north @ 2:45 and nold @ 8:10, well said.
I do not need either drunks or stoned on my machines.
Watched the video. Sheesh! And all this time I thought the Cheech and Chong skit was just humour. Who knew?
@cgh The end of prohibition in the 1930s did not produce more alcoholics.
Did Roe v. Wade lead to more abortions?
(Not trying to argue. Trying to understand your position.)
@ David S. if you are truly want less government, the first thing you must do is starve it.
Very true.
A tax on MJ. Hmmm. Who are the libertarians who believe in levying a new tax?
@Loki The WOsD has resulted in a steady increase in totalitarianism …
Methinks GWoT is a bigger culprit.
…….
Are we forgetting another approach? As Nancy Reagan said: ‘Just say no’, non, nein, nyet …’
Rizwan:
Did Roe v. Wade lead to more abortions?
Statistically yes, in reality no. Abortions rose statistically in the United States because of the shutdown of backstreet abortionists which were never captured in the official numbers. More specifically, when Canada’s abortion law was overthrown by a court decision the rate did not rise.
In the 1930s, when prohibition ended, the rate of alcoholism did not significantly increase.
I have fired several employees that were intoxicated at work. All except one were drunk or badly hung-over. I wouldn’t have even known about the guy smoking MJ at work if it weren’t for one of my apprentices accidentally ratting him out which allowed me to catch him at it. Still, he was wasted and the rules are clear. I can say with some confidence that probably all of my current staff use either alcohol or MJ but they manage to keep it restricted to their own time and do not arrive at work smelling like a brewery or a grow-op. I have noticed that the problem is greater among guys over 30, with the under 30 group having better self-control. Trouble is virtually every under 30 I hire needs extensive training for stuff he supposedly was taught in school, but I digress…
Sasquatch, “Yeah I noticed that…the same element that seeks “gunlaws” and “gun-bans”, actively support legalizing not just MJ but most recreational drugs.”
The left doesn’t care whether they are consistent about anything. It’s called relativism and it’s endemic, which is why their systems always fall apart so spectacularly. Trudeau is currently reaping the results of his relativism and yet he still will not learn from his mistake. Fortunately for you he wasn’t sent over to load mortars.
“I saw one of the cool guys, smoking a joint feeding a 81mm mortar…as he dropped the round down the barrel….the wrong way.”
They allow MJ use in the service? Really? God help us.
My usual words. If we could tolerate allowing druggies and their kids to die in the streets and had street sweepers that would scrub them up and take them to the landfill – great – toke away. People who destroy their own and their family’s lives come looking to me to buy their drugs and feed and clothe them. I do have an interest in their useless lives.
Love the photo. Seattle obviously doesn’t allow tall buildings anywhere near the Space Needle. I think the Husky Tower (old name – I know) in Calgary is taller but is dwarfed by the buildings around it.
Pot kills, trust me. An addiction to pot is as bad as booze.
Lies. A tax on MJ. Hmmm. Who are the libertarians who believe in levying a new tax?
I’ll take it over throwing people in jail and giving cops an infinite revenue stream.
This thread has been pretty encouraging to read.
If we could tolerate allowing druggies and their kids to die in the streets and had street sweepers that would scrub them up and take them to the landfill – great – toke away.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Just like those who drink a beer will surely be found shortly living under a bridge swilling rubbing alcohol.
If you can’t differentiate between recreational pot smokers and needle tracked heroin addicts, you should seek help. Oh, and put down that copy of ‘Reefer Madness’ you’ve been clutching.
Oh, I almost forgot.
Loki, I had tried quitting smoking so many times I was known as the worlds greatest quitter. Then I found e-cigs and kicked the cigs immediately and completely. Coming up on one year without a single cigarette. My GP is amazed at how well it worked and is watching me like a lab rat these days. He wasn’t very keen when I told him I was going to try e-cigs but has come around since.
doowleb “If you can’t differentiate between recreational pot smokers and needle tracked heroin addicts, you should seek help. Oh, and put down that copy of ‘Reefer Madness’ you’ve been clutching.”
