The Libranos v. Wilson-Raybould: Open Thread

Bumped with continuing updates and links:

Sure, “Jody”. Wilson-Raybould says PMO restricting her ability to ‘speak freely’ at justice committee.

“The OIC addresses only my time as attorney general of Canada and therefore does nothing to release me from any restrictions that apply to communications while I served as minister of veterans affairs and in relation to my resignation from that post or my presentation to cabinet after I had resigned,” she said in the letter.

As if Trudeau’s going to be seen putting another Indian in jail.

I expect restrictions-of-the-Order-don’t-allow-me-to-speak-my-truth testimony that throws the media ball back into the Trudeau court, and not much else. Check CPAC for a live feed at 3:15 ET.

Early in her testimony, I’ll give her due credit: “veiled threats”. She’s getting right to the point.

With her opening statement complete…

Pretty much.

This too.

I retract my initial skepticism. As summarized in the comments – “She has chucked PM Trudeau and his whole Liberal cabal right under the freaking bus.” In my defense, I underestimated the stupidity of Trudeau and his band of merry idiots.

“Bombshell” is not to strong a word for her testimony. Where it goes from here, who knows? It depends on whether the paid media is satisfied with more resignations or if they pick up the torches and go for the head. But never underestimate the tenacity of a Liberal with a sub-80 IQ.

I may stay up for this: BREAKING – Prime Minister #Trudeau will now speak to reporters at 8:00 PM ET tonight.

And for those who missed it, Wilson-Raybould just compared Trudeau to Nixon.

I’m seeing a fair bit of this.

Question of the Day: If Trudeau was OK with what we heard… WTF does he NOT want us to hear?

164 Replies to “The Libranos v. Wilson-Raybould: Open Thread”

    1. I’m betting on a 30 minute speech highlighting her “people”.

      Followed by a dramatic presentation of a Raven feather to the Fake Feminist Head Librano.

      Accompanied by ooohs and awwws from the Press Gallery.

      Meaning of the Feather of the:
      Raven
      A feather from a raven symbolizes creation & knowledge – the Bringer of the Light

      Yes, it truly is that bad in Canada.

      1. When she first came to Ottawa she had a freckled Irish complexion. When people started to notice, she discovered spray tan. Dishonest from Day 1.

        1. Hey, ease up scar!

          Ever think she might be a member of the Warrenookee tribe? You know the ones: high cheekbones, pale skin, they trade in buffalo excrement. Chief’s name is Lilibutt.

        2. Scar – there are a lot of freckled Indians. Also redheads (think band in North Vancouver). Stems from the Indian Act as was: Indian men could marry white and the wife would get status while Indian women who married white would lose their status. So there were a lot of common-law relationships featuring Indian women and white men as that way the children retained Indian status.

      2. The only Ravens I’ve witnessed have been feeding at the dump, or on dead road kill.

        Yeah, wave that feather. Wash your hands after.

    2. For some time, it’s been apparent that the former “free world” countries (the US, EU, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc.) have been on a downward progression – socially, politically and economically.

      But, in the last ten years, the awareness of this has become increasingly pronounced. With each successive year, more and more people recognise that all facets of life in these formerly great countries are heading in a decidedly negative direction.

      At this point, even those who don’t understand the decline intellectually, feel in their gut that this is not going to end well. Further, they feel it all around them and sense that when the condition becomes critical, it won’t just affect others. When it reaches the crisis stage, they’ll find it right on their own doorstep.

      The average person in each of these jurisdictions already no longer trusts either the media, big business or the government and feels that, somehow, they’re all in this together and that they, the electorate, will be the ones who will be the ultimate victims.

      So, is this a question of “collective imagination” gone haywire?

      Not at all, I’m afraid. Their instincts are quite correct. Governments and big business alike have sold out the populace, regarding them as mere fodder in their pursuit of increased power and wealth. Governments in the former “Free World” have for decades become increasingly collectivist, promising ever-greater largesse to the hoi polloi, and the majority of voters, sad to say, have eaten it up.

      Yet, as the electorate becomes more worried, they don’t ask the government to go into reverse and stop the economically illogical largesse. Quite the opposite. As their fears grow, they demand more largesse.

