66% GOP wants Trump to run in 2024, 79% say election ‘stolen’.
The belief among President Trump’s supporters that the election victory was “stolen” through fraud has surged anew, driving 66% to urge the Republican to run in 2024 if Joe Biden is certified the winner.
A new survey for the communications and messaging firm Seven Letter found that 79% of Trump supporters believe that Democrats stole the election from Trump, even more than a similar Rasmussen Reports survey last week that put the number at 75%.
And as a result, 66% of supporters want the president to run again in 2024, which he has privately vowed to do. In the survey, he outdistanced Vice President Mike Pence and his son Donald Trump Jr.
And there’s plenty to motivate them. Biden’s welcome back of Obama era swamp creatures combined with the Republicans new foothold on redistricting lays the groundwork for major gains in 2022.
And it is not too early to herald what might best be described, if not as a wave, as the Trump Undertow of 2020.
Because, like an unseen riptide, this year’s results just handed the GOP an advantage many never thought possible. And it carried far away from shore Democratic hopes and dreams.
“Wait,” you say, “Trump lost the presidency.”
Yes, he did. But Trump, even as he lost, engineered a huge win for the GOP this month, and one that will echo through American politics as our once-a-decade reapportionment fights begin.
“On the eve of reapportionment, Republicans are now in a better position than they were after 2010,” Noah Rothman noted in Commentary. “Following those elections, Republicans controlled 54 of 99 state legislative chambers.” (Nebraska’s legislature is unicameral.)
That number is now 61.
If anything, Rothman understates the impact of the GOP domination of state legislatures. After the 2010 election, congressional redistricting lived in the shadow of a Supreme Court suspicious of gerrymandering. In one 2015 case, the court upheld the redistricting maps of Arizona’s absurdly partisan “citizens’ commission” by a 5-to-4 margin. Today, two of the five justices in the majority on that case have left the court. State legislatures now may do their redistricting work free of fear of new “tests” invented by the court to strike at their maps. Indeed, commissions of the sort that design districts in California, Ohio and Virginia may not be long for the books — a never-very-popular, post-Watergate-era reform whose era is now long over.
The new Supreme Court may be revisiting its 2015 decision very soon.
In nearly two dozen states, the congressional district mapping is safely in the hands of the GOP. That’s because Trump generated huge turnout in red states as well as blue, and Republicans did well down a lot of ballots.
It is ironic that Trump’s narrow losses in Arizona, Georgia and Wisconsin kept him from a second consecutive term. It wasn’t a conspiracy that cost Trump the White House but a terrible combination of bad timing — the vaccines he promised were announced a fortnight too late for them to impact voting — and bad polling. Polling directs resources, locates rallies, energizes or depresses turnout. If polling tells you Wisconsin is lost, Pennsylvania is competitive and other states are safe, when none of that is accurate, the consequences are disastrous.
The party Trump leads is reluctant to tilt at legal windmills, but it is eager for answers about why no one expected so many states to finish closely or projected House Republicans to pick up seats. The headline that read “Biden leads Trump by 17 points in Wisconsin” is what I’ll never forget, nor should the pollsters, the media or the experts.
Elected Republican leaders will rightly balk at asking state legislatures to overturn popular votes — as radical a “constitutional” innovation as packing the Supreme Court, and just as repugnant to rule-of-law conservatives. But the GOP nomination in 2024 will be very much Trump’s for the taking should his health and energy remain as they are now.
Whether he runs again, Trump has reset the stage for the decennial remaking of the maps on which lawmaking at every level of government depends. It’s a proper capstone for a first term — or a last.
66% of GOP doesn’t realize there won’t be a 2024 election if this one (and past ones) don’t get exposed.
Which female Dem recently said, “we will never allow this to happen again”? Doesn’t matter who really, it’s what they all believe and want, and will fight for with the 24/7/365 help of their media water carriers. One-party rule is the goal, they were pretty forward about it during the GW Bush years, they just didn’t have a strategy yet.
Say, where’s FatDyke and vertigo, I mean UnMe and dizzy today? Get out of the sack, you lazy hungover beached whales!
Your right.
These voting machines will just change company name and be rebranded as totally safe again as they are far more careful in vote switching as they were extremely good at its job.
