Because they wouldn’t want you silly Canadians getting any ideas.
h/t Larry
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Hope Poland stands fast and never admits muslims to their country. This cancer destroys anything it touches and of course Poland would be wise to be suspicious of Germany. I still have no understanding why Merkel and the rest of Europe are ignoring their citizens and destroying their lives and country.
Watching the wedding yesterday and Britain’s pageantry, which is second to none, it will be an incredible tragedy when the muslims ruin this history of freedom.
A courageous and patriotic statement — Hungarians alone must decide who gets to stay in Hungary. It takes courage to buck the character assassination, the cheap accusations, that will be flung by the self-righteous adherents of today’s left-wing social-justice religion. The lefties have no conscience or decency and thus feel free to malign other people’s motives and make the most scurrilous attacks they can think of.
“Hungarians alone must decide who gets to stay in Hungary.”
That’s not how a free country works. Countries are not clubs.
“That’s not how a free country works.”
Sure it is. The people inside the country get to decide who to let in and who to keep out. When people outside a country decide who lives in it, that is called an “invasion.”
Furthermore, Hungary is not just a country, it is an ethnic homeland. Hungarians are the people who live there. Just like Japan is where the Japanese live. No one seems to think it odd when the Japanese decline to allow mass immigration to their island, why is Hungary any different?
Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country. That’s just coercive collectivism. So is this ‘the group decides’ bullshit.
Fact is, ethnically homogenous nation states are obsolete and mostly a thing of the past.
Fine. Then simply run your welfare system like Hungary, where needy immigrants receive a whopping €80/mo. Upon learning this … the economic migrants , er, “immigrants” promptly depart for Germany, England, or Sweden.
I am sincerely hoping that the American Somali … community … is learning of Canada’s generous (more generous than Trump’s) welfare and FREE medical care system.
As they say the best way to survive a Lion attack … is to just be FASTER than the guy next to you. MY President is running away from making it lucrative for immigrants coming to America. The dullard running Canada isn’t quite so fast … in every connotation of the word.
Your retard president is making America less lucrative for everyone. Economic growth continues to be subpar, trillion dollar deficits. But he indulged your myopia towards brown people so all’s good.
Except for Japan, the Koreas, much of Asia and Africa …
In fact, the idea of political multiculturalism and tolerance of others is almost uniquely Western.
Why is it that when Japan rigidly controls its immigration process, it’s just Japan being Japan but if Orban bandies about the idea of not picking up western Europe’s unvetted immigration slack, he is being dreadfully difficult and bigoted?
“Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country.”
It’s the original basis.
“Fact is, ethnically homogenous nation states are obsolete and mostly a thing of the past.”
Tell that to China. And Korea, Japan, Vietnam… Russia…
Aahh, the penny finally drops. It’s you, Justin, that’s trolling us. Come on, admit it.
“Tell that to China. And Korea, Japan, Vietnam… Russia”
All of those countries are vastly less free and prosperous than diverse countries. Japan is literally dying off. Same with Russia. China will allow lots of immigrants in because their one child policy kneecapped them.
“It’s the original basis.”
An obsolete one. Gone the way of the dodo, or on its way. Remember: countries are just chunks of territory. That’s all.
“Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country. ”
Fortunately it is not for you to decide. Also in case you haven’t noticed majority of the world is divided along ethnic lines. Funny how libtards like you only see a problem when white people want it.
“Your retard president is making America less lucrative for everyone.”
Yes of course, if he only brought in more Haitians, Somalians, Nigerians, spiced them up with a little MS-13 and added a few Paleosimians, and perhaps a Pakistani rape gang to the mix, the country would be oh so much more attractive…
UnMe that is exactly how SOVEREIGN nations get to operate; SOVEREIGN nations decide who can come and stay and those who go.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has blamed Soros, a Hungarian-born US financier, for a host of ills and is planning to tighten a crackdown on non-governmental organisations (NGOs) under legislation dubbed the “Stop Soros” bill.
senior minister in Orban’s new government said on Monday that Hungary would tighten the bill on non-government groups following the ruling party’s big election victory last month, a move likely to dismay the European Union and rights groups.
Hungary’s conservative-populist premier Viktor Orbán has won a third term in office in a landslide election victory.
With the votes counted, Europe Elects is sharing stats which show Fidesz, the party founded by Prime Minister Orbán while he was a young anti-Communist dissident, has won not merely a decisive majority but an outright super-majority, along with minor allied parties — allowing changes to the national constitution.
In short, PM Orban is not going to play billionaire Soros’s “bitch”, which is probably a very healthy thing.
So Poland and Hungary are’nt going to play sycophantic EU vassals to Brussels on immigration; that is called SOVEREIGNTY, you should get used to it…
Prosit!
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
Orban is a despot, and is doing despotic things. What’s new.
And you are behaving like a Soros employed shill; primping and fluffing for an ideology bereft of actual real world solutions.
Have a nice day.
Prosit!
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
un one, you sure are stupid. this is the first of your stupidities that I have read in quite awhile. You never seem to intellectually improve.
Oh no! Don’t associate me with a highly successful billionaire who funds mostly pro-freedom causes around the world!
