I Want A New Country

Shiny Pony Western Separatism 112 Comments

Yes, it would create some problems. But it would solve the big one.

Alberta MPs launched a counter attack on Thursday after a report surfaced Liberal MPs have been pleading with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to give the thumbs down to a new oil sands project.
 
The Teck Frontier mine in northern Alberta would create thousands of jobs and add hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil into the province’s economy.
 
Alberta MPs launched a counter attack on Thursday after a report surfaced Liberal MPs have been pleading with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to give the thumbs down to a new oil sands project.

Whatcha waiting for, Justin? Go for it.

Oh, and check the replies to this Andrew Coyne tweet.

Here’s a teaser.

112 Replies to “I Want A New Country”

  1. What are Albertans going to do in response if Trudeau cancels this thing?

    Hold another rally? Vote Conservative harder?

    Lol.

      1. MM, and it is stupid like yours that alienates a lot of voters, take your religious based BS and shove it were the sun don’t shine, this discussion is not about gays, and your comment serves NO positive purpose. I get sick and tired of your level of stupidity

        2. Alberta’s elected representatives have the WRONG priorities on all levels and so far out of touch with everyone everyday. SERIOUSLY!

    3. Rallies and voting has fixed nothing. Throwing all the socialist liberals out of Canada, that means 65% of the population and all welfare immigrants, or getting the hell out yourselves are the only options. Canadians are stupid so I doubt you or anyone else will do a damn thing.

        1. Lorenzo, there are altogether way too many Communists in British Columbia to add to an Albexit or a Prairiexit. The new country would be run by the Communist Party of Victoria. The result would be the same as the status quo – starvation and misery. Northern B.C., if separated from the Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island, and the Okanagan Valley, would fit in well with a new prairie-based free republic.

          2. In a way, BC is a microcosm of Canada, where a huge urban population runs over a smaller outlying population. If AB did split, the BC interior would not be far behind, I believe.

          3. “the Lower Mainland, Vancouver Island, and the Okanagan Valley” will be renamed East China. No need for a Communist Party of Victoria, China will supply one.

  3. Prinz Dummkopf will do what Senator Keith Davie told his father: “Screw the west, we’ll take the rest.” And eastern Canada will applaud him for it or, at least, those regions that count for the Liberals, namely the 416 and 905 regions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3ENX3aHlqU

    1. BA, they screwed the east for decades and now they are screwing the west. The economic history is littered with liberals screwing up industry throughout the country Alberta has just been the current whipping boy, for the past 40 to 50 years. Does anyone living in Ontario think that the liberals did a damn thing to keep industry alive, if they do they weren’t living there. Quebec is the only province that is a burden on Canada, QUEBEC, SPONGES AND LEECHES.

  6. It’s an abusive exploitative relationship, and the time to leave is definitely here.

    1. , that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

      When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”

  7. “Trudeau is expending too much political capital on a province that quite frankly is looking for a boatload of handouts from government”

    I thought he was talking about Quebec. All Alberta wants is for Trudeau to get the f*ck out of the way.

    1. SFR. exactly.

      Trudeau and the Toronto media will help create winning conditions for an ABExit vote.

      At some point Torontonians will realize “holy crap batman, if Alberta leaves, who will pay the $20 billion in equalization?”

      1. Kenney? Uhhh, Mister Kenney? Anyone seen him?

        PAGING JASON KENNEY! Your Province wants you to you know, like, GOVERN!

        Trudeau: “We the federal Liberals have decided that the Teck Frontier mine shall not be approved – You Shall Not Pass!”

        Kenney: “Notwithstanding…”

        “HEY! You can’t USE that!” “Why not? – Quebec did.”

        Anybody seen the guy around?

      2. They are stupid. Who’s been paying the freight on Equalization for decades? There was a time not too long ago that folks were breaking doors down out here, to do business with Alberta. Where are they today? Putting us out of business, ’cause Globble Warmenting. Yeah, right. A friggin’ lie!
        It was warmer when Vikings waded ashore at L’Anse aux Meadows NFLD and Greenland was settled, then it got cold. It’s still cold: http://www.jpattitude.com/IceCore/graph3.htm

  9. The quickest (and only) path to get the Teck Frontier project going is that Trudeau blocks approval.

    WEXIT

  10. “True-Dope-ia” cant countenence the success of others…for them it is a zero sum game.
    Someone has to lose to make them feel better about themselves.

