49 Replies to “Wuhan Flu: The Supply Chain Is Not OK”

  1. Trashing supply chains didn’t seem that big a deal when tariffs were doing the trashing.

    1. Reciprocal trade practices lead either to more free trade, or less total trade. If China doesn’t open up their market, why should they be granted access to other free markets? Most of us know this as “do unto others as you would have done to you.” This is often called the golden rule.

      Now shush, the grown-ups are talking.

    2. The point of bringing supply chains home was to ensure that western nations could feed, fuel and equip themselves, come what might, so they could respond to acts of war and terror by enemies of western civilization by fighting back, and winning—which by itself would have been a deterrent to any such act of war.

      The war has begun. Food rationing, due to genuinely short supply rather than panic buying, is in your future.

      But you got a deal on your piece of iTrash. Happy?

      1. “The war has begun.”

        No it hasn’t, and autarky is going in history’s trash can where it belongs. In any event, the supply chains were already heading home. Offshoring to China has been in decline since 2008.

        1. You’re all on a short leash here. If the back and forth personal trashing doesn’t stop now, all of the comments go to the spam filter for flagging.

    3. ” If China doesn’t open up their market, why should they be granted access to other free markets?”

      So the people in freer markets (which are less free because of people like you) can buy stuff from China. Saying otherwise is like saying we should shoot our foot because China is. Also you are perpetuating the fairy tale of these trade wars being a fight for freer markets in spite of oceans of information to the contrary ie the tariffs on various other countries, imposing supply management for steel on South Korea, putting tariffs on washing machines without even trying to invoke national security as a concern.

      1. “Saying otherwise is like saying we should shoot our foot because China is.” Totally backwards. If China is shooting my foot, I reserve the right to shoot back. If China doesn’t want to get shot then they should not shoot at me. Saying I should accept being shot because I could get a better deal on buying things is why you’re treated as a lightweight by so many here (including me).

        Don’t try to tell us what we think, we already know what we think. I know that there are very few times you’ve brought a new idea to the discussion (which is why I’m writing this, I think that there is hope for you if you can learn to listen a little), and I assume you’re younger than 20 because of the zeal you bring to ideas that have repeatedly failed in the real world. Conservatism means keeping that which has worked the best. Progressivism is the idea that consistent tinkering will inevitably bring about a better result. Progressivism has lead to the premature deaths of over 100 million people in the last 120 years. That bad of a record means that us conservatives will reflexively avoid Progressive solutions because we’ve seen the high costs in the real world.

        1. “If China is shooting my foot, I reserve the right to shoot back. ”

          They’re not. Whatever tariffs they impose come down upon their own customers. Unilateral free trade is the only sensible trade policy.

          “Don’t try to tell us what we think, we already know what we think. ”

          No you don’t. You don’t even have any ideas.

          “Conservatism means keeping that which has worked the best.”

          It doesn’t even mean keeping NAFTA at this point, so there goes that idea. It also doesn’t even define what’s ‘best’. No, 1957 was not ‘best’. The paint-roller nature of your comment, going so broad so fast, only indicates your desperation and vexation.

          1. There are none so blind… enjoy your ignorance, child.

            And that’s not an age reference.

    4. Namibian beef … what could possibly go wrong?

      In a related story … it seems as though PETA has learned how to control meat consumption. $$$$$ price it out of reach. The entire beef supply chain has so priced beef out of my own personal affordability index … that it is a rare treat for the family now. Congrats to the beef growers, processors, shippers, and retailers! You’re doing PETA’s bidding for them. Personally … I welcome a shut-down and reset of the entire system. And don’t get me wrong … I am a huge fan of the US and Canada cattlemen. But I wonder if they know how the economics of unaffordable beef is gonna bite them in the ass? Yes … they will be WASTING the whole cow … just like Buffalo Bill Cody … “shot Bison for fun”

  2. Come on Kate you promised to ban the likes of UnIq. Why are you letting it to pollute your site????

    1. If you insist on banning those who disagree with you, you are no different than the left.

      1. It’s not about disagreement, but filling the pages here with low quality trash talk threads.

        The deletions will continue — en masse, if necessary — until I get this point across.

        1. I so agree.

          Besides. I guess some forget. This website is (yours) and run it the way you like.

          Thanks

  3. The same people who never tire of painting Stars of David, swastikas, and anti-Semitic slurs on the store-fronts of businesses owned by good Jewish families who have been in Canada for generations never dare paint “CHINA VIRUS” in the windows of filthy, rat-infested Chinese-owned eateries flogging cat fried rice or hole-in-the-wall vendors of toxic Chinese-made health-and-beauty products.

