Doug Ford will be sworn in and that will change everything for Justin Trudeau, including the court battle over the carbon tax.
These legal fights between governments can often take years but the 2019 election campaign will be underway by this time next year. Would you want to be one of the 80 Liberal MPs from Ontario seeking re-election by telling voters your plan is to make life more expensive for them?
Trudeau and his greedy, incompetent Libranos are soon going to have a new cash cow to milk. His tariffs on U.S. products are a federal tax charged to / paid by the buyer of those products. Tariffs produce federal revenue EXCEPT they are not visible like the GST/PST/HST is visible on your bill; the tariff’s cost is buried in the buying price and then the GST/PST/HST is also charged = a tax on a tax! Groper Sparklesocks is “punishing Trump” by raking in more federal revenue via his tariffs. WE are soooooo screwed.
How do you think he expects to pay for the 60 year old pipeline?
I actually have no objection to tariffs. Everything the federal government has any business doing could be financed just with the proceeds of a tariff on imported goods.
Those who buy goods cheaply made in China are buying bullets for Chinese soldiers to shoot our children with, and atomic bombs to destroy our cities with. Make them pay our share of the defense of the north American continent—including the Mexican Wall.
A hundred years after we have removed, once and for all time, the ability of Islam and China to make war on us—i.e. reduced their populations to levels easily moved on to reserves to make room for settlers from the civilized world—maybe free trade will be an option.
Till then, accept that a government’s job is to ensure that the nation can fight wars, and win them, and so what it can to ensure its enemies cannot do likewise.
Our real problem is that Justin either hasn’t figured this out or isn’t on Canada’s side.
Hardcore. Nice.
Of course Justin isn’t on Canada’s side, he made that quite clear during the election campaign. He called Canada a post-national Country, just a small part of the big world wide socialist utopia.
Big problem is he thinks he’s the best thing to ever happen to Canada, and second best only to Obama.
Justin isn’t unique in his generation, the universities churned out millions like him. You could probably just pick a name from any college graduating class from 1967 onward and put that person in Justin’s place, with exactly the same result.
As to what Justin has figured out, apparently not much.
“like” …
“I actually have no objection to tariffs. ”
Yes you demonstrate your usual debt of understanding.
You do realize that tariffs work both ways and reduce Canada’s ability to sell our products abroad and thus make us poorer? Or is that too hard to follow?
Tariffs add to the cost of goods YOU buy. You are the one paying, not the producer.
Hello?
Hey, we have to protect the Newfie Orange Juice Industry!
Just listening to the news this morning – the liberals are after offshore unpaid taxes the rich (like Morneau) have been avoiding. The liberals plan to spend $400,000,000 to hire auditors to get this money. They calculate they are losing something like $4,000,000,000 per year in lost ‘revenue’ from the $240,000,000,000 in investments hidden overseas. Liberal logic. They could spend nothing, and just change the tax code so that it would be beneficial for these people to bring $240,000,000,000 back to Canada and invest it here. Too f’ing stupid to live.
The government could eliminate most CO2 emissions by moving to nuclear power and taxing SUVs and trucks that are used as commuter vehicles. But instead they only increase taxes and then offer “incentives”. People seem happy with the government giving a little bit of their money back to them.
Only if they fix the roads first, some of us need trucks to navigate locally, I bottomed out my 4X4 in a pothole this week, we get potholes 4 feet across and at least 1 foot deep, in paved roads no less.
Eliminate most CO2 emissions by moving to nuclear power and taxing SUVs and trucks that are used as commuter vehicles?
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You certainly would eliminate CO2 emissions that way, because the economy would totally collapse.
Two questions:
For what possible reason would you want to eliminate CO2 emissions?
How does a nuclear power station provide power for SUVs and trucks?
Electricity. I suggest you read up on nuclear power. Nuclear reactors produce heat which produces steam which drives turbines which drive generators. That is usual. There is absolutely no reason for a nuclear economy to be ineffective. The statement “You certainly would eliminate CO2 emissions that way, because the economy would totally collapse” is uninformed. Rather than waste my time, and the time of other SDA readers, I would suggest you do some reading on nuclear power before discussing this further.
