about 2 weeks prior to the election and an NDP government was predicted by just about everybody.
    So just as Ont is stuck with Wynne Alberta has NDP in charge; that you get the government you voted for is a sad fact of life today.

  26. Remember kids, if you want to remove multiple gigawatts of 99%+ reliable baseload power generation capacity, you have to show how the replacement baseload generation capacity will be just as reliable. So that our citizens don’t freeze to death during a -30° Celsius winter night, doncha know.
    Oh, and please show your work. Handwaving’s not allowed in this course, and there are no “do-overs.”

  27. I recall PM chretien heading over to Kyoto. He hadn’t really given the protocol a seconds thought (like a lot of things) and came up with Canada’s ‘position’ while on the plane. He had no intention of ever following through with his commitments and simply didn’t. Perhaps PM bongo maybe the same but somehow I think bongo has drank the Kool-Aid and believes an undetectable gas essential to life itself is problem and on behalf of all Canadians from coast to coast to coast….. he is going to fix it.

  28. Sorry Martin, my point was that democracy is mob rule.
    All the conventions and electoral rules are only honoured when it suits the mob.
    If Albertans start to lose it, the majority rules.
    And given the corruption of all our politicians , a tax theft in excess of 50% of income (very soon) and no end of this theft, treachery and destruction by our kleptocrats.
    Notley acts as a person well aware that near 60% of Albertans have no trust in her party.
    Sure the media and politicians get their kicks telling us we are powerless, under their rules.
    The kleptocracy is naked.
    Tolerance for fools and bandits FEASTING AT THE PRODUCERS EXPENSE, while peeing in the wine and crapping in their beds..t’is running mighty short.

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