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I think K-7 is Judith Gap, Montana
F-106’s would make this in the 1970’s.
I live in Montana and know where a few the Minuteman ICBM sites are. They are hard to miss.
Anyway, like the part about losing the UFO around 200,000 feet – that’s 40 miles high and no plane that can take off and land can do that. The old X-15 could reach that high but had to be taken aloft by another aircraft.
Many of them are along US2 going east of Shelby. Another one Is close to Valier.
There may be intelligent life out there but there is none in the crowd of grinning dunces running for the Democrat nomination.
If there was intelligent life they would ignore earth for fear of intellectual contamination.
Aliens and UFOs are what fills the hole left in people where the God they swear doesn’t exist should be. They don’t exist. They’re the product of mass hysteria and wishful thinking.
Consider that:
1. Any alien race technologically advanced enough to reach Earth at all would have conquered Earth and exterminated us millennia ago, and Popular Mechanics would not be there to waste perfectly good paper printing such rubbish.
2. I can see why previous presidents might have covered them up. President Trump is not so big on hiding things from Americans. If he hasn’t mentioned UFOs in three years, there may be nothing worth mentioning.
“Scientism” is another one.
Remember That: If Trump said anything about UFO’s the DemoRats would say he is crazy so if he thinks there are UFO’s he is not saying! If we on earth are here in the Universe what stops anyone or anything else from being HERE! You got proof NO one else is in the Universe!! I do not have proof YES or NO!
No, no, no … our Alien creators are just monitoring our progress. That’s all. I saw it on the Discovery Channel. Ancient alien landing strips were carved in the desert. And those “crystal skulls” that could ONLY have been made by alien technology. We know this for a fact.
You silly Christians, and Hale Bop comet passengers are so dumb. Humans are the spawn of a master race of aliens and chimpanzees.
/sarc.
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it would explain jessica yaniv.
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How did that T shirt go… “The end of the world is coming. Quick, chop your balls off!”
Or the follow-up of a figure under a sheet on a slab with the caption “Are we there yet?”
Or ‘Jesus is coming! Look busy.’
I love that they put red and blue lights on their space ship to let us know they’re here.
Oh They Exist ….
Here is the story of my UFO sighting.
This occurred in 1981. It was mid September, about 7pm. In Edmonton AB. It is still daylight at that time of year that far north. We were sitting on the balcony of an apartment building on the 20th floor. I was with a life-long friend, Guy Montemurro. Guy and I went to high school together. He was a couple of years older than me. He had spent five years as an Ontario Provincial Policeman. He was trained in observation as many policemen are.
We were facing North, there was a similar sized building on either side of us with about twenty to thirty meters of space between them. We were drinking cans of coke. Neither of us were alcohol drinkers and we had not smoked any pot or anything like that. We were both stone sober. In my peripheral vision I noticed an object appear to my right at about the same height as our balcony. It was emerging from between the two buildings and moving very slowly. Moving at at about the same pace as a man strolling down the street. I exclaimed “what the hell is that!” Guy looked and looked back at me briefly with jaw hanging loosely. We both stared transfixed on this object as it moved into full view.
The object was not very large I would estimate about twenty feet across maximum and about seven or eight feet in height top to bottom. We were looking at a full on side view so it was not immediately apparent that this was a saucer, but that become clear as it continued to move north and further away from us. It had a warm metallic look …. almost bronze colored with what appeared to be a translucent amber glow on the top portion where the saucer bubbled up at the top center area.
The edges around the object were not sharp, but rather, had the look of what you would see as you look down a paved roadway on a hot summer day. It was a bit distorted. I speculate some sort of field around the object. Could it be some sort of energy signature, or a force field, or perhaps an anti gravity thing … I have read and watched enough science fiction to have some clue about how to speculate on such a thing.
This object passed closely enough to us that I could have easily tossed my coke can and hit it. I held back on that urge in fear of a death ray striking back :0). I also noted that there were some dirt stains and a bit of grime on the top portion of the saucer running down in streaks. Perhaps it had accumulated dust and dirt in it’s travels and was rained on to create the streaks of dirt. Not a lot of dirt, but enough to indicate that it has been traveling in a low flight path for some time and through some dusty areas.