For what possible reason would you want to eliminate CO2 emissions?
For what possible reason would you want to eliminate CO2 emissions?
To make Canada colder?
Steve, Canada produces less than 2% of the CO2 in the world and CO2 is not a problem anywhere in the world.
Quite so.
It doesn’t take much to make half-retards happy.
That of course was exactly what President Trump did. Your liberals don’t even have to figure anything out. They could just see how well it is working and copy it.
Its funny how McKenna states the carbon tax is clearly within the jurisdiction of the feds yet, the pipeline – in the national interests – is something they won’t enforce.
Like spunk in a whorehouse, they’re all over the place.
The carbon tax would set a bad precedent for the Federal Government. If they have the jurisdiction to tax natural resources (in the form of a carbon tax) then they also have the jurisdiction to tax natural resources on behalf of First Nations that are looking for a share in Canada’s resources. That would be an interesting legal case.
Could someone please explain to me how paying a charge (tax) on a perceived problem that is not caused by man will solve this problem and in the process change the weather patterns in the world ? Just wondering Steve O
Steve, it is not about the climate, never has been. It is about redistributing the wealth of the west, reducing our standard of living to subsistence levels, and imposing Marxism, as well as ultimately open borders.
The IPCC/UN leadership has told us so. The cozy relationship between Trudeau, the actual PM Butts, and George Soros is the clue in Canada.
And don’t kid yourself, a $300/tonne carbon tax will reduce your standard of living in a big way, in fact to a subsistence level.
Steve, lets pretend it is about the climate. Paying a tax on carbon-based energy would lower the energy used. That would lower the carbon emitted by humans burning fossil fuel and in turn would keep the human influence on global temperatures to a minimum. That’s the theory. The practice has been to use the threat of climate change to increase taxes.
Think about cap and trade, for example. Why does Ontario have to buy carbon credits from California? Why do private individuals need to make money buying and selling carbon credits? The government could easily put a cap on businesses and then tax them directly for the excess carbon they emit. No need to pay California $400 million. The money would go directly to the government (the taxpayer’s pocket – in theory). Instead, cap and trade will only benefit a small group of people who control the trading and the government can change the rules on what qualifies as a carbon reducing investment (e.g. solar, wind etc) thereby increasing their control over the economy. Even if we are adding to world temperatures, the entire climate change movement has become a scam.
Then there is the problem of CO2 as the temperature control knob of the planet etc…we don’t know the effect and extent of CO2 on planetary temperatures. To politicians and rent seekers climate change is a perfect manufactured crisis that can never be solved.
“Steve, lets pretend it is about the climate. Paying a tax on carbon-based energy would lower the energy used.”
NOT TRUE!
Energy, especially in our society has a very inelastic demand curve. Energy consumption will NOT decrease, at least not in any meaningful sort of way. What WILL happen is people who have little disposable income will begin to sacrifice first what few pleasures they can afford, followed by other essentials in order to meet the increased costs of their energy needs.
Yes – Canada is a very large, very cold country, and we need fuel for transport and heat. We could easily use nuclear power for heating but the leftists scared us of of that – more fool us. It was a huge huge success for them; it is costing us dearly and will continue to do so.
Stupid very soon means poor in this world.
Well, in the UK fuel prices were forced up to the point that some pensioners were forced to choose between food and fuel. Killed off several thousand in a cold winter, it was estimated. This about 8 years ago.
Killed off several thousand?
You’re off by a magnitude of ten.
Avoidable deaths.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/923627/UK-health-death-cold-flu-pneumonia-stroke-heart-attack-avoidable-deaths-met-office-weather
I wonder how we will be able to afford the ten’s of thousands of third world welfare clients and how we will offset their CO2. It has been a consistent observation that Canadians are not deep thinkers or critical thinkers. The few who can and do are vastly outnumbered by the terminally stupid.
steve rock, yes we do know the effect of CO2 on climate, and the math does not add up. Try keeping up on that file if you are going to comment on it!!!
Good Luck Mr Ford.