    It sure as hell isn’t about building up others, and letting them be self sufficient.
    No, they find that thought abhorent and frightening.
    This government enjoys making its citizens supplicants to federal largesse.

    These twats can drag out a pipeline or oil developement for 6-8 years; but in miserly fashion will under
    fund the medical system to get to you to “choose” Medical Assisted Murder of Patients via their latest
    farcical “consultation” in two flippin weeks!

    Welcome to the new dystopian future! Fire the lot of them…

    Cheers

    Hans Rupprecht – Commander in Chief
    Army Group “True North”
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army

  11. The fact that a bunch of dickheads from outside of the province, elected by people from outside of the province, many who have probably never set foot there, get to say what resources you get to use is Central Planning Sodomy.

    Can you imagine Blackie the Gay Pirate and his Ship of Fools blocking a K-bec mine?

  12. Alberta has to take concrete steps to be taken seriously. Otherwise the label of whiners is justified. At a minimum pull out of CPP and replace the RCMP. Leadership is required and I guess we will see if that exists.

  13. QUESTION, WHY DOES ALBERTA NOT JUST IGNORE THE DAMN FEDS AND BUILT WHTEVER THEY WANT TO BUILD, JUST HOW WILL THE GOVERNMENT STOP THEM? It is time to just say no to Ottawa and start your own police force, and arm them extremely well. Remove the RCMP and start running your own show.

    1. Exactly. Their rules only apply if you let them. And yes. You need your own police force. The RCMP are so compromised it isn’t even funny.

      1. Hmmmm… High River. That’s in Alberta, isn’t it?

        And y’know, I’ve always liked it down around the Lethbridge area. If SaskAberta was to shed some of the stupid gun laws the Fed’s keep dropping on our necks, or even better, declare a “Second Amendment” to your own constitution after you separate, SaskAberta would be a WHOLE LOT easier to move-to from Canada, than the ‘States would be.

        Maybe…

    2. What OWG said.

      Pipelines are one thing and arguably under federal “control”. Resource extraction is explicitly via the constitution a provincial responsibility. There is no cross-boundary environmental interest in this. Even if you argued about the validity of pollution and emissions and whatnot, none of it would exceed Alberta’s boundaries without being diluted below the point of detection.

      There should be zero federal involvement on this file. Zero.

        1. I don’t get how that tracks. The only provinces that don’t are Nfld and PEI.

          1. Marc, just who do we sell to the most? Oil can be sent to the biggest market directly from Alberta as it has been for a long time now.

        1. But who will protect us from the police if need be?
          The Gestapo, Stasi, and KGB (including all predecessors) were “police”.

  14. If the Liberals scuttle this project then you have to wonder what’s next for the West.

    Have we reached a tipping point?

    People in the west are going to have to make it absolutely clear to their provincial governments that they want to end this one-sided Confederation once and for all. No turning back. No Premiers meetings. No trips to Ottawa. No more pretending that Confederation works for all provinces and territories. It is time to put plan ‘WEXIT’ in motion.

  15. To an outsider it seems like the heart of the problem is Quebec. Rather than Alberta and other provinces leaving, expel Quebec. An outsiders view…

    2. No, it’s Ontario. Quebec is just the excuse Ontario uses to do the evil shit that they do. The Liberal base constituency is Ontario.
      Here is a map for you. It’s Ontario and the Maritimes. Quebec is just a whore province full of whores.
      https://tinyurl.com/ta5vbbd

      1. “We can all join the Bloc Quebecois”

        That’s just stupid.
        The Bloc is a Federal Party. The Parti Québécois is the Provincial Party which needs to put the sovereignty question to Quebec voters if separation of Quebec from Canada is ever going to happen.

        The BLOC Quebecois(a Federal Party) exists only to make sure the RoC keeps raping Alberta to pay their Quebec whores.
        They can’t do that anymore if Quebec separates. When the whores of Quebec vote Bloc, they’re literally saying, “We LOVE Canada!”

        I can’t believe so many political Know-Nothings feel they have to come onto blogs and display their utter ignorance.
        And to think that these Dumbasses vote.

  16. Don’t you just love the fact that instead of doing the best thing for Alberta and the entire country, they want to do the best thing for them, politically? There’s nothing in it for the Liberals to “give” Alberta anything. People vote for these cads?