“In short, PM Orban is not going to play billionaire Soros’s “bitch”, which is probably a very healthy thing.” Nothing probable about it, as it is a good thing. Our pm fits the bill that Orban rejects.
Yes, UnMe, that IS how a free country works.
How is Hungary – or any nation, for that matter – free if someone else decides who remains and who leaves? Do Hungarians decide their laws or don’t they?
Orban’s idea of rebuilding communities in the Middle East for people to return to them is more practical and humane. Why should Middle Eastern Christians be forced to leave the areas in which they are indigenous anyway? Because some emotionally retarded Islamist child rapists demand it? The same ones who leak into western Europe? Considering this, one surely can see why Hungary and Poland act as they do.
Freedom of association implies freedom of migration. Open immigration IS freedom. If the people of Hungary disagree, they are wrong and perhaps not fit to govern their own country. Their electoral choices for the past several elections, which alternated between socialists and fascists, would suggest just so.
“Orban’s idea of rebuilding communities in the Middle East for people to return to them is more practical and humane.”
Did this already it was called ‘nation building’ and it was horrible. I’m guessing that Orban, in addition to not cutting off the EU pogey, won’t be footing this bill either?
Hungary is a dying despotic backwater. They are literally going to be running out of people. If they had any sense they would take every migrant they can get, but they’re stupid, so Germany gets them and the resultant prosperity.
“Freedom of association implies freedom of migration” UnMe
Wrong… That “implies” that you are butt stupid. You as an individual are free to Associate with other Americans & “legal” organizations without the long Arm of the Government punishing you. I, as an individual American. am not bound by your choice, nor do I have to respect you voice….You are free to migrate anywhere you want, but that Country must agree to WANT you….The Village of Idiots may reject your membership because it would lower their average IQ
No, Hungary is a backwater country simply because you disagree with it.
Orban is not asking for nation-building but piecemeal reconstruction so that people can feel safe to return to their homes.
If freedom of association implies freedom of migration (which it does not) can anyone walk into your house at three in the morning and raid the fridge?
“piecemeal reconstruction so that people can feel safe to return to their homes”
Under a tyrant in third world conditions. Bet they can’t wait.
“If freedom of association implies freedom of migration (which it does not) can anyone walk into your house at three in the morning and raid the fridge?”
You don’t even understand the difference between a country and private property.
“You as an individual are free to Associate with other Americans”
I don’t want to just associate with ‘Americans’. Why would I? I want to import cheap foreign labour as is my right. I have better things to do than mow my own lawn.
Ever wondered if Yugoslavia’s civil war could happen elsewhere in Europe? You’re about to find out…
UnMe, I can’t believe the drivel you spout. Clearly, you have no grasp on reality whatsoever. Much like your idol, Turdeau. Maybe it’s time to come out of your mom’s basement and, shudder, get a job.
“Freedom of association implies freedom of migration. ”
100% bovine manure. Rights and freedoms apply only to citizens and to those to whom a given country is willing to extend those rights at its own discretion. No foreigner has a divine right to any freedom in a foreign country.
“Open immigration IS freedom. ”
and let me guess “Freedom is slavery” too?
“If the people of Hungary disagree, they are wrong and perhaps not fit to govern their own country. ”
Yep, like I guessed above, for Hungarians to be free they need to be governed by an outside power. Your mask is slipping little commie.
There is a NAZI within you unthing….
Convinced of that I am in 6 abysmally arrogant – totalitarian – smug comments you have posted in this thread alone.
Your verbal diharea showcases a striking resemblance to one with the intellect of a licked dry finger bowl…
You know nothing of Nationalism, Patriotism and oneness with one’s Country. Agitator – Subversive – Treasonous….All adjectives easily used to describe your ramblings.
Begone and stay begoned…capisci?
I wish countries were like clubs. A club can expel members who make themselves odious to the other members or bring the club into disrepute.
A far-sighted Canadian government should have the power to strip liberals, globalists and Muslims of their Canadian citizenship and intern them till they can convince another country to take them in.
try to immigrate or become a citizen of japan…you’re a fool
Nothing like reason, logic and facts to counter the madness of Merkel. The CBC has an agenda dictated by the LPC. The Liberal’s plan is a multi-tribal state. Enclaves of division and difference, with legal distinctions of groups, the dissolution of individual rights and liberty, a multi-tribal mess. It can only be controlled by a very powerful, intrusive state.
I believe it is now a “HATE crime” in many countries to say what you just did. Speaking of an intrusive State.
Canada has always been a multi-tribal state. That’s the problem.
The French Canadians should have been sent packing and their land opened to English settlement on day one.
As it was, the Quebec Act forcing British north America to celebrate diversity sparked the American Revolution. But for the gutlessness of a few ministers in London we could be living in a united, free and English-speaking British North America.
Trudeau merely took the idea to its logical conclusion. Recognize one minority, you may as well recognize them all. Makes it far easier to divide and rule.
Re: ”But for the gutlessness of a few ministers in London we could be living in a united, free and English-speaking British North America.”
