Wuhan Flu

China – 108 MILLION now back into lockdown.

But they’ve learned their lessons well: Xi’s 50 Cent Army is hard at work spreading blame America propaganda.

Ontario sees spike in new cases.

Covid Patients Testing Positive After Recovery Aren’t Infectious, Study Shows

Trump Takes ‘Historic’ Action To Move Pharmaceutical Manufacturing Out Of China, Back To U.S.

Related: A Neil Cavuto segment goes horribly wrong.

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  1. About Hydroxychloroquine
    Check this out.

    Hydroxychloroquine Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson

    If you stick with it, you will find that most of those with attached titles to their names and reject hydroxychloroquine treatment work or are paid or get honoraria or are or have been attached to the company or companies that are pushing the new drug that actually makes people so sick they can’t get anybody to volunteer for trials of it.
    On the other hand the doctors seem to be favourable to work with hydroxychloroquine.
    You can think of it as if Trump supports the trials of hydroxychloroquine it gotta be bad.

    1. Two studies in pre-print on Hydroxychloroquine showing it to be effective (at least in early stages) One study is from Korea
      Of course, these should be immediately ignored as they are not performed by researchers on Gilead’s payroll
      They are, however, preliminary. Hopefully, after proper vetting and peer review, they will be proven to be correct

      Of course, everyone knows that taking medication prescribed by a physician at the proper dose will always lead to certain death

    2. Time to salute a great medical pioneer:
      HOWARD HUGHES – Inventor of “Shelter in Place” and “Social Distancing” and the “Spruce Goose”
      (Yet the “experts” said HE was crazy)

      1. Gubmint advice: (from Zero Hedge Commenter)

        Here are the official Coronavirus guidelines:
        1. Basically, you can’t leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.
        2. Masks are useless, but maybe you have to wear one, it can save you, it is useless, but maybe it is mandatory as well.
        3. Stores are closed, except those that are open.
        4. You should not go to hospitals unless you have to go there. Same applies to doctors, you should only go there in case of emergency, provided you are not too sick.
        5. This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster.
        6. Gloves won’t help, but they can still help.
        7. Everyone needs to stay HOME, but it’s important to GO OUT.
        8. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarket, but there are many things missing when you go there in the evening, but not in the morning. Sometimes.
        9. The virus has no effect on children except those it affects.
        10. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
        11. You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms. Oh, my..
        12. In order not to get sick, you have to eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand and it’s better not to go out, well, but no…
        13. It’s better to get some fresh air, but you get looked at very wrong when you get some fresh air, and most importantly, you don’t go to parks or walk. But don’t sit down, except that you can do that now if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant (but not too old).
        14. You can’t go to retirement homes, but you have to take care of the elderly and bring food and medication.
        15. If you are sick, you can’t go out, but you can go to the pharmacy.
        16. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house, which may have been prepared by people who didn’t wear masks or gloves. But you have to have your groceries decontaminated outside for 3 hours. Pizza too?
        17. Every disturbing article or disturbing interview starts with “I don’t want to trigger panic, but…”
        18. You can’t see your older mother or grandmother, but you can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver.
        19. You can walk around with a friend but not with your family if they don’t live under the same roof.
        20. You are safe if you maintain the appropriate social distance, but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance.
        21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn’t say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
        22. The virus stays in the air – well no, or yes, maybe, especially in a closed room, in one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed. But remember, if you stay at the recommended social distance, however in certain circumstances you should maintain a greater distance, which, studies show, the virus can travel further, maybe.
        23. We count the number of deaths but we don’t know how many people are infected as we have only tested so far those who were “almost dead” to find out if that’s what they will die of…
        24. We have no treatment, except that there may be one that apparently is not dangerous unless you take too much (which is the case with all medications).
        25. We should stay locked up until the virus disappears, but it will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity, so when it circulates… but we must no longer be locked up for that?

        1. …. say assorted scientologists, ‘experts’ and multitudes of self-appointed other wise guys ….

    3. So am in process of watching the above vid that Lev posted here.

      One thing that keeps bugging me over n over on Hydroxychloroquine Since I first heard of it back in Feb……is this:
      Said drug has been around in one form or another for what 70+ years..?
      Used for numerous ailments and disease: malaria, lupus, arthritis among others.