No – no difference. The belief that every mind altering substance except weeds destroys lives indicates perhaps a excess of indulgence. And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits. Have another toke.
And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits.
The ‘idiots’ that understand risk and reward and incentive.
Again, you have to be an idiot not to understand the difference between recreational use and serious addiction.
If you want to end the war on drugs and save millions of lives, then quite using!
Druggies always lay the blame on those that don’t want their kids around drugs, Islamic terrorists, or paedophiles.
We can always count on the potheads like LAS to defend all of the above.
You give us our full inalienable rights to concealed carry, stand our ground, and castle laws to defend ourselves from the Liberal doper society and you can stick rat poison in your veins all day every day.
Oh and bring back the death penalty as they have in Singapore, where trafficking and selling drugs to minors is punishable by death. Then I’m game for legalizing pot.
The belief that every mind altering substance except weeds destroys lives indicates perhaps a excess of indulgence. And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits. Have another toke.
Wow, I’ll need something mind altering to make any sense of that crypto babble.
Anyways…My circle of friends include many successful businessmen like myself, lawyers and professionals. Been married to the same woman for almost 40 years. However, since this thread is placing me in the untenable position of somewhat agreeing with LAS, I will not be commenting further on the subject.
Doowleb >
“…this thread is placing me in the untenable position of somewhat agreeing with LAS,”
Agreeing with LAS? Give your head a shake, what has LAS ever been right about? The same weirdo who writes nothing on SDA but defend Open Borders, pedophiles, Islamic terrorism and of course legalizing drugs.
People need to ask themselves “what doesn’t LAS defend ?”, and you will clearly see that he doesn’t defend anything that supports healthy western values or a functional society.
The “organized crime” comment that someone made is bang on. You will never take the criminal off the streets by legalizing drugs, at best you take the easy money away from the street dealer and put them in your home looking for some easy money instead.
The Penny Anti potheads like LAS are only interested in self indulgence and doing it for cheaper, thinking they’ll save by growing their own and selling it on the side risk free. These same nitwits also fantasize about having real jobs one day without getting fired for having drugs in their system. Jobs like running sophisticated equipment, emergency services, or other positions that pay well to responsible people who take others physical welfare in hand. Dopers can’t look after themselves properly much less other people, that’s why they can’t have those jobs or positions in real companies.
The Penny Anti potheads like LAS are only interested in self indulgence
The projection is strong with this one. You give us our full inalienable rights to concealed carry, stand our ground, and castle laws to defend ourselves from the Liberal doper society and you can stick rat poison in your veins all day every day.
I’ll smoke or stick whatever I want in my veins regardless. Don’t like it? TFB.
phil “as if there were some connection between criminal activity and the ingestion of mind/mood altering substances.”
So the A-hole who robbed us and told us that he needed the money to buy drugs was lying. He was probably a bit short for the collection plate at church. A-hole.
“I’ll smoke or stick whatever I want in my veins regardless.”
I draw the line at minors.
If you work in a semidangerous job then you should refuse to work with anyone high or loaded. Employers are constantly on the lookout for that.
So wtf?
What you are describing, my dimwitted scar, is the very real connection between criminal activity and the black market value the war on some drugs places on prohibited substances.
@ Knight 99: You sound like a socialist.
phil “What you are describing, my dimwitted scar, is the very real connection between criminal activity and the black market value the war on some drugs places on prohibited substances.”
And people wouldn’t commit crimes to buy highly taxed drugs, just the illegal ones. Half the cigarettes in Ontario and Quebec are provided thanks to organized crime. Find another argument.
I’ve outlived and buried many substance abusers and paid taxes to raise their kids. Reminds me, I’ve got to buy a headstone for one. He lived to 50 with the last 10 years a waste of skin. Marginal employment after screwing up a highly paid oilpatch career with a couple stretches in jail for pounding on women. Quite the guy.
In Scar’s mind, the black market created by excessive taxation of cigarettes somehow negates the creation of the black market by prohibition. Fascinating.
Scar >
I’ve outlived and buried many substance abusers and paid taxes to raise their kids…… Marginal employment after screwing up a highly paid oil patch career.
