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“When I was first “warned” about what to expect in Sheshatshui, a lot of it seemed really over-the-top to me, even racist at times. I heard so much trash talk about this town and its inhabitants, and so passionately told, that I wondered if people were hanging onto some kind of “grudge” that I didn’t know about. So many stories preceded my visit there and they all seemed extremely exaggerated. Nevertheless, I took my camera and set out to take some photos.” |
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dmorris,would that be Manigotogan? I know the area well.BTW,some of those ‘rez’ fellas got great paying jobs at gold mine in Bissett close by…guess how that worked out?
> I disagree with the blogger’s tough love,
> cut-them-off remedy
It’s the ONLY one that works. I wouldn’t have, couldn’t have sobered up and cleaned up with well meaning people continuing to enable me along the way. The kindest thing you can do for these people is to help them to hit bottom as quickly as possible, and that includes cutting purse strings. Anything else just prolongs their suffering and ours.
I don’t know what it’s called now,Sammy,the Fort Alexander Reserve was right beside Pine Falls,which had a pulp mill.
I used to see elderly Indians pulling a little hand sleigh filled with poplar poles to the mill,where apparently they ‘d pay them cash for the wood.
Gold mine? Never heard of that. If the Indians at the mine were like the Indians at so many other places I knew, it probably didn’t work out too well. Quite a few,not ALL, of the Indians would disappear after they got paid, only to return after a few days,expecting their job to still be open for them,and if it wasn’t they be pissed off.
DMorris knows what he is talking about ….. The Manigotagan river area reserve is the Hollow Water FN which is in some ways better off than Ft. Alexander. More isolated and possibly more backwards but at least somewhat off the beaten path.
As for anyone from Ft. Alexander working the Bisset mine … I have never come across one. The locals at Ft.Alexander are closer to the pulp mill at Pine Falls and some may have worked there before it shut down (5years now?). Some may have worked on bush cutting and pulp lumber crews. Some hold commercial fishing licences and work at trapping and wild rice cultivation/harvest. But there is a prevalent idea among reserve residents that money and property ONLY come from the government.
Case in fact … a guy I came to meet through mutual friends. He spent his adult life off Ft. Alexander in the Selkirk / St. Andrews area. He worked at the steel mill, sometimes also at northern mines. He fished in the south basin of Lake Winnipeg, worked some wild rice meadows to the east of Manigotagan. He was a skilled machinist and mechanic who for a while built customized aluminum fishing yawls (a local specialized craft used for commercial fishing … not a sail boat). He operated a construction business and built roads, commercial buildings and developments.
After a life of hard work and prosperity he decided to sell his property on the Red River (East Selkirk) and go back to Ft. Alexander for retirement.
And there … is where things get forked up. At the outset he was stonewalled, denied his birthrights and threatened by the band council and chief. They tried to block his claims and pulled every dirty trick they could think of to keep him out.
After the battle for his right to live on the reserve was won … he then had to battle for a place to put his house. Of course … he was not even asking for a band council house … but he had to fight every step of the way to get his retirement home built and serviced. He had numerous incidents of vandalism on his home while it was being built including an arson. He had his vehicles vandalized and tools stolen. All the usual low life intimidation from a band of thugs.
Eventually he completed his log home with all the neccessities like well, septic and …. no electricity. The band council refused to approve the right of way for a power line and forced him to live for months without electricity.
Eventually … he was settled in and for the most part living peacefully with the rest of the community. Except for the ingrained resentment of locals who could not accept that everything he had done … was done on his own.
They could not understand that the house was built and paid for by him … believing that he had some crooked deal with the government or some secret influence over the band council.
They could not understand how he could afford new vehicles, fishing boats, snow sleds and equipment. They believed that he must have some special connections with the government to get all this.
Of course he would tell anyone who cared to listen how he got his money. But most had no concept at all of how he could do it without being given things. They simply could not believe that things were not handed to people or gotten by corruption.
LC Bennett – Agenda 21 is not fiction – ET – most Canadians think that they own property (and since Turdo ‘fixed’ the BNA Act you are correct about the present state of renting property but being tricked into paying taxes on rented property). Our excellent Prime Minister supports private property rights; we should start squawking about that day in and day out until it is brought up to be legislated on…we will maybe not get another opportunity.
Thank-you Phantom and Knight99 for all your excellent non milque toast comments.
LC Bennent -of course I agree with you about accountability but to believe that the chiefs and their pals are anything but ‘useful idiots’ of the human haters is indeed naive, IMO. Chief Spender thinks she ‘has it made’ because she has been told that by people who are using her. She has probably thought no further down the road than her next pair of couch pajamas. She is not in the loop. The ‘set-up’ is to make all the Indian Chiefs (and all the people that they speak for)look like fools and pit the rest of Canada against them. Divide and conquer. Lincoln, Napoleon, King George III, Obahama, Turdo, Cretian, Caesar, Henery VII, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin….knw that tactic; keeping people constantly in- fighting leaves a clear path for Total Control. This tactic makes some of people slathering, supportive slaves though favors granted and that group will fight the ‘rebels’ for the elitists. The latter being the real enemy of all free people The Scottish noblemen stabbed William Wallace in the back for favors from the English Crown, Lincon suspended the Constitution in exchange for promises of wealth from a conquered South, Liberanos and adscam in Quebec….
Agenda 21 (UN plan – all up and ready to read at the UN website!) wants to move all people into big apt blocks (divided into small cells) in large cities. The people on Reservations will not be allowed to remain there by the Agenda 21 ilk. ‘Useful idiots’ for a short time – pitting us against anyone but the top echallens of the money/control grab plays right into the handbook used by Lenin, Castro, Hitler….IMO.
Raising a big stink about missing money on Reservations is a good place to start but not picking on helpless, poor, people who are at the mercy of chiefs and their handlers is essential, IMO.
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So much for that idea. 🙂
Jema 54 >
Not a problem Jema same for you. If people don’t start standing up and fighting back without the PC rhetoric that put us in this mess we are doomed as a free nation somewhere in the future.
The world is full of unscrupulous takers at every level of every demographic. Yet they grow exponentially both domestically and around the world as we decline. The Liberal Progressive left has manufactured and nurtured it as a weapon against capitalism.
If we don’t guard it they WILL take it. That is a certainty.
There are some fellows from Pine Falls/Powerview/Manigotogan/Hollow Water work at San Gold mine in Bissett OMMAG.Not so many as were there few yrs back tho.
not picking on helpless, poor, people who are at the mercy of chiefs and their handlers is essential,
I don’t see anyone picking on the helpless. The criticism is clearly focused on the corrupt chiefs with expensive SUVs and very expensive boyfriends whose lavish living neglects some of the less fortunate [poorly related to the chief] that exist on every reserve.
May the Raven be with you.
I can’t get the photos. Any ideas how to see them?
If you are up around Peterborough (Ontario) way, the same would apply to Curve Lake Reserve.
There was one fellow who decided it was too much work to water his horse, so he cut a hole in the side of his house where the bathroom was so the horse could drink out of the bathtub.
I imagine it was a good idea in the summer. In the winter….not so much.