I watched the Royal Wedding on BBC yesterday. An English Prince married to a mixed race princess and a sermon performed by a black preacher talking about love tells me that you’re a few centuries behind times. Then and now, the British savored diversity.
Too bad Trump wasn`t invited.
diversity is about to destroy England.
A nation’s duty is to its people.
It has no obligation to serve persons of other nations other than to leave them in peace.
I suspect that most of know who is the main culprit behind this effort to destroy Hungary, and the other European nation states. He also has his claws deep into Canada’s affairs. It is almost as if some want to totally destroy western liberal democracy.
This should make him, as well as a certain SDA contributor, happy:
I was born in the shadow of the Red Army. No, thank you.
Ken, that is EXACTLY what this about…
Climate Change: Forcing Western Nations to forgo cheap energy in favor of useless “renewable” that drive costs skyward to create Energy Poverty. That’s the Hamer
Population Replacement via migration and open borders…Thats the Anvil.
It’s end goal is the destruction of the Global Economic Model of the Past 150 years.
That, Quoted by Christina Figueres & Ottmar Edenhofer, both of the UN’s IPCC. To be replaced with one world Govt and old Georgie Sonos as President…if he doesn’t keel over next week.
If I were Polish, I would not trust a thing Germany had to say about Poland – ever. They tried to solve the Polish problem 75 years ago and it looks like they’re at it again.
So when are Poland and Hungary going to man up and cut those EU subsidies off? Come on guys, do it. You can blame the short-term difficulties on brown people since that’s what you do apparently.
If this was the Cold War, you would be admiring the Soviet Empire. No big surprise you are on the side of the EU.
Unme = Globalist loyalist
You really torched that strawman.
UnMe,
I’m confused, please clarify.
It seems you are saying a population should not be allowed to determine who can enter their country.
Is that really what you are saying?
If so why not?
The only valid parameters for barring someone from entering your country is if they are dangerous in some way ie contagious, criminal, a spy etc. Or if you are at war with their country (and they are still caveats to that). Everything else is a violation of freedom of movement. If you want to get rid of illegal immigration, legalize it.
Spoken by a Commie loyalist.
nah, it’s just plain stupid. Low IQ driveling idiot, hasn’t a fvcking clue about anything!!!!
They’re called “reparations.” Thanks to the Germans the Poles and Hungarians had their countries destroyed and lived under communist tyranny for forty-five years.
At least Poland and Hungry are getting what they’re owed. Israel is still waiting for more than a small fraction of the 500 billion US dollars owed to Europe’s Jews for property stolen or destroyed by the Nazis—enough to clear Israel’s entire national debt and set Israelis up with a small sovereign wealth fund.
Berlin, of course, would rather spend the money owed to the Jews on paying Muslims to come to Europe to breed like rabbits.
This is the kind of insane logic that saddled post-WW1 Germany with debt and drove it into the Nazis. Further, the Germany that sparked WW2 doesn’t even exist anymore. The Germany we have today is effectively destroyed. It’s also kinda hilarious since Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.
Are you really that stupid? Poland exisisted for eight hundred years, before it’s invasion and occupation by Prussia and Russia. I bet you also believebl there only German concentration camps in Poland and that the commies were just benovolent occupiers. You’re an effin idiot.
“It’s also kinda hilarious since Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.”
Wow, just wow. Tully a product of publik skulling.
“Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.”
Poland fought and won a war of independence against Russia, that attempted to reoccupy it post WWI.
“So when are Poland and Hungary going to man up and cut those EU subsidies off? ”
You keep asking this retarded question as if it was an argument for anything. You were already explained that it is not. But because I am feeling charitable let me explain it to you again, here it goes (you can write that one up): If Germans want to maintain their empire they have to subsidize the provinces. That is all. Explanation concluded. You can go back to stuffing crayons up your nose.
The sooner the EU collapses, the sooner the subsidies stop, the better for all concerned. Until Germans realize that, they will keep subsidizing those whose economies they have crippled with regulations designed to eliminate the competition for German products.
Sovereign nations get to decide how to run their own countries. Colonies get told what to do by their Brussel’s overlords.
Hey UnMe, what’s your address? Me and some friends want to enjoy some “freedom” at your place next weekend.
The country is not your private property.
Go try living in India. The world is a finite place. You seek all that overpopulation brings: pollution, crime, garbage, corruption, the destruction of natural habitat and plagues of disease. Good for you. Your ass is a star.
it is the property of the people, and the people decide yes or no on immigration
sorry, I sold the Harley:-((((
Based on your comments on this thread you appear to be an intellectually shriveled, uneducated, little brown person. A total waste of everyone’s time. Who let you in?
UnMe, if the purpose of your trolling is to prove how mad at dad you are, mission accomplished. Flooding this thread with your juvenile, contrary responses just proves what an idiot you are.
Your comparisons of sovereign nations with private property (and, really, why have that boundary at all?) are so laughable that it would be a waste of time to explain the difference to you as it would a comparison between your butt and a whole in the ground.
You didn’t answer whether or not countries should be expected or allowed to pass their own laws or not or how Hungary is a Third-World dictatorship and I don’t suspect that you will.
Neither Japan nor China allow in immigrants en masse but the former is free. I guess not in your skewed perspective.
