A decade-old goal to get at least half a million electric cars on Canada’s roads by the end of 2018 appears to have missed the mark by more than 400,000.
The 2009 Electric Vehicle Technology Road Map for Canada, produced by a panel of experts in part for the Department of Natural Resources, aimed for 500,000 cars with the hope of galvanizing industry to make and sell them and government to encourage people to buy them.
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The Liberals in 2016 promised a national strategy for electric vehicles by the end of 2018. Thus far they haven’t delivered and a spokeswoman for Transport Minister Marc Garneau says she can’t say when it will come.
In the last three years the federal government has spent $182 million to buy and install more vehicle-charging stations.
Falling 80% short of their targets didn’t stop their pimps in media from torquing the headlines.
h/t Ottawa MJ
If they wanted people to use electric cars maybe they shouldn’t have caused electricity prices to skyrocket with their warmist green energy initiatives.
Again exposing that climate change is just an excuse for bigger government.
Butts “Justin we need that electric car strategy”
Turdeau, “ Jerry uh uh if we subsidize electric cars uh,uh then I won’t have enough uh money for election goodies”
They genuinely believe that if you just throw up enough solar panels and windmills over the land, that electricity prices will come down and all will be well with the planet. All evidence to the contrary is simply dismissed as “Well we haven’t built enough yet!”
Kind of like how a true-believer Communist will dismiss all evidence of communism’s failure everywhere it has ever been tried with a hand wave of “But that wasn’t TRUE communism.”
It’s not that they propose installing the photovoltaic modules and wind turbine generators, but that they think that one can simply stick them anywhere and the problem’s solved.
There’s little thought given to the fact that available insolation and wind power varies with location and that, in order to be effective, a renewable energy system should be customized to not just the load but where it’ll be placed. In addition, one needs to consider what combination of PV and wind turbines will produce the best, and most economical, results.
I looked at that problem for my Ph. D. thesis and there are some situations in which RE can’t compete against other power sources and some in which it’s a feasible solution.
Exactly. They don’t want to be bothered with the science, the physics, the engineering aspects of it. They certainly don’t give a damn about the stability of the electrical grid itself (which gets worse and worse as you keep putting more wind & solar into it), they simply take it for granted.
Solar in this country should be utterly laughed at. We’re too far north for it to matter worth a spit, especially in the season where we need the power the most!
The arithmetic is pretty simple. Canada consumes approximately 1.5 million barrels of oil per day. That’s about 550 million barrels/year. Converted into electricity, that’s approximately 2.6 TWh/day. Now, a typical large nuclear reactor produces about 8 TWh per year.
http://www.kylesconverter.com/energy,-work,-and-heat/barrels-of-oil-equivalent-to-kilowatt–hours
Producing all of 550 million bbl/year would require about 935 TWh. In short, the full output of approximately a 120 large power reactors. The notion of producing all this energy from RE is simply prohibitive in terms of either cost or space. Ontario has a total of 18 large power reactors. So to power all of Canada with electricity from nuclear power from sources previously provided with petroleum would require a nuclear fleet about five to six times that of Canada’s existing nuclear reactor fleet. The cost would be vastly less than RE in terms of both capital and land but much greater than existing petroleum.
A study by Ferroni & Hopkirk 2016 shows that after 25 years, solar panel farms in Germany & Switzerland produced only 82% of the energy required to manufacture, install, & maintain them. It also demonstrated that at this point in time (at current solar panel efficiency) latitude 35N (approximately the southern border of the state of Tennessee) is the solar energy break even line. After 25 years of operation, solar farms north of this line produce LESS energy than it takes to manufacture, install, & maintain them, while solar farms south of this line produce more.
just wait until the disposal of wind turbines and solar panels produce the ecological disaster that they are going to produce.
But the wind and the sun are free. Or so I’ve been told.
They are free in that they are readily available to anyone. The expense is in building a means by which the energy they provide can be extracted and used. It’s not as straightforward a problem as the watermelon alliance will have one believe.
