51 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: I Miss The Snows Of Kilimanjaro”

  1. All weather is cyclical as is with all snow accumulation in an area high or low areas….so enough of climate change bullsh*t the climate is always changing. It is a known fact that people are making money off this kind of Alarmism and it isn’t me. NO MORE CARBON TAX OR CLIMATE TAX!!

  2. Actually “all of the ice will be gone between 2010 and 2020. And that is probably a conservative estimate”.

    These glaciers are very much the canaries in the coal-mine …

    Keep mining boys!

      1. People just are not very bright these days Davis. You can tell them the truth day after day and they will only believe that which they wish to. They think that their tiny life spans are the only time anything ever happened.

  3. Wait! That’s just weather. No, wait, it’s climate. Weather. Climate. Weather. Climate. Oh! I’ve got it! The current snows of Kilimanjaro in 2020 are due to EXTREME weather … like the snow which just blanketed the Iraqi desert.

  4. I wish we had a billionaire in Canada, whose hobby it was to plaster the countries with billboards, full page newspaper ads, radio and television spots, with subject matter like this.

    Vancouver Sun, David Derbyshire, David Suzuki, Man Bear Pig
    #WrongForever

    Someone like George Soros, except rational and not evil.

  5. One good thing about not having snow in Kilimanjaro, is that the ‘Chinese Bat Soup Virus’ will be killed at higher elevations and hotter weather.

    As Canada continues to get hotter sickness and disease will decrease.

    I still miss the Snow //

    ‘Captcha-‘ click all mountains and hills, Ha.

    1. “As Canada continues to get hotter sickness and disease will decrease.”

      ?

      ?????????

      like lyme disease and west nile and all manner of mosquito borne infections and disease?
      cant wait fer malaria outbreaks here in SW ontariowe . . . . .

      p.s.: it the sub-zero stuff that kills off enough of the outdoor eggs and larvae to keep the above OUT.
      unlike the TURDoo 2.0 welcoming their countrypersonkind.

      the freezing also helps farmers crop cycles. etc.

      mebbe you were /sarc on ???

      1. Actually when the Rideau canal between Kingston and Ottawa was built in the early 1800’s – post war of 1812 – many of the workers died of malaria. And when I write many, I believe it was hundreds if not a couple thousand.

    2. A sequencing and PCA of the Wuhan virus showed only a 96% similarity with the HKU2, which is pretty low.

      It’s not the “bat virus”.

      And ultimately, a lot of researchers have doubts that the Wuhan wet market is ground zero.

      The worst case is that this thing becomes endemic and joins several other perennial Coronaviruses that recur every winter (Arid, cold air keeps viral particulates airborne), but that’s still far-fetched – there are hundreds of major virus variations every year and none of them become endemic. The problem is never the lethality per infection – indeed, a more lethal virus wouldn’t be as dangerous on a large scale – but the number infected, and the ability of a disease to become viable in human populaces indefinitely, like any successful parasite. Infrastructure services like clean water and heating are more important than hospitals, really.

      Locking down cities encompassing 100 million people, however, is not simply shutting the door after the horse has bolted, it appears the Communist Party is trying to compensate for other things. The virus has long since been transmitted, so there’s no point in “quarantine”, except to treat this as any cold or flu season – you don’t shut down cities over the flu, it’s counterproductive to a populace’s overall health; the panic also overwhelms services with unnecessary patients who don’t need ICU.

      I’m more interested in the economic and financial side, given that the CCP has a convenient opportunity to unwind its books and shave its inventories and payrolls, while saving face.

  6. No snow on Kilimanjaro? Does that mean that a famous novel, and the movie adapted from it, will have to be revised?

  7. In fairness to the Vancouver Sun of it’s era, they also published this in 2009…

    https://vancouversun.com/news/community-blogs/global-warming-drivel-unveiled

    Global warming drivel unveiled.

    “Lord Monckton discussed a few of the film’s eleven inaccuracies that form some of its more outrageous claims. The film claims polar bears are drowning due to disappearing ice. But the study Mr. Gore cites clearly shows the polar bears died because of a storm. In fact, the polar bear population is increasing. The film also claims the snows on Mt. Kilimanjaro are disappearing because of global warming. The court’s expert admitted this was incorrect. In fact, the glacier on Mt. Kilimanjaro has been receding since the end of the Little Ice Age in 1880. When Ernest Hemingway wrote, “The Snows of Kilimanjaro” in 1936, the mountain had already lost half its glacial surface area.”

  8. BTW, what was the “scientific source” for that claim. I think it was a backpacker’s magazine, then they did a “study.”
    Remember when they’re wrong, it was only suggested. Unless caught out, we have consensus with ironclad data of course.

  9. soooooo reference to, but no link to a ‘shopped headline?
    ?
    ????????
    methinks Im in that grey area of reading too many at the same time not enough news stories . . .
    (thimk aboudit)

    1. When Prinz Dummkopf sings it, that line would be “I missed my brains here in Aaaafrica….”

    1. good link. I have a printout now for the next alarmist gets in my face. check it out people.
      BE SKEPTICAL about E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G.
      except bridges in NY NY and timeshare condos in FL . . . . .

      1. “Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me eight or more times, shame on me.” — Amy Wong, ‘Futurama’

    2. Our intellectual betters…a nasty, psychotic lot.

      ”My three goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

      ”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor

      ”Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC

      ”It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace

      ”We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

      ”No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.” Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment

      ”The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” Emeritus Professor Daniel Botkin

      ”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program

      ”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” Professor Maurice King.

