The Sound Of Settled Science

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There are too many polar bears in parts of Nunavut and climate change hasn’t yet affected any of them, says a draft management plan from the territorial government that contradicts much of conventional scientific thinking.

 

The proposed plan — which is to go to public hearings in Iqaluit on Tuesday — says that growing bear numbers are increasingly jeopardizing public safety and it’s time Inuit knowledge drove management policy.

 

“Inuit believe there are now so many bears that public safety has become a major concern,” says the document, the result of four years of study and public consultation.

 

24 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. According to the tree huggers the polar bears are supposed to be extinct by now.i hope someone tells them they should be overjoyed

    1. That’s easy: after eating Santa and his elves, the polar bears were able to swim ashore and celebrate. Instant population bomb … all caused by global warm …, er, make that Climate Change(TM) … that way we’re covered either way.

    2. Ken, It states in the article,the U of A expert says the bears are being driven inland due to the rapidly disappearing ice cap, which is due to Climate Change,aka Global warming.

      “Polar bears killed two Inuit last summer.” (Important note: were they Liberal voters?)

      How utterly racist of the “southern scientists to think that THEY with their dozens of degrees up the a$$ know the situation better than the people who live there all year around and were born and raised in the Arctic.

      The Inuit have been warning everyone who’d listen that the polar bears were NOT decreasing and were in fact increasing, for over 25 years that I know of, but the msm has always downplayed their stance due to ..what…….racism, snobbery of the “intellectual” classes? Or is it that it just doesn’t fit with their phony narrative?

      1. How utterly racist of the “southern scientists to think that THEY with their dozens of degrees up the a$$ know the situation better than the people who live there all year around and were born and raised in the Arctic.

        So “indigenous knowledge” is used only when it suits the purposes of the left, such as blocking a pipeline.

  2. I find it shocking that Constant Trudeau Vision is actually reporting this. I have heard similar claims from residents in Churchill, MB. Queue up the next Trudeau apology tour.

    1. Put me down for one licence.
      I have one wall in the house I just cannot come with any inspiring ideas…..

  3. Great news, unless your university job relies on fear mongering to keep the grant $$ rolling in.

    Derocher, like thousands of other academics, would be out of work if it were not for CAGW the-sky-is-falling mantra. Derocher must keep warning us of a decline in PBs or he’ll get pensioned out and be frying chicken next week.

    When I was on the Boothia Penn in 2014, the elders told me there are a lot of PBs and they had interfered with a recent on-shore whale butchering. They needed armed guards to get the work done. The community I visited had tags for 25 PBs annually.

  4. “This is very frustrating for Inuit to watch … We do not have resources to touch bases with movie actors, singers and songwriters who often narrate and provide these messages”.

    The Inuit have summed it up nicely.

  5. Indigenous peoples going against the grain of CAGW versus cuddly poley-bears the poster animal for CAGW. Who will win?

    Please stand by…

  6. Andrew Derocher, a University of Alberta polar bear expert, is blunter.

    “That’s just plain wrong,” he said. “That’s been documented in many places now — not just linked to body condition but reproductive rates and survival.”
    ———————————
    A university polar bear expert, from his warm and comfy office in Edmonton, Alberta, claims the Inuit are wrong because they are seeing more polar bears entering their community. I wouldn’t trust this guy to walk my dog.

  7. Possibly the polar bears are not dying off due to the decrease in sea ice (most noteworthy 2006 to 2015 with a recent swing back towards higher levels), but are instead adapting by moving inland more frequently. I’ve come to the conclusion that with climate change, it’s not always the current facts that are in dispute so much as the assumptions about consequences, since those are more likely to show a political bias (in this case, the emotional appeal of the prospect of an iconic species going extinct, whereas in truth the iconic species has a different outcome in mind).

    Still, the Inuit are cute, and if they go extinct … time to change the narrative.

    It’s interesting to note that in the central arctic islands at Resolute, this was one of the three or four coldest summers since they began observations in the late 1940s. This cold anomaly then shifted south as most readers in western Canada will already know. Looks like perhaps the “quiet Sun” is gaining the upper hand over AGW as predicted by quite a few non-establishment meteorologists. Now that el Nino has entered the ring as well, the winter ahead will be subject to some big oscillations between the Pacific warmth and the arctic chill which is a bit stronger than usual at this point. Maybe polar bears will re-adapt and show up in your town next. 🙂

  8. Wait a minute. If there is an increase in polar bears and “bears are being driven inland due to the rapidly disappearing ice cap, which is due to Climate Change,aka Global warming”, were there actually lots of polar bears before but they were wandering around on the ice somewhere. If polar bears were going extinct there wouldn’t be very many to be driven inland. Why would any self-respecting polar bear want to be out on the ice anyway? The food is on the land or close to it. Is the problem now that there are too many polar bears or that there are too many polar bears eating people? And exactly how many apex predators is the right amount? So many questions.