    1. One of the failings of the Conservative campaign in 2015 is that the party underestimated just how stupid Canadian voters can be. It thought that Prinz Dummkopf’s shortcomings would be obvious and that there was no reason to emphasize it.

      I’m reminded of what H. L. Mencken said about his fellow countrymen:

      “No one in this world, so far as I know–and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me–has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

    2. Ever lived in Toronto, or Montreal? Actually, it’s endemic to Ontario, it depends where you are in Quebec. The Maritimes, well they know everyone, so you kinda stick out like a sore thumb and they let you know it. I’ve been everywhere in this country. Everywhere. Speaking from experience. I got asked once in an Ontario town (I was working there) “What’s a guy form Albrerrrrrta doing working here?” “I was born here and I don’t need a passport to be here”.

      2. What does Morneau know about the oil business? He probably couldn’t tell the difference between a well-head and a distillation column and likely has even less idea how the industry works.

        Then again, neither do his cabinet colleagues.

  17. The way to leave has been open to us in the West by the Clarity Act!!!! We need a organized Referendum ——with a clear QUESTION of intent!!! But in my opinion this would involve multiple meetings in each province! The main concern of citizens will be that they will lose something by separation!!!! The benefits must be explained to all and especially our First Nation people!!! We could make a Western Canada country the best place in the World with a lot of HARD WORK!!!!!
    At least the work would be for ourselves for a change!

    1. I’m offering a road map out but it will take work!? Who’s on board—real names!

  18. The situation is exactly why the federal government should not be allowed in provincial natural resource decisions : The federal government is crippling Alberta’s resource economy to get votes in Quebec and Toronto. That’s why the constitution left those decisions to the provinces – to prevent Ottawa from using its power to cripple one region at the behest of another region for political power.

    It’s an absolute lie that it’s about CO2 and climate change because the federal Liberal government had no reviews or objections to huge CO2 emitting cement plant in Quebec (The cement plant will be Quebec’s largest industrial emitter of greenhouse gases when it comes on stream, producing at least 1.7 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent a year – globe and mail). Neither did they have any concerns over a massive new offshore oil development for Newfoundland (Chinese oil company gets go-ahead for exploration drilling in Flemish Pass Basin – CBC, Dec 18, 2019).

    What the federal Liberal Party of Canada is doing to Alberta is malicious interference designed to cripple Alberta’s economy. Canada, by re-electing Trudeau, has shown its alliance with the Liberal’s planned destruction of Alberta’s economy.

    1. They are doing the exact same thing in northern New Brunswick with a $1.5 Billion iron ore plant.
      The joie de vivre part of the province which desperately needs jobs.

      For the unilingual troglodytes, the actual NB definition for joie de vivre is “you pay while we play”.
      The actual birthplace for the Liberal Party’s Welcome to the Welfare Plantation(where you can never leave).

      It used to be hilarious watching the Liberals tinker with the Employment Insurance each election as their corruption completely engulfed the Atlantic Provinces.

      You guys think you have it bad, just think if Alberta was 30 percent French, in a phony bilingual province in a phony bilingual country; with the added attraction of being completely owned by one fantastically wealthy and powerful family.

      Who just happen to own all the Media.
      One of the tiny joys is seeing how petrified, absolutely petrified the CBC is of said family.
      Typical of the embarrassing, corrupt Canadian Media.

      To say nothing of the politicians.
      Current Premier is ex-family employee.

      Can you imagine giving the Liberal Party open access to the Treasury with only their own owned Media to cover them?
      Oh wait a minute…….

      So just look to New Brunswick for what’s coming next.

      Did I mention how the Liberals solved unemployment and the gender gap?
      Check this out.

      They hired way more public servants than they needed.
      And paid them way more than the going rate.
      All women of course.

      So, the Liberal Social Engineering essentially tried to increase the wealth of the family by giving the kids a raise in allowance.
      Results?

      One in five workers in NB is a public servant with way above market pay and perks.(wealthy family second largest employer in province)
      Paid for by a population in which fully half make less than $30,000 year.(who also have no pensions)
      With a population of 750,000 and a debt of $25 Billion(including NBPower) and rising.
      In the NIMBY capitol of the world.
      With an abundance of Climate Alarmists.
      And #$%^*(()@! Liberals.
      Cheered on by the I can’t survive without government crowd.

      So, if at this point you are thinking about a mechanism that converts rotational motion to linear motion, and a torque to a linear force, you would be right.
      We are screwed.
      And getting screweder.