      In ALL that time, I have NEVER Heard such outright in yer face FEAR MONGERING over a 70 yr old, well tested drug as I do nearly every other day with HCQ.! In this vid its the FDA SCREAMING CAUTION .!!! “Tests need to made now” (70 yrs later.???), due to potential Heart Rhythm Issues”..? In 70 yrs of using it on hundreds of thousands of patients worldwide, NO ONE EVER Reported heart Rhythm issues…??

      What the Fk did they do.? Just pull this Fabricated Garbage outa their ass.?? (YEP), and expect the planet to believe it cause the MSMEDIA reported the FDA saying so.?

      What a CROC. Like FAUCI-GATES et all, seems that the FDA has a few higher ups who also seek to profit from Gileads garbage IV drug or Gates’ “mandatory” poison.

      Good on you Mr President…once again showing you are the master at fencing..!!

      1. And as per usual UnGoof.

        Your so called Proof is total Garbage. They tested HCQ on its OWN…right..?? I saw Nothing in that article to lead me thinking otherwise.

        Every other study has shown it is most effective with the addition of Azithromycin and Zinc Sulphate in combination with HCQ.

        Show me a study-trial where they used all 3 drugs and still came to the conclusion said combination “had no effect”

        Put up or STFU…savy.?

        1. Maybe The troll should be banned for being an obvious liar.

          Give him the @Jack Twitter BAN, for being a typical, lying leftard fool!

      2. well… that certainly kicks WebMD to the bottom of my references.
        Zink (and potassium for the elongated QT heart rhythm) can easily be supplemented.
        As far as approval for the last 70 years, try the last 4 centuries for European use (tonic water ring a bell?), and the last few thousand
        years for South American use. WTFW this be on everyone around the worlds list of essential medications if it were so damn evil.

        1. No argument there whatsoever John.
          Quinine has been used for at a cpl centuries…that much I’m pretty sure of.

          I just get tired of that pompous smug little Leftist prick and his condescending yap. HCQ works and will be shown / proven as such in conjunction with other drugs. I’d take it in a heartbeat if need be. Anything the Left shits on has simply gotta be Good..!!

      3. The data is clear.

        Letter from Dr. Zelenko on March 23, 2020

        Since last Thursday, my team has treated approximately 350 patients in Kiryas Joel and another 150 patients in other areas of New York with the above regimen.

        Of this group and the information provided to me by affiliated medical teams, we have had ZERO deaths, ZERO hospitalizations, and ZERO intubations. In addition, I have not heard of any negative side effects other than approximately 10% of patients with temporary nausea and diarrhea.

        Pick your version of ‘clear’.

      4. If you look closely at Neil Cazzuto, you will notice a strong resemblance to Porky Pig, the cartoon character, which is fitting since Cazzuto is a cartoon unto himself.

  2. Tried to post quite a bit of news on “Reader Tips” last night but got held for moderation. Not sure what I did…maybe too many links? Apologies to Kate & Co. for causing any indigestion!
    Here is the main point I wanted to get across:
    Distributed Bio reports successful anti-body development:

  3. That’s hardly a “pike” in new cases; just drifting along around the red noise. Of course, it’s ammunition for the panic-mongers.

      1. “No one forced anyone to take drugs. ”

        With exception of human traffickers and pimps of underage girls like the mooselimbs in UK or Wetbacks smuggled in by Mexican cartels.

  4. Enough. Having successfully flattened the curve by quarantining healthy people with house arrest from a virus that had me standing a much better chance to be involved in a serious car wreck I want my damn liberties back, at least what little I had to begin with.
    Pat ourselves on the back – we were duped.
    It’s Tuesday and I see there’s already been 4 flights from Shanghai to Vancouver, so I can tell we’re all super serious about this.
    Uh huh.

    1. We weren’t “duped”. However, in many jurisdictions we are now irrationally locked into an alternate universe by politicians either frozen by the fear of media attack or just too stupid to think for themselves, or both. Most likely both.