Yup have seen it myself many times over, had a couple of welfare uncles who eventually poisoned themselves to death, leaving behind some big sorry ass’d dysfunctional families. Also know a bunch of guys who lost great paying +100K oilfield jobs to smoking some weed.
Langmann >
“You sound like a socialist.”
Yea, how so? I could give a rat’s ass what kind of poison that any of you donuts want to ingest; I actually find it hilarious especially when you all flock out to tell the rest of us how together you have it. I’m simply not interested in paying for, or living in the societal fallout.
Only a retard thinks mind altering drugs are good for a society, if you want to f*ck yourself up on them have at it. The problem is that it’s me and other sober people that pay for your dysfunctional children, your health costs, the road and work related accidents and any other self indulgent BS you expect society to pick up for your lack of intellect.
That’s not socialist, it’s quite the opposite. If we privatize everything, and allow the good people to defend themselves from the money seeking drug abusers, to my mind you should be free to f*ck yourself up all day every day without interference from society. Just get in our face and we legally take yours off, nothing more to it than that. No Socialism involved.
prohibition of alcohol created the mobster. prohibition of drugs created organized crime.
Governments create hugely profitable monopolies when they legislate. Unless governments also step in to regulate the vacuum they create, someone else will. By definition these people are criminals. Someone that is willing to break the law for profit.
Drug law make it very profitable to become a criminal and makes jobs for law enforcement. Thus, organized crime and law enforcement are allies in opposing decriminalization of drugs. Both groups have their livelihoods threatened by any such action and will oppose it strongly through political lobbying and contributions as it is not in their best interests.
The big loser in all this is the taxpayer, who foots the bill. The criminals and law enforcement split the rewards.
Knight 99: when did I say we should pay for the social screw ups? It’s you who wants to pay for them: first by policing them, second by creating drug crime. Not many people run alcohol anymore or cause gang warfare over alcohol distilleries, and the small amount of moon shining that does exist only exists because of taxes and government regulations.
My personal punishment for thievery and violent crime is harsher than the current system and involves the victims being involved in actual sentencing…
Your arguments against their habits sound exactly like the arguments that socialist twit Adam Vaughn makes in Toronto when he talks about gun owners.
langmann, it’s useless to argue with twits like knight99. He’s offering in essence the same arguments put forward by the CTU 100 years ago. It doesn’t matter that prohibition doesn’t work; he’s going to keep banging his head on the same wall anyway.
“Only a retard thinks mind altering drugs are good for a society”
No one of course says this. It’s simply knight’s distortion of the arguments of others because he has none of his own. Fact is only a retard thinks that our current managing of the problem is producing anything other than negative effects.
In the end, all his arguments consist of is insults, threats and irrelevant demands for unconditional freedom to carry guns wherever he likes. You can’t deal with violent, irrational lunatics like this with civilized debate, langmann.
The druggies get quite upset about a threat to their escape from reality. Kinda like that nutty professor. 🙂
Leftists and drugs, maybe correlation doesn’t equal causation, but it looks mighty suspicious.
Langmann >
“first by policing them, second by creating drug crime” “ Not many people run alcohol anymore or cause gang warfare over alcohol distilleries….”
Yea, they all sell drugs now, so what’? Guess by your reasoning we now legalize drugs and they all go away and get nice little jobs at McDonalds, maybe Price Water Copper as chartered accountants. Ok fine, you stick to yours I’ll stick to mine.
CGH >
You’re the weirdo who misinterprets things people say around here as personal insults and then fly’s off the handle. I’ve seen it a couple of times. I remember actually supporting you on a topic many months ago (twice) with you going into a frothing psychotic rant over it. So you can fu*ck off with any opinions about me, you’re a nut.
Langmann #2 >
The other relevance of open carry/ concealed carry laws verses ending drug prohibition is that it’s the same idiots that go on about their freedoms for access to drugs but not others freedoms to carry a firearm.
It’s the same for and against argument on every SDA “legalize drug” thread, and the same pot heads coming out of the closet to fight against proposed inalienable gun rights.