The Democrats will be going after all Trump supporters, from disbarred lawyers to jailing inner circle people.
Even President Trump may be jailed by these crazies.
Right on Johnbrooks. This is literally the last shot at upending the deep state and I fear they have succeeded with their extreme fraud.
Just 66%? Seems low to me.
Trump 2024.
Ivanka 2028.
NO FAMILY DYNASTIES.
I don’t even think Trump should run in 24 for that matter. He’s 74 now. He’ll be 78 then. Meaning he’d be 82 by the time the 28 election happens. No. That’s simply too old. He wouldn’t be nearly as effective, assuming his health holds up that long in the first place. And assuming the RNC ever lets an outsider such as he anywhere near their nomination process in 24 or ever again either.
His message worked as on outsider running for office in the first place; even then it required an absolutely detestable opponent running against him for it to work. It almost worked running for reelection; he’d probably have crushed Biden if not for the pandemic. I don’t think it would work as a third-timer near-octogenarian trying to claw his way back.
Sometimes the moment is just gone. Past. Never to be gotten back.
He DID crush Biden but for the mail in ballots.
I think you mean but for the cheat ballots.
No he means the completely legitimate ballots Trump idiotically told his idiot followers to avoid.
They will do anything possible to destroy and bankrupt him. The media will be leading the charge. What else will they have to report?
If he’s serious about 2024 he needs to work to destroy the Biden presidency from DAY ONE on. Just like Obama and Clinton but this time instead of behind the scenes subversion it needs to be in the open. Anti-Biden roadshow rallies or weekly broadcasts or something need to happen for one. The media will never say a negative thing about Biden we all know that. It’s up to Trump to do the job the fake news media won’t.
If Trump wants, he can start a new party and destroy both existing parties, and that would be a recipe for disaster, as you need 2 parties, one to keep the other on the straight and narrow.
NME,there is little evidence there have been two parties for decades.
One of President Trumps gifts to us,has been the exposure of how close the two sides are.
Being for all intents and purposes a Uni-Party dedicated to their own enrichment.
For the “straight and narrow” has had few political animals walking it for years.
Just as here in Can Ahh Duh,where the liberal and conservative politicians are in a world of their own.One with no room for a free productive citizenry.
John, I’ll not argue with that!
Won’t matter. In the 2024 election, Democrats will have ushered in mail-in ONLY voting, and will have printed out tens of millions extra but real official ballots ahead of time. Whichever Democrat is running will win with 340 million votes, and the media will cheer.
It’s over for Trump.
In 2024 he’ll be 78. The GOP won’t let him win the nomination.
It won’t matter anyway because demographics make a GOP win impossible from here on out.
Red states become swing states and swing states become blue states.
The next time the GOP maybe wins the Presidency whomever it is will be to the left of Obama. Otherwise the whole country will just be permanently Democrat like California.
They never will again. The Dems see and know that they can fraud forever. In all the major cities in the US, when they took oveer, they never let go. 50 years of “Democratocracy” in Chicago, Detroit, Baltimore, etc. You see what you get.
It’s time for Trump to exit the stage for good.
I know the Trumpomaniacs don’t want to hear that, but everything’s got a best-before date, and Trump will have hit his, if he hasn’t already. The Republicans should select someone who is both effective and moderately diplomatic.
(Killer)
What another Bush?
How did that work out.
Problem is, honest elections are now integrally tied to a Trump win. Either Trump wins, or the US is no longer a viable democracy, The illegitimate Biden will destroy the country. Phony elections will become the norm.
Biden is going to be handcuffed by Democrat election failure.
Democrats still don’t have the Senate, and probably won’t after losing at least one of the Georgia Senate Run-Offs in January. The Dems lost seats in the House. Their lead there is down to the mid-single-digits. Trump has re-set US politics. Blacks and Hispanics are back in play for the Republicans, in a way not seen in decades. The crass, buffoonish Trump personality is going away, but his political legacy is a generational gift to the Right.