Oil and gas were free too, before the government started charging for them. Their expense is also in building a means by which the energy they provide can be extracted and used.
Oil and gas, however, are regulated. A renewable energy, though, can be built on one’s own property without many such restrictions, if any. There are, however, a lot of hoops that one has to jump through if one wants to connect it to the grid but there’s nothing that I’m aware of that would prevent anyone from building an RE system to produce their own power and use it for themselves.
Sorry, I should have used /sarc.
they also cannot be built without fossil fuels.
One section of government is always forcing sheeple to pay for what another beurocracy is forcing sheeple not to do. This way neither beurocratic parasites achieve anything and thus secure their 10-3 jobs.
Take housing. One agency taxes and buys land, for squirrels. Raising land costs. Another forces low density , consuming more land at lower density. A third forced faux historical touches at higher house cost. A forth forces structural codes and weather at higher costs. All this takes 1-2 years of hack meetings, plans, fees while the gov hacks snail ever closer to 50year old retirement.
Naturally due to higher land and housing costs further hack housing authorities must be built to throw up a couple of union built, 4 times the square foot cost instant slums, unwanted, and filled by urban single mothers and their feral utes. On taxpayers back. And also a homeless public/private rent seeking supports all the liberal/leftist high costs as it drives more bodies into their racket.
Eventually all these august pubic servants retire to a low cost, low tax conservative place because their hometowns have become welfare, high tax crap holes.
My local suburban town’s single LARGEST Building Fee $$ is “Parkland Dedication”. No, the city has no plans to purchase land for a “Park”. No land is available, and it would be far too expensive anyway. The Fees are used to Fund “Recereational Programs” run by the city … hundreds of classes such as:
– “Tai Chi for white suburbanites”, or
– “Yoga for new hipster moms and their infants”, or
– “Ethnic dance for old white women who carrrrrre about the third world”.
– “New age cooking for a vegan planet”
I know you believe I’m being humorous … I’m not. I believe the current Recreation fee for building is nearly $4.00/sq.ft.
“If they wanted people to use electric cars maybe they shouldn’t have caused electricity prices to skyrocket with their warmist green energy initiatives.”
DING, DING, DING!
We have a winner!!
I have no interest in buying an electric car but always wondered how do they supply heat in cold weather?Maybe warm up bricks wrapped in a blanket to keepyour feet warm like the old horse and buggy days.now that’s progress.
You would have to have a fire to eat the bricks!! Isn’t that environmentally wrong? Or, maybe you could use an oven (electricity) to heat the bricks. HMMMM! Doesn’t that defeat the reason for the electric car?
You could skip the electricity and wear furs, head to toe. Yeah, furs are the answer.
terry, the 1955 Studebaker I owned had an electric heater in it, OME, and you had instant heat in that sucker.
This is the FIRST family car of my childhood memories … and in a related story … the brand new elementary school I first attended was named … Skycrest Elementary. Yes, because of the space programs.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f4/9f/f9/f49ff9eaea32acccd9ecd1e1407d7550.jpg
Oh, how I long for the era when scientists … did science.
Unicorn farts are warm, aren’t they? I’ve heard they smell like rainbows!
I too have no idea how electric cars provide heat in cold weather, but I suspect it’s via electric coil heaters. Generating heat using electric coils takes a lot of electricity, which translates into a lot of $. In temperate climates (like the southern US) , the average household uses 5,000 to 30,000 kWh of energy / year for heating, which equates to an average heating cost of $1,000 to $6,000 USD / year at an electricity rate of $0.20/kWh (not including taxes and other fees). In the US, the use of space heaters (electric coil heating) accounts for a whopping 41% of household energy usage.
There is an installation of at least a dozen chargers in the parking lot of a ‘Smart Centre’ (big box store plaza) near me. I have only ever seen 1 car under charge at it. I go by it on a regular basis and make a point of noticing.
Do they charge for the electricity, or is it paid for by the taxpayer?
Get a fake cord to plug in and you’ll always find a parking spot if you shop there.
Blood Batteries, these racist posers abuse little black people for virtue signaling status.