      If the West doesn’t leave, THEY will be freezing in the dark!
      Save yourselves.

      The Liberal Party is trading your First World standard of living straight up to China for their Third World standard of living.
      And their place in the New World Order.

      Globalism, Communism, Liberalism.
      I can’t see the difference can you?

    2. 100% bang on.
      This Anti Western – Anti Alberta BS from Eastern LIBERAL FILTH…..is not new to Albertans…particularly those of us that have been here since the mid ’70’s.

      There is a genetic hatred within the Trudeau Family against Alberta. And we’ve been fighting this battle for over 40 years now. Long Long overdue to END it.

      As far as TECK is concerned. MR PREMIER, should these Bastards say NO..??

      Then you ABSOLUTELY MUST invoke the Notwithstanding CLAUSE. FAILURE TO DO SO Mr Premier will herald the END of your precious UCP Government.

      ….and THAT you can to take to the bank.

  19. You see Moe using not withstanding? Kenney? You see anyone kicking the RCMP out? Turfing CPP? Turfing CRA? No you say?

    You think they want a new country, or the one they got.

    1. It doesn’t take an act of god to get rid of the RCMP in provincial or municipal policing. Its just a contract! Just end it. Two provinces already have provincial police…. and one of the them is Quebec. Could you ever see Quebec having the Feds run their police? Never happen. Having their own police is a mark of their own sovereignty.

  20. Re Captain Dan: My view is that anyone who voted Liberal or NDP in the last election is looking for government to solve their problems by spending money on them.
    People who voted PPC see overreaching government as the problem. I’m not sure where the CPC itself stands, but a good number of their voters are for less government spending, and less reliance on the government.

    “Ask not what your country can do for you – ask what you can do for your country,” JFK

    If the country continues calling me stupid via the CBC and saying my work is offensive; then it’s time for me to leave.

  21. Suncor took a significant write down on Fort Hills this week (which they run pretty efficiently). All these projects are dependent on basic economics.

    Oil production is up world wide and even if approved I doubt Frontier will be built at these prices or forward pricing.

    But maybe that’s not the point.

    1. As I think about it, they are stuck in their own trap. They could approve a hundred mines that won’t be built—business Just doesn’t run like that— and we would shut up.

      They can’t approve a single one or they will lose the shine on their BS enviro-virtue armor—some European teenage enviro-fascist will be angry/sadz.

      When they refuse the mine AB gets louder (if that’s possible) and makes them have to actually work for unity (which they won’t).

      All they can think of is giving us a lollie (some debt financed hush money) and a pat on the head. That’s it.

      What a terrible way to run a country.

  22. Until you are willing to ditch the Saskatchewan “but really Canada” Party, you get to suck it and suffer.

  23. Blockade projects that have an opportunity to generate actual profits and sustainable jobs and replace them with welfare handouts from a debt-addled Federal government. What could possibly go wrong?

  24. Yup Jason Kenney is a “nationalist”, Jason said he was a nationalist. Please tell us Jason, how can one be a nationalist, when the first thing the moron puppet uttered, after being elected in 2015, by like morons from Toronto was, Uh Canada ithz the first potht nation thtate. The puppet is doing what its handlers have mandated it to do Jason, either nut up, for a good cause, Alberta, and back separation from this nightmare of future communism, or go back to Ottawa.

    1. Alberta supplies 100% of western Canada (especially BC), 100% of Ontario’s petroleum products and 40% of Quebec’s. And a goodly chunk of land locked, Washington State. Mostly out of Edmonton refineries. The feds are shooting themselves in the foot on Globble Warmington. They are aided by a stupid, brain dead populace drunk on Green, mostly living in cities.

  26. On “aid” to Alberta, as to say it in prose, shove it up your collective “Liberal” asses, Alberta does not need your “aid”, what Alberta needs is for you to get the hell out of the way.

    As for: Univrsle Replying to
    @acoyne
    Nothing will mollify them, nothing will please them, nothing will every be appreciated. Trudeau is expending too much political capital on a province that quite frankly is looking for a boatload of handouts from government…..and they’ve convinced themselves they are owed it.

    Hey Univrsle, Alberta does not need your alms, does not need you warm and fuzzy nothingness, what Alberta needs if for you and those like you to get the hell out of the way and disappear. We can take care of business, you on the other hand can fade away and be happy with yourself.