  5. “Of course, everyone knows that taking medication prescribed by a physician at the proper dose will always lead to certain death”
    Sorry Chris,I just have to agree,everybody does know that.
    Everything we do in life,”leads to death”.
    Only in our death fearing culture of the eternally young, do people seem to believe they will live for ever.(sorry could not help myself)

    I agree with our gracious host,we were not duped.
    We agreed to the lockdown,because it made sense,it is the traditional response to plague.
    Isolation and caution work.
    But time has passed and some knowledge of this pestilence has been gained.
    The modelled pandemic numbers have not panned out.
    Therefore some of the key assumptions were wrong.
    I am watching Brazil,as that might be a real time example.
    The most endangered people seem to have been targeted,as in Old Folks Homes where ever socialized healthcare is practised.
    And the shutdown being prolonged,indicates what we suspected,there was no restart plan after the panicked stop.
    And I see a whole lot of butt covering going on,that will cost us dearly.
    Instead of admitting that we may have over reacted and dealing with where we are,I see the bureaus engaged in justifying their power use and prolonging our pain.
    As I have said,the time line of Public Health pronouncements against real world events,does not reflect well on our high priced help.
    The current BS,”No return to reality until we have a vaccine”..Oh right ‘normal’ not reality.
    Is unmitigated bull,unless a vaccine was already prepared(at the time of virus manufacture?),the odds of finding one that is effective and safe remain low,just like the cure for the common cold and the vaccine for SARS..
    So why are our fearless helpers seeking to prolong the economic misery?
    Is it because they really are clueless where the wealth they steal comes from?
    The Golden Goose is getting killed here,but our progressive comrades,otherwise known as the parasitic overload, are far too wise to read children’s tales, or heed the lessons of history.
    Of course it could be the continuation of planned death for the old.
    Before this panic ever occurred we were seeing death by doctor being pushed upon the aged and a reluctance to provide health services if death could serve.
    When running out of other peoples money,some sacrifices must be made.

    Oh well forward to our glorious future ,where all will be equal in their miserable poverty,except for those who will be more equal.

  6. China’s “50 cent army” must have a special relationship with the CBC, there is disingenuous and dumb all over their comment boards.

  7. “Ontario sees spike in new cases.”

    Bullshit, Ontario does not see a spike in data. It is a small fluctuation well within a norm for Ontario within the last two weeks. It is being blow out of proportion in order to keep pressure on Ford to keep playing Prison Province. In case anyone is interested in actually looking at data, best sources on Canadian provincial data are here:
    Right now Wuhan flu is a Kebek disease. Out of 33K active cases in the country 28K are in Kebek.

    1. About 92.5% will recover. Canada mortality rate among detected cases is 7.5%. That is 1% higher that global mortality rate.

      1. Sorry colon you are wrong it is between 0.1 and 0.2% fatality rate. Keep that fear ginned up but it will not alter the reality.

        1. The 33K figure I cited above refers to detected cases. In Canada, the death rate among detected cases is 7.5%. How many people survive this without ever being diagnosed is a separate matter. Try to keep up please.

          P.S. 99%+0.1%=99.1%.

  8. Canada does not have 33k active cases. Impossible. The problem stems from how Quebec counts recovered cases. The true number is around 11k-12k

    1. You are probably correct as pumping the numbers up keeps the fear factor up. Lies are the stock in trade these days for government and the media. We sure are getting the government we voted for, good and hard.

    2. Yes that is probably correct. In any case the vast majority of cases are in Kebek. That cancerous shithole further inflates the case count, but even without them inflating the case count the majority of cases are there. My original point was about the alleged spike in Ontario, which so far there is no evidence it is anything more than a daily fluctuation, well within the norm for past three weeks.

  9. There is only one correct and precise way to deal with a prescription drug like hydroxychloroquine, and that is to consult with your physician. Your doctor understands your personal health. Your doctor understands the potential side effects of hydroxychloroquine. Your doctor will look at both, compare it to the potential benefits, and make an informed decision based on science and study.

    That’s what Trump did.

    That’s why Trump is taking hydroxychloroquine.

    He did the exact right thing, which means…

    Trump should be held up as a role model for anyone considering taking hydroxychloroquine — or any prescription of any kind, for that matter.

    Trump’s behavior in this regard is responsible, adult, intelligent, and, most of all, medically sound.

  10. Cavuto will use his anti-hydroxychloroquine rant on a highlight reel to apply for a job at CNN (When Fredo goes to help brother Andy for a Presidential run when Biden withdraws or is kicked out) or MSNBC (replace tingles up his leg) because he’s tired of being an afternoon guy, and wants prime time, and can’t dethrone Carlson; Hannity; or Ingram.
    Mark my words.