This little saucer was not likely the mother ship, but perhaps a scout …. taking measurements and pictures to show the folks back home on whatever planet they came from. I mused that there may be millions of other beings on another planet who will see a picture of Guy and me slack jawed idiots standing on a balcony with a look of awe on our stupid faces.
To continue, the object continued to move away from us as it crossed the South Saskatchewan river that divides the city of Edmonton. We continued to watch it for a good ten minutes as it moved leisurely on it’s way north. When it was nearly out of view and probably over the Namaio military base in North Ed, it suddenly turn bright white and shot straight up into the evening sky. We never saw it again.
We were both amazed that nothing was mentioned about this object that slowly moved right across a large city in daylight. We didn’t report it because we didn’t want to be called loons. I suspect that may be the case for any others who may have also seen this thing.
For the next twenty or so years, Guy and I often talked about this thing that we saw and compared notes on what exactly we remember seeing. I don’t think a day has gone by where I have at least given up a moment of thought to that event. It had a profound effect on us both. It is now difficult to believe that we are alone in this galaxy.
Guy died in 2004. I am now alone with this memory.
That’s my story.
My grandfather had an almost identical experience to yours while in Florida near Pensacola. He was walking on a country road and an object pretty much what you described went by. It was about the same year too. I think the US military was testing some new kind of aircraft and it failed.
UFOs.. Just another variation of the “I don’t want to believe in God, so I will pick something else (more “rational”)” religion.
I have never compiled a comprehensive list of the variations, but conspiracy theory, Environmentology, aliens, Atheism (yes, it needs to be capitalized because it’s a religion), are some of them.
Whenever you run into someone proselytizing, that’s your first clue that you are not talking science or opinion.
When fighter pilots track and record objects moving at incredible speeds and doing other things that are seemingly impossible they aren’t proselytizing and it isn’t their opinion.
Yet their observations never have a believable explanation, nor do we get believable photographs, or evidence of any sort. My explanation? 99% of it is refracted light from various moving sources.
Sorry. If you demand PROOF from Christian believers … then why don’t you demand the same from the UFO believers? One is no more “scientific” than the other.
Kenji, 200 years ago airplanes were fantasy
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html
NME – but birds weren’t, so we knew flight could be done. Where is the example of interstellar travelers that can be pointed to to say “see, it can be done!”?
“Any Alien race technologically advanced enough to reach Earth”
Would also have been intelligent enough to not destroy an eco system and intelligent creatures residing there. I don’t know if “Aliens” exist or not, but I sure would like to know. Considering the vast number of stars out there, I’m of the mind there is also a certain number of planets with life and intelligent creatures on them, whether they have reached earth or not. It sure makes more sense to me than the existence of an omnipotent God mythically ruling over us!
If you can neither prove it, nor falsify it, you are not talking about science. FYI, you are discussing your religious belief.
To think that human Mankind living on this tiny blue ball, in our tiny solar system, in our tiny Galaxy of some 200,000 Light years, which exists in a Super Cluster of Galaxies in this small part of the known universe ….. is the only intelligent life in the universe..??? That my friends is the Definition of HUBRIS personified.
Those of you poo pooing the potential existence of extra-terrestial life have your ARROGANT heads firmly jammed in your rectal Orifice. The fact that we here exist ..? is perfect proof it does so elsewhere.
That we have never made contact means squat…particularly given the distances & physics involved.
To argue otherwise is RELIGION talking.
PERIOD.
And, uhm, ah, err, uh, what is it when someone is arguing for an unfalsifiable hypothesis? What is it when someone won’t let go of something that can neither be proven, nor disproven?
What is it called, when someone inserts an argument that no one made, then attacks that weaker argument again?
I have never seen religious belief proved. At lest nothing that proves a supernatural phenomenon such as an all powerful deity who has nothing better to do than monitor a planet of idiots … AKA Earth’s population.