    On future price of oil:
    Harry P
    @acoyne
    Isn’t this the real story? The underlying truth about Alberta’s oil industry? New projects are becoming less and less viable given the current and projected market price for oil. #cdnpoli

    Harry, it’s not your call, it’s not you money, it’s not for you to decide. Once a guy said, “Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way”, pick one, I would suggest to get the hell out of the way.

    Hell the thoughts of these people could make one to spend a lot of time on the toilet.
    Those (heh) people should get out of their stinking government offices and get a real job, see how that would work out for them with their idiotic attitudes.

    It has become normal for a federal government of Canada to completely destroy economy and wellbeing of its citizens in the province of Alberta.
    This is what “Liberals” do, destruction of Alberta.

  27. Slightly off topic. There is a rumour circulating that Moron-o plans to increase the capital gains tax to 75 per cent in the upcoming budget.
    If true, and comes to pass, all foreign investment will leave. No one will invest just to have Turdo confiscate the lion’s share. This would hurt the West most of all.

    1. This would hurt the West most of all.

      As I’ve often said here on SDA, I’m convinced that Ottawa is waging war against Alberta as it sees us in the west as renegades, rebels, and upstarts who need to be put in their place now and forever.

  28. Reading some of the replies to the Coyne tweet, I just felt increasingly sad and angry. It becomes less of a mystery why the Libs/globalists/whatever have such a stranglehold on eastern/Canadian politics: people really are that ignorant/stupid.

    People believe resource extraction–especially of hydrocarbons–is evil. People believe that this project will immeasurably damage the world/Canada’s/the local environment. People believe they can live and function and survive without hydrocarbons in their lives. People believe that Alberta is greedy and ungrateful and WANTS government handouts.

    “How stupid are you?” used to be a rhetorical question. I guess it still is, in that you can’t really expect an accurate or helpful answer from people that stupid.

    1. It becomes less of a mystery why the Libs/globalists/whatever have such a stranglehold on eastern/Canadian politics: people really are that ignorant/stupid.

      I came to the same conclusion about Lotusland when I lived there 40 years ago.

      They not only believe themselves to be superior to westerners, but can’t comprehend why we, the deplorables, aren’t grateful to them for being so.

      1. They still fill up their gas/diesel/jet fuel – especially jet fuel, imported from Alberta. Every day. Haven’t seen an electric plane yet. There’s an electric Beaver out but I would not fly in it, especially where it flies, the west coast. They still don’t drive nat gas cars. The way they drive, they shouldn’t.

  29. Look. Nothing is going to change unless and until ordinary Westerners push themselves away from their keyboards, get up off their arses and engage in massive, sustained civil disobedience.

    1. Here is a civil disobedience idea : Use junky old vehicles to blockade the TransCanada highway, symbolizing how the rest of Canada is blockading Alberta’s ability to trade freely. The blockade doesn’t have to be in Alberta, it can move from place to place. Preferably inconveniencing those areas most responsible for reelecting the Trudeau government.

      Anyone else have an idea?

      1. Start organizing to set up Bloc riding associations in the western provinces.
        Think of the disruption you can cause for them if there where more Bloc riding associations outside of Quebec than inside Quebec.
        Think of how much more trouble can be created if they refuse to allow Canadians membership in a federal party.

      2. Vehicles are good, LC, but for a lot of reasons, the best thing to block highways with is people. Ordinary, hard-working folks – the victims themselves.

        1. Are you sure drivers from Toronto and Quebec wouldn’t happily drive over protesters from Alberta and Saskatchewan? I get the feeling they think of prairie people as subhuman. /s

          I said vehicles because they are harder to clear, especially if you flatten the tires after parking. Old junkers are cheap, plentiful and disposable. A few dozen junkers can be moved into place, or multiple places, quickly, effectively and put into predetermined chokepoints.

          1. “Are you sure drivers from Toronto and Quebec wouldn’t happily drive over protesters from Alberta and Saskatchewan? I get the feeling they think of prairie people as subhuman. ”

            and….

            “I said vehicles because they are harder to clear, especially if you flatten the tires after parking.”

            Here’s the point. Nobody in any part of this country will believe there is a real problem in Alberta until Albertans start acting like there is. Everything up to this point has been pissing and moaning and idle threats.

            If you block the trans-Canada with people and their vehicles, that’s a headline that will say “angry protesters”. If you drop junkers and piss off, that headline will likely be “vandalism”.