    1. Polar bears are “out on the ice” when their preferred food is out on the ice, i.e. when the seals are out there, swimming under the ice to get their food and coming up through breathing holes that they maintain, to breathe and to rest on the ice. The bears fatten up on seals so they can survive the hunger when the ice diminishes with the season. Then the bears must move ashore and forage a more varied but much reduced diet from birds’ nests, carrion, weakerer polar bears, people. (Polar bears don’t hunt people in particular, they hunt everything and anything in general.)

  9. Yes, for the thumb suckers it is something different every week. In the 70s, it was New York will be under ice, then in the new millennium, New York will be under water, then we had the polar bears will be extinct if we don’t do something like tax the sh*t out of everyone, then it was Russia, Russia, make room for the ugly Stormy, Stormy, now Russia, Russia again, and finally finish off with there are too many polar bears because of global warming.

    I’m sure sure someone could do a better job of dressing up my above paragraph with proper English and the many examples of thumb sucking soothers I missed.

    These world government globalist wealth redistributors totalitarians make me want to puke.

  10. There is a reason that these fluffy critters are scientifically named: “Ursus Marinus”.

    These seal-munchers are also widely distributed across northern Russia, even featuring in various local flags and totems. There is some geographical significance to the term “Arctic CIRCLE”; Mercator has a lot to answer for.

    I am quite glad that we have no equivalent here in Oz. We’ll just stick to our little collection of some of the world’s deadliest spiders and snakes, oh, and Koalas.

    1. Funny. Iceland is also happy that they don’t have Polar Bears. In fact, on the occasion a polar bear finds its way to Iceland (on an ice flow or whatever), the Icelandic government had it killed. The ferocious predators are not welcome there.

  11. Obviously polar population estimates involve a lot of guesswork but alarmist scientists have a bad habit of choosing the CAGW narrative and ideology over good science. Susan Crockford has been saying the official estimates are too low for years and years. Now the Inuit are saying the same thing. I’d say the balance of probabilities are on the Inuit side.

    Besides if you have to choose between the life of a human or polar bear, the answer is obvious. Most rural people circumvent government regulations when necessary. In the words of Ralph Klein- shoot, shovel and shut up.

  12. I’d suggest that Lieberal Politicians be sent up north to help feed the polar bears but I’ve heard that even a hungry bear couldn’t stomach them.

  13. Too many Polar bears blows the global warming narrative out of the ice. Hopefully, people south of Nunavut hear too many bears means it’s not getting hotter but colder.

    Though Nunavut Government bureaucrats and MLA’s parrot the Feds…climate change, climate change, climate change narrative. And Nunavut Government allows as if WWF is Nunavut Government, un-elected environmental voice.

    But at same time Nunavut Gov is saying too many bears. Nunavut Government caught in their own Cognitive dissonance making. NTI, QIA, KivIA, KitIA (Inuit Orgs) ditto.

    Nunavut (Arctic) is getting deep-freezing cold year after year. Ice growing earlier each fall, thus making it easier for polar bears to get out on the ice.

    Guess now the technocracy bureaucrats, scientists and environmental activist will declare an all-out climate-change polar bear propaganda war towards the Nunavut Government. Will it become too much for the Nunavut Government? Who’ll cave and go against its own people, squashing the Inuit voice of reason, reality?

    Thus technocracy, climate change lives, and world zombies cheer for a carbon tax saving the polar bears.

  14. Having them listen as Endangered was Political not scientific and most likely they went to the schools with pictures of drowning Polar Bears the Eco-Wackos are always appealing to the school kids brainwashed with this SAVE THE POLAR BEAR stuff the same with Plastic soda straws

  15. Polar Bear numbers have been recovering nicely since hunting was severely limited back in the (1970s?). The notion that ice levels are causing ______ (fill in the blank) is asinine. PBs rely on ice flows in the spring for hunting seals. Not in the winter, not in the summer. In fact, most large PB die offs are a result of too much spring ice. So what does the data show for spring ice volumes in the arctic? Very little change. All the doomsayers continually use the annual sea ice volume minimum (mid September) to ‘prove’ to use that the ice is disappearing, and that the PB will all die. Turns out that number is irrelevant to PBs.

    Second point. PB survived much warmer periods in earth’s history. So warm that scientists believe there was an ice free arctic. PB survived that, but we are told that they can’t survive now. All this propaganda is clearly non-scientific.

    Final point. Arctic Sea Ice coverage has been slowly gaining since a low in 2012. 6 years doesn’t make a climate trend, but to claim that ice levels are continuing to plumet is just more FAKE News

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