Furthermore, if you’re going to insist that Europe is rolling in euros the allegedly educated illegal migrants are making, you should prove it.
Like so:
“Up to three quarters of Germany’s refugees will still be unemployed in five years’ time, according to a government minister, in a stark admission of the challenges the country faces in integrating its huge migrant population.”
“Italy boasts an unemployment rate of 11.5%, and although decreasing, it means there are still plenty Italians jobless. With several Italian government-subsidized programs coming to an end, this number may is likely to increase again during the year.
With an unemployment rate of 23.1%, Greece is still the worst off European country. Even if we look beyond the EU, there is Serbia with an unemployment rate of 13%. Surely, we cannot claim that Europe as a whole is in need of an increased supply of labour?”
and Finland, a socialist utopia has a 9-10% unemployment rate. The Unthing is too stupid to realize it s stupid. Classic example of the need for means tests for voters and a scaled vote. Tho I don’t think a scaled vote would encompass a negative value vote!!!!
The nation-state is a European concept, one of self-government. A functional nation-state requires a population of shared values and identity, transmitted by a knowledge of history.
Western Civilization’s idea of a liberal democracy, is based on the Judeo/Christian concept of the individual being sacred with moral agency responsible for good and evil. Exodus is the story of attaining freedom under moral law.
Freedom under moral law contained the corollary of political liberty under law. That being government power restrained by the Crown’s obligation to serve it’s subjects. It’s legitimacy justified by the will of the commoner, whose Rights and Freedoms preceded the government power. Being born free.
Cult. Marxism is a totalitarian variant of the Greek idea of hubris. A political elite engineers a perfect society
out of their imagination, but requires an elite (read dictatorship) a monopoly of power. This so to force the
individual to live out the ruling elite’s fantasy. One in violation of the laws of nature(e.i. evolutionary psychology in modern terms), with human rulers viewing themselves as gods.
This is also encapsulated in the Christian proverb: “The road to perdition(Hell) is paved with good intentions.”
One modern example being the Holodomor, the forced collectivization of Ukrainian farming.
Ukrainian farmers, a couple of generations away from serfdom, had quickly learned to become even more highly productive as farm owners. The Soviet Union starved out millions of some of the most productive farmers in the world. This in an attempt to prove their ideology of collectivization superior.
That political contradiction, that fact never fazed the Marxist ideologues of the U.S.S.R.
“People don’t have ideas. Ideas have people!” Prof. Jordan Peterson’s psychological observation of ideologies.
Hence also, Prof. Jordan Peterson’s proverb: The Marxists are always just one (more) murder away from utopia.
(U.S.S.R., Maoism, Cambodia’s Khmer Rouge’s killing fields, North Korea et al)
Note- both totalitarian political ideologies of Marxism and orthodox Islam reject the idea of a self-governed
nation-state. For the Marxists goal is a ruling a global dictatorship. For political Islam(orthodox) it is a
world wide Caliphate ruled by a Ayatollah/Caliph. The Iranian Revolution in 1979, was an alliance of the
Islamists and the Marxists. It didn’t turn out so well for the Marxists(shredded by machine guns, hung…).
Nationalism, the pride of our achievements and responsible self-government for our nation-state, Canada; that is the responsibility of our education system and media. It having been taken over by Cult. Marxists teaches instead Marxism, neo-pagan nature worship, post-modern identity group class conflict and actual nihilism (hatred of self, Western Civilization and humanity).
Take back the schools, replace the MSM with those loyal to Canada’s foundational principles and Canada survives as a “free and democratic society”. Then we may avoid the emerging bloody civil war much of Western and Northern Europe are facing. Or enjoy the decline.
Well said Larry. There is a whole lot of world history encapsulated in a few paragraphs. Western liberal democratic civilization is under assault from with in by the Marxist collectivists hiding under the cloak of the Sophists and Cynics and from without by a militant Islam.
Will western liberal democratic civilization collapse like the Athenian civilization and then be conquered? Events move faster today then they did during the time of the Athenian democracy. We, our children may well experience this collapse. Our grandchildren certainly will.
Hey UnMoron, could you please go any “Brown People” country of your choice and demand that they let you in because countries are not private property and clubs? Go on, pick a country and go. Just march across the border. While there also loudly proclaim that they have no right to remove you and that you being there benefits them. Don’t be shy little demented one, pack up and go.
it could pick the “country” of Africa, the borders there are as porous as a sieve, and flexible as a rubber band. And that is one of the reasons they are so successful, just like unthing’s argumentative absurd. Stupid just does not cover that fool, religious belief may tho!!!
It is amazing how an open borders, collectivist progressive troll seems to be able to hijack almost any thread.
Ken, that is because many find kicking him (in the area where men have testicles) so rewarding.
Hope Poland stands fast and never admits muslims to their country. This cancer destroys anything it touches and of course Poland would be wise to be suspicious of Germany. I still have no understanding why Merkel and the rest of Europe are ignoring their citizens and destroying their lives and country.
Watching the wedding yesterday and Britain’s pageantry, which is second to none, it will be an incredible tragedy when the muslims ruin this history of freedom.