I have seen a flying saucer, I have never seen a god …
Well … other than Donald Fagen.
I’m a Christian, there is nothing about my faith that says there can’t also be intelligent life on other planets.
This doesn’t negate the fact that God created the universe, placed humans on the earth, created us in his own image, and then became human Himself to redeem us from our sins.
God is infinite, all powerful, all knowing. He could certainly have created multiple universes.
Your statement is a statement of belief and faith, not scientific fact. So I responded with my own beliefs and faith.
It’s also my belief that UFO’s and “aliens” may be demonic in origin. When I was younger I loved “vintage” science fiction and scary movies, like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. So I decided to check out some of the newer books in the genre, and ended up stumbling across accounts of alien abductions. They gave me the same sick to my stomach feeling I get when I encounter evil. I’ve sadly had to deal with some really evil people and situations throughout my life, and it’s given me a sort of “radar.” When I read about alien encounters, I get the feeling that I’m encountering demonic evil. For comparison, I had the same feeling about my stepfather, who I hated, and he turned out to be a pedophile (didn’t abuse me). Another time I had that feeling was when I heard Pope Francis was elected Pope. I didn’t know anything about him, but a feeling of dread and sickness washed over me. I’d say my gut was right.
The first video ofn the plane’s “sighting” on hos wea[pons system is only electronic, thaty’s why the pilot didn’t see anything./ The US waqs probably testing out some electronic warfare gadget.
Almost every person on the planet now has a hyper-connected high resolution camera in their phone that can transmit images and video for almost instant publication to the rest of the world. There is no shortage nowadays of amateur astronomers, not to mention plenty of professional ones, who can spot and track a pebble many millions of miles away. Yet, with all this expertise and technology the UFO craze seems to have died out many years ago (with perhaps a brief and profitable resurgence with the X-Files series). And no recent photos of the Loch Ness creature. There are no Sasquatch videos despite the proliferation of trail cams.
A fuzzy dot on a radar screen doesn’t do it.
Putting aside the political angle for a minute, the Russia collusion hoax illustrated a few important things: a small handful of people can throw together a story that tens of millions will fervently grab onto. Then task a few dozen high priced, highly biased and motivated attorneys with finding substantive incriminating details, and they’ll come up with absolute zilch.
I’d like to believe, but color me skeptical. Evidence should be overwhelming, but it’s just not there.
I know JDN, and I carry mine on a key chain, so it is at the ready 24/7
Try actually reading the piece.
But why did I pour this drink if not to cope with all the religious fanatics in the comments?
Did.
I tried. I was getting dizzy.
Take away:
Guvament desired to be on top of the possibility that there is alien life and in best guvament style formed beaurocracies, and reports, and committees and files, and hired security personnel, and connected with millionaires but hasn’t really studied UFOs.
Am I right?
(Actually a few parallels to climate change hysteria)
I got about half way through it. Kind of turgid reading. All you need to know is that the government program cited was funded by senator Harry Reid, who is as crooked as a dog’s hind leg. The purpose of the program was to enrich harry Reid, and a few of his cronies. No actual science was being done, but the bullshit generator was in overdrive.
Is the author a relative of yours Kate? Just curious, no answer expected.
I know there is intelligent alien life out there because they haven’t tried to contact us yet…
This!!….LOL
Sounds like an update of the Russian “flying saucers” mentioned on R.V. Jones’s “Most Secret War” in the chapter “Swords into plowshares, bombs into saucers” (starts about half way down page 639 on in my paperback). One of the “samples of debris” turned out to be an “unknown element” – because the boffins hadn’t tested for carbon in their lump of coke.
true dat….
There’s an idea whose time has come, read the article then express your opinion.
In Response to “Reminder That” who said UFO’s fill a spiritual void in atheists: God and life-beyond-earth do not have to be mutually exclusive. When I was a kid the preacher’s wife gave me a book to read called “No Man in Eden”. The premise is summed up by: “What if the rest of the universe never fell into sin? Main character is “accidentally” picked up by alien(s). Discovers a universe where people, not held down by pride, selfishness, etc. realize their full potential. Develop amazing travel technologies, colonize planets, love without reserve, live forever”.