You almost sound as if you would deny dirt-poor little black, brown, and yellow children from earning a pittance wage to (paraphrasing Bob Dylan) … “dig my rare earth”. But instead support some young white Canadian “kid” making $112,000.00/year digging the oil drenched sands?
How cruel are you!?
/BIG sarc.
More Pie in the Sky Bullshit about meeting the “Demand” for EV’s…..trouble is, there is ZERO DEMAND…for an urban bound car that takes hours to re-charge and can only go 250 km’s, that will need a NEW battery in 7-8 years at a minimum cost of $8-10,000…..all for an original purchase price of ~$35,000 …?? And to think that outside of YVR, these things will actually get you somewhere..? when its -30..?, and keep you warm at th same time..? Good luck on that.
Where is the incentive for those of us that have paid off our perfectly good vehicle that is maintained ….? there aint one. Where is the 3/4 Pickup that can pull my RV in the Summertime…it dont exist – likely never will.
EV’s just another form of Virtue Signaling BS as are the 5kw of Solar Panels on your home + a pair of 15′ Wind Turbines all to charge up a Battery bank of some $8- 10,000 worth of 1 Volt Surrette Batteries.
Our Civilization was created by an Abundance of cheap available energy. This Climate Change garbage is designed to lighten your wallet – nothing less.
The EV market has not succeeded for the reasons stated, exceptionally low range, over priced, poor cold weather performance, and don’t forget, also some of the ugliest cars on the road.
They can be a solution for a fair weather climate like the south coast and the island, but I’m not there yet.
If I could buy one for $30k, with a range of 450km, that doesn’t look like a design reject, then I’m in for one, as it will save me $200+ per month in fuel, and allows range freedom for our getaways.
Those reasons apply across the board, and is mainly why EVs have not taken off, as the ‘good’ ones (Tesla’s for example) are priced well over $50k new. Don’t even try to get me in a Prius, a smart car,or any other roller skate, not happening. And it doesn’t appear that anything will change soon, as far as a $30k car that has the range, looks and functionality of an ice car.
What you say. A couple in our town 40 minutes north of Saskatoon have an almost new hybrid and find it difficult to use in winter as the battery forever dies.
I don’t doubt that at all, and agree that EVs are a terrible choice for winter needs. These are exceptionally expensive vehicles with very limited applications and usefulness. No wonder government likes them, they are the epitome of inefficiency!
EVs do not meet the needs of 98% of car owners. Nuff said.
electric cars should be left to the snowflakes in California, they swallow any bullshit the government feeds them. I always laugh when I see someone driving a $100,000 Tesla. I wonder if he realizes the vehicle lost 60% of it’s value as soon as he left the dealership.
My upper, upper, middle class suburban enclave in the SF Bay Area is lousy with Tesla saloons, Chevy Bolts and Volts, and Pruii out the wazoo. ALWAYS driven by a trophy wife (and wanna be trophy wife) for the 4mi. round trip to the boutique health food store.
Thanks, American TAXPAYERS! For subsidizing the .05% living in my town!! For subsidizing their virtue.
Tesla started selling their first cars for $100,000 US, and were losing money. The price went up to $125,000 and they were still losing money, but then Obama was elected and started shovelling out money to electric car manufacturers and the price dropped to $75,000 to the buyer.
On top of that there are subsidies from Canadian Federal and Provincial governments, so how much do they really cost? No-one knows, but it’s a lot more that the buyer pays.
Even if the performance and price to me was competitive with an ICE car, I wouldn’t buy one because I would feel like I was stealing from the poor taxpayers.
I think most people buy teslas because they can out accelerate any other car in their price range by a big margin.
I look forward to a new generation of ‘Bennett Buggies’:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennett_buggy
ferfcuksake, WHY does ‘gubbamint’ need to *encourage* ANYTHING??
if it works people will flock to the new gadget, policy, opportunity et friggin CETERA.
no god*&^$*mn need to ‘encourage’ ANYTHING.