            The images of decent, ordinary, hardworking folks protesting is something that resonates with the public…and terrifies politicians. If the public sees folks like themselves resorting to protest, it instinctively knows that things must be pretty bad.

            I have posted here before that the greatest tool in politicians’ toolboxes is the certainty that Canadians may piss, whine, and moan, but that they are too craven to get up off their arses and engage in the civil disobedience that the situations call for. And by enduring the continuous and escalating indignities heaped on them over the past five years, Albertans have demonstrated that they are made of exactly the same stuff as their eastern brethren.

        2. Naturally, the civil disobedience protest movement should consider Frontier Rebellion as their name if it is inspired by the Liberal Party government cancelling the Teck Frontier mine.

        3. I hear what you’re saying Jamie but the Canadian media will not fairly cover these types of protesters. They will call them racists and then pretend they don’t exist. See what happened with the long haul truckers who drove to Ottawa . Only protests consistent with liberal progressive ideology gets sympathetic treatment from the Canadian media.

          Creating hours and hours of gridlock at multiple point over an extended period of time near large urban centers in central Canada and on national highways will draw far more attention. Can go on for months with very little manpower or time commitment needed.

          1. ” hear what you’re saying Jamie but the Canadian media will not fairly cover these types of protesters. ”

            Yeah, the Trawna media (predictably) tried the tarnishing crap here when we did the OLA blockades. But the public saw through it. Even Liberal city-slickers can’t be convinced that Grandpas and Grandmas with their grand-kids are “rural militants”.

            There’s a thousand excuses for inactivity, and I’ve heard them all…and the prediction of “unfair press” is one of them. What you have to realize is, that when it comes to sustained escalating actions, as far as initial press coverage is concerned, “it’s all good”. What you’re aiming for is disruption; make it to big to ignore and they’ll have to cover it.

            Set the stage: a week or two in advance send out press releases saying that there will be a series of escalating actions. Then get at it.

            You can expect intimidation from the cops, and support from any politician is unlikely. But you’ve got to leave your home in the morning saying to yourself, “I am prepared to get arrested today.” And if you’re not, then your commitment to your cause is less than firm.

  30. I’ve said if before. Separate at the MB/ON border and build the pipeline from AB to the port of Churchill MB and get the product to international markets.

    1. Toll booths at every border crossing into MB/SK/AB, including the international border. If a vehicle has a Quebec or Ontario plate, charge a $10 entrance fee. All others pass for free.

    2. “Separate at the MB/ON border and build the pipeline from AB to the port of Churchill MB”

      – BAAAAD idea! Hudson Bay and the straits out to the Atlantic are impassible most of the year; ships still sink up there from hitting ice. REALLY don’t want a fully-laden tanker spilling its guts in the Arctic – the cleanup would be virtually impossible, and you know d@mn well who the fed’s would do their best to stick the bill to. And Mister Sun is unusually quiet at the moment, and may be presaging another ice age. So you’d go from a decent three-month shipping season to quite possibly, a no-month shipping season for the next many years.

      Far better to build south and sell straight-up to the U.S., or/and have them build a pipeline out to the coast for you.

      1. I’d prefer a few 48″ lines to join up with the Trans Alaskan Pipeline System. Straight to Valdez. A Yr round open Deep Water Port that can easily handle VLCC-ULCC Tankers (350,-50,000 bbls per). Instant access to Asian Markets.. Not having to build a deep water port, dredge etc would save Billions that could easily be spent building said pipelines.

        The Alaskans have said quite a while back (2014), that they would love our product in their system…What’s not to like.??

        As for Herr Obergruppen Fuhrer Trudeau and his rotten core of Liberal nazi’s and their “aid package’…..??

        You’ve got a weapon Mr Kenney – Time for you to use it. They attempt to block it…you use Notwithstanding Clause. Any complaints..? Refer them to Quebec’s Cement plant.

      2. Build a pipeline from Fort McMurray to Valdez, Alaska. It’s several days shorter to Asia.

    3. Tax Boycotts. Boycott Quebec and Ontario produce. Boycott goods made in Quebec. Boycott Bombardier.

      Refuse to pay taxes. Stop working. Run up your credit card, then cut it up. Can you say bank run? Mass defaults on your mortgages and property taxes. Tell ’em to get fucked, it’s over. Build bots to spam CRA, PBO, and Phoenix. Civil disobedience 21st century is TOTALLY crippling to a government more prepped to handle riots than mass economic warfare – they have ZERO idea how to cope with organised, coordinated boycotts and bank runs. Pick a bank (oh, I dunno, RBC) and announce an online and in-branch “action” that involves draining your account.