The biggest difference is that a gun does not cause a person to fly off the deep end and destroy others lives. The individual may do that, even one high on drugs, but the gun will never physically alter someone’s mind to make them behave other than they would without it.
So the question I’ve always put forth is what’s their problem?
All that comes out is self imposed “enlightened” arguments for their rights and BS counter arguments for mine.
knight, so good to see you’re still consistent. From the contents of your last, you’ve still got nothing. Can’t deal with the topic so you throw insults.
Typical.
and the same pot heads coming out of the closet to fight against proposed inalienable gun rights.
Give one example of this. I dare you.
cgh >
Only reacting in kind to your insults, show me where I jumped in on you first. Nope first throwing of insults =
cgh at November 29, 2012 8:27 AM:
“It’s simply knight’s distortion of the arguments of others because he has none of his own. Fact is only a retard thinks that our current managing of the problem is producing anything other than negative effects.
In the end, all his arguments consist of is insults, threats and irrelevant demands for unconditional freedom to carry guns wherever he likes. You can’t deal with violent, irrational lunatics like this with civilized debate, langmann.” – CGH
So piss off again if you can’t even get that much right. I’ve made plenty of well placed arguments on the issue, to which 95% of every nation on the planet agrees with. Great company you’re keeping BTW.
LAS & Phil >
Then in jumps Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb the SDA resident trolling potheads like they have anything worth of value to say this time around. I guess you dough heads figure you’ve got some sort of expert opinion, like smoking an occasional joint puts you in some sort of real world the rest of us just can’t see. Losers in every sense of the word.
I find it both sad and funny that people are trying to reason with a man who believes that the entirety of reality, the endless cosmos and beyond, everything that exists and ever will exist, was created solely for the benefit of a specific iron-age desert tribe on the third planet orbiting a small star on the edge of galaxy #23409824234.
This is a person who believes only what he wants to believe, what makes him feel warm and safe. End of story. You will not change his mind.
north @ 2:45 and nold @ 8:10, well said.
I do not need either drunks or stoned on my machines.
Watched the video. Sheesh! And all this time I thought the Cheech and Chong skit was just humour. Who knew?
@cgh
The end of prohibition in the 1930s did not produce more alcoholics.
Did Roe v. Wade lead to more abortions?
(Not trying to argue. Trying to understand your position.)
@ David S.
if you are truly want less government, the first thing you must do is starve it.
Very true.
A tax on MJ. Hmmm. Who are the libertarians who believe in levying a new tax?
@Loki
The WOsD has resulted in a steady increase in totalitarianism …
Methinks GWoT is a bigger culprit.
…….
Are we forgetting another approach? As Nancy Reagan said: ‘Just say no’, non, nein, nyet …’
Rizwan:
Did Roe v. Wade lead to more abortions?
Statistically yes, in reality no. Abortions rose statistically in the United States because of the shutdown of backstreet abortionists which were never captured in the official numbers. More specifically, when Canada’s abortion law was overthrown by a court decision the rate did not rise.
In the 1930s, when prohibition ended, the rate of alcoholism did not significantly increase.
I have fired several employees that were intoxicated at work. All except one were drunk or badly hung-over. I wouldn’t have even known about the guy smoking MJ at work if it weren’t for one of my apprentices accidentally ratting him out which allowed me to catch him at it. Still, he was wasted and the rules are clear. I can say with some confidence that probably all of my current staff use either alcohol or MJ but they manage to keep it restricted to their own time and do not arrive at work smelling like a brewery or a grow-op. I have noticed that the problem is greater among guys over 30, with the under 30 group having better self-control. Trouble is virtually every under 30 I hire needs extensive training for stuff he supposedly was taught in school, but I digress…
Sasquatch, “Yeah I noticed that…the same element that seeks “gunlaws” and “gun-bans”, actively support legalizing not just MJ but most recreational drugs.”
The left doesn’t care whether they are consistent about anything. It’s called relativism and it’s endemic, which is why their systems always fall apart so spectacularly. Trudeau is currently reaping the results of his relativism and yet he still will not learn from his mistake. Fortunately for you he wasn’t sent over to load mortars.
