36 Replies to “We Told You So”

  1. “These fires can contribute a larger proportion of the carbon dioxide released in several western and southeastern states, including Alaska, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Washington, Arkansas, Mississippi and Arizona.”
    It seems to me that there should be some kind of carbon credit trading system for these fires. Why should these eight states release so much CO2 when everyone suffers the harm that it does? I say that until there’s a carbon credit system to cover off the CO2 that these fires release, these eight states should no longer be permitted to have their bonfires or whatever.

  2. But if there is so much CO2 that is produced around burning trees, that means that it is CO2 that is causing the trees to burn in the first place.
    Correlation is proof.
    Man is the cause of so many forest fires!
    /anonymous “strawman” troll who swallows Algore’s gospel wholesale.
    Oh, and I’m still waiting for an answer.

  3. More great Reagan quotes:
    A tree’s a tree. How many more do you need to look at?
    How do you tell a communist? Well, it’s someone who reads Marx and Lenin. And how do you tell an anti-Communist? It’s someone who understands Marx and Lenin.
    I’ve never been able to understand why a Republican contributor is a ‘fat cat’ and a Democratic contributor of the same amount of money is a ‘public-spirited philanthropist’.
    If the Soviet Union let another political party come into existence, they would still be a one-party state, because everybody would join the other party.
    Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong.
    One way to make sure crime doesn’t pay would be to let the government run it.
    The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would steal them away.
    We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
    We can not play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.
    When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.
    Capitalism is unequal blessings; communism is shared misery
    Without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure.
    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/r/ronald_reagan.html

  4. Compare that to the sayings of the peanut farmer.
    “There is never a bad time to run away!”
    “There is no such thing as too big a tax hike.”
    “America bad, Cuba good.”
    “Make the rich pay.”
    and my personal favorite…
    “I never met a dollar I didn’t think was mine.”
    Jimmy Cawtah
    Y’all enjoy them goobers now.

  5. If anyone’s upset about the co2 release from fires in California, just wait for the beetle killed forest fires in B.C. sometime in the next few years.
    There’s millions of acres of snags just waiting for the right conditions.
    The conflagration here will make Calfornia’s fires look like a campfire. The only difference is no Hollywood stars will lose their homes, so maybe CNN will ignore it, and it won’t count in the great scheme of things.

  9. What’s the matter, manny? Still mad that Reagan wouldn’t let the Sandinista Commies win or let Fidel conquer Grenada?
    Want to talk about “war criminals”? Here’s some war criminals-how about half the Democrats in Congress being guilty of treason in wartime?

  10. “It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s that they know so much that just isn’t so.”
    Ronald Reagan

  11. The Democrats started and prosecuted the war in Vietnam. The Republicans ended it.
    Then Jimmy Carter toppled the Shah of Iran and welcomed in the Islamofascist regime, starting the current war.
    This is liberalism.
    Manny the troll must have skipped the ‘superior race’ note from his hero Tommy Douglass. In fact, I wager Manny the troll would’ve been a victim of Tommy Douglass.

  12. The Democrats started and prosecuted the war in Vietnam. The Republicans ended it.
    Then Jimmy Carter toppled the Shah of Iran and welcomed in the Islamofascist regime, starting the current war.
    This is liberalism.
    Manny the troll must have skipped the ‘superior race’ note from his hero Tommy Douglass. In fact, I wager Manny the troll would’ve been a victim of Tommy Douglass.

  13. It just so happens, daisy, that the US officially got into Vietnam during the Eisenhower administration. What toppled the Shah was the CIA overthrow of democracy in Iran, also during Eisenhower. As for the amiable dunce, he amiably supported and funded torture, murder, terrorism, etc., no wonder he has such a fan base here.

  15. no wonder he has such a fan base here

    Do a search and show us all the posts by Kate on Eisenhower.
    Your statement proves Reagan’s maxim: “It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s that they know so much that just isn’t so.”

  16. Some number of years from now, mankind will desperately seek ways to increase the carbon dioxide content of the atmosphere.