      If they close, pick a competitor. If the banks shut down for a week to fight it, wait them out . The instant they reopen, hit ’em again.

      Believe me, it’ll cost you, BIGLY, but no one needs to die, no one even really needs to get their feet wet! Compare that with the costs to France of the Yellow Jacket riots. Hong Kong was so easy to win – just shut down the economy by refusing to play.

      And if you aren’t prepared for the costs and pain of THAT kind of protest, then you are NOWHERE CLOSE to being ready for the blood, hard work and sacrifices needed for winning your freedom.

  31. The only thing that matters to the MTV in that daily talking point is that per Mr Unnamed Source the decision whether to allow the project or not will cause disruption within the liberal caucus.
    That is the only thing about this that is causing any heartburn to the laurentian elite, full stop.
    Now, who would be the benefactor(s) if such an idea started to take hold that the liberal party has again breaking into factions, and what might those factions be?
    One obvious answer is that the MP’s that are all about “Climate Change”(tm) would be opposed to the mine approval. Should they begin to feel they aren’t getting the attention they deserve (like liberals do) all that would be needed is a champion inside caucus for these disgruntled MP to coalesce around.
    But this is just speculation on my part.
    This is just another case of the media having its buttons pushed.

  32. Jason Kenney was elected with a mandate to actually do something.

    Nothing will become of our Oil and Gas industry projects until other provinces like Quebec and B.C. get behind them.
    Politicians from Ottawa, B.C. and Quebec will not bend when it comes to Oilsands Oil. The only way to get the politicians to move is to have their electorate demand it. And the only way to get their electorate to demand it is to get them involved personally.

    No other action will do this until we shut off the valves East and West to get their attention.

    The lack of Oil and Gas will affect the general population by increasing the cost of gasoline, increase home heating costs and increase the cost of Propane to operate their farms.

    This will get their attention. It has to affect them personally, or they won’t get involved. They just don’t care as it doesn’t affect them personally.

    If we curtail supply this will result in putting pressure on their politicians.

    Anything less than this will not work as we have seen. We just keep getting more of the same stalling tactics, which we have been subjected to for the last 4 or 5 years.

    Talking time is over. Action is required. It is time to act and be bold.

  33. Remember this from a few short months ago:

    “Pembina Pipeline Corp. is stepping up to ease a looming propane shortage in eastern Canada sparked by a railway stoppage, striking a chord for national unity at the same time as east-west tensions grow.

    Calgary-based Pembina plans to ship propane to parts of Canada, including Quebec, in a bid to help “fellow Canadians.” The pipeline operator is preparing unit trains, made up of 105 cars, with propane sourced from western Canada, the company said in a statement late Sunday.

    “We believe the provinces can work together in the spirit of unity to secure a safe, reliable and long-term supply of energy from each other, rather than from foreign countries who do not share Canadian values,” it said in its release. “The best question is: why would we not?” said Chief Executive Officer Michael Dilger.”
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-25/alberta-firm-with-canadian-values-comes-to-quebec-s-rescue

    1. I’ll highlight this quote:

      “The best question is: why would we not?”

      …because the rest of Canada will stab Alberta in the back no matter how much the province gives in taxes, no matter how much it assists other provinces in trouble, no matter how much it gives in to the “social license” charade. I get goodwill, charity and trust but at some point prairewest Canada acts more like a Charlie Brown chump who believes that this time Lucy won’t yank the football away.

      OTOH, the modern environmental movement only takes and takes. It is never satisfied. It never stops making new demands. It never gives a damn about the livelihood of the working families it destroys. It never gives back.

  34. Westerners with brains should create a diversion, the one diversion that the LPC fears more than any other – an increased possibility of Quebec separation.

    On the resource sector argument, one half to two thirds of Canadians would prefer green poverty to prosperity, vote accordingly and deserve to get it good and hard but political power trumps all logic and Canada would be rid of the LPC with Quebec gone but still blessed with their NDP brain trust and Green priests. Then if we work on western separatism at the same time they might help us just to appease Quebec.

    Vive Le Quebec Libre!

    1. “ Westerners with brains should create a diversion, the one diversion that the LPC fears more than any other – an increased possibility of Quebec separation.”