Absolutely. I have a battery powered ice auger and chain saw, not because the gov’t provided a subsidy, but because they are great! But no way am I trading in my F150 for an EV. Can’t see that happening for a looooong time, if ever.
No question batteries make a lot of sense in many applications. But other than a small segment of the road vehicle market they do not.
I wonder what the ultimate size of that segment is and how close to saturation it is…
My battery powered hedge clippers are … life-changers. No more accidentally cut electric cords, no more mixing my two cycle fuel. Just charge and go. And my clippers are as powerful as a Tesla driven in insane-mode!!
However, that’s the LARGEST piece of equipment I care to have powered by a battery. It takes two batteries to get through all my shrubbery. Thankfully all charged at home … not at some remote “supercharger” station.
“ferfcuksake, WHY does ‘gubbamint’ need to *encourage* ANYTHING??”
Exactly. The only time the government should interfere in the free market is when there are serious ethical and/or environmental issues that need to be addressed. Otherwise, they should butt out. Encouraging new technology (using taxpayer money) is NOT a function of government, and is a clear violation of a politicians’ fiduciary responsibility to their constituents (like that really matters…). The free market is like evolution. Innovation and efficiency survive. Things that don’t work well go extinct.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/electric-car-sales-soaring-but-canada-still-nowhere-near-goal-set-in-2009
“Although more electric cars were sold in Canada in 2018 than in the previous three years combined, they still accounted for about two per cent of the vehicles sold overall and there are only about 100,000 of them on the road.”
From the NP note the excitable headline, and the completely unrelated story line. Clearly there is no soaring Demand for any electric vehicle outside of a few committed zealots, looking for an urban runabout, or second car. This despite lavish government direct subsidies, in Ont up to $12,000 on retail price, plus subsidized charging stations.
The hope, dream springs eternal from CBC showing of Who Killed the Electric Car to Liberal policy for a “program” to spur buyers interest. The fact that Canada’s vast spaces and winter climate is totally unsuited for such vehicles remains lost on these urban dreamers. Most consumers have some common sense in vehicle purchases, Liberals not so much.
I’m going to guess that the “panel of experts” was nothing of the sort.
182 MM$ for 100,000 cars is a $1820/vehicle subsidy on top of all the other subsidies…
BTW for those interested in the real sales data, this is an excellent site:
https://insideevs.com/monthly-plug-in-sales-scorecard/
Indeed with the tesla 3 sales have grown a lot in 2019. But, There were painfully few sales in prior years AND little chance there will be anywhere near that growth in sales again this year.
By comparison total passenger and light truck sales in the US in 2018 were 17,274,000 with true EVS (do not include Pug-in hybrids) sales being 233,000. Thus EVs have 1.35% of the market.
Assuming a robust growth in sales going forward of 20% annually and static overall sales, EVs will have just 10% of the market by 2030.
Good analysis Gord. Keep in mind that the data assumes that the subsidies and so forth will continue (see my later post).
Take those subsidies and other goodies away and let’s see how sales look then.
“Transport Minister Marc Garneau says she can’t say when it will come”
she? Is it Trans-sport Minister?
Read the whole sentence.
As mentioned above, government has a helluva marketing campaign:
1) our policies will make retail electricity prices skyrocket
2) it’s a great time to buy an electricity powered vehicle.
Only our ruling class could be that obtuse. Not to worry though, I see that politicians and experts are following their standard operating procedure and moving from carrot stage to stick stage to “nudge” people to buy ecars – Quebec quotas, BC legislation to ban fossil fuel autos. Authoritarian control freaks.
In my opinion, they’re going about this all wrong, as usual. There is a market for small electric transportation like scooters, mopeds, segways, golf carts, ebikes. These are great for short urban commutes, putting in the RV for vacations, sightseeing, etc. In the places like Italy, mopeds are everywhere. Find ways to increase their integration into public areas.
The fossil fueled internal combustion engine will rule for most Canadians due to our harsh weather, long trips, price, reliability and convenience. Stop wasting money on an ecar revolution, it’s a pipe dream. Quit wasting taxpayer’s money to try to force us to buy inferior crap we don’t want.