“I saw one of the cool guys, smoking a joint feeding a 81mm mortar…as he dropped the round down the barrel….the wrong way.”
They allow MJ use in the service? Really? God help us.
My usual words. If we could tolerate allowing druggies and their kids to die in the streets and had street sweepers that would scrub them up and take them to the landfill – great – toke away. People who destroy their own and their family’s lives come looking to me to buy their drugs and feed and clothe them. I do have an interest in their useless lives.
Love the photo. Seattle obviously doesn’t allow tall buildings anywhere near the Space Needle. I think the Husky Tower (old name – I know) in Calgary is taller but is dwarfed by the buildings around it.
Pot kills, trust me. An addiction to pot is as bad as booze.
Lies.
A tax on MJ. Hmmm. Who are the libertarians who believe in levying a new tax?
I’ll take it over throwing people in jail and giving cops an infinite revenue stream.
This thread has been pretty encouraging to read.
If we could tolerate allowing druggies and their kids to die in the streets and had street sweepers that would scrub them up and take them to the landfill – great – toke away.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Just like those who drink a beer will surely be found shortly living under a bridge swilling rubbing alcohol.
If you can’t differentiate between recreational pot smokers and needle tracked heroin addicts, you should seek help. Oh, and put down that copy of ‘Reefer Madness’ you’ve been clutching.
Oh, I almost forgot.
Loki, I had tried quitting smoking so many times I was known as the worlds greatest quitter. Then I found e-cigs and kicked the cigs immediately and completely. Coming up on one year without a single cigarette. My GP is amazed at how well it worked and is watching me like a lab rat these days. He wasn’t very keen when I told him I was going to try e-cigs but has come around since.
doowleb “If you can’t differentiate between recreational pot smokers and needle tracked heroin addicts, you should seek help. Oh, and put down that copy of ‘Reefer Madness’ you’ve been clutching.”
No – no difference. The belief that every mind altering substance except weeds destroys lives indicates perhaps a excess of indulgence. And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits. Have another toke.
And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits.
The ‘idiots’ that understand risk and reward and incentive.
Again, you have to be an idiot not to understand the difference between recreational use and serious addiction.
If you want to end the war on drugs and save millions of lives, then quite using!
Druggies always lay the blame on those that don’t want their kids around drugs, Islamic terrorists, or paedophiles.
We can always count on the potheads like LAS to defend all of the above.
You give us our full inalienable rights to concealed carry, stand our ground, and castle laws to defend ourselves from the Liberal doper society and you can stick rat poison in your veins all day every day.
Oh and bring back the death penalty as they have in Singapore, where trafficking and selling drugs to minors is punishable by death. Then I’m game for legalizing pot.
The belief that every mind altering substance except weeds destroys lives indicates perhaps a excess of indulgence. And who are those idiots who think that organized crime is going to give up the business to allow for big government profits. Have another toke.
Wow, I’ll need something mind altering to make any sense of that crypto babble.
Anyways…My circle of friends include many successful businessmen like myself, lawyers and professionals. Been married to the same woman for almost 40 years. However, since this thread is placing me in the untenable position of somewhat agreeing with LAS, I will not be commenting further on the subject.
Doowleb >
“…this thread is placing me in the untenable position of somewhat agreeing with LAS,”
Agreeing with LAS? Give your head a shake, what has LAS ever been right about? The same weirdo who writes nothing on SDA but defend Open Borders, pedophiles, Islamic terrorism and of course legalizing drugs.
People need to ask themselves “what doesn’t LAS defend ?”, and you will clearly see that he doesn’t defend anything that supports healthy western values or a functional society.
The “organized crime” comment that someone made is bang on. You will never take the criminal off the streets by legalizing drugs, at best you take the easy money away from the street dealer and put them in your home looking for some easy money instead.
