Art Of The Deal

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North Korea Agrees To Unconditional Denuclearization, Suspends Missile Tests, Shuts Down Testing Facility…

35 Replies to “Art Of The Deal”

  1. I was going to blame it on the Russians, but…

    { – Besides, do you believe the little… daaaarling? I do (/sarc) – }

    1. Ditto. Verifiable, incontrovertible proof is required.

      Not just media headlines, our friends in the media have a tendency to stretch the truth a bit

    2. Agree. Does anyone remember the deal the NorKs agreed to with President Carter at all? Yeah, the Americans promised shipments of wheat and fuel oil to the NorKs if they would stop developing nukes and then Voila’ all of a sudden the NorKs had nukes.

      1. one needs to compare and contrast cahtah’s naivete and gullibility with Trump’s sometimes not apparent but nevertheless present business sense and style in negotiations. aka feel free to look up Trump’s announcement he WILL walk away at the first sign kimmie kim is insincere. I still say the *other* sound BITE about “fire and fury” had an effect.

  4. The conceit that China controls DPRK is absurd. The Kims have quite a bit of freedom of maneuver. What they want is guaranteed security, and they think they can get it from Trump. They also want normalized relations with South Korea, and Moon is willing to do that.

    It is easy to verify that testing has stopped, but whether they will give up all the weapons is another matter. It is not clear that the South wants the North to give them up. The North and South are a single race with a single history and culture, and they are more loyal to each other than to foreigners, especially Americans and Japanese who have wreaked havoc on their country.

    1. I do think relations with South Korea is the strong pull here, but the log jam was broken by Trump. Will he get any credit?

    2. bob, you ever git outa yer basement, or are you stuck there permenantly. Now if you had suggested that Russian also has a stake in this…………………………

  5. The BBC (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43847845) makes the point that suspending nuke tests, while a positive development, really isn’t that big a deal. It notes that India and Pakistan each needed no more than six tests to develop and field a viable nuclear warhead. DPRK has conducted six, so it is not unreasonable to think that they are now capable of fielding a weaponized nuke. Further, the promise is to stop testing and firing ICBMs, not to destroy those already in NK’s possession.

    1. Yup. Coincidence. NK was finished testing anyway. Moon and Trump had nothing to do with it – just look at India (who still tests ICBMs). Now had Hillary or even Obama been president – this would be a different story. This would be genius. 10-d chess. Either of them would already have Nobel Peace Prizes stuffed in their bed pillows and hung as wallpaper in their vanity room.

      I think it’s all bologna. The NK fat-boy is just screwing with people.

  6. Trust but verify. Unlike the obama and clinton and carter clown cars, trump’s staff of Mattis, pompeo and Bolton will not settle for weak to nonexistent inspections.

    And that may ultimately mean a failure in these talks. We shouldn’t get ahead of ourselves on this.

    That noted the deal looks to be complete elimination of nukes, and seller Ng to rogue/terrorist regimes in exchange for an iron-clad guarantee that NK will not be attacked or threatened by the south and buckets of dough and removal of embargoes.

    Seems reasonable to me. I think in time (maybe not that long) NK wiuld overthrow the leadership.

    But THE key target here is not NK. It’s Iran. Removing NK as an ally to Iran really puts the screws to the mullahs. And it makes ending the deal obama made with Iran easy.

  7. In 18 short months Trump has laid waste to all the economic experts, foreign policy experts, defense experts – generally ALL the ‘experts’ that have inflicted themselves on us deplorables for the past 30 or 40 years. The Middle East is settling down with Israel and the Saudi Arabia actually getting along to confront the real threat to the Middle East – Iran. Trade deals are being rewritten so that the US benefits (and by extension ALL the allies of the US), North Korea is realizing that they either play by Trump’s rule or they will be blown to bits (and China realizes that as well), Putin can bluster all he wants, but Russia is a very weak bear (and Putin knows it so he will not challenge the US except with words).

    Trump’s opponents in the US realize that nothing it coming forward that will impeach Trump and so they are throwing out Hail Mary passes (the latest lawsuit is a desperate bid that will fail – the DNC is broke and they need money anywhere they can get it). People can scream and cry to the sky all they want but Trump is still President, enjoys being attacked and will continue doing what he is doing. Can’t wait for the mid-term elections – in spite of what the MSM is promoting, I think it will be a sweep for Trump aligned GOP candidates

    1. I highly doubt Trump is solving all the world’s problems in 2 years. The NorK’s have signed multiple deals and then reneged on all of them. While I can agree that Trump does a good job in rattling chains it is just as likely that his opponents whether foreign or domestic will simply adopt a strategy of waiting out his election ouster. The mid-terms are a huge test. If the GOP can survive that then Trump is solid and the DEM’s go into greater crisis.

      I said from the beginning that Trump had to post GDP growth of +3%. EVen the OECD upgraded their USA forecast to 2.9% GDP growth. I read many who are saying USA grow is closer to 4%. Record levels of employment across the racial board. If Trump is rewarded by minority votes in the mid-terms or in 2020 then he wins big time.

    2. Nice analysis. Now the media are really, really mad at Trump, so here we go with the regurgitated false narratives.

      The DeMarxists may be seeing a rise in their legal costs in as we near the perp walk, I mean midterms.