I was pretty young when I read it so I can’t vouch for its literary quality. Interesting premise I thought.
Are we someones class project or game…makes it life interesting…we are only one life form!!
I’m pretty sure my dog can’t conceptualize what an airplane flying overhead is or how high it is, how big it is and how many other dogs it can hold but she looks up at them all the same. If she ever tells me I’m going to let Kevin know.
I can’t believe that there is evidence of aliens.
I can, however, believe that the U.S, gov’t & private interests can engage in a complex search for same, in the process convincing themselves that they are stalking something real. Believing is seeing.
I can believe that partly because I have read this book:
an edited extract from The Men Who Stare At Goats, by Jon Ronson
http://web.archive.org/web/20041030070133/www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1337954,00.html
part two
http://web.archive.org/web/20041209232859/www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,1338223,00.html
The Drake Equation is a thing.
I tend not to believe that the US government from 1945 to 1990 or so actually believed there were aliens visiting us, but I can certainly believe that they were concerned about reports of unidentified aerial phenomena that just might be foreign powers experimenting with military technology we didn’t have. It’s easy to forget that during the Cold War the belief that the Russians had incredibly powerful super-tech we didn’t know about was endemic, even in popular culture.
I don’t think it’s at all an accident that the fall of the Soviet Union and the prevalence of high-quality handheld digital recording devices have coincided with a collapse of the UFO phenomenon.
good post.
The Stares at Goats bit is still worth reading.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070113083933/http://www.jonronson.com/goats_04.html
If our German Scientist can get us to the Moon (which is freakin’ awesome), what can the Russians’ German Scientists do?
They were prolly just Lizard people dropping off Zuckerberg.
I don’t discount anything but, after all this time, it’s funny how the U in UFO seems to remain a constant.
I’ve seen UFOs. I’m certain most of them were man-made things I just wasn’t able to identify. The few I’m not sure of were probably man-made things I wasn’t able to identify, and if that’s the not the explanation the probability of me figuring out what they were is so small I don’t waste my time thinking about it.
The long and the short of it is this: There are a ton of so-called “ufo sightings” that are easily explained. There’s another cohort that are simply crackpot stuff. But then there are the ones that cannot be explained away. Some, such as the Malmstrom AFB encounters, that are very mysterious and compelling, are the kind that make the hair go up on the back of your neck. And no thinking person can really ignore them.
Have you read the article?
My take away was that the US wants you to understand it is not investigating UFOs and, if they were, they wouldn’t want you to know. So they contract out such work to various people and organizations, many still covertly (wink,wink) working for the contractor. You see, intelligence organizations, AKA spies, do not like to lie; they want plausible deniability.
BTW Does anyone know what has happened to Trudeau? He appears to have disappeared off the planet.
I think he’s in Africa getting probed.
the comments in here are hilarious , and show the level (lack) of intelligence of the posters. I wouldn’t waste my time discussing such things with these FOOLS, I will hold out for some one like ET who has a brilliant mind, and has written papers on “information” which I believe is pertinent to this topic!
I’ve read the article through, again, to see what I missed. But there’s still no there there. Here’s what the article tells us:
Lots of alphabet organizations and programs – check
Bureaucratic opacity – check
Ambiguous and contradictory government statements – check
Assurances and leaks from anonymous figures – check
Appearance of lots of public and private money – check
Sprinklings of conjecture and innuendo – check
Involvement of a prominent Democrat (in this case Harry Reid. yeah, now I’m convinced!) – check
A generous garnish of click bait – check
What do we now *know* from all this about underlying phenomena? Nothing, really. We’ve seen this before: apply the above checklist to the Russia Collusion hoax. Everything I said earlier still holds.
Comic book action flicks consume vast resources, talent and cash, yet from the few I’ve seen I’m reminded of Macbeth:
“It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.”