The Penny Anti potheads like LAS are only interested in self indulgence and doing it for cheaper, thinking they’ll save by growing their own and selling it on the side risk free. These same nitwits also fantasize about having real jobs one day without getting fired for having drugs in their system. Jobs like running sophisticated equipment, emergency services, or other positions that pay well to responsible people who take others physical welfare in hand. Dopers can’t look after themselves properly much less other people, that’s why they can’t have those jobs or positions in real companies.
The Penny Anti potheads like LAS are only interested in self indulgence
The projection is strong with this one.
You give us our full inalienable rights to concealed carry, stand our ground, and castle laws to defend ourselves from the Liberal doper society and you can stick rat poison in your veins all day every day.
I’ll smoke or stick whatever I want in my veins regardless. Don’t like it? TFB.
phil “as if there were some connection between criminal activity and the ingestion of mind/mood altering substances.”
So the A-hole who robbed us and told us that he needed the money to buy drugs was lying. He was probably a bit short for the collection plate at church. A-hole.
“I’ll smoke or stick whatever I want in my veins regardless.”
I draw the line at minors.
If you work in a semidangerous job then you should refuse to work with anyone high or loaded. Employers are constantly on the lookout for that.
So wtf?
What you are describing, my dimwitted scar, is the very real connection between criminal activity and the black market value the war on some drugs places on prohibited substances.
@ Knight 99: You sound like a socialist.
phil “What you are describing, my dimwitted scar, is the very real connection between criminal activity and the black market value the war on some drugs places on prohibited substances.”
And people wouldn’t commit crimes to buy highly taxed drugs, just the illegal ones. Half the cigarettes in Ontario and Quebec are provided thanks to organized crime. Find another argument.
I’ve outlived and buried many substance abusers and paid taxes to raise their kids. Reminds me, I’ve got to buy a headstone for one. He lived to 50 with the last 10 years a waste of skin. Marginal employment after screwing up a highly paid oilpatch career with a couple stretches in jail for pounding on women. Quite the guy.
In Scar’s mind, the black market created by excessive taxation of cigarettes somehow negates the creation of the black market by prohibition. Fascinating.
Scar >
I’ve outlived and buried many substance abusers and paid taxes to raise their kids…… Marginal employment after screwing up a highly paid oil patch career.
Yup have seen it myself many times over, had a couple of welfare uncles who eventually poisoned themselves to death, leaving behind some big sorry ass’d dysfunctional families. Also know a bunch of guys who lost great paying +100K oilfield jobs to smoking some weed.
Langmann >
“You sound like a socialist.”
Yea, how so? I could give a rat’s ass what kind of poison that any of you donuts want to ingest; I actually find it hilarious especially when you all flock out to tell the rest of us how together you have it. I’m simply not interested in paying for, or living in the societal fallout.
Only a retard thinks mind altering drugs are good for a society, if you want to f*ck yourself up on them have at it. The problem is that it’s me and other sober people that pay for your dysfunctional children, your health costs, the road and work related accidents and any other self indulgent BS you expect society to pick up for your lack of intellect.
That’s not socialist, it’s quite the opposite. If we privatize everything, and allow the good people to defend themselves from the money seeking drug abusers, to my mind you should be free to f*ck yourself up all day every day without interference from society. Just get in our face and we legally take yours off, nothing more to it than that. No Socialism involved.
prohibition of alcohol created the mobster. prohibition of drugs created organized crime.
Governments create hugely profitable monopolies when they legislate. Unless governments also step in to regulate the vacuum they create, someone else will. By definition these people are criminals. Someone that is willing to break the law for profit.
Drug law make it very profitable to become a criminal and makes jobs for law enforcement. Thus, organized crime and law enforcement are allies in opposing decriminalization of drugs. Both groups have their livelihoods threatened by any such action and will oppose it strongly through political lobbying and contributions as it is not in their best interests.
The big loser in all this is the taxpayer, who foots the bill. The criminals and law enforcement split the rewards.
Knight 99: when did I say we should pay for the social screw ups? It’s you who wants to pay for them: first by policing them, second by creating drug crime. Not many people run alcohol anymore or cause gang warfare over alcohol distilleries, and the small amount of moon shining that does exist only exists because of taxes and government regulations.
