16 Replies to “Y2Kyoto: Submergence Of Venice”

  1. When I visited Venice in 1996 they were talking about flood control.

    Already the “ok boomer” crowd is saying this is the biggest Venice flood ever. I guess the flood of 1966 was just too long ago to be history.

    We had a similar story with the 2013 flood in Calgary. The “ok boomer” crowd said it was due to climate change.

    However a review of the historical record shows the floods of 1879 and 1897 were larger, and the 1902 flood was the same time.

    But that was before Facebook, so the “ok boomer” crowd considers it before human records.

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/op-ed/osborn+foolish+think+worst+flood+behind/8622798/story.html

  2. Well there is no point finishing it now as we are all gonna die in 12 years? 12 months ?
    How dare we?.
    It is time to surrender,agree that Cataclysmic Climate causes everything,even Tides,as is the case in Venice and as was the case with tropical storm Sandy..
    Agree and sell them some magic product to keep Great Gaia from goobling them up.
    Science is done,feel is where it is at,so sell the Cultists some comfort products at at least 1000% markup.
    Questioning the Cult of Calamitous Climate is officially heresy in Can-Ahh-Duh.
    So do not commit suicide by crazies,sell ’em what they want.
    Pieces of the True Cross are new again.

    1. Yeah. Italy couldn’t build a thing in a reasonable amount of time marshaling all of the powers and capabilities of the State to solve this problem. For one city.

      Meanwhile, we’re going to control climate, marshaling all of the powers and capabilities of all of the States to solve this problem. For the world.

  3. Build your city in a salt marsh, expect this sort of thing to happen from time to time. Nothing new or earth-shattering about this.

  4. What for?

    The historical city of Venice is projected to have no year-round inhabitants by 2030, with all the actual Venetians having died or fled the city. It’s completing its transition into a theme park for Chinese tourists.

    I don’t see the point of making Italians pay another cent so some little Chinese empress can jump off a train, a plane or a cruise ship just long enough to pose for a selfie on St. Mark’s Square. Charge a stiff entry fee and make her daddy pay.

    Hell, make her daddy an offer for the whole damned place. The place may actually get properly flood-proofed then. The Chinese get stuff done, as I will happily repeat for the benefit of anyone who thinks I never speak well of them.

  5. I met a native Venetian. His wife mistook him for a scandanavian, light skin tone and blonde hair. Real nice guy.
    Worked 30 yrs on Murano making glass beads for necklaces, etc. Laid off a few yrs ago when half the glass shops closed.
    He started work today as a mailman on the island of Venice. Hmm.

  6. Serious question. How do the buildings adjacent to those canals remain standing?
    Why haven’t they collapsed into the mud due to the excessive water?

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    1. They are slowly sinking and there’s a continuous effort to stop that, but it’s expected they’ll continue to sink.

      Why did they build there in the first place, was no better land available at the time?

      1. It was very easy to defend at the time, almost impossible to attack from the land side. It’s similar to why France got conquered so much more often than Britain. Because it’s a hard lift to get across the water with enough force to win. The “bad air” of the swamp also meant disease, poor drinking water, and just generally bad news for anyone who attacked.

        Later on the city’s prowess with and knowledge of ships made them a regional power. Not surprising at all, when watertight boats are needed for daily life.

  7. Dirtman, I was waiting for someone to state that. Yes, it is sinking and you are correct it will continue to sink. I think it was originally a bunch of small islands in the lagoon. I think trade is why it morphed into what it is.

    1. Been there a couple of times. It’s beauty is overwhelming and has destroyed the city as a working community. But, so what? It’s an astonishing, historic place and has to be seen. Same thing has happened to the Cinqua Terre. Glad I got to stay there before reservations were required to even visit. Rick Steves did that
      Back to Venice, Marco Polo’s villa still stands on the Grand Canal. How long is long enough?

  8. eye-tie land?
    mafiosa land?
    thus the *53 year* delay eh?
    mebbe theys waiting for the shipment of defective concrete . . . . .

  9. also, I understand the cocaine state aka florida under(pun intended)going the same sort of thing
    except on a vastly larger area and not in any particular cultural landmark areas.

    its all about water and MONEY.
    if I ever get to europe it aint gonna include venice with the open sewers.

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