82 Replies to “And The Budget Will Balance Itself”

    1. Yeah … heard those figures too. Bit of a discrepancy, eh?

      BTW, average payout is just under nine grand: $8,986.28

    2. None of the gargantuan level of welfare would have been necessary if we simply didn’t do a shut down. That was the big mistake. We will never get that money back and I’ll bet half of it was not needed or was received by someone who was not entitled.

      I didn’t get shit from anyone. I had to dig deeper into my retirement savings. When they run out I will either turn to crime … which pays in Canada. Or I will become a ward of the state. That’s the Canadian dream in a nutshell.

      1. J West, I am sure the Libs will skim a minimum of ten percent for their own pockets, and another ten for the party pockets, another ten for “unavoidable losses”, another ten for “mistakes”, another ten for “cost overruns”. Another 20 percent going to those who don’t need or deserve it, and the rest will just have been wasted. We should have NEVER shut down the economy, and we also need herd immunity. I’m in the “old” group, and still think it was wrong. Trudeau really is a nasty corrupt, unethical, narcissistic, morally bankrupt, ignorant and stupid, leader, if we can even apply that label. He is truly the worst PM this country has ever had the displeasure to entertain.

        1. You cannot say Smokey, the shutdown caused the recession; I do admit the economy was in a poor state before and this is just what it did not need.

      2. If you were over 65 then you would have got the $300, everyone gets it even Jimmy Pattison.

        1. Stephen – am not too certain. What if you were over 65 and still working, but the job disappeared? There are those over 65 who don’t receive either OAS or CPP because they are still working and plan to collect enhanced benefits when they reach 70.

    3. The labour force in April 2019 was 19.029 million.
      https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/190510/dq190510a-eng.htm
      How the fuck do we get 26.97 million applications processed?
      (Current Population is 37.732.)
      Is my math pooched or are there 7.941 million fraudulent pole smokers out there?
      Are dead people getting money?
      Juthtin paying his kids?
      Liberals get twice as much as everyone else?
      Maybe some brand new shiny immigrants are getting some double bubble?

      1. Buddy, the other seven million went to the welfare crowd and the druggies. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard of people turning down work, because they can get the same or more from the CERB payouts. It’s gonna be painful for them to go to work to pay it back to the Trudeau Government. I’m retired, so only got $300, which doesn’t even cover the inflation caused by the devaluing of our dollar by this stupidity, and we’re not getting raises to cover the rising costs either. We’re all gonna be a lot poorer real soon. Stocking up on rice, noodles, and oatmeal for the coming dark years.

        1. Don’t worry … CRA will likely claw it back, at your marginal rate, if you have a middle class income. How about that indexed pension? I don’t know what basket they are basing inflation numbers, but it is clear that it is not based on real inflation. Fake numbers have been sanctioned by all world banks.

  1. Any bets that Alberta will be expected to fork over another half trillion in “equalization” payments? After all, buying a majority government isn’t as cheap as it used to be. (“Oh, Jeeves? Will you sell the Lambourgini so that those layabouts down east can continue sitting on their backsides and smoke dope?”)

    1. This “equalization” bullshit has to stop!!!
      I moved from Ontario to Alberta in 75 so I would be on the right side when the war started. Still waiting. Still ready. But am not a leader.

        1. Yup, still trying to jamb a square peg into a round hole and following what each country does.

    2. Alberta should just tell the feds to eff off and they collect their own taxes – and keep them

  2. 40% of workers out of work at one point during the pandemic is pretty horrific stuff. Once the initial bounce back is over I’d say Canada will go in an Obamaesque flatline while the US under Trump will continue booming.

    1. Imagine having a government that is willing to destroy people’s lives and the economy by using a political flu. How much longer do you think it will take before we become the Venezuela of the north and start starving and freezing to death because of government policies and actions?

      1. Quite the similarities when you look at the destruction of Greece by the bankers, the population experienced the same economic destruction of their lives and liberties to bankers confiscation of everything of worth and placing puppet politicians in their places.

        1. Destruction by the bankers ….. yeah pass a little bit of what u are smoking to the rest of us.
          Too funny. Commie Greeks that are innumerate and can’t do basic economics think everyone but them are to blame for their plight!!

  3. I wonder if those incarcerated in prisons qualify and if not, why not. Our egalitarian dream state demands it. At my advanced age I’ve come to the conclusion my mother’s advice not to take any wooden nickels is no longer applicable. Surely wood if worth more than plastic.

  4. Total applications received. 26.93 million

    Total applications processed 26.97 million.

    An extra 40 k more processed than applied for – over 300 million bucks.

    And only 1/10 of 1% going to gender diverse.

    One would almost think think that gender diversity is oversold by feds and media based on this.

    1. Ward you are absolutely right on the Gender Diversity is WAY oversold by the FEDS and Media…a drop in the bucket in counts and the Government has HOW many gender diverse applications for one thing or another!! Something to think about as the government (Trudeau) and the Media are pushing Gender Diversity.

    1. I too am aged declined and grateful for the full life experiences that I have had and endured.
      This gives validity to seeing stupid things happening.