      Bazinga
      Imagine if there where more Bloc riding associations outside of Quebec and the mischief that can be caused.

  35. Liberals and media,yes I repeat, are working for Western Separation, do not interrupt them.
    I saw on CPAC,that “Canada will be Carbon Neutral by 2050″..
    An interesting concept.
    Now Canada is currently a carbon dioxide sink,as atmospheric CO2 concentrations increase and IF we were warming,Canada would become an even greater sink..Due to even greater plant growth.

    So to become NEUTRAL we must emit much more CO2.
    I guess math is hard.
    Just as the utter stupidity of CBC;”Most Canadiens will get more back than they pay on carbon tax, Government carbon tax revenues up”
    We have forgotten all the pyramid scams already?

  36. After reading through all these great comments, I felt a desire to respond to several, which would be tedious and time consuming. So, I’ll just add it to the whole comments section. I live in BC, north of the lower mainland, and get a little upset when not invited to be included in the Wexit ideas. I, and a whole bunch of BCers are conservative too, and are just as Po’ed as the rest of you on SDA. The minstrel clearly has it in… for western Canada in general, but yep, I agree, mostly for Alberta. He hates us, and hates the oil sands. It’s dirty oil doncha know! OK, my contention, is what they are doing by extracting from the oil sands, is cleaning the sands, and improving the environment by doing so. So it’s a win win, for the greenies, and for the pro oil side too! It’s just that the greenies are too rabid to see it! The other point I wish to make is this theory of mine.

    When crime escalates, the electorate get rightly agitated, and demand the Government “Do Something!” Therefore, there is a symbiotic relationship between government and criminals. If we could magically get rid of most crime, drugs, and thugs, we wouldn’t need even a half of the Government we have, nor the amount of RCMP officers. The government need to keep the population fearful, to keep their numbers high, and handouts and swill feeding going, and going strong. So introducing more “gun control” without affecting crime at all, works for them. As has been said, if the Government say’s you don’t need guns, then you really do need guns! MikeT above made a reference about the minstrel adding a 75% taxation to capital gains. Think it through. If say, the minstrel decided to tax us all, at fifty, sixty, or seventy percent of our incomes, to pay off the national debt for example, or to assist with becoming carbon neutral, the populace would revolt, there might even be a civil war! I doubt it though, cuz were so frigging complacent here in Canada, but if it did happen, all the legal gun owners would be lending their spare guns and ammo to their neighbors, to fight back. So, who, from the Government’s point of view, is the real threat to their trough slurping? Do you really think that gun legislation is actually misdirected, when it’s only aimed at legal gun owners?

    1. “After reading through all these great comments, I felt a desire to respond to several…”

      After reading through all these great comments, I noticed that the “they shoulds” far outnumber the “I dids” and the “I wills”.

      1. “I noticed that the “they shoulds” far outnumber the “I dids” and the “I wills”.

        Yeah? What do you propose we do and what have you done Mr. Maxime Bernier voting Dumbass?

        1. You?
          I propose that you keep your head where you’ve had it.

          Me?
          A hell of a lot more than you.

          1. “Me? A hell of a lot more than you.”

            Yep, voting for a One-man party who lost his own single seat is Hell, ya Loser.
            Tell us your winning strategy, now that you’ve helped cinch Zoolander’s reelection.

            Since the obvious escapes you, all the evil Zoolander does henceforth is on you and your ilk who shit on the only viable alternative and worked as hard as possible to see the CPC fail to defeat him.

    2. So Gerry, 2 points. Crime is the largest industry in the world and all governments, and many businesses fully support the status quo. So we basiclly agree. However, your suggestion that the populace would revolt about anything is a pipe dream. Our national identity is one of pacifist, pompous, smug, arrogant trough feeding parasites, who think the government loves us. Ignorance is bliss in Swedish Venezuela

  38. Nobody in Alberta wants “aid”.
    Nobody.

    Nobody here wants a carbon tax imposed on it.
    Nobody here wants the Liberals to reach across the aisle.

    All the threats are for nought without action towards separating.
    Separation is the answer.

  40. I’m for separation even if Ottawa returns every penny they’ve ever stolen from us and every living MP crawls on their knees to every household in Alberta begging for forgiveness. I’m tired of existing at the pleasure of Quebec and being robbed by the east in general. Having our liberty stolen to grow their tyranny….no thanks. The sooner we leave the better.

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