      And so, it shouldn’t be surprising that, as we get closer to the collapse of this house of cards, new candidates arrive on the scene, offering to take entitlements to Never-never land, promising universal free health care, free education through university and a guaranteed income without the need to earn it in any way.

      Of course, when this happens, those who understand that 2 + 2 = 4, not 8 or 12, recognize that any government that attempts to deliver on such promises will cause the collapse of the system – not just the economic system, but also the social and political systems.

      And, so those people who do understand that the numbers simply won’t work, ask themselves where it will all end. Typically they wring their hands, aware that their concern is the minority view. They recognize that they can no longer discuss their concerns freely, as their country is moving in the opposite direction – embracing the new, empty promises, with ever-more determination.

      They search around for some form of hope and, in the majority of cases, whether they like to admit it to themselves or not, their hopes fix on the Freedom Fairy.

      They vainly hope that somehow, the average voter will “wake up,” or that sitting politicians will come before the press to reverse the stance that they’ve always maintained – that big government will provide for all.

      Unfortunately, that’s a vain hope, isn’t it? Deep in our hearts, we know that sitting politicians are not going to collectively say, “Whoops, we goofed. We’re sending the country into ruin. We’re going to downsize the government, introduce a free market system and then resign and get out of the way.”

      Read the rest here:

      https://www.theburningplatform.com/2019/02/27/the-freedom-fairy/

    3. Business in Quebec is corrupt. So for Turdeau, Moroneau, et al interfering in a prosecution is perfectly normal and proper. Nothing unusual here, time to move on. That will be the view of Liberals in Quebec and Toronto.

      Personally I think Turdeau and Moroneau must resign, but it isn’t going to happen.

    4. From Sun Newspaper. This is why you do not fund newspapers or media with TAX DOLLARS they then work for the Government. End all funding of CBC etc. ( Telford said an external legal opinion would give the government “cover” and allow Trudeau to say he was doing something. She also offered to line up op-eds in the media supporting a decision to intervene in the prosecution, according to the texts.)
      Did You Get THat Telford offered to line up OP-EDs in the media to support Trudeau…….

      1. Who was that CBC guy sho wrote a supportive op ed? All of those people who have been bolstering Trudeau now look very suspicious. This us a very big black nark on the Canadian media.

  1. If she really wanted to speak her mind, she has only to rise in the House in response to a question and spill it all, invoking her right to Parliamentary privilege; while the Liberal caucus might turf her for it, in so doing she’d be exempt from any other punitive retaliation.

  2. Does Wilson-Raybould actually have a plan or is she just trying to get off the bus once she opened the SNC-Lavalin door ?

    She would have know , or may have been remotely involved with the Mark Norman mess which is set to explode later this year , unless the RCMP drop the charges which is highly unlikely now due to the SNC scandal. The Mark Norman case has the same issues of PMO collusion.

    When Wilson-Raybould was confronted with the apparent though unproven PMO attempt to force her to give SNC a pass , she may have acted more out of self preservation than moral high ground, given the pending Mark Norman trial , and didn’t want to take one for the team and perhaps end up in jail.

    She must know that she is finished in the Liberal Party as she is viewed as damaged goods (Trudeau virtually said that publicly) , but last week she was campaigning in Vancouver for the Liberals .. strange behavior .. does she have a plan?

      1. O K, I’m betting on Governor-General, or Trudeau cedes all lands West of the Ontario /Manitoba Border to the First Nations Alliance, Grand Chief…….. why L’il Jody Wilson-Raybould!

        You can bet the behind -the -scenes machinations on both sides were as intense as the Yalta Conference.

        1. ah yes the yalta conference.
          more similarities betwixt mr steel and the TURDoh. they both are real good at orchestrating things although in the case of the TURDoh, we need to find out who the puppet master is.
          and they both deeply admire communism.

  3. This has been a set up from the start folks. Let’s move on to the real scandal, the railroading of Admiral Norman; way stinkier.
    This is the flip side of the DeMarxist inspired Cohen “testimony” circus presently underway. All pomp and no circumstance.
    When you can’t govern worth a crap, when the truth gets you ejected not elected, only power matters; so misdirection is key.

