“I I keep seeing references to 2+2 = 5. Can someone explain?”

I was wondering as well.

59 Replies to ““I I keep seeing references to 2+2 = 5. Can someone explain?””

  1. I use it as a logical absurdity and it’s meant to poke fun at something. It’s sort of like Newton’s “Fourth Law of Motion”: you can’t push on a rope.

    Yet, there will inevitably be someone who will not only pull out all stops to prove that 2 + 2 = 5 (and will insist that they’re right), they be equally as dedicated to showing that it is indeed possible to push on a rope. I know about that sort of thing because I had some of them as students and some of them as bosses.

    1. I am sure some Nouvo Nazi will state that this is a protest against Western Imperial symbolism, the characters can mean anything and heshit choses the mathematical values of the symbols. Of course, forgetting that the Imperial Theft of Arabic numbers was preceded by the Arab theft of Hindu numbers.

      1. Of course, forgetting that the Imperial Theft of Arabic numbers was preceded by the Arab theft of Hindu numbers.

        Ah, yes. I guess that means we’ll have to start using binary or–let’s be really daring–hexadecimal notation.

          1. Keep it simple: even the Idiot Left understand “on” and “off”.

            But they’ll not get this:

            “There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who don’t “


          2. Excess-3 binary coded decimal; it’s what the first calculators used. Remember the 7-sgment LCDs and goofing around trying to spell words on it such as ShELLOIL

          3. And the prize goes to Rupertslander, although why anyone would want to slander Rupert the bear is beyond me.

    2. B A, you can push on a rope if it is coiled up. You can push a coiled rope all over the place.

      1. Ah, but if it’s coiled, is it really a rope? I’m sure that there will be SJW mask debaters who may wonder about that.

        1. But you can’t Piss up a rope…Well actually it’s difficult to Piss up anything… although you can Fuck Up everything.. Guess the definition of UP may be the same as down in a Gale Wind…..

  2. That’s the equation for “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need”.

    1. Making the simple complex is the hallmark of the last 200 years. More so in the last 80 years.

  3. Technically (with a little bit of cheating), it can be done:
    2.4 + 2.4 = 4.8
    Rounding each number to the nearest whole number: 2.4 rounds down to 2, and 4.8 rounds up to 5.
    Hence 2.4 + 2.4 = 4.8 translates (rounded) to 2+2=5.
    As I said, it’s cheating. But this sort of rounding business, and something called the accumulation of tolerances, can be a very big thing in the engineering field. (Which is also being infected by the Church of Woke, so watch out.)

    1. But this sort of rounding business, and something called the accumulation of tolerances, can be a very big thing in the engineering field.

      And can also explain how the budget of a nation (post-national, of course) can balance itself. One could call it Schroedinger math.

      1. The only time rounding numbers has any value is when you are doing a personal budget and always round off to the highest number.

    2. Except rounding occurs before the answer is derived. Rounding still adds errors but not so significant as to entirely change the most significant digits.

    3. Fifteen years ago, I had a shirt that said “2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2”

      People back then laughed (okay, not really). Now it’s a political statement.

  4. My favorite response:

    “Great. Since we now both agree 2+2=5. I will give you $2. Then I will give you another $2. In exchange you give me $5. Since we are both in agreement that we both break even, you should be willing to repeat this process as many times as I want.”

  5. 2 + 2 = 4 by definition and reflects reality. 2 + 2 = 5 could also be a definition, but it does not reflect our reality. If you want to live in a world where reality is ignored, go ahead and build your own bridges using the second definition, but don’t expect me to drive on them. You may drive on them if you wish, but you won’t live very long. Reality has a way of defining the rules despite my wishes and it doesn’t give a damn about my feelings.