A courageous and patriotic statement — Hungarians alone must decide who gets to stay in Hungary. It takes courage to buck the character assassination, the cheap accusations, that will be flung by the self-righteous adherents of today’s left-wing social-justice religion. The lefties have no conscience or decency and thus feel free to malign other people’s motives and make the most scurrilous attacks they can think of.
“Hungarians alone must decide who gets to stay in Hungary.”
That’s not how a free country works. Countries are not clubs.
“That’s not how a free country works.”
Sure it is. The people inside the country get to decide who to let in and who to keep out. When people outside a country decide who lives in it, that is called an “invasion.”
Furthermore, Hungary is not just a country, it is an ethnic homeland. Hungarians are the people who live there. Just like Japan is where the Japanese live. No one seems to think it odd when the Japanese decline to allow mass immigration to their island, why is Hungary any different?
Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country. That’s just coercive collectivism. So is this ‘the group decides’ bullshit.
Fact is, ethnically homogenous nation states are obsolete and mostly a thing of the past.
Fine. Then simply run your welfare system like Hungary, where needy immigrants receive a whopping €80/mo. Upon learning this … the economic migrants , er, “immigrants” promptly depart for Germany, England, or Sweden.
I am sincerely hoping that the American Somali … community … is learning of Canada’s generous (more generous than Trump’s) welfare and FREE medical care system.
As they say the best way to survive a Lion attack … is to just be FASTER than the guy next to you. MY President is running away from making it lucrative for immigrants coming to America. The dullard running Canada isn’t quite so fast … in every connotation of the word.
Your retard president is making America less lucrative for everyone. Economic growth continues to be subpar, trillion dollar deficits. But he indulged your myopia towards brown people so all’s good.
Except for Japan, the Koreas, much of Asia and Africa …
In fact, the idea of political multiculturalism and tolerance of others is almost uniquely Western.
Why is it that when Japan rigidly controls its immigration process, it’s just Japan being Japan but if Orban bandies about the idea of not picking up western Europe’s unvetted immigration slack, he is being dreadfully difficult and bigoted?
“Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country.”
It’s the original basis.
“Fact is, ethnically homogenous nation states are obsolete and mostly a thing of the past.”
Tell that to China. And Korea, Japan, Vietnam… Russia…
Aahh, the penny finally drops. It’s you, Justin, that’s trolling us. Come on, admit it.
“Tell that to China. And Korea, Japan, Vietnam… Russia”
All of those countries are vastly less free and prosperous than diverse countries. Japan is literally dying off. Same with Russia. China will allow lots of immigrants in because their one child policy kneecapped them.
“It’s the original basis.”
An obsolete one. Gone the way of the dodo, or on its way. Remember: countries are just chunks of territory. That’s all.
“Ethnicity is not a valid basis for a country. ”
Fortunately it is not for you to decide. Also in case you haven’t noticed majority of the world is divided along ethnic lines. Funny how libtards like you only see a problem when white people want it.
“Your retard president is making America less lucrative for everyone.”
Yes of course, if he only brought in more Haitians, Somalians, Nigerians, spiced them up with a little MS-13 and added a few Paleosimians, and perhaps a Pakistani rape gang to the mix, the country would be oh so much more attractive…
UnMe that is exactly how SOVEREIGN nations get to operate; SOVEREIGN nations decide who can come and stay and those who go.
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has blamed Soros, a Hungarian-born US financier, for a host of ills and is planning to tighten a crackdown on non-governmental organisations (NGOs) under legislation dubbed the “Stop Soros” bill.
senior minister in Orban’s new government said on Monday that Hungary would tighten the bill on non-government groups following the ruling party’s big election victory last month, a move likely to dismay the European Union and rights groups.
Bloody Nose for Brussels: Landslide Triumph as Anti-Globalist, Anti-Soros Orban Wins Third Term in Hungary
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/08/bloody-nose-brussels-poll-suggests-anti-globalist-anti-soros-eurosceptic-viktor-orban-wins-big-hungary-election/
Hungary’s conservative-populist premier Viktor Orbán has won a third term in office in a landslide election victory.
With the votes counted, Europe Elects is sharing stats which show Fidesz, the party founded by Prime Minister Orbán while he was a young anti-Communist dissident, has won not merely a decisive majority but an outright super-majority, along with minor allied parties — allowing changes to the national constitution.
In short, PM Orban is not going to play billionaire Soros’s “bitch”, which is probably a very healthy thing.
So Poland and Hungary are’nt going to play sycophantic EU vassals to Brussels on immigration; that is called SOVEREIGNTY, you should get used to it…
Prosit!
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
Orban is a despot, and is doing despotic things. What’s new.
And you are behaving like a Soros employed shill; primping and fluffing for an ideology bereft of actual real world solutions.
Have a nice day.
Prosit!
Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group ‘True North’
un one, you sure are stupid. this is the first of your stupidities that I have read in quite awhile. You never seem to intellectually improve.
Oh no! Don’t associate me with a highly successful billionaire who funds mostly pro-freedom causes around the world!