  4. I was going to watch the committee meetings but the chair is an up-talker. Sorry. Can’t watch.

    1. Nbt, I agree. I am going to watch, but Mr. Housefather is insufferable. He loves to flaunt his bilingualism, and his weaselly smooth speaking ability.

      1. I think the Libranos’s strategy is to obfuscate the main issue, reducing the core issue of obstruction of justice to that of “interpretation” of inter-cabinet discussions, etc. Also, they plan to run out the clock, waiting for the sumer doldrums to hit and to wait for Canadians to forget about this scandal. One can imagine the media cartel will oblige Justin Trudeau by forgetting about the scandal as well.

        Currently the federal Liberal government is filling the airwaves with touchy-Feely, feel-good advertising. One wonders how that will play out.

  5. Guys…this could all be a machiavellian plan for Justin to take every vote in Quebec come October…one quick glance at their Dailys and the whole stinking province is ALL IN on letting SNC off the hook. You can bet your boots not that many will see thorugh this to vote NDP or Conservative….Whether she speaks HER truth or any other Caucus concocted “truth”.

    Seriously though, She knew damned well what that little clause in that Budget Bill was and for Whom..! I think she was in favour of it being inserted and used for its intended and grateful receiver – SNC…but I also think it was the actaul Federal Prosecutors who told her NO WAY NO HOW…

    Well Plan or not…I do believe he will once again be PM of this disgusting Corrupt joke of a country and end up precipitating a full blown Constitutional crisis as Alberta & possibly (hopefully), Sask, Mb, NWT & the Yukon LEAVES – a Situation-RESULT I am 1000% in Favour of.

    1. SM, My theory is that Justin’s Liberals are planning for a fall victory, based on (1) winning more Quebec seats from the failing NDP, (2) keeping the Atlantic Canada seats through govetnment patronage, and (3) winning as many ethnic ridings as possible, through unrestricted immigration. This plan, albeit cynically corrupt, could work.

        1. But only with the territory they brought into Confederation. They don’t get to keep all those northern areas with the lovely power dams.

    2. I pick the better option, just say by by to Quebec. Hand them the bill for all the Equalization Payments and remind them all they get for real estate is the 1 mile off the St Lawrence. Oh and by the way, no passport and figure out your own currency. If the far east provinces decide to stay with all good, otherwise by by.

  6. Posted this in a previous thread.
    Trans Mountain
    SNC
    Trudeau needing to show some progress on building the expansion and getting buy in from Quebec.
    Solution
    Award contract to a Quebec company.
    Problem
    The only one in Quebec large enough to do the job is SNC and they are about to lose their ability to access federal contracts.
    Solution
    Bring DPA legislation in to allow Trudeau to put the contract award in the election year budget.
    Problem.
    In their rush to pass the legislation the people at the top didn’t read the legislation unfortunately the Director of public Prosecutions did and rejects application.
    Solution
    Get the AG to override the director.
    Problem
    AG sees a risk to her future career as it would give her rivals leverage to stifle her ambitions.
    She insisted at that point that the PM give her explicit direction. He won’t.
    It becomes a standoff.
    Solution.
    Move someone else into AG portfolio that is with the program.
    She gets demoted
    Problem.
    After exclaiming her presence in cabinet shows everyone is ok and nothing to see here, she resigns from cabinet.
    The key players
    Trudeau, Morneau, Brison, Butts, Telford, Ann Sheppard (senior council Justice Department), the director of public Prosecutions, JWR and an anonymous source.
    Right now its a stand off, but the silver lining is that as long as this stays in the news SNC won’t be getting a federal contract before the writ drops and then they can’t.

    1. Interesting explanation. John Horgan loves it. He will refuse to let a corrupt corporation work in BC. Resulting in lots more lawsuits and more delays. Which is what Turdeau, Notley, Horgan want.

      Best option? Alberta turns off the gasoline taps on the existing pipeline.

  7. Well I’m going to stick my neck out, go full optimist, and predict that JWR gives a damning testimony which triggers a snap election that obliterates the Liberal party.