  17. manny at November 2, 2007 11:25 AM
    I just stopped in for a second and liked what I saw. Keep up the good work manny.

  18. You would, albatros… it’s the perfect meeting of two teenaged minds. The world is waiting with bated breath for you leftists to grow up – try and cooperate. Or failing that, try not to copulate – we don’t need children having children and perpetuating the cycle of narcissistic left-lib, feel-good, hive thinking.

  20. Doug: “‘no wonder he has such a fan base here’ Do a search and show us all the posts by Kate on Eisenhower. Your statement proves Reagan’s maxim: ‘It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s that they know so much that just isn’t so.'”
    Alas, Doug, “amiable dunce” is not a reference to Eisenhower.

  21. Doug: “‘no wonder he has such a fan base here’ Do a search and show us all the posts by Kate on Eisenhower. Your statement proves Reagan’s maxim: ‘It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s that they know so much that just isn’t so.'”
    Alas, Doug, “amiable dunce” is not a reference to Eisenhower: 3w.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22amiable+dunce%22&btnG=Google+Search&meta=

  23. The large quantity of co2 released at once vs. the slow release of cars. I think it might boil down to absorbency, like your gut with booze.
    That article did mention the rate of decomposition being better with sunlight–Not according to my composter.

  24. Moron, google “moron” and a mirror will come up.
    Also, google “dictator” under images and you will see yourself with a number of your idols, Mao, Pol-Pot, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Layton, Chavez, people that didn’t let freedom and individual liberty get in the way of pursuing their agenda.

  26. “Reagan was right about everything.”
    Waaaaait a second here.
    I thought giving missiles to the Iranian Islamofascists, lying to Congress, raising taxes, increasing spending, inflating the deficit and ballooning the debt, financing Osama bin Laden and Sadam Hussein and savings and loan corruption were bad things for conservatives.
    Judging from the support conservatives still give the Conservative Party or Republicans like Guliani, I should have realized that was no longer the case, but this certainly reinforces that.

  27. More Reagan goodness:
    “Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidise it.”
    “No government ever voluntarily reduces itself in size. Government programs, once launched, never disappear. Actually, a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.”
    “If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals — if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom.”
    “The struggle now going on for the world will never be decided by bombs or rockets, by armies or military might. The real crisis we face today is a spiritual one; at root, it is a test of moral will and faith.”
    “No arsenal or no weapon in the arsenals of the world is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.”
    Boy do I miss the Gipper.

  28. Moron meet google: “Also, google “dictator” under images and you will see yourself with a number of your idols, Mao, Pol-Pot, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Layton, Chavez, people that didn’t let freedom and individual liberty get in the way of pursuing their agenda.”
    Indeed.

  29. Hey Mr. Gipper (you only wish):
    Clinton eavesdropped too. And kept FBI files on hundreds of his political opponents (Nixon was impeached for just ONE). And used people’s private shenanigans to blackmail them (had to keep down “bimbo eruptions” out of the courts and the public eye, after all).
    All this against fellow Americans, to protect his own skin.
    The Bush administration is eavesdropping to protect America from people who have publicly said they want to bring her down. That’s what leaders do. Protect their country.
    As for Ted’s summary of Reagan’s wrongs . . . sure his policies had unforeseen consequences. So did Clinton, as he sold nuclear secrets to China for campaign $, allowed N. Korea to go nuclear with money from America’s “aid” dollars, etc.
    Reagan made all those decisions in light of the Cold War, to contain Communist power. Scoff now, but hey, the Berlin Wall’s down and those once under Communist power (Eastern Europeans) love the man. Giving money to Osama way back so he could fight Russia in Afghanistan helped drain the Soviet Union’s resources. It seemed good policy at the time. No one can predict the future.
    Lefties love to demonize the man because he proved them so wrong about their favourite socialist state. And because he gave the country they hate so much, the US, a longer lease on life.
    Someday you’ll get your wish and America will go down. And you will hate what comes next, as you’ll finally encounter true facism and true lack of freedom. Childish morons, you American-haters. Childish, blind morons.