The UFO-hype industry reminds me of the same. I’m *not* claiming that it’s all a hoax, some accounts are quite compelling, but this appears to be a story spun entirely for click bait (hence $) and adds nothing to our knowledge.
But change my mind. Please.
try looking up the vid of the navy F-18 targeting a unidentified object, this not the first report of such things. As to the article, it just lays out what the DoD has been doing. This topic is as old as the hills
Horatio:
O day and night, but this is wondrous strange!
Hamlet:
And therefore as a stranger give it welcome.
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy
I’m with Elizondo. I don’t think about UFOs. And, if Reid was involved, what are the chances he and his Dim cronies were funneling taxpayer dollars out a back door?
Well I certainly believe in UFOs i.e. flying, or apparently flying objects that go unidentified. As for space aliens visiting earth . . .
UFOS….are flying cars created by the CIA…..to perpetuate the “alien” myth.
try looking up the vid of the navy F-18 targeting a unidentified object, this not the first report of such things. As to the article, it just lays out what the DoD has been doing. This topic is as old as the hills and the odds that there was only living creatures on earth by creation or through evolution are very slim. Thumpers get butthurt in discussions such as this because it may challenge their belief of their own uniqueness , the only creation by their god, EGOs rule their belief
Okay, I scanned the article. It sounds like it was written by the guy who used to do “UFO Report” in the 1970’s. Always came on Friday nights on KSEN Shelby.
It had me wondering, why is it that people who claim to be abducted by aliens always give a description of the end of the abduction that sounds just like someone describing coming down off of an acid trip? “I come to while watching the light move away. I felt sad.”
WHERE THE FUCK DID ALL THE TALK ABOUT RELIGION COME FROM ON THIS THREAD???
People.
So talk of religion is not allowed?
It’s Sunday
UFO’s
World gone mad
World Pandemic ratcheting up
Black Face
And your wondering how religion came out on this thread???
Kate were living in the Twilight Zone but it’s not a TV show anymore it’s our reality now…
Please Give them a break Kate
SDA is a lifeline for the majority who just read and or post for without it we may all go mad…
Kevin started it. I blame Kevin.
The UFO phenomenon is very enigmatic.
Probably the most knowledgeable human being alive in respect to the UFO phenomenon is Jacques Vallee. He has a PhD in computer science and a Master’s in astrophysics, and he has been involved with the investigations from the beginning. He worked from the earliest days with Hynek in Project Blue Book. He quickly traveled to Russia soon as the Soviet Union collapsed to confer with Russian Scientists about their apprehension of the phenomenon.
When US intelligence agencies began to distort the data and create disinformation Vallee was the first to travel to South American countries to study the Phenomenon where there was not a vast intelligence budget. Among his many books are 5 volumes of diaries that can be purchased from Amazon. It is clear that he insisted on serious scientific exploration but at the same time explored other outre explanations outside the scientific realm.
In Volume 2, Forbidden Science 2, in the entry to 25 June 1976, it says”
“My own working hypothesis is that there exists a parallel reality to which some individuals have access. Whether such access is accidental, deliberate, or ‘by invitation only’, I am not able to decide. The phenomenon provides evidence that our own world is influenced by a higher force acting from that other reality.”
After years of investigation Vallee was one of the first scientists to realize that the phenomenon was confounded not only by technology but by cosmology. (You are not supposed to be able to travel faster than the speed of light.)
He and a few other scientists began to look at other possibilities different from the extra-terrestrial hypothesis. Interesting and informed suppositions have been made.
A good introductory book to possibilities other than extra-terrestrial aliens can be found in Vallee’s book Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.
The parallel reality concept would explain mysterious apparitions going back centuries.
Makes sense!!
Here’s how it really happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVLoc6FrLi0
Re: UFO’s. Are they from another place, or from another time??
My kid was 7 years old when he had heard talk of a UFO sighting in SW Sask. He thought they were people from the future coming back to check things out. Makes a lot of sense!!
I have heard the comparison of life being on Earth to that of a tornado going through a junk yard and assembling a jumbo jet.
It simply doesn’t seem possible yet we are here.