    You may say I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…

  8. This whole thing is starting to smell like a scripted bullshit soap opera, directed by the media. I’m getting more and more dubious every day

  9. I suspect she’s positioning herself to “take it all”; Shiny has lost a lot of glam, and at this rate he may lose the election, triggering a leadership review; and she’s the only LIE-beral who’s seen to have a shred of integrity, making her a crowd favourite at the conference. But she doesn’t want to drop the blade on the current head-shed, which would immediately make her persona-non-grata with all the Heavy Hitters who REALLY run the Party. So she’s doing a difficult tiptoe-along-the-razor’s-edge, and the only thing I can see that explains why she’d put-up with it, is if she’s angling for Shiny’s job.

    What the hey. If it was a choice between her and Shiny, I’d vote for her; but if Jagmeet was the only other person on the ballot, I’d really rather vote him than either of them.

    1. “…the heavy hitters who REALLY run the party.”

      No one talks much about the Liberal Party and those who still lurk in the shadows but feel the entitlement to run the show. The seniors of the party were never much enamored with The Socks. Trudeau owes his success in capturing the party leadership to his tame media groupies and the disarray that the establishment’s three previous failed selections left behind. He owes his election as Prime Minister to the same, and to his own prowess in the last election; to the failure of Mr Harper to meet that challenge; and to the fickleness of the electorate who bought the pig.

      As he came to power, both as leader of the third party and then as Prime Minister, he has continuously shown that underneath the trade-mark smirk and the nice hair was a spoiled, entitled and vindictive child; one who was not adverse to lashing out when the opportunity presented itself. His disdain for the party has been evident since he appointed a cabinet full of those even more amateur than himself, and his imperial isolation from real work or actual contact with his party – elected or otherwise. The past three weeks have amply demonstrated this; yet again.

      Trudeau has now spent three years showing that he really was not ready. He could and did claim then that the party and all his MPs owed their success to his coattails. But increasingly he is being seen by all those outside his own bubble as more of a potential liability; and the knives may be more than being sharpened. It may be payback time. This episode did not come from the opposition, or from investigative reporting. It is being fed by insiders; insiders with long memories and their own agenda(s). I thought that Mr Butt’s sudden departure, and the much under-reported expulsion of the PM’s staff from the caucus room, was the price that The Socks were being forced to pay; but it seems now that the high alter of political survival wants more. How much more? And what will be left when it is over?

      It would seem that is left for Ms Wilson-Raybould is to either fold her teepee, or pull down the temple. But maybe Mr Trudeau and his advisors should read some history; where they might learn that one oft-forgotten historical tradition of First Nations culture was to torment enemies with exquisitely prolonged torture…

      But while she seems to hold the deciding feather right now, don’t for a minute think that she is by herself. She has friends on the inside; but are they allies with a plan, or just fellow travelers?

      1. Then we should start a book on how long young Bobby Socks (BHCS) lasts and who his replacement will be. It needs to happen before the Summer so everyone can forget the drama and the rubber chicken circuit makes everyone familiar with the new leader who has always been leader.

  10. The testimony will be carefully tailored to protect the Liberal brand. I have actually lost interest in the case. If there is genuine infighting among Liberals that might undermine Trudeau, then I am interested, but as a real Liberal threat, I feel that this one has run its course.

  11. as soon as I see the trail of palmgreasing money back to the LPC, I will know that we are getting closer to the truth. cgh and his nonsense about “they” all do it is dangerous, as it turns a blind eye to “add scam 2″. I think WJR may have the info on this money trail, and is using it to play her game, what ever that is. Once out of the ‘legal” file and into veterans affairs, she is no longer legally bound, as to what when on since being shuffled out of AG file

    1. Adscam didn’t hurt the Libs, which was much worse than this, with cash money in brown enhvelopes in seedy restaurants. The subtleties of this will not infect the populace. I’ll let you know from Mrs. Ottawa’s reaction.

    2. Yes mand in fact they are, which is why we need the PPC to break up business as usual.

  12. We’ve already seen how quebek thinks. They sent a message in the by-election. FU Canada we’re voting librano. The Mark Norman affair will be more of the same.

    So that gives bongo the 40 seats in fish world, big gains in quebekkie the usual sycophants in 416 and – voila back in power.