  5. Oh no worries,,, when pmBlackface sends out crews to reclaim benefits, from all those bad people that applied for the program and weren’t eligible,,, those debt numbers will come waaaay down.
    sarcoff, incase some need to be told.

  6. $80 Billion.

    The $250 Billion of this year’s deficit was just a spending spree on special interest groups.

    Few individuals ever get to go on a $250 Billion dollar spending spree for their vanity and re-election, but Canadians gave that to Justin Potato.

    Yup, I want a new country.

    1. Don’t panic. Dear Leader was at the UN yesterday giving $400million to our favorite dictators around the world, and their favorite Swiss bankers of course.

  7. How long before the reason this is unsustainable happens?
    Months?
    Weeks?

    All it takes is one government being put in receivership to start the dominos falling.
    Btw how is NFLD doing these days?

    1. They just announced the Atlantic Loop Project to give all the Maritimes access to wonderful cheap NFLD power!
      No numbers revealed.
      Of course, as usual, that is just government lies told by the media with a straight face.
      They even claimed Quebec would help! Hilarious.

      Spread the $23 Billion boondoggle among all the Maritime Province’s Liberal suckers.
      The dummies will buy it.
      And pay big time.
      Green idiots!

      1. And don’t forget that Shameless O’what’s-his-name is from there. That money he announced was for his own people, thereby purchasing his re-election.

  8. I’m told the pandemic was particularly hard on women in the work force. 51% of claimants were men. Oh well, back to the single mom’s have it harder narrative.

  9. I predict a 20/21 federal budget deficit of $500b.
    That’s money we wouldn’t have borrowed, since we have to pay it back, he borrowed for us.

    The upcoming lockdown rehearsal for climate change totalitarianism will convince them we are sheeple to be sheared then slaughtered.

    Progressivism is not liberalism, it is statism that if unchecked shall lead to collectivism and its vagaries.
    Two hobgoblins. Always in the future, never the present. Facts and science don’t matter, nor does updated data.
    “Infections” are rising, a metric of today compared to the thousands who have died, over more than six months.
    With more “infections” we should see more sick people, some hospitalized, in ICU, and dying. Is that happening?
    The surest sign of a peddled hobgoblin is conflated, incomplete, selective data and best of all – irrelevant.
    We are being played folks. If you lay down for this you can say goodbye to Canada.

    1. Shamrock: For perhaps the first time ever, I agree with you and your every word all of which I couldn’t have written better myself. A glass of good, single malt Scotch will be raised in your honour late this afternoon.

    2. Maybe our bankers can forgive our poor leadership and forgive the loans…
      Na, bankers love trapping the populous.
      Greece was a good example of bankers destroying a country.

    3. Until we make a move for a new country we will remain in this insane loop! Canada’s political system has been broken since confederation! The Liberals only have to buy out—-The St.Lawrence and Great Lake corridor and they have 200 seats!
      Covid 19 has given Justin the means to buy these votes with basically the West’s money! And the voters in the East and especially Quebec love being payed off!
      Jay Hill and hopefully all of us on Kate’s platform must start an organized push to inform our fellow Westerners! Setting up Town hall gatherings would be a start! Human nature avoids change we must give people the right messages!

  10. Remember when the Supreme Court got involved when Alberta tried to give free money to people to stop the banks from stealing their farms (during another economic catastrophe caused by the banks for that exact purpose)?

    I doubt Justin does—as far as he knows the world began when papa became PM—but the rest of us ought to.

  11. L-The purpose of turning a pandemic from being medically manageable into a panic-demic is political. The tyranny then used the panic to justify shutting down much of the economy. It literally ordered citizens to leave their jobs, to be unemployed. To be rendered dependent on that very same tyranny for food and shelter… life itself.

    The suppression of the medically relevant data was used to make those at low and very low risk feel afraid. The MSM and the Public Health bureaucracy is still doing that by suppressing that the # of positive diagnosis of those asymptomatic and so mildly symptomatic as a “second wave”. Rather than what it is, evidence of how few are at high risk and that advances in treatment have reduced the mortality rate to a fraction of what it was in March and April.

    As long form interviews with non-Marxist medical scientists and doctors keep pointing out.
    The current statistical analysis is that herd immunity can be seen from the graphs. This because the early predictions failed to take into account natural immunity, including effective T-cell immune response within the population. Likely, due to exposure to the Common-Cold which is also a Corona virus.

    There is no medical justification for shutting down the economy and life saving medical diagnosis and treatments, all of which caused more mortality and morbidity and human suffering than has the Corvid-19 (Chinsese Communist Party Virus).

    Speaking truth to power, takes courage in a Cancel Culture. Moral courage has always been more difficult than physical courage.

    Step out into the sunlight and live free or hide in your cave trembling in fear of the “Here Be Dragons” label governments have tattooed on the inside of your indoctrinated mind.

    1. Larry: I have been calling it a PLANDEMIC because that is what it is for all intent purposes. China, Russia, Iran and many more trying to take over the West Canada and the USA. So we need Trump to win in the states or the you can kiss the WEST goodbye and you know what that means. Communism-Marxist Countries Run by One World Government. WE ARE BEING CONTROLLED this is a trial run for more to come!!