Perhaps, and there has to be a first to everything, WE are the first of the universe’s life forms.
Why are we always the stupid inferior ones?
Never believed in them beyond weather balloon, optical illusion, etc.
No opinion, one way or another. Rational prediction would suggest life is certainly possible elsewhere. The immense vastness of the cosmos is hard to grasp. Likely precludes significant contact, even if near light speed travel is mastered. Needs an exponential methodology beyond.
Phenomena observed are more likely DARPA style oogooboogoo, impressive as they are.
How does one “believe” in UFO’s
That sentence doesn’t even make sense….”Believe”.??
If I saw something in the sky I could not identify – it would be a UFO.,,,,no.??
UnIdentified Flying Object. It wouldn’t be an ALIEN saucer or a Russian Drone or a massive BLACK swan with no Beak or visible dick.
Its just something I had no clue as to what it was.
Now to question whether UFO’s of certain types were Extra Terrestial..that’s a whole new ball game. To date no one knows…and I have to say that the preposition that the end of the Cold war is related to a major lessening of sightings of said UFO’s…Yea, that makes pretty good sense to me.
Religion…pah, nothing more than one methodology for controlling mankind. A lot like Govt. or Public Service Union ya know..??
Adios for the day..!!
steakman, I spent decades travelling all across Canada and much of that travel was done at night. The only flying thing I ever saw was a owl that bounced off my windshield one early am.
The owl I saw one night on a tree lined road had killed a rabbit and was trying like hell to gain altitude with it, so i slowed right down and gave him space to get away with his lunch.
good for you. bravo. I would do precisely the same.
Doesn’t the discovery of microbial life on Mars confirm that the galaxy can produce other life forms?
The beginning of modern UFOs and abductions basically started here.
https://qz.com/1019806/a-stressed-sleep-deprived-couple-accidentally-invented-the-modern-alien-abduction-phenomenon/
BTW, all religions exist to do one thing- they all attempt to explain what happens to a person after they die.
All the rest, like the 72 virgins heh, are bells and whistles to add to the fun.
I have not read the previous 74 comments so this may have been said already
UFO only means it is no identified,
it does not mean that it is necessarily from another planet
it could be something from another nation such as Russia, could be something a civil made in his barn and is testing,
it could be something the USA is testing but that is so secret most of heir own pilots don t even know it exists
it could be a kite, a balloon, a bird, a rock…or an angel !!…as long as it is unidentified and is , or seems to be flying, it is an UFO
all of those are UFO = Unidentified Flying Object
I cannot tell you if some of those UFO they saw are from other planets, I don t know, but I know unidentified does not automatically mean : ” from another planet”
It’s interesting to note that we mere earthlings have spacecraft that are now far past our galaxy. Voyageur I and II are now over 11 billion miles away from earth, and still communicating information back to us. We have robotic vehicles running around the surface of Mars. Drones are flying around all over the world, and are engaged in a host of complex tasks. Why is it so hard to believe that a disc shaped object, hovering above a Saskatchewan wheat field, just might be an exploratory craft from a mother ship? A mother ship that could be high tech military hardware or an an alien craft??
if there is life on other planets and if we have evidence of them visiting us are two completely different things
it is pretty much a certainty that there is life on other planets, there are billions and billions of planets, why would we be the only one with life on it?
so yes there is surely other life forms on other planets, some more advanced than us some probably still at the age of dinosaurs or microbes
now does anyone on earth have solid evidence they encountered such visitors?
no
I went to the link at popular mechanics, watched the video
its a just a blurry thing on a blurry screen, it is not very convincing.
Im delighted with stories like this, and scaREW the explanations.
this proves time and again humahhhhns dont know everything and arent as smart as they think.
I have a theory that it is in some exceptional circumstance to achieve instantaneous acceleration.
photons.
have no mass.
when the ping off an atom, by the time they are at the outer edge of the atom they are ALREADY going C,
and have ALREADY ceased accelerating.
see what I mean?
work with it . . . . .
p.s., whats the latest on crop circles?