My personal punishment for thievery and violent crime is harsher than the current system and involves the victims being involved in actual sentencing…
Your arguments against their habits sound exactly like the arguments that socialist twit Adam Vaughn makes in Toronto when he talks about gun owners.
langmann, it’s useless to argue with twits like knight99. He’s offering in essence the same arguments put forward by the CTU 100 years ago. It doesn’t matter that prohibition doesn’t work; he’s going to keep banging his head on the same wall anyway.
“Only a retard thinks mind altering drugs are good for a society”
No one of course says this. It’s simply knight’s distortion of the arguments of others because he has none of his own. Fact is only a retard thinks that our current managing of the problem is producing anything other than negative effects.
In the end, all his arguments consist of is insults, threats and irrelevant demands for unconditional freedom to carry guns wherever he likes. You can’t deal with violent, irrational lunatics like this with civilized debate, langmann.
The druggies get quite upset about a threat to their escape from reality. Kinda like that nutty professor. 🙂
Leftists and drugs, maybe correlation doesn’t equal causation, but it looks mighty suspicious.
Langmann >
“first by policing them, second by creating drug crime” “ Not many people run alcohol anymore or cause gang warfare over alcohol distilleries….”
Yea, they all sell drugs now, so what’? Guess by your reasoning we now legalize drugs and they all go away and get nice little jobs at McDonalds, maybe Price Water Copper as chartered accountants. Ok fine, you stick to yours I’ll stick to mine.
CGH >
You’re the weirdo who misinterprets things people say around here as personal insults and then fly’s off the handle. I’ve seen it a couple of times. I remember actually supporting you on a topic many months ago (twice) with you going into a frothing psychotic rant over it. So you can fu*ck off with any opinions about me, you’re a nut.
Langmann #2 >
The other relevance of open carry/ concealed carry laws verses ending drug prohibition is that it’s the same idiots that go on about their freedoms for access to drugs but not others freedoms to carry a firearm.
It’s the same for and against argument on every SDA “legalize drug” thread, and the same pot heads coming out of the closet to fight against proposed inalienable gun rights.
The biggest difference is that a gun does not cause a person to fly off the deep end and destroy others lives. The individual may do that, even one high on drugs, but the gun will never physically alter someone’s mind to make them behave other than they would without it.
So the question I’ve always put forth is what’s their problem?
All that comes out is self imposed “enlightened” arguments for their rights and BS counter arguments for mine.
knight, so good to see you’re still consistent. From the contents of your last, you’ve still got nothing. Can’t deal with the topic so you throw insults.
Typical.
and the same pot heads coming out of the closet to fight against proposed inalienable gun rights.
Give one example of this. I dare you.
cgh >
Only reacting in kind to your insults, show me where I jumped in on you first. Nope first throwing of insults =
cgh at November 29, 2012 8:27 AM:
“It’s simply knight’s distortion of the arguments of others because he has none of his own. Fact is only a retard thinks that our current managing of the problem is producing anything other than negative effects.
In the end, all his arguments consist of is insults, threats and irrelevant demands for unconditional freedom to carry guns wherever he likes. You can’t deal with violent, irrational lunatics like this with civilized debate, langmann.” – CGH
So piss off again if you can’t even get that much right. I’ve made plenty of well placed arguments on the issue, to which 95% of every nation on the planet agrees with. Great company you’re keeping BTW.
LAS & Phil >
Then in jumps Twiddle Dee and Twiddle Dumb the SDA resident trolling potheads like they have anything worth of value to say this time around. I guess you dough heads figure you’ve got some sort of expert opinion, like smoking an occasional joint puts you in some sort of real world the rest of us just can’t see. Losers in every sense of the word.
I find it both sad and funny that people are trying to reason with a man who believes that the entirety of reality, the endless cosmos and beyond, everything that exists and ever will exist, was created solely for the benefit of a specific iron-age desert tribe on the third planet orbiting a small star on the edge of galaxy #23409824234.
This is a person who believes only what he wants to believe, what makes him feel warm and safe. End of story. You will not change his mind.