The Laurentian elite are not “most Canadians“; Most would disagree with every fact you cite. And you leave out the social cachet of owning a vehicle that will save the world.
And you forget the incredible graft that will flow from this conversion to EV’s.
The $182 million spent on charging stations is just the tip of the iceberg; the best is yet to come! And of course gasoline taxes can always be pushed higher.
In short there are many tools that can be used to facilitate the transition to a golden renewable future!
exactamundo.
my anecdote for the day: was in a body shop eons ago, spotted 2 car batteries in a big ol’ Cadillac.
howcum? says I.
‘the temperature PLUNGES where I live in N Ontariowe’ came the reply.
is this going to be an option when electric is rammed down our t’roats? DOUBLE the batteries for places like Napanee?
oh, wait, global warmin’ gonna solve all that !! . . . . soooo why are the lefties *against* agw?
“A decade-old goal to get at least half a million electric cars on Canada’s roads by the end of 2018”
By-the-bye, who was Prime Minister when this particular goal was created? Asking for a friend.
I don’t care if folks drive gas, diesel, natural gas, propane, hydrogen, or electric powered vehicles.
Though I am optimistic of hydrogen’s future, and do like the idea of topping up a natural gas powered vehicle in the garage when needed.
The idea of mass transportation being available as a one solution fits all, and subsidies for everyone is obviously flawed, as shown by sales of electric vehicles without subsidies, and the craters of debt the gov’t are already carrying.
Jay Leno drove a new Mercedes fully electric SUV a few days ago, saying that he’s been waiting for Mercedes to jump on the electric vehicle bandwagon, as it’s not real until Mercedes is doing it.
The Mercedes rep. said that within 2 years, Mercedes will have electric versions of all vehicles in its lineup. 20? – 40? new electric vehicles…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKBmlfscKoo
https://www.mercedes-benz.ca/en/eq-electric-cars
Mercedes has been making electric smart cars and b-classes for years.
By electric do you mean pure ev or phev? Huge difference.
And what will the sales volume be?
As indicated in the above comment from me, “Jay Leno drove a new Mercedes fully electric SUV a few days ago” (the first of its type in the USA). There isn’t any other means of propulsion in that vehicle, so “fully electric” = fully electric.
I don’t know what Mercedes’ sales volumes will be, they’ve never told me, though they have some shareholders to answer to. Jay said a couple of times in his video, when Mercedes jumps in, that means it’s real. And note, what they’ve said is they’ll be producing “electric only” versions of their various gas/diesel products. I assume some vehicles will be available as gas versions, diesel versions, or electric versions, and NOT gas/electric or diesel/electric versions.
They’re not in the business of producing failed products. VW group have also indicated they’ll be making the switch to a mostly “electric” future… I think their timeline in that is the next decade, 2020 – 2030, perhaps by pricing electric versions competitively they’ll be pushing that electric only future as a set eventuality.
I don’t care how people get to work, buy groceries, ect… Only that subsidizing everything will blow up the already titanic sized debt the first world countries are carrying.
If they’re not competitive, it should fail without gov’t wading into it. In areas of Canada, I doubt the viability of electric battery powered vehicles for some months of winter. People are not going to walk to work when the actual temp reaches -30 if their vehicle will only drive for 3 blocks.
As per the link i posted above MB sold 1300 Smart EVs and 120 MB B-series EVs.
No doubt they will offer pure EVs like so much green tinsel but they will be poor sellers. And MB has had made lots of mistakes / money-losers in the past – the R series most recently and of course there was that whole Chrysler debacle…
I can believe it. The head of finance for a major German parts maker said he expects all German auto makers to start curtailing development of internal combustion platforms by 2023. And of course they have the whip of the government to ensure they get it done. The only question is will all those brands go bankrupt developing these new lines?
That does it! I’m gonna start driving one of these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv3LNNwSx6M
Electric cars are rich men’s toys, playing the role horses do for their trophy wives. They are both extremely expensive and (in 2019) utterly impractical as modes of transportation.