  30. Oh, and placing surveillance of terrorists and their supporters on the same moral plane as the deeds of Mao, Pol-Pot, Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, who killed and tortured millions, is just . . . so . . . university-EDUCATED of you! Typical moronic, march-in-step, trendily radical reasoning.
    What’s the use. There’s too many freedom-loathing minds like yours out there. The West is SO going down.

  31. ann: “Oh, and placing surveillance of terrorists and their supporters on the same moral plane as the deeds of Mao, Pol-Pot, Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, who killed and tortured millions, is just . . . so . . . university-EDUCATED of you!”
    Odd that you didn’t level the same criticism at “Moron meet google,” who threw in Jack Layton with that crowd. But perhaps you actually agree that all NDP are but mass murders in waiting.
    On the other hand, since it was “Moron meet google” who set the terms of the debate by operationalizing “dictator” as “people that [sic] didn’t let freedom and individual liberty get in the way of pursuing their agenda,” maybe it isn’t so morally relativistic to note that the Bush administration has also subordinated American’s civic liberties at times in order to pursue their security agenda.

  32. Actually, it’s the “Truman Doctrine” (Democrat), this pesky containing communism thingy the Americans kept doing until the mass-murdering regime collapsed.
    Did you know that JFK and his brother Bobby always supported and praised McCarthy?
    Clinton bombed Kosovo without UN approval. He also used WMDs as an excuse to write up a big regime-change policy for Iraq, as well as bombing of and troop build-up around Iraq.
    But the lefty script is: Dems good, Repubs evil.
    Actually, it’s just all U.S. presidents trying to protect their country, as all leaders of most countries do. And they make mistakes doing so, but they also get some things right.
    Why is US always the big villian? Check out France’s history of the 20th century, especially what they did in Africa. 100 000s dead by French troops. Check out all of Europe’s countries’ histories, also what they did to other nations besides themselves in their wretched two World Wars.
    Which country on this whole benighted planet would you rather have on top then the U.S.? And don’t cop out by saying “none.” There’s always a nation on top.

  33. ann: “But the lefty script is: Dems good, Repubs evil.”
    Personally, I think neither party is particularly splendid at the moment.
    “Actually, it’s just all U.S. presidents trying to protect their country, as all leaders of most countries do. And they make mistakes doing so, but they also get some things right.”
    So Bush, as but one of many such leaders, should be immune to criticism? I doubt you give Trudeau, Chretien, and Martin the same forgiving treatment.
    “Which country on this whole benighted planet would you rather have on top then the U.S.”
    I’ve always been fond of the Norwegians.

  34. Then go to Norway. It’s probably the last place to be affected by your global-warming-caused-by-evil-capitalists.
    They could use one more solid frozen brain, I’m sure.
    I asked a serious question. There’s lots of big powers out there . . . China, Russia, EU. Which one do you want to be your boss?
    Probably the one that would make you the Comissar of Correct-Think, so you could imprison all the conservatives.
    If the US is your definition of a fascist state, you’re better off running to the country least like it.
    So you think surveillance to catch terrorists is equal to the torture and murder of millions of one’s own people to stay in power (Mao, Pol-pot, Stalin), and a man who will leave office when his term is up (Bush) is equal to dicators-for-life?
    Norway, please take this one. He’s lowering our nation’s IQ.

  35. Conversation here is over for my part, by the way. You lefties get too repetitive too fast. The “I’ve always been fond of the Norwegians” was good, though. You got me :-). I should have clarified my position on “what country would you rather have on top” to “what great power would have on top?”
    Now go ahead and enjoy your verbal assaults if it makes you feel manly. I’m gone from this thread.
    “It’s not that our liberal friends are ignorant. It’s just that they know so much that just isn’t so.”
    Ronald Reagan

  36. And the eco wackos and their crazy forest managment ideas has smokey bear feeling nervous

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