Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
CBC, November 19th – In perhaps his most forceful comments on climate change to date, [Environment Minister Peter] Kent says the recent Hurricane Sandy that devastated parts of the U.S. East Coast is putting the issue top of mind…”
Steven Goddard, October 20th – October hurricanes used to occur about once every 1.7 years, but now they only occur about once every 5.1 years.
h/t dmorris

I was right from the beginning … The present government still believes in the lie of Climate Change/Global Warming.
They are scared of Dr Fruitfly and enviroMENTAlists – wish they would see the truth – sad for Canada and the world spending millions on this religion.
TWO WORDS: Political Expediency
Paying, to give lip service to a hooker, that is what giving money to facilitate the scam global warming is akin to. Taxpayer “Johns”, do all the work, hooker/environmentalists politicians take all the money and pleasure. That dumbing down of society has worked well for politicians and environMENTAL money thieves, not so well for us taxpayer Johns.
Mike;
It is all about the sound bite. Reacting to events rather than promoting critical thought.
And what should be ‘top of mind’ is that Sandy was NOT a hurricane, but a storm.
Warning: do not wade into the comments. The sheer volume of sheep like bleating of the customary talking points will make you want to smash your computer.
All governments are reluctant to completely let go of the
potentially largest revenue raising scam ever thought up.
The fact that most of the “highly indoctrinated” populace
under 30 are too stupid to have a clue as to what it is
really all about doesn’t help.
When you ask “Have you ever Goggled: Enron Global Warming” and get nothing but blank faces …..
I thought Peter Kent had some brass ones. Apparently not.
Placate, placate, placate….
“Margo McDiarmid, Environment Unit, CBC News.” Is that like “Climate Research Unit, UEA”?
So now there are two hurtin’ Units?
Aside from which, a fat lot of good throwing a few crumbs to the conventional wisdom media crowd is going to do for Peter — he ends up pilloried by both the CBC and the voices of sanity on the subject.
Sadly, Peter ends up coming across like Justin on the CNOOC-Nexen deal — everybody knows he has:
a) no clue what he’s talking about, and/or
b) no belief in what he’s saying.
In Justin’s case, that works fine because his supporters don’t care; in Peter’s case, his supporters feel let down.
Tell them what you think about this. I did.
Conservative contact page.
http://www.conservative.ca/?page_id=72
Looks like Cluck Kent has in his hands some of Santa Obama’s new walk about money. Not a good sign!
Don’t bother with CBC boards.
The ever present leftards can insult, threaten and such to their hearts content, without any problem.
If I put a mild insult on there, your comment is denied by the moderators, because you are not part of the collective, and therefore must be purged.
Better to hang out at the NP.
And now, we have James Moore, defender of the faith, unwilling to touch the CBC, contrary to our popular demand, and now Peter Kent seemingly knuckling under to greentardism.
Are these really Conservatives, or CINOs? This government is following the career path of the BC Liberals, starting off as a seemingly right wing government, only to creep slowly leftward until you can’t tell them apart from -Liberals-, or moderate NDPers.
What is PMSH up to? Is he minding the store? Forgetting his principles? Is this Mulroney redux?
Better to email the MPs direct:
kentp@parl.gc.ca
http://www.peterkent.ca/contact
Another reason for a money grab. An excuse to introduce a carbon tax.
It’s also evident the cabinet believes in the CBC.
Placating the media is no excuse for pulling an Al Gore.
Perhaps western civilization deserves to fail. Let the grown ups rebuild from the ashes while the thumbsuckers sob “why didn’t anyone do something?” Nature has a way of thinning the herd. Those of us who never bought into/make a living from this environmental claptrap will be fine.
Dear Mr. Kent, I wish to present the idea that Sandy was not connected to climate change. Many of the news reports stated that Sandy was unprecedented which is terribly inaccurate. As a former newsman you will be familiar with the sensationalism inherent in that business.
There was a hurricane in 1938 that was far more powerful and caused far more damage. This is referred to as the ‘Great Hurricane of 1938’. Here is the Wikipedia page. http:/ /en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_New_England_hurricane
There was also a hurricane in 1821 with a storm surge of 13 ft which is higher than the 12 ft of Sandy.
Again here is the Wikipedia page. http:/
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1821_Norfolk_and_Long_Island_Hurricane
Since both these events occurred before the widespread use of gasoline and oil furnaces they can hardly be attributed to increased atmospheric CO2 due to fossil fuel use.
In addition Hurricane Hazel of 1954 was rated Category 4 and struck as far inland as Toronto.
Please look at all the facts before you decide on a policy.
His email is Minister@ec.gc.ca
David Southam at November 21, 2012 10:00 AM
I almost feel sorry for the guy. He more than any other minister has perhaps the most difficult job of reversing decades of heavy environmentalcase influence over gov’t policy. No matter what he does he’s going to face severe opposition. I believe the CPC is being pragmatic in playing the long game here, which is as it should be really. Pushing the pendulum too hard just makes it swing back at you twice as fast.
The CPC are experts at paying lip service to globull warming and doing nothing about it.
Keeps the sheep happy.
Are these really Conservatives, or CINOs?