    Determining the reasons why are left as an exercise.

      1. Go and enjoy your bat soup. With any luck you’ll catch some disease and die.

      2. ITT, people who really need to brave a visit to the world beyond their trailer park/hamlet.

  5. As Mark Steyn says, “China will get old before it gets rich.” Travelling through China and 3 times to Hong Kong the thing that hits you just like here is the absence of children.

    1. Come drive through any American ghetto … children EVERYWHERE! litters of em. $$$$ cha Ching! Walking, talking, welfare checks. All those poor, welfare-dependent, kids are gonna pay for my Social Security! Right? Nevermind … I know we will have to import children from the third world to do the jobs our own children … just won’t do.

      1. And just who is going to repair and maintain all those machines doing the things the younger generation does not want or can’t do. It won’t be kids from a third world nation…Steve O

  6. Golden rule is good to have in your personal beliefs bedrock, and a key foundational component of our western “classic liberal” free speech, free market etc inheritance.

    Racism; be it overt or disguised as edgy anti pc talk, or anti identitarian push back is still wrong, stupid, dangerous etc.

    Two wrongs are simply two wrongs.

    I fundamentally oppose malicious ideologies: commies, nazis, jihadis.

    Majority of people are well intentioned doing their best with the cards they’ve been dealt.

    We all have flaws, doesn’t mean we can’t improve our selves & try to do better.

    Sorry for the rant.

    This Kate’s place, her rules, we are guests here.

  7. The issue is processing not meat. You can’t walk a steer into Safeway and sell it to the consumer. Someone has to turn it into steaks and burgers first. While I sympathize with the ranchers, I am reminded how little sympathy we Canadians got from them when mad cow disease what the border to Canadian cattle imports and we lacked the ability to do our own processing on this side of the border. As for the COVID19 situation, this is what both Canada and the USA gets for putting meat processing into the hands of companies that import workers from other countries to get away with low wages and poor working conditions North Americans won’t tolerate.

    1. There’s good sense in what Justin is suggesting here. Problems in the supply chain can be fixed.

  8. Another contributor to the coming waste of edible critters,health regulations..
    As farmers we would select our meat beast,fatten it through the summer and butcher it in the fall.
    Leaving it to hang for a week in the fall air.
    Best beef ever.
    But there is no way in Canada’s regulations that you can sell such meat to the general public.
    So farmers are caught between commercial meat works, government and feed realities.
    Over the years almost all small processing plants have been closed,so only a few butchers now will package your wild game meat for a fee.
    And there are a whole book of rules to prevent farmers selling cattle as “wild”.
    However there is ,as always,a bright side..You will starve but you won’t get food poisoning from your meat,except through government sanctioned processes.
    Eventually the starving citizens might,just might,realize Government is not good.
    Is not “Their Friend” and is so much less than “Helpful”..
    Or those that do not get eaten might..
    I wonder how many Canadians realize how vital the infrastructure really is.
    Or do they default to conventional modern wisdom.. Food comes from the store,water from the pipes and electricity? You just plug in man..

  9. The food supply chain is at more risk for everyday we continue this irrational fear of a virus. Folks I want to ask just how many of you think starving to death would be a better option than getting a mild case of the flu, which apparently is about 85% of cases, and recovering while keeping your freedom and your country? How many? Remember the death rate is well below 1%.

    1. There are apparently only 87 cases of WuFlu in hospital, in all of Alberta. Expect that number to rise as the Cagill folks’ TFW population are sicker than dogs. But really, where’s the flu man? Then check my post at 1:33 on Mexico.

  10. As seen on Twitter, here is a list of registered beef producers in Saskatchewan. Many other Saskatchewan towns have butchers not on this list. Click on the beef picture to get the list at the link. Our freezer is full of deer and moose otherwise I’d buy locally grown and processed beef.

    https://www.saskbeef.com/for-consumers.html

  11. Fear mongering, pestilence of the mind. People will believe anything so long as it isn’t in the scriptures.

    Amos 8:11-12 KJV
    (11)  Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
    (12)  And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBDef7-QRMM
    Strategic Fearmongering Via The Hidden Dynasty Of Education

  12. I used to regularly shoot and eat deer from Saskatchewan and Alberta. But chronic wasting disease has put an end to that. Without getting into why it spread so fast, what it has done is make it impossible for out-of-province hunters to bring home a deer. Government regulations. And months waiting for test results. Anyone eating deer from Saskatchewan is doing very risky business. Putting their life on the line.