    JWR won’t do a thing to shed a flicker of light on the SNC-L matter.

    This is a watershed moment in Canada. Canadians of all stripes can seen government corruption on full display. They can see how laws were made, by slight-of-hand and then enforced by government discipline. So far nobody’s been killed (I think) but if that had to happen it would. Staying in power and allowing the stealing to continue is their modus operandi.

    The libranos have perfected theft. No government in Canada has taken graft to the level attained by the LPC. They are the best – ever.

    Most disturbing is Canadians willingness to accept this kind of corruption. A pox on our house. Shame on us.

  13. Jody wilson-raybould has just started to speak, at 3:50 Eastern, and she is throwing bombshells against the Trudeau govetnment. Extraordinary. JWR is thotough and she is articulate, presenting fact after fact.

    1. Wow! What a pleasant surprise – I don’t think a lot of people on either side were expecting her to go nuclear on Trudeau. A good day for Canada!

  14. This is incredible.

    Don’t like the answer, just get a third party opinion and neuter the Attorney General. Appropriate.

  15. The Clerk is such a toady. Acting like a whip rather than the independent head of bureaucracy.

    JWR looks strong and believable. Trudeau looks like an absolute lightweight by comparison.

  16. Wow. She has just blown up the government. The Clerk has to go; likely before the hearing ends. The PM should be next; it is just a question of how long it takes.

    1. Bombshell after bombshell she spoke her truth! Trudeau can’t keep talking about jobs…he needs to resign. Talk about weasels and crooks. Wilson Raybould has stunned the lot of them. We cannot let this go, this is corruption.

      1. Liz J, “Wilson Raybould has stunned the lot of them”. and myself included. “Bombs” are hardly enough to describe what J.W.Raybould did today.

        And PMGroper looks like a chump for not being available to take questions today(said he might not be available for 2 weeks) Can’t see how he could avoid the press, after JWR’s testimony today.

        Trudeau looks like a highschool drama teacher, in how little he understands about the law !

        Remember Justin feels we need to believe the woman !

        1. Trudeau looks like a part time amateur highschool drama teacher, in how little he understands about the law !

      2. Well Trudeau did tell her that SNC-Lavelin would have to sell and shut down its head office. I think SNC were bullying the little boy there.

  17. Ka-Boom.

    JAB is right about the Clerk. And likely several staffers at the PMO.

    Will Trudeau resign? He should but I would be surprised if he did. And the Libs are not going to defeat their own government and force an election.

    But there is really no way out for Trudeau at this point. Time for a walk in the snow.

    1. No it will be fudged and all will blow over and be forgotten in the Summer, Justin Time for the election in October. Butts conceived of a strategy I am sure.

  18. PUBLIC INQUIREY !,,,,,,,,,,Everyone under oath, J.W.Raybould, PMGroper, C of PC, Minister of Finance, Gerald Butts, and everyone of their staff involved.

    1. A public inquiry would likely be a gift to the Grits. It would take months to get going, possibly past the election and give plenty of political Butts cover, not being able to comment on an “ongoing matter.”

      Remember how the Grit sycophants at the CBC and their trough-fed affiliates were OK with no comment on the “ongoing matter” of the Duffy trial. No they weren’t. I knew that, but the double standard is set to be revealed.

      The CPC and NDP can make hay with this; JWR gives them evidence, without specifics, of the culture of PMO corruption.

      When will the Grit most likely to be co-opted be allowed to come out of the Butts, along with PCO interference in Norman trial.

      1. Shamrock: The BIGGER CASE is Vice Admirel Norman’s case that people aren’t getting the information about. The PMO will not co-operate with Norman’s lawyer. I do believe their are subpoena’s for Trudeau and Butt’s emails, letters, phone message literally everything they used to message back and forth. This about building ships with Irving Ship builders 32 billion dollars compared to buying others from other country’s for 658 million. The owner of Irving Shipbuilders will get 3.2 billion personally. How much will the Trudeau Foundation get!! This LIE-BRAL gov’t should be held accountable for all this corruptions. How does this make Sophie and the children feel…I bet Justin lies to them. The truth means nothing to Justin!!