“In short, PM Orban is not going to play billionaire Soros’s “bitch”, which is probably a very healthy thing.” Nothing probable about it, as it is a good thing. Our pm fits the bill that Orban rejects.
Yes, UnMe, that IS how a free country works.
How is Hungary – or any nation, for that matter – free if someone else decides who remains and who leaves? Do Hungarians decide their laws or don’t they?
Orban’s idea of rebuilding communities in the Middle East for people to return to them is more practical and humane. Why should Middle Eastern Christians be forced to leave the areas in which they are indigenous anyway? Because some emotionally retarded Islamist child rapists demand it? The same ones who leak into western Europe? Considering this, one surely can see why Hungary and Poland act as they do.
Freedom of association implies freedom of migration. Open immigration IS freedom. If the people of Hungary disagree, they are wrong and perhaps not fit to govern their own country. Their electoral choices for the past several elections, which alternated between socialists and fascists, would suggest just so.
“Orban’s idea of rebuilding communities in the Middle East for people to return to them is more practical and humane.”
Did this already it was called ‘nation building’ and it was horrible. I’m guessing that Orban, in addition to not cutting off the EU pogey, won’t be footing this bill either?
Hungary is a dying despotic backwater. They are literally going to be running out of people. If they had any sense they would take every migrant they can get, but they’re stupid, so Germany gets them and the resultant prosperity.
“Freedom of association implies freedom of migration” UnMe
Wrong… That “implies” that you are butt stupid. You as an individual are free to Associate with other Americans & “legal” organizations without the long Arm of the Government punishing you. I, as an individual American. am not bound by your choice, nor do I have to respect you voice….You are free to migrate anywhere you want, but that Country must agree to WANT you….The Village of Idiots may reject your membership because it would lower their average IQ
No, Hungary is a backwater country simply because you disagree with it.
Orban is not asking for nation-building but piecemeal reconstruction so that people can feel safe to return to their homes.
If freedom of association implies freedom of migration (which it does not) can anyone walk into your house at three in the morning and raid the fridge?
“piecemeal reconstruction so that people can feel safe to return to their homes”
Under a tyrant in third world conditions. Bet they can’t wait.
“If freedom of association implies freedom of migration (which it does not) can anyone walk into your house at three in the morning and raid the fridge?”
You don’t even understand the difference between a country and private property.
“You as an individual are free to Associate with other Americans”
I don’t want to just associate with ‘Americans’. Why would I? I want to import cheap foreign labour as is my right. I have better things to do than mow my own lawn.
Ever wondered if Yugoslavia’s civil war could happen elsewhere in Europe? You’re about to find out…
UnMe, I can’t believe the drivel you spout. Clearly, you have no grasp on reality whatsoever. Much like your idol, Turdeau. Maybe it’s time to come out of your mom’s basement and, shudder, get a job.
“Freedom of association implies freedom of migration. ”
100% bovine manure. Rights and freedoms apply only to citizens and to those to whom a given country is willing to extend those rights at its own discretion. No foreigner has a divine right to any freedom in a foreign country.
“Open immigration IS freedom. ”
and let me guess “Freedom is slavery” too?
“If the people of Hungary disagree, they are wrong and perhaps not fit to govern their own country. ”
Yep, like I guessed above, for Hungarians to be free they need to be governed by an outside power. Your mask is slipping little commie.
There is a NAZI within you unthing….
Convinced of that I am in 6 abysmally arrogant – totalitarian – smug comments you have posted in this thread alone.
Your verbal diharea showcases a striking resemblance to one with the intellect of a licked dry finger bowl…
You know nothing of Nationalism, Patriotism and oneness with one’s Country. Agitator – Subversive – Treasonous….All adjectives easily used to describe your ramblings.
Begone and stay begoned…capisci?
I wish countries were like clubs. A club can expel members who make themselves odious to the other members or bring the club into disrepute.
A far-sighted Canadian government should have the power to strip liberals, globalists and Muslims of their Canadian citizenship and intern them till they can convince another country to take them in.
try to immigrate or become a citizen of japan…you’re a fool
Nothing like reason, logic and facts to counter the madness of Merkel. The CBC has an agenda dictated by the LPC. The Liberal’s plan is a multi-tribal state. Enclaves of division and difference, with legal distinctions of groups, the dissolution of individual rights and liberty, a multi-tribal mess. It can only be controlled by a very powerful, intrusive state.
I believe it is now a “HATE crime” in many countries to say what you just did. Speaking of an intrusive State.
Canada has always been a multi-tribal state. That’s the problem.
The French Canadians should have been sent packing and their land opened to English settlement on day one.
As it was, the Quebec Act forcing British north America to celebrate diversity sparked the American Revolution. But for the gutlessness of a few ministers in London we could be living in a united, free and English-speaking British North America.
Trudeau merely took the idea to its logical conclusion. Recognize one minority, you may as well recognize them all. Makes it far easier to divide and rule.
Re: ”But for the gutlessness of a few ministers in London we could be living in a united, free and English-speaking British North America.”
I watched the Royal Wedding on BBC yesterday. An English Prince married to a mixed race princess and a sermon performed by a black preacher talking about love tells me that you’re a few centuries behind times. Then and now, the British savored diversity.