Calgary City News June 28, 2018:
The blue bin trash ‘police’ will be coming to a ‘theatre’ near you. They want to do random spot checks in your box to ensure that you are sorting correctly, failing which, a $250 fine will be imposed on the homeowner.
( not sure if this is a warning or factual, at this point)
This will make you feel better (Not)
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/06/28/shocker-recycling-plastic-is-making-ocean-litter-worse/
Probably applies more to Europe, but all that recycling is being shipped to Asia and dumped into the nearest river. After generating all that CO2 during shipment of course.
We used to sort our recycling – paper, plastic, glass and metal. I noticed when the crew picked it up roadside that they threw everything into the same place. This went on for a few years. I guess I wasn’t the only person who noticed because eventually the policy was changed. We no longer have to sort our recycling, but we still do – for some odd reason. Paper, plastic, glass and metal all into separate blue boxes.
hmmm.
so the sol’n is to dump it ALL in the trash.
underneath the poop and scoop to prevent ‘dumpster diving’ by the bureaucraps.
always a loophole. the power tax fine bosses are too accustomed to issuing edicts from on high to think of THAT fact of life.
Agreed. You make a mistake trying to do the “socially acceptable’ thing and they fine you?! And law-makers and bureaucrats wonder why they’re so reviled.
incineration is the way to go/
I lived in the UK for some time.
Whenever councils made disposal of household waste and recycling too complicated and difficult, tipping always went sky-high.
“Tipping”? No, not the kind where you leave a gratuity. That’s British English for taking all your crap out to a quiet spot in the countryside and dumping it by the rural roadside. Walking my dog, I encountered at one time or another abandoned computer monitors, old dishwashers and even – the proverbial kitchen sink. Not to mention smelly garbage bags I wasn’t about to get too close to.
There is only one law you can count on when governments come up with clever plans: the Law of Unintended Consequences.
i sent my bins back by threatening my municipal government with a schedule of rent for placing their property on my property. My bins were collected and hauled away after a few indignant e-mails from the bureaucracy and no one has bothered me since.
The Asian people in Canada don’t recycle because they put their trash in free bags from any store that still gives them for free. The special green bags for kitchen scraps each cost 10 cents. The only time they put out their green box is in the spring or fall if they do yard work, assuming they own a house. If a city rep does any blue box spot checks they might check the Asian families black boxes for blue box items instead of blue boxes for unwanted items. If you throw out bottles that are refundable the Asians will pick through your blue box and bring these items to the bottle depot for some extra cash. Some neighbours tell or yell at them not to do this because there are none there to pick. This is especially embarrassing to hear if you are putting out your trash in the early morning in the summer. The Asians move away quickly.
The Asians will never get fined the $250 if they are not recycling.
So In other words in order to avoid the fine, don’t recycle.
For months the commenters on the q thread have been stating the reason for the steel tariffs and such stateside. The commenters and the articles on Conservative Treehouse show how truly effed Canada is with this special needs PM we have up against the titans of American business. The tide is turning, the evil is being exposed quickly and if Dimples wants to be on the right side of history he better buck up and start making a point of outing our “dancing B baseball circuit mascot” of a PM.
I know that there is no battle in Saskatchewan.
Moe won’t threaten separation.
Moe will obey rules that they are clearly not bound by.
The battle is already lost. There was never even a real single battle.
May I remind all here that Ottawa could make up the money from the carbon tax with a stiff tariff on Chinese imports—and make just as big an impact on pollution.
Pollution has not, in fact, been reduced. The factories that created it were just moved to China. You think the globalists wanted the children of Canadian workers to be well-fed and breathe fresh air for free and grow up healthy, happy, and able to compete for their brats’ spots at Harvard and Columbia? Come off it—you’ll be recommending the kids be taught how the banking system works next.
How about making it up by cutting spending?
The only way to solve Canada’s economic problems is by getting rid of deadweights on the economy.
Yes, and a good place to start would be by cutting back on all the fat pensions given to federal government employees. Some of these people are getting a pension almost equal to their working salary. Harper started it by cutting back the MP’s and PM’s pensions, time to go a lot farther.