The difference is that our masters assure us that in the future, everybody will have an electric car, when everyone knows that in the globalist brave new world, they’ll expect you to be grateful to have a horse.
Kate said: “Falling 80% short of their targets didn’t stop their pimps in media from torquing the headlines.”
Kate, you nailed it with that comment. Absolutely nailed it. Astute. Brilliantly correct. Those headlines tell you everything you need to know about the blatant dishonesty of the green racket and their enablers in the media.
When the story came out and I could only shake my head when I saw the headlines.
Another “soaring” headline from Cleantech Canada:
https://www.plant.ca/general/electric-car-sales-soaring-but-canada-still-far-off-goal-set-in-2009-180536/?custnum=1116881&title=Engineering+Specialist&utm_source=CTECH&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=190108N
It is obvious they everybody just cuts and pastes a press release.
Keep in mind too that every single 1%’er driving their 100K Tesla today is using the roads tax free. Think about that next time you see one.
Let’s make the 1% gift list shall we?
1. Free parking in many cities
2. Parking spaces that are often closer to buildings than even the handicap spots (I have seen this many many times)
3. Free charging in many locations and places of work
4. Free use of the roads because they are not paying a single cent in gas taxes
5. Large taxpayer funded subsidies for vehicle purchase
6. Use of high occupancy vehicle lanes even with one person in the car
What other goodies am I missing that are handed to these virtue signaling hypocrites?
Amazing what the promise of taxpayers money and a Urnalism degree can do.
Those headlines are perfect and if I could be bothered to check, i am sure the content will also be identical.
Propaganda is real easy when you own the Presstitutes.
If reelected Trudeau Two will push for ;”A made in Canada electric car”
To “provide jobs” at the shutdown GM plants.
All the Dippers,Greens and progressive conservatives will cheer.
Related: Anchorage gets a EV changing station.
https://www.ktva.com/story/39721226/anchorage-gets-new-electric-vehicle-charging-station
One of the things that has always troubled me about EVs is that in North America, in nearly every jurisdiction, electricity prices are controlled by utility commissions which are entirely creatures of government. And these commissions have enormous power.
Here in BC for example the BC Utilities Commission forced on electricity customers a highly punitive two-tier rate structure, at the behest of the government (Clark Liberals no less), supposedly to “save electricity” under the BC government green initiative. It was an utterly asinine decision considering that nearly all our electricity comes from hydro, but it remains in place to this day despite heavy opposition which the utilities commission flat out ignored.
Cars represent one of the greatest forms of freedom we have today. Why in the hell would anyone want the fuel supply and fuel pricing for their car to be entirely controlled by the government? I am not saying the oil and refinery business is a truly free market, but it sure as hell is far more free than electricity markets.
The government doesn’t regular the price of oil or gasoline, but almost everywhere it regulates the price of electricity, and if you think they regulate it in a manner that leads to fair and competitive prices, dream on. Likewise if you think those supplying the electricity have any motivation to lower prices, keep dreaming.
If we all went to EVs a major pillar of our freedom would effectively be gone. I don’t believe that is an exaggeration.
“The government doesn’t regular(regulate?) the price of oil or gasoline…”
Yes, it does. MOST of the price you pay at the pumps is taxes. Taxes are a government regulatory tool, have been so for millennia.
Oz, regulating electricity prices and taxing gasoline to (ostensibly) pay for roads are two fundamentally different things. And until recent times, governments have not tried to influence gasoline consumption through taxation, they simply wanted the tax dollars.
Electricity is an entirely different commodity than oil and gasoline with regards to how it is treated by government.
China seems to be adopting EVs successfully. From the Daily Mail.
The high-tech hub of Shenzhen in southern China announced at the start of this year that 99 per cent of the 21,689 taxis operating in the city were electric. Last year, it still had 7,500 gasoline-powered taxis on the roads. A few can still be found, but electric ones far outnumber them.
The metropolis of 12.5 million is the second to achieve this feat in China and the largest. The northern China city of Taiyuan, with a population of 4.3 million, has had only electric taxis since 2016.