Too bad Trump wasn`t invited.
diversity is about to destroy England.
A nation’s duty is to its people.
It has no obligation to serve persons of other nations other than to leave them in peace.
I suspect that most of know who is the main culprit behind this effort to destroy Hungary, and the other European nation states. He also has his claws deep into Canada’s affairs. It is almost as if some want to totally destroy western liberal democracy.
This should make him, as well as a certain SDA contributor, happy:
https://downtrend.com/donn-marten/liberal-writer-progressives-want-a-neo-marxist-dictatorship/
I was born in the shadow of the Red Army. No, thank you.
Ken, that is EXACTLY what this about…
Climate Change: Forcing Western Nations to forgo cheap energy in favor of useless “renewable” that drive costs skyward to create Energy Poverty. That’s the Hamer
Population Replacement via migration and open borders…Thats the Anvil.
It’s end goal is the destruction of the Global Economic Model of the Past 150 years.
That, Quoted by Christina Figueres & Ottmar Edenhofer, both of the UN’s IPCC. To be replaced with one world Govt and old Georgie Sonos as President…if he doesn’t keel over next week.
If I were Polish, I would not trust a thing Germany had to say about Poland – ever. They tried to solve the Polish problem 75 years ago and it looks like they’re at it again.
So when are Poland and Hungary going to man up and cut those EU subsidies off? Come on guys, do it. You can blame the short-term difficulties on brown people since that’s what you do apparently.
If this was the Cold War, you would be admiring the Soviet Empire. No big surprise you are on the side of the EU.
Unme = Globalist loyalist
You really torched that strawman.
UnMe,
I’m confused, please clarify.
It seems you are saying a population should not be allowed to determine who can enter their country.
Is that really what you are saying?
If so why not?
The only valid parameters for barring someone from entering your country is if they are dangerous in some way ie contagious, criminal, a spy etc. Or if you are at war with their country (and they are still caveats to that). Everything else is a violation of freedom of movement. If you want to get rid of illegal immigration, legalize it.
Spoken by a Commie loyalist.
nah, it’s just plain stupid. Low IQ driveling idiot, hasn’t a fvcking clue about anything!!!!
They’re called “reparations.” Thanks to the Germans the Poles and Hungarians had their countries destroyed and lived under communist tyranny for forty-five years.
At least Poland and Hungry are getting what they’re owed. Israel is still waiting for more than a small fraction of the 500 billion US dollars owed to Europe’s Jews for property stolen or destroyed by the Nazis—enough to clear Israel’s entire national debt and set Israelis up with a small sovereign wealth fund.
Berlin, of course, would rather spend the money owed to the Jews on paying Muslims to come to Europe to breed like rabbits.
This is the kind of insane logic that saddled post-WW1 Germany with debt and drove it into the Nazis. Further, the Germany that sparked WW2 doesn’t even exist anymore. The Germany we have today is effectively destroyed. It’s also kinda hilarious since Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.
Are you really that stupid? Poland exisisted for eight hundred years, before it’s invasion and occupation by Prussia and Russia. I bet you also believebl there only German concentration camps in Poland and that the commies were just benovolent occupiers. You’re an effin idiot.
“It’s also kinda hilarious since Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.”
Wow, just wow. Tully a product of publik skulling.
“Poland only ever became an independent nation state because Germany liberated it from Russia in WW1.”
Poland fought and won a war of independence against Russia, that attempted to reoccupy it post WWI.
“So when are Poland and Hungary going to man up and cut those EU subsidies off? ”
You keep asking this retarded question as if it was an argument for anything. You were already explained that it is not. But because I am feeling charitable let me explain it to you again, here it goes (you can write that one up): If Germans want to maintain their empire they have to subsidize the provinces. That is all. Explanation concluded. You can go back to stuffing crayons up your nose.
The sooner the EU collapses, the sooner the subsidies stop, the better for all concerned. Until Germans realize that, they will keep subsidizing those whose economies they have crippled with regulations designed to eliminate the competition for German products.
Sovereign nations get to decide how to run their own countries. Colonies get told what to do by their Brussel’s overlords.
Hey UnMe, what’s your address? Me and some friends want to enjoy some “freedom” at your place next weekend.
The country is not your private property.
Go try living in India. The world is a finite place. You seek all that overpopulation brings: pollution, crime, garbage, corruption, the destruction of natural habitat and plagues of disease. Good for you. Your ass is a star.
it is the property of the people, and the people decide yes or no on immigration
sorry, I sold the Harley:-((((
Based on your comments on this thread you appear to be an intellectually shriveled, uneducated, little brown person. A total waste of everyone’s time. Who let you in?
UnMe, if the purpose of your trolling is to prove how mad at dad you are, mission accomplished. Flooding this thread with your juvenile, contrary responses just proves what an idiot you are.
Your comparisons of sovereign nations with private property (and, really, why have that boundary at all?) are so laughable that it would be a waste of time to explain the difference to you as it would a comparison between your butt and a whole in the ground.
You didn’t answer whether or not countries should be expected or allowed to pass their own laws or not or how Hungary is a Third-World dictatorship and I don’t suspect that you will.