There’s no question at this point. They are the Harper Party. Doing whatever it takes to make Harper happy.
Sandy wasn’t even a very strong Hurricane. Category 1.
The CPC are experts at paying lip service to globull warming and doing nothing about it.
Keeps the sheep happy.
Posted by: langmann
Exactly. Because you can’t have a rationale conversation with an eco-greenie religious zealot.
You are so right, Fred. I have been watching a Facebook thread with a couple of atmospheric scientists, and one of them, a professor at a university, is not only into AGW hook, line and sinker, but he’s also being an unbelievably obstinate jerk about it. He’s being very personally insulting to skeptics and, honestly, making himself look bad. My wife, who took classes from this prof, tells me that it’s part of his character to be a jerk, especially when one questions the orthodoxy–you know, just like real scientists do.
He later issued a non-apologetic apology, stating that the guy he was personally insulting knows him well and that his default setting is smart@$$. Basically back peddling, after he got called out for being ridiculous and insulting.
I have other FB acquaintances (all blocked) who throw around the vile term “deniers” and then claim ignorance when you tell them (for the umpteenth time) what that term evokes and that they damn well know it. Then when you throw facts at them, they predictably go back to insulting your intelligence and so on. It’s quite tiresome, so nowadays I tend to sit back, let the rabble squeal on, all the while knowing that, years from now, we realists will be vindicated. Small comfort, but it beats the crap out of bashing my head against a wall.
It’s the sun, son.
Just say no to solar warming denial.
Sgt Lejaune at November 21, 2012 9:36 AM has already written what I wanted to say. “Prevention” of AGW gives consent to two things that governments want to do anyway:
raise more money, and harass citizens.
Obsessing over a propagated non existant “threat” is for partisan zombies. Harper smiles and nods to the foamy-mouthes CBC enviro-zombies and then quietly ignores their hysteria. All the real people and true corporate/political leaders forge on progressing a rational futurist agenda in spite of the best efforts of the loony left and climate zombies to sabotage human development/evolution.
Being labeled “anti-science” by the zombie left is simple envy at people who reason outside the herd mentality and who refuse to drink from the poisoned well of hysteria and self delusion.
Harper smiles and nods to the foamy-mouthes CBC enviro-zombies and then quietly ignores their hysteria.
And then shovels billions of dollars at ‘renewables’ and ethanol, and mandating the latter.
Posted by: LAS at November 21, 2012 12:32 PM
Can you provide link to your claim?
I’m sure you’re right about the billions, but I like to verify facts.
Maybe he’s just being like Obama. You know, lying to his enemies.
Occam – exactly right. I think that we ought to ignore any CBC or Toronto Star or other leftist written article. Look at the governmental actions instead, which is to withdraw from Kyoto and to reduce subsidies to environmental groups.
Also, remember that climate change happens to be a scientific fact of our planet; we’ve all seen the charts Kate has put up showing the massive cyclical changes over hundreds of thousands of years.
What is at question, is not climate change, but causality. The AGW leftist crowd blame everything, from the climate to jihadism, on Western man. Notice that the government doesn’t subscribe to this non-scientific nonsense.
Also remember that the CPC is the government of all the people, not just conservatives. It must acknowledge their views as ‘worthy of discussion’. And remember that it took three elections to obtain a majority. Until 2011, environmental bills had to acknowledge the hysteria of the NDP and Liberals against western industrialism.
But again, note the government actions. Rejection of Kyoto.
Compare with the US, and its EPA regulations against, for example, farmer’s ploughs causing dust.
Ethanol, by the way, is not an evil product; it’s been around for many years, and is added to gasoline (not subsituted for)at about 5% to make it burn cleanly.
is added to gasoline (not subsituted for)at about 5% to make it burn cleanly.
It rots out your engine. It is garbage.
Canada’s ethanol scheme isn’t quite the boondoggle the American one is, and our relatively new mandate has only reached 5% so far, but it’s still not easy on Canadians’ wallets. We shell out subsidies of approximately $250-million a year to the ethanol industry.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/08/20/marni-soupcoff-our-ethanol-policy-feeds-gas-tanks-before-humans-drop-the-mandate/
Stephen Harper is an enemy of free markets.
“May contain upto 10% ethanol” may not be deceptive, but it sure is ambiguous.
(Saw this website on where to get ethanol free gas from. Not sure how reliable it is.)
http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp
list of stations that sell pure, ethanol-free gasoline in the U.S. and Canada
Sgt Lejaune at November 21, 2012 9:36 AM
Exactly. Government does not want the truth. This is a tax farm for sheeple. Real science need not apply. Nor real research to stop the tax honey from flowing.
Be of good cheer! My wife today received a letter requesting financial support, from the Conservative party, with “Will you tell Prime Minister Harper you oppose the NDP carbon tax?”
That shows where their hearts lie. I likely didn’t receive one because I am maxed out. With me the Conservative canvassers have a technique which is surefire:
they ask if I know what the NDP is up to. After they tell me, the only question is, “how much?”
“Will you tell Prime Minister Harper you oppose the NDP carbon tax?”
That shows where their hearts lie.
There’s gullible, and then there’s wanton stupidity.