So two cities with half the population of Canada have gone for EVs for their taxi needs.
That is so cool. Especially the part where these cars are all coal powered. Say…, did you see those massive graveyards the PRC has for all of those bicycles they put out on the streets for sharing and keeping energy usage down?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/25/chinas-bike-share-graveyard-a-monument-to-industrys-arrogance
Yeah. Can you IMAGINE the coal energy it took to manufacture all that steel and rubber? Now imagine how much energy it’ll cost to shred all that rubber and melt all that steel to repurpose it. SOOO cool. Go China!/
So some Chinese entrepreneurs made bad investments and are now scrapping the unused bikes, that doesn’t change the growing use of EVs. Where are all the VHS tape rental businesses like Blockbuster now? Remelting steel uses way less energy than making it from raw ore.
As for coal power it’s easier to capture emissions at the generating plant than in a vehicle’s exhaust system
The bicycles are being scrapped because people didn’t want to use them. People do have to use taxis. China is a communist state, it totally controls the taxi market. The fact that the Chinese communist State is dictating an ever increased portion of the taxi market be EV, for now as they did with bicycles, does not translate into free enterprise North America’s taxi market or private vehicle purchase choices being similar or analogous. But go right ahead and invest in EVs yourself Mr. Ottridge and while you’re at it invest in the PRC too.
I know that the Chinese people themselves are investing offshore.
“As for coal power it’s easier to capture emissions at the generating plant than in a vehicle’s exhaust system”
Yes, that is true. But it is irrelevant. Why?
Because China builds 50 coal fired power plants a month using 1950s technology.
They are not capturing emissions at the generating plant. We do. The Chinese do not.
steve, look up context in the dickshonary, then go to walliesmart and see if you buy, yer damn short on yer supply of it!!!
Due to its subtropical climate, Shenzhen weather is mild with plenty of sunshine and rainfall all year round. Summer in this city usually lasts for as long as 6 months, but without being overly hot. In comparison, winter is very short and not cold at all. With an average temperature of 22 C (72 F) on average, Shenzhen has a long mild summer and short relatively warm winter.
Located in Southern Manitoba, Winnipeg endures very cold and occasionally rather brutal winter temperatures. The combination of very low temperatures and high windspeed is dangerous – and can be life threatening. The mean annual temperature in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada is very cool at 2.4 degrees Celsius (36.3 degrees Fahrenheit). The coldest month (January) is very cold having an average temperature of -18.3 degrees Celsius
Taiyuan has a warm temperate continental monsoon climate with an average annual temperature of 9.3C (48.7F). It has sufficient sunshine but little rainfall. The climate of winter, averaging a temperature of -7C (44.5F)
It is so much colder in canada. It makes a huge difference on viability of battery powered cars. Then compare air quality and environmental pollution between Canada and China.
Still waiting for my Flying Car.
I guess there just aren’t enough wealthy people vain enough to buy a subsuduzed vanity vehicle.
if he is re-elected, I predict that Turdeau will introduce a vehicle pollution tax for all ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles. 4 cylinders = $1000/year; 6 cylinders = $2000/year; and 8 cylinders = $5000/year.
Oh and GST will be charged on top of this!
And then there’s this:
https://hackaday.com/2019/01/08/goodbye-chevy-volt-the-perfect-car-for-a-future-that-never-was/
ha ha !!!
ya, ol’ ma GM great track record forecasting things eh?
are they still ‘too big to fail’? aka ‘what’s good for GM is good for the economy’.
If 1/2 the vehicles in North America / Europe / China switch to electricity, how deep will the oil price crater?
and will the citizens of the Middle East oil dependencies starve?
Oh! there’s the rub!
The government gives $2000 to $8000 of our hard earned tax dollars to those who buy electric cars.
if they did not PAY people to buy electric cars, very few people would buy electric cars
but either way we should not have to pay for other people’s cars
it makes as much sense as giving thousands of dollars of our hard earned tax dollars to people who want to use an antenna instead of cable tv
why should we pay part of their purchase???