Neither Japan nor China allow in immigrants en masse but the former is free. I guess not in your skewed perspective.
Furthermore, if you’re going to insist that Europe is rolling in euros the allegedly educated illegal migrants are making, you should prove it.
Like so:
“Up to three quarters of Germany’s refugees will still be unemployed in five years’ time, according to a government minister, in a stark admission of the challenges the country faces in integrating its huge migrant population.”
https://www.ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f
“Italy boasts an unemployment rate of 11.5%, and although decreasing, it means there are still plenty Italians jobless. With several Italian government-subsidized programs coming to an end, this number may is likely to increase again during the year.
With an unemployment rate of 23.1%, Greece is still the worst off European country. Even if we look beyond the EU, there is Serbia with an unemployment rate of 13%. Surely, we cannot claim that Europe as a whole is in need of an increased supply of labour?”
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/04/the-eu-doesnt-need-immigration-to-supply-labour-market-millions-of-greeks-spaniards-and-italians-are-unemployed/
Oh, those DON’T prove your points at all.
and Finland, a socialist utopia has a 9-10% unemployment rate. The Unthing is too stupid to realize it s stupid. Classic example of the need for means tests for voters and a scaled vote. Tho I don’t think a scaled vote would encompass a negative value vote!!!!
The nation-state is a European concept, one of self-government. A functional nation-state requires a population of shared values and identity, transmitted by a knowledge of history.
Western Civilization’s idea of a liberal democracy, is based on the Judeo/Christian concept of the individual being sacred with moral agency responsible for good and evil. Exodus is the story of attaining freedom under moral law.
Freedom under moral law contained the corollary of political liberty under law. That being government power restrained by the Crown’s obligation to serve it’s subjects. It’s legitimacy justified by the will of the commoner, whose Rights and Freedoms preceded the government power. Being born free.
Cult. Marxism is a totalitarian variant of the Greek idea of hubris. A political elite engineers a perfect society
out of their imagination, but requires an elite (read dictatorship) a monopoly of power. This so to force the
individual to live out the ruling elite’s fantasy. One in violation of the laws of nature(e.i. evolutionary psychology in modern terms), with human rulers viewing themselves as gods.
This is also encapsulated in the Christian proverb: “The road to perdition(Hell) is paved with good intentions.”
One modern example being the Holodomor, the forced collectivization of Ukrainian farming.
Ukrainian farmers, a couple of generations away from serfdom, had quickly learned to become even more highly productive as farm owners. The Soviet Union starved out millions of some of the most productive farmers in the world. This in an attempt to prove their ideology of collectivization superior.
That political contradiction, that fact never fazed the Marxist ideologues of the U.S.S.R.
“People don’t have ideas. Ideas have people!” Prof. Jordan Peterson’s psychological observation of ideologies.
Hence also, Prof. Jordan Peterson’s proverb: The Marxists are always just one (more) murder away from utopia.
(U.S.S.R., Maoism, Cambodia’s Khmer Rouge’s killing fields, North Korea et al)
Note- both totalitarian political ideologies of Marxism and orthodox Islam reject the idea of a self-governed
nation-state. For the Marxists goal is a ruling a global dictatorship. For political Islam(orthodox) it is a
world wide Caliphate ruled by a Ayatollah/Caliph. The Iranian Revolution in 1979, was an alliance of the
Islamists and the Marxists. It didn’t turn out so well for the Marxists(shredded by machine guns, hung…).
Nationalism, the pride of our achievements and responsible self-government for our nation-state, Canada; that is the responsibility of our education system and media. It having been taken over by Cult. Marxists teaches instead Marxism, neo-pagan nature worship, post-modern identity group class conflict and actual nihilism (hatred of self, Western Civilization and humanity).
Take back the schools, replace the MSM with those loyal to Canada’s foundational principles and Canada survives as a “free and democratic society”. Then we may avoid the emerging bloody civil war much of Western and Northern Europe are facing. Or enjoy the decline.
Well said Larry. There is a whole lot of world history encapsulated in a few paragraphs. Western liberal democratic civilization is under assault from with in by the Marxist collectivists hiding under the cloak of the Sophists and Cynics and from without by a militant Islam.
Will western liberal democratic civilization collapse like the Athenian civilization and then be conquered? Events move faster today then they did during the time of the Athenian democracy. We, our children may well experience this collapse. Our grandchildren certainly will.
Hey UnMoron, could you please go any “Brown People” country of your choice and demand that they let you in because countries are not private property and clubs? Go on, pick a country and go. Just march across the border. While there also loudly proclaim that they have no right to remove you and that you being there benefits them. Don’t be shy little demented one, pack up and go.
it could pick the “country” of Africa, the borders there are as porous as a sieve, and flexible as a rubber band. And that is one of the reasons they are so successful, just like unthing’s argumentative absurd. Stupid just does not cover that fool, religious belief may tho!!!
It is amazing how an open borders, collectivist progressive troll seems to be able to hijack almost any thread.
Ken, that is because many find kicking him (in the area where men have testicles) so rewarding.
Bawbag…a nice Scottish slang…
Ken, my feelings exactly.