Deadweight on the economy?
“And a good place to start would be by cutting back on all the fat pensions given to federal government employees. Some of these people are getting a pension almost equal to their working salary.” don Morris
You don’t have to CUT….Just TAX all money that is greater than the CPP Average @> 75%… Retirement is overrated that is sold to the Union membership instead of wages….Smoke it
Tariffs: The emotional National outrage MAY result in making a last Stand over an Ant Hill
GOREABLE: Ford should quickly sell all those Wynn Mills to Quebec & BC.. They love fairy tales
JMHO
As far as I’m concerned if you’re a public sector employee or a welfare recipient (public sector employee who doesn’t work) you should be stricken from the voter rolls.
The deadweights on the economy are The Fuking Federal, Provincial and Municipal Big Governments.
Ottawa could set a cap on every business in the country. You exceed the cap and you pay to the province in which you are located. This would limit CO2 emissions and bring in much needed (haha) revenue to the provinces. Or, the businesses could all stay below the cap and nobody gets any money.
CO2 is NOT polluton.
This can be the tool to destroy Trudeau – if Sche(m)er has the brains and integrity to call for its complete removal from the statutes and the decision processes of all regulatory agencies.
Only the PCs can save Trudles on this one.
I’m amused by smug libs who giggle about jurisdiction and how sockboy can force it. maybe, it’s not clear, but there is the issue of electoral politics.
But its one thing to state they have the jurisdiction, its another to actually do it and have to weather the slings and arrows that come with having to collect it.
Doug Ford ran stating that he “believes in Global Warming”, he just didn’t like Wynne’s cap and trade.
I thought that Global Warming must be a religion if it requires affirmation of belief. Ford is an adherent.
Unless he was merely mouthing the required platitudes of 2018. He kind of threw me for a loop when he said that.
Are we at the stage, like the people of the former Soviet Union, where you have to repeat the falsities even though everyone knows it is a fraud?
I’ll believe actions over words, when there are actions. For now, all we have are words which leave me skeptical.
(of course Ford was a better choice than Wynne or NDP)
Mike, re: Global Warming.
My opinion is that people intelligent enough to recognize the warmists’ anti-science fear-mongering seem to be breaking down into basically two groups. There are the ‘deniers’ who reject every claim they are told, including claims of any warming, then there are the ‘skeptics’ who openly refute all the bad science and BS rhetoric, but accept claims that some warming has occurred. With such an emotionally charged subject, after all it is the faith-based religion to many that you mentioned, I take everything I hear with a grain of salt, from any source.
As per Ford himself, I think Ontario was ripe for the picking for any competent appearing conservative to win. Doug certainly played a few golden oldies that us conservatives love to dance to, but like Harper, we will have to see him in action to see how truly ‘conservative’ he is…. or not.
I also hope Ford realizes, fair or not, that he carries the expectations of a lot of Canadian Trump supporters on his shoulders, too.
Exactly, and well said.
“Are we at the stage, like the people of the former Soviet Union, where you have to repeat the falsities even though everyone knows it is a fraud?”
Yes, Ken,we are absolutely at that stage.
Yes.
YES
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-scores-low-on-keeping-election-promises-vote-compass-survey-1.4727541
A smear story on a poll about how Ford is perceived,undoubtedly by his enemies, as NOT reliable on keeping election campaign promises.
Only fly in the ointment is Ford doesn’t take Office for a few more days,but the media will never miss a chance to post something negative about him. This article is classic “fake news”, meant to set the stage for the upcoming 24/7 attack by the unbiased media.
Global warming is a two-faced pagan god that you can’t ignore. Everyone believes in global warming and nobody wants to pay for it. So Ford can (pretend to) believe all he wants, just as long as he dismantles the system supporting it. And if he’s really smart he will introduce programs that are actually beneficial to Ontario, such as lowering electricity bills and cutting the subsidies to rent seekers.
Over the last 30 years or so here in St. John’s NL there has in fact been a slight cooling, as judged by the number of excessively hot days per year.
That is in accord with initial cooling going into the next ice age.