    2. Better to make a formal complaint to the RCMP (yeah, I know) than to have a joke of a Public Inquiry. I’ll take my chances with the RCMP for better or worse

  19. Interesting that Ben Chin, ex CBC, is up to his neck in this and James Cudmore, ex CBC, is up to his neck in the Mark Norman matter.

    1. I’m thinking the judge will have to throw it out, due to political interference or just the perception…..

        1. Hopefully NOT. I want to see it go all the way to trial in August and September, right up to the election campaign. I want to see months and months of Liberal mud being publicly spilled. Day after day of hammering. Endless Liberal bloodletting and infighting. I wanna see Brison and LeBlanc and Trudeau (if he’s still around by then) and Butts and Telford dragged over the coals day after day after day.

          1. I would normally agree, but you have more faith in the system than I do. I no longer trust the justice system as I think it has been hopelessly compromised by the Liberals over the years, as is the RCMP (High River).

  20. She through him under the bus and then backed it up over him. I won’t lie , I am surprised.

  21. Looks like the shit has hit the fan. CBC is covering this as their top on-line article. Normally a big story gets 4,000 “reading now”. This article says 26,681. That’s huge.

  22. Found online:

    “A tidbit from @nathancullen not widely known: The committee was asked to move the @Puglaas testimony to noon today, the better to ask @JustinTrudeau about it in QP. Voted down by Lib MPs. Now the PM, who is away tomorrow, dodges Qs until March 18 when the Commons returns.”

    1. Gives the sneering asshole more time to rehearse his act, when it comes to Turdhole… its all about the act, the smirking fool.

  23. a good opportunity to remind SDA and point out I have
    -been observing Cdn politics at every level, municipal, prov, fed since my early teens in the early 60s.
    -participated a bit in 90s as a scrutineer.
    -have a poli sci degree from ye old McMaster U Hamilton ’96.

    the TURDoh 2.0 is in my opinion, and will be judged far into the future as the WORST pm we have had and ever will have.
    more evidence on almost daily basis now.
    odds of LIEberals winning in october is a separate issue.

    1. No, you are forgetting Joe Who

      He didn’t even have time to unpack, lost his luggage or something.

      1. Joke Lark wasnt in ‘orifice’ long enough to do extensive lasting damage.
        the TURDoh clan seem to think that is their duty . . . .
        but the Joke Lark thing points out a common pattern with CONservatists, time and time and time again and again and again, at those moments and opportunities to TURF a TURD, ‘Who’ do they offer to the electorate? ‘Who’ indeed.
        kinda like now with Joe ‘Andy Panda’ ScheerWho.

        1. Wrong. Clark’s damage WAS extensive, and lasts to this very day.

          Trudeau was retired and out the door, looking forward to a swinging lifestyle.

          Meanwhile, Clark announced he “would govern as though with a majority”, AND insultingly rejected the modest request of Fabien Roy to have the Creditistes treated as an official party in the HoC.

          The Opposition defeats the budget and its gasoline excise tax. (According to all the [Liberal] media, it was a “western budget”. Crosbie might have been a ‘Newf, but the PM was an Albertan. Unforgiveable.)

          Keith Davey asks Trudeau to shave off his beard and move back to 24 Sussex. Eastern Canada gives Pierre a majority, and as it chanced he’d saved up the worst of his evil plans for this country in those four and half years.

          Blame Clark for those years. He had a large minority and a pliable parliamentary ally, but pride goeth before a fall, and a haughty spirit before destruction. That sums up Clark. But it was the country that continues to suffer on his account.

  24. Trudeau not in Commons this week
    ” When danger reared its ugly head he quickly turned his tail and fled…..”

    1. The Liberals were injured today. Just a flesh wound though. I hear the sound coconuts banging as Butts rides full speed for the border.

    1. That’s the Liberals plan get rid of Trudeau who do you think will replace him?

      Another Liberal

      The liberals know they can’t win with Trudeau so he has to go.

      October is far away lots of time for the Liberals to recover.

  25. I bet they’re thinking that if they chuck Junior now, they might have enough time to eke out a win.
    Your first instinct is correct: Never trust a liberal.