    1. There has been zero (0) cases of CWD causing disease in humans. The “species barrier” is quite strong, it seems. Compared to actual diseases being caused on occasion by fruits, vegetables and livestock…I’m feeling pretty confident that I’m in no imminent danger of getting a prion disease from wild game.

      The human capacity for fear/panic combined with misinformation can be a powerful weapon.

      1. The species barrier is not that strong at all. CWD is thought to have come from scrapie, in sheep. Then, it jumped to elk, mule deer, white-tailed deer, moose and caribou in quick concession. Mad Cow can be picked up by humans…..CWD is rampant, spreading and evolving. Maybe it won’t jump to humans, but I’m not putting my life on the line.

        1. You’ll notice all of those species you mentioned are closely related grazing type animals when compared to humans. If zero risk from CWD over many decades scares you then you better not look at the annual disease rates in humans that come pigs, chicken, fish, cow, fruits and vegetables since they are considerably greater than zero. To each their own, of course, but statistics and risk should be better understood since it would cut down the ability to gain control based on fear, panic and mass hysteria.

          P.S. – Don’t eat brains or spinal cords from cows, pigs etc. or any parts from bats or monkeys and you’ll be ok. Mad cow was caused by humans using improper feed, if I remember correctly.

        2. Hold on. Pretty sure CWD originated in deer. If it ‘jumped’ around all those species they should be getting destroyed by it too.

          Unlike the other prion diseases, the CDW prion is excreted in saliva and urine and so on by the infected animal. The prions are close to indestructible so it’s already pretty much everywhere and I have no doubt people have already been exposed. This is probably why it spreads so much.

          1. Those other species are in trouble, in some places. I still eat wild game ( a lot ) but I’d rather not eat anything with CWD. Why it takes weeks for a test is….government. It’s also government regulations that say if I want to transport any member of the deer family into Ontario, or Manitoba (maybe other provinces) it has to be skinned, deboned, head removed, etc. It’s supposedly to stop the spread. But if I do all that, and the test comes back it’s CWD, there are no regs as to what to do with the infected carcass (and prions do occur in tissue). In other words, just a lot of useless government regs that accomplish sfa.

  14. L-Both the federal and each provincial government have a Dept. of Agriculture, a Minister of Agriculture and a bureaucracy measuring and regulating the production of food !

    Around each cabinet meeting, including being briefed by the Dept. of Health epidemiologists is a Minister of Agriculture and a Deputy Minister of Agriculture.

    If and only if, both are competent, they should have raised pertinent questions and be part of the planning for “What is deemed essential, e.i. food ! Competent planning would include the entire supply chain. It does not make any sense to make sure food stores are open, but to neglect the production and processing of same !

    When the government tries a second “shelter in place” this coming winter. The masses of unemployed, the barely surviving on part-time work, they, who have lost their family businesses, all trying to afford much higher cost food. The government may discover, they’ve lost the consent of the governed.

  15. It is surprising that Billy Bullard (R-Calf / United Stockgrowers Association) is not all over this.
    https://www.r-calfusa.com/
    This is the type of issue he has been fighting over. He is also very much anti Canadian beef.

  17. Apparently the quickest way to ruin democracy, kill freedom, destroy businesses, starve people to death and turn the world to shit is to give enormous power to health care professionals and epidemiologists.

  18. Cowboy Tex there seems upset that a boatload of beef has come from Namibia. Namibia, of course, is mostly desert, so I wouldn’t expect them to ever become a major source of ground round. Maybe the revenue generated by the aforementioned veal vessel might help them get out of the control of China, which is their largest trading partner.

    1. I’ve spent a few weeks travelling around Namibia and there is a lot of cattle there. It’s dry, but except for the Skeleton Coast and some of the Kalahari, it’s no drier than the North American prairies. In fact, it’s quite lush. But they make more money off wildlife (much of which can be sold in stores. Kudu is excellent!) than cattle. But there is a lot of cattle there.

      1. OT but were you hunting there? A friend of ours brought back 5 trophies. Kudu, Impala, Red Hartebeest, Wilebeest, and Gemsbock.

  19. Never had it but the story is Gemsbock is the tastiest big game meat on the planet; more succulent than grain-fed beef with zero wild taste.

    1. Eland is better. Mtn Rhebuck tenderloin is darn tasty too. And Zebra … wow. All the African plains game I’ve tried (about a dozen species) is very tasty. None of it was strong or tough.

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