“Blacks and Hispanics are back in play for the Republicans, in a way not seen in decades. ”
More cope. No, blacks are not in play. There were some anomalous pockets of support for Trump in Cubano and Texican communities. Texas is still going to purple. It’s happening. Trump didn’t reset jack. To the extent the GOP has any strength it’s because of gerrymandering and the senate and EC being basically affirmative action for their party.
The election was obviously a total fraud. Trump had more people turn up to one rally than Biden had show up to every rally he held combined. There are a ton of eye witness accounts of poll watchers being forced out while people “counted ballots”.
Of course holding recounts of ballot boxes stuffed with fake ballots is pointless, so who knows how recounts and court cases are going to go.
If Biden takes the office of President, Americans on the right need to do what the antifa types are doing and go into civil disobedience mode and not allow Biden to govern. It shouldn’t be hard since he would likely have won the election in a landslide had it been a fair election. The next step would be to sort out the fact that Americans don’t seem to be able to competently run a election before the next election, and if they can’t do that the next election should be boycotted. What’s the point of voting if the vote is going to be a fraud, everyone involved knows it’s a fraud, and no one can do anything about it?
Every time the government tries to do something that is blatantly unconstitutional, which is just about everything they do the right needs to boycott, riot and burn. They need to become “ungovernable”. If that doesn’t work, it’s time to pull out all those guns and ammo that people have stashed and fight back.
They will have told President Trump, “all is forgiven if you just step aside, there’s always 2024.”
The President has apparently kept his end of the bargain. Douglas Emhoff will not keep his.
Doug’s first act as the Housegirl’s puppet master will not be to assassinate Joe. It will be to assassinate President Trump. Then he’ll finish off Joe.
“Polling says 66% …” After the demonstrated failure of polling in this stolen election?
What does polling even mean if the only real poll is corrupted?
As noted above,are these 66% morons?
As ,if the corrupt succeed,when do these people expect to participate in another meaningful election?
And why?
If this one is stolen,what point is there in voting?
Smashing faith in the ballot box is a truly stupid idea,so naturally our progressive comrades are all over it.
No Kraken for Christmas.
I agree with the notion expressed above. If the left gets away with stealing the 2020 election, what makes you think that there will ever be another meaningful, let alone honest election in 2022 or 2024?
We know what we have seen so far. It couldn’t be more obvious, but ‘legal proof’ is ever elusive.
The left doesn’t bother with legalisms, except when they use them to trip up and delay the citizenry.
Wait until 2022. We’ll take back the house! Wait until 2024, we’ll also take back the presidency!
Extend a vague hope. Then gradually disappoint…
We’ve heard it all before.
Here’s the real question.
After, Fast & Furious, The IRS scandals, NSA spying on US journalists and citizens, Benghazi, Hillary’s ‘secret’ server, Crossfire Hurricane,
Bogus Mueller investigation, Shampeachment, NSA/CIA/FBI heads lying to Congress, Covid lock downs, the list goes on and on…
What if, just like always, nothing happens?
At best, maybe some lower tier personnel do a year or two in some minimum security Fed. Prison. Or they get reassigned, but still get paid and get their perks and retirement. All at tax payer expense.
What if the elites, their flunkies in the media and political class show us once again that their are two sets of laws and they really are too big to convict and arrest. Just. Like. Always.
What then?
Where do we draw the line?
The left is terrified that the president’s legal counsel will get in front of the Supreme Court with evidence that will show it is impossible that Biden won this election.
Look at the numbers – how was turn out as high as it was in all of these Dem cities in swing states? The answer, straight up ballot box stuffing and fraud. It’s not possible, take a look at the numbers and the Dems know it.
If Biden somehow can slither his was through this, it’s a big issue that 50% of the population will not acknowledge that he is president, nor should they. If this happens I fear we are headed for civil war.
Yes it was such a blatant, in-your-face fraud it’s a wonder they can keep a straight face.
It’s outrageous- audits will uncover just how blatant it was – 130% turn outs, less than 1% spoiled ballots. The turn out for Trump was way higher than they anticipated so they had to halt the vote to work more fraudulent ballots into the system and this will be what sink them in the end hopefully. But the media has been unbelievable in this period – no one wants to even look into this or talk about this?