    1. She’s been put up to this. It wasn’t such a shock to her idealism when it first occured; simply when she got demoted. And, even then, she kept mum. So, she is not acting upon moral indignation or shock at the gambling going on, despite her poor-little-me speaker-of-truth armor she drapes herself with. A little too self-serving if you ask me.

      No, she’s someonelse’s lever to oust L’il’ p’tate

      1. Or, maybe she’s just honest. And maybe she was fed up with the utter hypocrisy of “Mr. Transparency” hiding the DPA law in his budget bill. Or appalled by the crudeness of the pressure applied by “Mr. Sunny Ways”. But she was a team player, and when demoted she kept her mouth shut, until the Liberals started the whispering campaign, and Justnot stuck his foot in his mouth with his “Her presence in cabinet speaks for itself” comment.

        It’s one thing to rat out your team. It’s quite another for your team to imply that you’re a rat too. I wouldn’t stand for it, and neither did JWR. Good on her, and good on her testimony. I hope a lot of people here re-read their predictions, and realize how badly they’ve misjudged this quite obviously decent woman.

      2. nope Robert, this is a set up by the back room boys. They were hurting $$$$$$ with McStupids stupidity. He had slipped his leash and they are taking him down. We just have to wait and see what they will give her as a reward. This is also what happened here in ontarIowe, the back room bys supported Ford, to get rid of windbag

    2. scar, yeah,I’m in shock! Maybe JWR is actually a person with a modicum of integrity who resented being pushed around by the odious Butts and his bum-boy,Trudeau.

      Trudeau must resign and let an adult be acting PM until the election. I’d suggest Garneau,but they’d probably choose Freeland.

    3. She only became a Liberal shortly before the 2015 Election. She was courted by both the Liberals and NDP to run for Parliament and apparently she took some time before choosing Justin.

      She has her choice of running for Liberal Leader or taking Bellegarde’s job as the Top Chief.

  26. I’m looking forward to ads reminding voters about adscam, which happened the last time the liberals were in power. SNC is maddening enough, but if you put it in context with what the liberals did the last time they were in power . . . Every swing voter needs to be thinking “Fool me once . . .”

  27. Einstein would have been proud. Canada exploded the World’s first WR Bomb over Ottawa. Trudeau’s government is publicly exposed as deeply corrupt and acting knowingly against their fiduciary responsibility of maintaining a fair and equal justice system. WR has performed the single most patriotic act I’ve ever witnessed from a Parliamentarian. The sitting Gov’t needs to be dissolved and elections called immediately. Holy crap!

  28. Well that was a pleasant surprise. Didn’t see it coming. Guess those useless poli sci courses I took didn’t didn’t prepare me very well. ha ha

    How much wiggle room does this leave the libranos? Are they prepared to trash JWR? A dangerous move that would backfire. I liked the idea that the ‘wickedly smart’ Katie Telford vomited out the fact that if JWR changed her mind she (KT) could get a bunch of librano toady journos to write op ed’s in favour of the change. Say’s a lot about the independence of the press. Wonder how they are going to spin this?

    The entire front bench and most of the second tier are a bunch of dimwitted second rate minimum wage thinkers. Stupid to their very core. If there is a librano in the caucus with a conscience or a spark of integrity they have to throw in the towel. Don’t hold yur breath.

  29. When Trudeau came up with his first excuse for demoting Wilson Raybould saying if Brison hadn’t resigned she would still be Attorney General is what did it for me. That’s about as bad as it gets , even the Keystone Cops could figure this escapade out.
    Prior to Wilson Raybould’s testimony I had hope she would at least defend her own reputation and didn’t see how she could and not tell the facts.

  30. The only two adult questioners were Raitt and Rankin but Wilson Rabould blew the whistle on her own. The Liberals will either pull the rug out from under the Spawn or allow the electorate to do it.

    Me thinks the Spawn will be getting a call from an Eastern power broker soon.

    1. possibly someone working at SNC-Lavelin, or a friend of theirs at their bankers at Pris-Bas, someone connected with the Power Corp, of which there are many members of that familly; even Bob Ray I believe now.

  31. Was Housefather a fcuking clown before he got elected? The man might make PM Pressure seem half smart.

  32. They’ll likely dump Trudeau as party leader, and JWR will win the leadership, She’s a Liberal and always wanted to be PM.