“Doug Ford ran stating that he “believes in Global Warming”
One can believe, and with cause, that the world is warming. The central question is, and remains, what role do humans play in this warming. Of course there are also corollaries such as “so what?”.
One thing no one can deny is that the global weather system is chaotic and not well understood.
I think most people believe in Global Warming and Cooling and Climate Change. Where the disagreement comes in is the degree that it is anthropogenic and carbon caused. Thoughtful people will not get specific and play the globalists game. I think that is what Ford elected to do.
I certainly believe in Global Warming and Cooling. In this part of the globe it’s a lot warmer now than it was six months ago, and I am keeping the furnace maintained in case it gets a lot cooler in six months. Meanwhile, far south of the equator…
Hopefully so. Climate has changed the earth was formed.
Can you imagine what the MSM reaction would have been if he’d called it pure horse sh*t? I think most politicians believe they have to sing the tune, or the media hordes will be doing everything in their power to discredit them, including flat out lying. Although, I would like some of them to display some guts and start pushing back.
Affecting the cause, no matter your belief of its origins, is what costs boocoo bucks. Hopefully fatso is just paying lip service to keep the noise of the eco-fascists down to a low roar.
To say that you believe in global warming is actually a meaningless statement, since the planet has been warming for the past 10,000 years IE: the last ice age. It will likely continue to warm up gradually for the next 10,000 years or it may not, in either case mankind will have little or nothing to do with it.
Overall, the cabinet looks good.
Only two from Toronto (including Ford).
Big Screen TV ministry abolished.
Princess Caroline exiled to francophone affairs—no actual francos in the cabinet.
As far as is publicly known, no Muslims or perverts.
Only one east Asian, Raymond Cho, handed the seniors and accessibility portfolio, where he can’t do much damage at the behest of the old country.
Ontario once again enjoys a cabinet of loyal, decent Canadians who can be trusted to govern in the interest of Canadians.
Toronto media report that he named leadership rivals to key posts, but fail to mention Tanya Granic Allen was fired from being a PC candidate by Ford, or more likely the PC party brass. She is the main reason he won the contest in the first place. He will have to move to stamp his own authority on the party never mind the back room operatives.
And Mulroney is AG not a bad post for a rookie MPP, Francophone affairs is a sideline, she being fully bilingual.
Great Cabinet … Oh, but the MSM are already crying about the lack of diversity! Too efn bad … the best should get the jobs – anywhere! Warren Kinsella has a list of good pointers for the Ford team (I like that he likes Doug) … Go Doug Go … But, man, I really wanted Tania Granic Allen to be Minister of Education.
“Lack of diversity” means nobody obviously overdue for removal from Canada, a long prison sentence for sex crimes, or both.
“make life more expensive for them”
pffft.
werked fer wynnedfarm dinnit?
the trick was to convince the ignorant masses it was’ gud fer da invyronement’.
“Message” from Prime Minister Justin Turdeau
My fellow Canadians. As we approach Canada day, I am taking this opportunity to remind you that my progressive government will meet our Paris commitments. To do this we Liberals, supported by the NDP, and Greens, will be implementing the following:
a) The Carbon Tax will be increased by $10/tonne each year until it hits $300/tonne. We have to do this so you stop heating your homes with natural gas. You can all switch to electric heating with electricity from Hydro-Quebec. Until the switch occurs the billions from this tax will be sent to the US to buy carbon credits. Of course Liberal business people will facilitate these payments).
b) Starting in 2019 we will add a $5000/year tax on all vehicles with 6 and 8 cylinder engines. We have to do this so you will stop driving and take public transit.
c) Starting in 2020 Canadian cities must embark on a 5 year plan to switch public transit to electricity. Many of you will remember trolley buses.
d) The pipeline to the west coast will be built, but first the new federal pipeline company “Pipeco” has to come up with a gender equity plan, a transgender training plan, and a plan to use labour from Quebec.
e) We will nationalize the oilsands so that the benefits of the oilsands will pass to all Canadians (especially Quebec) and not just stay in selfish Alberta.
f) We will be launching a new company to build solar powered dirigibles. This will allow us to phase out airplane travel in Canada. These airships will be built in Quebec.