B&P, That’s exactly what I said a week ago in another SDA post. They halted the count to add more fraudulent ballots, because it just wasn’t enough with just the Dominion machines. It’s so blatant in our face fraud, that they shouldn’t even be recounting, they should be arresting. Civil war is on it’s way. To many disenfranchised deplorables will not let this stand. If they do, then it’s already lost!
I don’t think Trump can keep anyone around him for very long, particularly a legal team. His family seams to be the only exception.
His ego won’t allow him to come back in 2024. Whether legitimate or not, he has been “fired”. Besides, (proper) foreign oversight would be required for the US to run a clean election (ink on the finger, ID proof of citizenship, paper ballot, hand counting, 100% traceable ballots, and scrutinized at every step – not rocket science) and corruption (and US federalism – elections controlled by individual states) is too deeply imbedded for that to happen.
Biden will follow the Spawn’s lead and reverse most everything his predecessor has accomplished through executive authority. The American left likes Trudeau the same way the Canadian left liked Obama. The deranged dominion is their “new” model. Holding on to the Senate is the only thing that can slow the inevitable train wreck of what is now just the largest bankrupt welfare state.
Part of me was surprised Trump even ran for reelection. I thought back in 16/17 that he might take his win and go one-and-done so he could boast he was undefeated and going out on his terms. Especially once he came to understand just how much the Swamp hated him and was dead set on his destruction. Though that just brought out the fighter in him I suppose.
Beer and Popcorn… agreed.
It bothers me when publications mendaciously refer to China Joe as having “won” the election… no he didn’t and no he hasn”t.
I think its a big problem if the Deep State and their Media are able to insert China Joe and Kamaltoe into the WH.
All hell is going to break loose IMO… the USA isn’t Canada. I don’t see Americans letting their country be legislated away by compromised corrupt politicians like Canadians have done.
Demoncrats and their Media believe citizens will simply accept massive unquestionable Demoncrat voter fraud and an illegal election and bow down to these globalist thugs. I strongly disagree with that sentiment.
Globalist gangsters are going to push their corrupt agenda until the dam bursts… it will get very very ugly.
Biden has no power, his win is attributable to big tech, the media, voter fraud and globalist money.
Voters have not elected Joe Biden, these other forces have.
His power should not be acknowledged in any way.
I am currently watching Biden on T.V. and all I can say is: “GOD HELP THE U.S.A.”with the Democrat policies they are looking at a complete disaster over the next 4 years.
DD, It ain’t just the US that’ll need divine help, we’ll be in the mix too….um’, we already are with the Turd.
Cheer up, everyone.
Biden will be handcuffed by a Republican Senate, a virtually tied House, and a 6-3 Supreme Court.
The Dems are about to undergo a civil war; the moderates versus the socialist Squad.
Trump, the buffoon is gone. “Trumpism” has an established beach-head and is in the ascendancy.
If Trump doesn’t overturn this election there will never be a fair election in the USA again. It will be the beginning of the end of any semblance of freedom for anyone in the world. And personally I think 2024 means Trump will be too old to run and that’s assuming the crooked Democrats with their corrupted DOJ and FBI henchmen haven’t found and excuse to put him in jail or kill him.
I’m curious. If the election was so obviously fraudulent and stolen, how come Trump and his many legal teams have never once claimed fraud in court, but only in front of the cameras? Not in one single court. How come, when in court, where it actually matters, they all state quite affirmatively that “they are not making any claim for fraud”? Even Rudy. I’m just curious.
Their strategy may be to quickly move things to the Supreme Court. Lower level court challenges are time consuming and not guaranteed if they don’t consider constitutional issues Mantl8wer level courts might not want to risk making such a momentous decision. Lower level court victories are not and miss. The cheating problem involved several states. The Supremes must decide this. I think the Biden apparent victory will be shot down. The transition business gets media off Trump’s back for now. It 8s not a concession.
Sorry, but that does not make any sense.
The Supreme Court, all courts of appeal in fact, do not make determinations of fact. They only look at the law. If you don’t present evidence of fraud at trial, you cannot introduce it on appeal. They can’t make their own determination of facts.
And that is especially when Trump’s legal teams, including Rudy, *admit* in court that they are not claiming there is any fraud. You can appeal a legal decision, but you can’t appeal your own statements and your own evidence.