    4. “The Middle East is settling down ”

      Fantasy.

      “Trade deals are being rewritten so that the US benefits ”

      They already did. The tariffs are already causing a great deal of pain.

    5. exactamundo. there is a very looooong blood feud betwixt S Arabia and Iran.
      recent developments address this. Trump is like a boxer taunting the opponent to swing just sose he can swing back.

    1. Bollocks. The biggest losers have been far right candidates – not gop regulars. And trumps high unfavourables are not helping. His unsavoury personal conduct and dialogue wandering from the good news of his successes isn’t helping.

      There are some who theorize that Trump wants to lose the midterms and be impeached. It puts all of the spotlight on him. (And it’s worth noting that Clinton’s highest rating was immediately after he was impeached)

  9. Kind of helps when you send a Rod of God onto the NoRK nuke site, slide it into the sea, kill 200 scientists and technicians and blame it on an “earthquake”.

  10. Getting rid of the bad Actors in Mid Terms … Republican or Democrats….. will set the table for 2020… One party of the Establishment will disappear… Trump could run as a third party, or get rid of self serving RINO’s…

    Trump is good to go….the rest of the Congress are not that healthy… DNC is the party of Bernie Sanders (full communist)

  11. The Altering of the Deal…aka, taking advice from Kissinger because it’s worked out so well in the past…
    One Worlders, hard at work…

    “Hey, I’m a nationalist and a globalist,” Trump told the Wall Street Journal on Thursday. “I’m both.”
    “And I’m the only one who makes the decision, believe me,” Trump said.

    FROM CHAPTER SIX, page 231, of World Order by Henry Kissinger:
    TOWARD AN ASIAN ORDER: CONFRONTATION OR PARTNERSHIP?

    “For the Pyongyang regime, abandoning nuclear weapons may well involve political disintegration. But abandonment is precisely what the United States and China have publicly demanded in the UN resolutions that they have fostered. The two countries need to coordinate their policies for the contingency that their stated objectives are realized.

    WILL IT BE POSSIBLE TO MERGE THE CONCERNS AND GOALS OF THE TWO SIDES OVER KOREA? ARE CHINA AND THE UNITED STATES ABLE TO WORK OUT A COLLABORATIVE STRATEGY FOR A DENUCLEARIZED, UNIFIED KOREA THAT LEAVES ALL PARTIES MORE SECURE AND MORE FREE? IT WOULD BE A BIG STEP TOWARD THE “NEW TYPE OF GREAT-POWER RELATIONS” SO OFTEN INVOKED AND SO SLOW IN EMERGING.”

  12. Cautiously optimistic about stability in the Korean peninsula, and relish the thought of DeMarxists poking their eyes out.

    But, baked in the cake perhaps, the Norks are out of missiles and the Kim economy is running out of foreign currency?

    It would be nice though if North Korea could join the industrial world, even if under China’s economic wing.

    Some say this kind of rapprochement will earn Trump the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Maybe he would qualify for the real thing, not the Arafat version, but the leftist world will never let that happen.

  13. “leader suspends nuclear and missile tests, shuts down test site”

    Shuts down test site……. hmmmm. Wasn’t this news in 2017? It appears that the “test site” is already shut down.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/10/31/200-feared-dead-after-tunnel-collapses-at-north-korean-nuclear-test-site-japanese-tv-claims.html

    Fears of radiation leaking may be a big incentive for the Chinese to lay a heavy hand on the Norks. Or not, I’m not one to say. But if this works out somehow that the Norks dismantle their nuclear warheads along with their missiles, well…. YUGE accomplishment.

  15. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-meeting-dr-henry-kissinger/

    Issued on: October 10, 2017

    THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Henry Kissinger has been a friend of mine. I’ve liked him, I’ve respected him. But we’ve been friends for a long time, long before my emergence in the world of politics, which has not been too long.

    DR. KISSINGER: Mr. President, I didn’t expect this opportunity. It’s always a great honor to be in this office, and I’m here at a moment when the opportunity to build a constructive, peaceful world order is very great.

    And the President is leaving on a trip to Asia, which I think will make a big contribution to progress and peace and prosperity.

  16. The notions that 1) China controls the norks or that 2) China’s ‘economic survival’ was/is imperiled by Turmp’s trade imbecility are both wholly untethered from reality. Hell, the recent (illegal) bombing of Syria may have had more to do with this-pressuring the Russians to pressure NK.

    1. well now unthing, ewe got the bombing Syria thing right. The ruskie super dupper defense was kinda flat against the on slot of western munitions. That should calm poohteen down a bit. I don’t think he’ll act the way obungles allowed him to act!

    2. Keep making stuff up to justify questioning others’ analytical skills. Stick with it.

  17. I still don’t think Hawaiians will give a rats behind about having the nuclear crosshairs taken off of them and start supporting the conservative guy that actually did it to avoid a Pearl Harbour repeat (including no more terrorizing from stupid accidental cell phone nuclear attack emergency messages). Ungrateful Kool-Aid sucking Obama worshipping progressives! But they can always catch their Democrat pushed windmill powered Honolulu Rail Transit project to escape the stress of driving on an increasingly clogged up island traffic snarl…oh wait! https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2017/07/honolulus-rapid-transit-crisis/534150/

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