    1. How about interest on my investments? 2.2% less inflation of 6.5% yields how much profit?

    1. Buzzy, of course math is hard, cuz it’s racist, and whitey uses it to keep the uppity ones in line.

  6. We need to hire more of these idiots and then use their math to pay them. 2+2=1 etc. And you owe me for the bar tab last night. So that means you work today for free. Oh and 20 for the poxxed up Ho

    1. How about charging rent for hanging out in a heated government building and drinking all the coffee.

  7. The reference is from Orwell’s 1984, the goal was that the government has absolute power over the people. That they don’t just say 2+2=5 to avoid the cancel culture or getting their business destroyed by antifa but that they honestly believe that there is systematic racism, more than two sexes and Trump was the one that was too slow to respond to COVID.


    1. Yeti,
      Trump is to blame for everything, it’s the only rational explanation for the rabid woke culture of SJW’s whining and whinging. They were around before Trump was President, but the bile eruption began in November 2016.

      1. Gerry, generation after generation believe that nothing ever happened before they were born and enlightened.

    2. I was wondering how long it was going to be before someone noted that it was a 1984 reference.

  8. 2 + 2= 5, another wedge to piss on a sane society, and brought to you by those who will benefit the most from it, big business!!

    1. Works for me.

      So for every $2000+$2000 I pay on my mortgage, the bank knocks off $5000 from my principal.

      What’s not to like?


  9. If the state tells you 2+2=5 then that’s what you believe. 2+2=4 is subversive. The truth does not entitle you to resist doctrine. If the state tells you that trans-women are women, they are.

  10. The follow-up question should be “would you want to live on the 10th floor in a building designed by someone who says 2+2=5? How about living on the 5th floor in the building beside that one?”

  11. When someone tells you 2+2 = 5 and they are being serious you get to punch them in the face and call it Social Fistancing.

    1. scott,transgenderism is mental health issue, and same sex marriage is a social issue, and not the same problem. now put your bible down and be reasonable

      1. Transgenderism is reductio ad absurdum of the idea of same sex marriage. I don’t see him mentioning anything about a bible.
        Marriage has always been between a man and a woman throughout recorded history, in all cultures with all different religions. “Same sex marriage” is a prima facie absurd construct. Cohabitation is not the same as marriage. There are plenty of spinster sisters, or just widows, who live together, for example, sans sex. By granting tax credits only for “same sex marriages” the government is putting itself into the stance of enforcing such deviant behavior.
        Your attempt to impose your anti-Christian beliefs on everyone else (“put your bible down” sic) is in itself an attempt to restrict religious freedom, and would be a violation of the First Amendment if enforced by civil authorities. It in fact is what is not reasonable.

    1. Yes OWG, goernments and their experts and leaders should be red-faced embarassed at the rediculous panic they indulged in but now, they are going to brazen it out. Ssecond wave, 3rd? Nth wave, you are all going to die if you do not conform to state dictats.

      I personally think there is just one wave, it just has to run it’s not very destructive course while protecting the old and infirm. Locking up the whole population is not quarantine, it is tyrany.

  12. The thing is that there are those that will intellectualize the equation until some of those around them will agree because the “intellectual” went to school for a long time and he knows things.
    Then there are those that will agree outright because someone told them so and they have no time to check.
    And then there are those that will agree because it is the thing to do to look good on the cocktail circle.

    Guarantee this, there are those that will agree if it kills them.

    As anyone can see in current times, there is a candidate for the president of the US that sometimes does not know where he is. He is an actual, real (use the term very loosely), so called “Democratic” candidate.
    I rest my case.

  13. the “intellectual” went to school for a long time and he knows things.

    I have a degree in Mathematics (an actual B.Math) from the world’s pre-eminent mathematics university, and I know this: Kareem Carr is little more than a pretentious sophist[1].

    Of course you can play games with numerical bases, coordinate systems, and even semiotics until you produce something where the string of symbols “2 + 2 = 5” has meaning. That’s not clever (as it’s not particularly hard) and it doesn’t prove anything. It’s the sort of thing every first year math student does in their number theory classes because they think its cool and edgy.

    [1] Minored in Classical Studies. I know an empty rhetor when I see one.

  14. It’s a reference to room 101 in the Ministry of Love.


    O’Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended.

    ‘How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?’


    ‘And if the party says that it is not four but five — then how many?’