So again, why would they turn to the courts and confirm there is no fraud, but then say something completely different to us in the public?
Obviously, they, like most everyone else, knows there no actual fraud.
I read that Pence was in with Mattis and Coats, who try to unseat Trump, so Trump may just throw in the towel for that reason. Too many of his “trusted” people turn on him, because of EGO, or they are bought and paid for, or thump thump thump
Mattis is a rank SOB. Outright detestable Swamp creature.
Pence, I think is loyal. Not loud loyal, but loyal. But his political career is over. I don’t think he could stage his own run for POTUS without the media & Swamp hanging the Trump years on him at every turn. He’d never be able to create enough space for his own vision, whatever that might be.
I suspect Haley is the one that the RNC wants to groom for 24. She’s bought & paid for by the corporate class, served Trump just long enough to try & claim she was an ally of his, got out of his admin early enough not to be tarnished by the defeat.. she’s a calculating one. Which isn’t necessarily a good thing for America.
Everybody give your head a shake. Trump should run again in 2024, Whisky…Tango…Foxtrot…!!! What are you thinking. If this election is not overturned by the Electoral College, Trump will be charged and imprisoned by the Democrats who have been out for his blood since he unexplainedly beat the Anointed One’s replacement. Then the Democrats will enforce severe lockdowns accompanied with ‘travel papers’ and ‘isolation’ camps. The flagrant fraud that has been exposed in this election is just an indication of what actually transpired in 2016. The media tried to con the electorate about Hilary’s ability and popularity. Fortunately there were enough Americans that could see through the fraud committed then. Unfortunately there were no investigations because the Democrats were flat footed about the amount of votes they actually needed to sway that election. They didn’t make the same mistake this time but they were again caught out and had to pull all the stops to get control when a lot of people realized that they had been conned over the last four years by the media and the demonization of Trump. Trump’s successes over the last four years are unprecedented in American history and the media and politicians have done nothing but downplay those actions. If this election is not overturned and convictions and imprisonment dealt out as required, the greatest experiment in mankind’s evolution will have been butchered.
They cannot charge and imprison Trump without starting a civil war. If they know what is good for them, they will treat Trump graciously. Many Americans have guns and know how to use them.
Jeez, look at all the loss of hope here, that’s what watching the corrupt, partisan media will do.
Is TRUMP still POTUS? Yes, of course.
Has he conceded? Not by a long shot.
Did TRUMP and staff prepare for the Election fraud, secretly?
Did anyone remember his EO from 2018, regarding election fraud?
Did anyone forget the SC makeup?
Does anyone think that maybe TRUMP and staff could have utilized the greatest schadenfreude ever on Bidet and his Corruptocrats, in preparation?
Can you say FISA?
With Biden demanding the GSA funds, instead of given freely, he and his conspirators become complicit in his crimes.
This chess game is approaching checkmate. Game Theory.
Disregard any and all MSM pronouncements. Whatever they say, the opposite is true.
Here’s a roadmap to show where this is headed. Be patient, and trust that Good defeats Evil.
https://twitter.com/RattlerGator/status/1330884545147768834
Did Donald con you, hook line and sinker, in to blindly believing his pathetic poor loser excuses after losing by 7 million votes? YES
I’m with you. MSM is not a reliable source for figuring out where things are at.
2022? JHFC. The events of the last year should show everyone how long a year can be. If the fraud is allowed to stand, there will never be another fair election again.
“If the fraud is allowed to stand, there will never be another fair election again.”
Exactly right. If the Progs can steal this Trump Landslide in such a blatant manner when they’re not even in the White House,
there will never be another fair election again.(except maybe to elect RINOs like Mitt Romney or John McCain)
““He is not going anywhere.” ”
Except jail. And if he does go for another round with the GOP then LOL it’s Biden and the Dem’s dream come true. The GOP is truly dead man walking. It’s a cult of the stupid for the stupid. It has no future.
2024?
uuuhhhh no, what t-RUMP did was destroy any chance of a candidate ‘coming out of nowhere’ winning anything for the next century.
everything that whinny frat boy with the orange face does is getting carved in the granite of the historical record.
all of it.