      ”I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. it played an important part in balancing ecosystems.” John Davis, Editor of Earth First! Journal

  10. Newspaper quotes Lonnie Thompson at Ohio State. He was the 2002 winner of the Heineken Prize.
    Wiki: “2002: Thompson was awarded the Dr A.H. Heineken Prize for Environmental Sciences by the Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences.”
    And they all drank to that. Hic, hic !

  11. This false prophet, Lonnie Thompson, also appeared in Time magazine 2001.08.20: “The Iceman – As the globe warms, Lonnie Thompson is climbing the the world’s highest peaks to retrieve ancient ice before it melts away.”

  12. Polar Bears? Drowning ?

    Can someone explain why their scientific name is “Ursus Marinus”? If they also lived in the Antarctic, would they be “bipolar bears”?

    Regarding the “Snows of Kilimanjaro”:

    Snow is just fluffy precipitation of water vapour, mostly sourced from the oceans.

    SO, if it stops snowing at high altitudes and latitudes, there must be less atmospheric water vapour to condense out at any given time and place. What would cause less water vapour to be present in the atmosphere?

    Steady!! Wait for it!!. Get it? Got it? GOOD!

    Ice Ages are DRY times. They also have onset periods of a Century or less and “release” times of a thousand years and often much longer. See also: planetary albedo, etc.

    The miles-thick ice that scraped out the Great Lakes, Manhattan, large chunks of the U.S. Pacific north-west, thousands of Canadian lakes, most of the Siberian lakes, etc, was not the result of a couple of weeks of heavy snowfall. The ice sheets formed out of the freezing of the arctic sea water. Ice FLOATS because it is LESS dense than water. If, like almost every other material undergoing the phase change from liquid to solid, it became MORE dense and SANK, the planet would have been a perpetually frozen snowball with the occasional volcano, (like Antarctica), aeons ago. By floating, the ice actually acts as an insulator above the oceans. Because it expands, the expansion is also lateral, thus, it “creeps”. As the “big freeze” continues, producing more ice, it just shoves the older ice away from the poles. As the ice formed and “migrated, sea levels fell steadily. LOTS of other stuff happened because, as the water froze, land-bridges opened up and vegetation and animal life was seriously hammered. Living in an Ice Age is challenging, to say the least.

    Was the “trigger” for an Ice Age a catastrophic meteor or comet strike? Possibly. The fact that the deep-frozen remains of woolly mammoths have been found with food in their mouths indicate that something “big” happened, and suddenly. The additional fact that the mammoth carcasses are mostly intact, and not random bones scattered about, also indicates that whatever “got” them, also got all the scavengers, large and small, at the same time.

  13. put a trayn of ice cubes in the freezer of your fridge, and look at them a month later, they will have Kilimanjeroed

  14. Kilimanjaro has been heavily logged in the last 20 years it changes the way the air flows over the mountain and has increased the melting of ice and snow. Man made indeed

  15. As we speak, the temperature in Thomsen River, NWT is -43°C. The cold spot in Canada. Does snow melt at -43°C??

    I don’t think so. Just look at some of the cold temperatures we’ve had in the North this year. Just look at 20 year averages, the temps in the Arctic this year were well below averages. So where is the cold air coming from??

    As for Mount Kilimanjaro, it’s such a huge mountain it creates it’s own climate. Sooner or later, it will melt, then later on, it will snow. It’s just what it does!!

  16. Oh, and at high altitudes, there is a process called “Sublimation.

    In this process, the snow, does not “melt”, it goes straight to its “gas” phase; NO runoff, just low-temperature evaporation, because of the lower atmospheric pressure..

    This is related to the popular SF plot-line of “spacing” someone. Get tossed into the vacuum of deep space without a decent suit and life-support rig, and you will simultaneously “boil”, rupture and freeze. The “boiling” bit is due to the massive pressure disparity between say, one atmosphere (roughly 15 PSI / 101KPa inside your body) and ZERO PSI in space. Instantaneous freeze-drying is another way of describing it..

  17. The snowcap is about 11 000 years old.
    Kilimanjaro in 1909
    https://ecohealth.wisc.edu/images/stories/B16_sci1.jpg

    The “snows” have shrunk 80% since them
    A google map from this year: https://tinyurl.com/vncp964

    Instead of yoicking it up over a Postmedia headline:

    https://www.americanscientist.org/article/the-shrinking-glaciers-of-kilimanjaro-can-global-warming-be-blamed
    quote: Kilimanjaro, a trio of volcanic cones that penetrate high into the cold upper troposphere, has gained and lost ice through processes that bear only indirect connections, if any, to recent trends in global climate.

    But then some don’t think the snowcap is decreasing.

    1. How “dormant” are the THREE volcanoes that are integral with the Kilimanjaro structure?

      The peak is 5,895 meters (approx. 19668 feet) above sea level.

      “Tree Line” varies with latitude: In North America alone, it varies from 6,000 ft. (Glacier National Park), to 12,000 ft. in Colorado, So, one could not expect a lot of luxurious forest high on the slopes of Kilimanjaro.

      The mountain is a LONG way from moisture-laden ocean breezes. Not only that, but it sticks up out of a very large plateau which is, itself, a thousand metres (3280 ft.) above sea level.

      Just for fun;, in terms of actual precipitation, Antarctica is one of the driest places on the planet.

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