    1. JWR leading the Liberals? Not a chance. First, she’s hardly bilingual and, second, she’s thrown Quebec’s biggest employer to the wolves; she’s poison there. Note Trudeau’s Outremont press conference afterwards stressing over and over how forcing SNC-Lavalin to trial was entirely her decision. Given Quebec’s critical importance to the Liberals, it’d be suicide for the party to choose her as leader. Far more likely for her to go into BC politics; that’s where her power base is.

  33. The trudough name doesn’t draw much respect with the quebek froggie. They never warmed up to T1 and they know a jackass (T2) when they see one. Froggie barters his vote tho.

    If it becomes apparent bongo is a liability look for librano Power brokers to deep six him. It would have to take place quickly because of the imminent election. Not likely but an election loss would send him packing.

    If he starts having ‘health’ issues…..

  34. Hopefully Turdeau will take a walk in the snow.

    But at his upcoming 8 pm news conference he will say his recollection is that they just had robust discussions, but he understands that some people may see things differently. He will go on to say that he is proud of fighting for middle class jobs, and since Jody wasn’t prepared to get outside legal advice as was suggested by his officials, he removed this narrow minded woman from the Justice portfolio.

    1. Joe, basically that is exactly what he said, although the snake did add some new information. We discovered that it was all Stephen Harper’s fault.

    1. “… in a way that is consistent with our values…” so says Turdeau.

      The Liberal values of dishonesty and corruption.

      Turdeau must resign, Moroneau must resign, the stupid clerk of the privy council must resign.

    2. Quite frankly, I don’t think SNC should be charged for the bribery in Libya. It’s the way of that world around there. I think the law that caught SNC is a stupid vanity law. However, this whole afffair has highlighted, for those payning attention, the corrupt nature of ALL welfare state governments, AKA Big Governments.

      1. But SNC has been caught in bribes for the new Champlain bridge in Montreal and the McGill health centre

      2. Robert, bullshit. Once the $$$$$ is lost track off, it comes back to skewer our elections, just as add scam money did.

        SNC has offices in 50 countries, does business in 160 countries, and has 50,000 employees world wide. They do not need to engage in corrupt practices at all.

  35. The opposition should push an emergency bi-partisan non-confidence motion in the HOC in the incontrovertible light of JWR’s testimony that the highest levels of our Gov’t are corrupted. Then any Liberal back bencher gets their chance to show publicly they’re for the Rule of Law or for the rule of despotic corruption.

    1. The LibCon parties have to go…

      They are all corrupt…

      Federal Government Departments are all corrupt and now justice.

      We need to clean out the corrupt swamp that currently resides in all of our Canadian houses of government and law.

      1. The “civil Service” as is in Canada is a Liberal creation. They are all Liberals. The CBC was a Conservative creation but is in the Liberal camp now. Conservatives, too, like big government, as do all goernment unions.

        Th eonly way to control this is to restrict the sway of government. Less government, fewer hands in the cookie jar.

  36. Let’s not forget that JWR is a Liberal, period.
    She has not, nor is she able to change her stripes, she has been elected by her constituency, they want a Liberal representing them in Parliament.

    Her supposed “integrity” is based on Liberal ideology, get into power and do whatever it takes to stay in power. She is also a lawyer, has been taught and manipulated by that ungodly institution.

    Where was this high moral standarded MP when Justin was elbowing his way thru the HOC floor? Where was her morality when Justin pulled all summer jobs grants from Pro-Life organizations? Where were the press conferences when Justin and Shamus skipped off to Treasure Island to meet the Agah Khan and John Jerry and talked about “nuffin” ?

    JWR is politically motivated, she is like Hillary. There is an opportunity and she is taking it. This is her spotlight on the world stage and she taking full advantage.

    Justin may not return for the spring session. There are too many questions he must answer and the Liberal Machine will send him riding into the sunset with a very healthy contribution to his family trust. He will be able to dress up and dance the nights away to his heart’s delight.

    JWR may well have been selected to ascend the Sugar Maple Throne. All she has to do is appear to be speaking the truth for the next 8 months.

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