  12. No surprise. Alinsky 101. Ruin a country by increasing its debt load via spending to a totally unsustainable level which presents two options…raise taxes or print money, either option is unpalatable because the end result will be the same. Poorer people.
    Anyone can see through this charlatan…it’s the people whispering in his ear that Canadians need to be concerned about.
    I’m convinced more than ever that Butts is the real PM of this country.

      1. That’s why Freeland got elevated to deputy prime idiot, and minister of debt, er, finance. She is an acolyte of Soros and his ilk, Soreass is a good take on his name though, It fits.

  13. Compare and contrast
    Alta has 87.6% of its population age 65 or less – 24% of its population claims CERB
    SK has 84.9% of its population age 65 or less – 20.4% of its population claims CERB
    Ont has 83.9 % of its population age 65 or less – 23.7% of its population claims CERB
    Que has 81.5% of its population age 65 or less – 23.4% of its population claims CERB

    Yep – Eastern dependency on western prosperity; Do they not know what their policies will do to them?
    (note I had to use older data for the number of residents over 65 – but I don’t think the results would be significantly off as the data would have had the same error conditions for all Provinces)

  14. This is how the government hides catastrophic unemployment – by giving special benefits to almost 40% of the workforce. Of course, you could ask yourself how the remaining work force can possibly continue to pay for that…

    I couldn’t believe how galactically stupid quantitative easing was, but this is a quantum leap in economic lunacy.

    1. C I, the government created the damn problem and now we are supposed to kiss ass and bite the bullet. Not f-ing likely. There are no where near enough solvent people like me to to cover one tenth of the idiots deficit and debt.

    2. Mr Ivey, You’ll believe it when prices double! Wait until the next bubble bursts. Buy Gold and Silver if you want to preserve your wealth, assuming the government hasn’t robbed it all, already.

    1. All I recieved was an extra one time $300….
      I guess that classes as great wealth increase.
      Considering inflation has really increased too.

    2. Yes, and this also may lower the unemployment rate, as they are not job-hunting. Meanwhile, small businesses can not get their former employees back-to-work.

  15. How could any of this go wrong?

    It will be very soon when this country runs out of money.

    Forget about jobs, heating homes or feeding anyone.

    The Americans and the Chinese will pick over the carcass that was Canada.

    1. I see that every time I try to buy parts or tools and the quality has fallen off the cliff terrible.
      Thank God, I was smart enough to keep my QUALITY tools.

      1. I inherited my tradesman father’s tools. He bought the best he could afford. I’ve got a lot of Snap-On sockets and wrenches. There are a few Grays and Protos in that lot as well.

        I bought most of the tools for my car well over 30 years ago, mainly Motomaster but one or two by Craftsman.

    2. This is why I do not feel sorry for Canadians who will lose everything.

      They opted for laziness, convenience and utter moral and political failure. No one should be rewarded for that by keeping their homes or pensions (something they will lose soon enough).

      The Liberals already have an exit strategy when things go pear-shaped.

  16. I know of two young layabouts living in their parents basements who have never had a job (and with no intention of getting one) and got the funds with no problem.

    And I wonder what the banks are being paid to administer the CEBA loan funds?

    1. Welcome to New Canada…Takers.
      Programmed by our government agencies and school system that they have more rights than their parents.
      Just try to get rid of me and I’ll have you thrown in jail…

    2. I was among those who were unemployed during the 1980s thanks to the policies of PET and Mulruin. I hated being on the dole, finding it dishonourable and embarrassing.

      People thought I was lazy and wasn’t trying hard enough to find a job, preferring to sit on my butt and get all that “free” money. I wanted a job, but my profession got clobbered during that time.

      I could have taken something temporary, but employers don’t like it when they hire someone who’s going to quit in a few weeks. But, whenever I did find something befitting my qualifications, I paid my share of income tax and the pogey I received was more than paid back.

  17. See?
    Absolute evidence the federal Liberals are working for Western Independence.
    If they are not,what could they have done differently?
    Buttzy Boy has a cunning plan and he explained it to Emperor Justine,this way ;
    “If we can get rid of Alberta,all our problems go away,we meet our UN promises to reduce “carbon” emissions,we will never lose another election and we will be rid of those Hillbilly critics..”
    The sooner we split,the better.

  18. Justine has been getting advice from axelrod, so he not only helped America get screwed, he’s screwing Canad up

  19. $3000 per application to roughly 1/4 of Canada’s population, $9000 per applicant. I wonder how much “CERB Harvesting” occured?

  20. Until we make a move for a new country we will remain in this insane loop! Canada’s political system has been broken since confederation! The liberals only have to buy out—–The St. Lawrence and Great Lakes corridor and they have 200 seats!

    Covid 19 has given the means to buy these votes with basically the West’s money!! And the voters in the East and especially Quebec love being payed off!

    Jay Hill and hopefully all of us on Kate’s platform must start an organized push to inform our fellow Westerners !
    Setting up town hall gatherings would be a start! Human nature avoids change , we must give people the right Message!!

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