My principle private aide Butthead will help steer these progressive measures through parliament.
sincerely in social justice,
your Dear Leader
Justin
Good analysis. It’s hard to overstate the downside of the Ford victory for Jughead. Slapping around Alberta and Saskatchewan to troll for votes elsewhere has been largely consequence free for the Liberals and their entourage. But as Lilley points out there are 80 Liberal seats in Ontario. It will be fun to watch the Liberals squirm as they do the dance trying to reimpose Wynne’s painful energy taxes on Ontario families. Complete with smug but self-damaging finger wagging from Jughead’s ridiculous global warming minister.
Together with the carbon pricing meltdown, Jughead’s bungling of the Trump file, mounting deficits, and floods of migrants things are looking bad for the Liberals.
My only fear is that Gerald Butts may order a snap election in the fall before things get even worse.
I am not certain how a tax on Carbon (I think it means CO2 or Carbon Dioxide) will do anything to affect our climate. Consider the following properties of CO2:
It is a trace gas comprising .04% of our atmosphere or 1 molecule in 2500;
the band of wavelengths that absorbs long wave blackbody infrared radiation(LWIR) from the earth are centered tightly around 15 microns, which according to Planck equations corresponds to a temperature of -80 deg. C;
The emissivity of CO2 (Prof. Hoyt C. Hottel of MIT) is 0.002, which means .02% of the LWIR radiation in the 15 micron band is absorbed and re-emitted by CO2.
It looks as though only Antarctic could benefit for CO2 warming.
Anyway, I am at a loss.
Nice post, Poindexter. Unfortunately it contained a pantload of methane, a truly fun gas.
I dropped off 8-10 cans of old paint yesterday at the recycling bin and asked the attendant what they did with it. His response, they pick it up when the bin is full and dump it in the land fill. Sounds about right for a NDP Govt. program.
LOL !!!
I got my poli sci degree from McMaster U in Steeltown aka Hamilton.
there was a scandal when sumbuddy spotted the trash wagon pick up said trash in the wee hours, heave ho over the cab and into the back.
move on, what’s next? ah, all that paper for recycling.
heave ho over the cab and into the back, carry on.
GTA & Historybuff
In South New Jersey the EPA was collecting Fluids from Garages (dressed In Has-Mat suits) and dumping it into a Tanker truck in their Yard… The Tanker Truck was mysteriously always empty and none of the workers knew how or why…The workers contacted the FBI & they followed the EPA Director driving the Truck across the Betsy Ross bridge to PA.. He was dumping it in the PA landfill.. He was arrested and charged , but defended himself with EPA policy documentation…The FBI & MSM dropped the Story, but the practice continued. The swamp is deep when Jobs are the only redeeming issue….
He probably improved the quality of the PA landfill too.
Three Billion Asians don’t have to do jack shit about their “carbon pollution” but No Time McKenna and her Ass-grabbing Prime Adulterer want to make our food, clothing, transportation, heat and shelter more and more expensive Every Year for 37 million Canadians.
Everyone on their side is traitorous scum.
Buddy,
Well put.
” Three Billion Asians Don’t have to do Jack….. ”
Versus ” 37 million Canadians…”
They must think we’re really stupid.
They know we are really stupid, actually the whole world does.
Davis, yes, and we’d be better off not admitting to being Canadian. This gov is shameful …..
More importantly, there are two storms that the Liberals do not have, I believe, the smarts/capabilities to deal with:
The Carbon tax rejection by Ontario and Saskatchewan
The “NAFTA” dealings.
Ignoring the Brainless Boy, who isn’t a player, the government is run by the same people that brought you McGuilty and Wynning. In a small, controlled, one-issue world, they can be ideological and raise debt to cover their mistakes. On a larger playing field, their batting is weak and pitching is predictable.
Expect many spinning plates to be dropped.
The big Dust up will come @ the NATO Meeting…Trump is loaded for the EU/UN and It’s not a coincidence that Putin is next…
Don’t be surprised if the USA & Russia withdraw from the UN (Useless Nations) meddling piss-ant bastards….