One of Trudeau’s excuses for paying out the terrorist Khadr without a court judgement was the amount that the Gov’t had already spent defending their actions.
I guess that means this little girl will be getting a financial windfall pretty soon.
The federal Liberal government has spent more than $110,000 fighting a First Nations girl in court to block payment for orthodontic treatment that cost just $6,000, according to documents released under the Access to Information Act and shared with CBC News.
Via, NewsHubNation
I have no problem with the feds fighting a dental claim that clearly fell outside the stated coverage. If they had knuckled under there would have been thousands more claims to be paid as a result. The media of course ignores that aspect.
Am I the only one who grasps the fact that the money being spent is being spent on LAWYERS? Not Dental Care. Not deserving recipients of the taxpayers largess. Nope. It is being handed out as fast as it can be printed to LAWYERS!
Gord said, “clearly outside stated coverage”.
Article says, “She took over-the-counter pain medication daily for two years because of extreme discomfort associated with impacted teeth and a severe overbite, among other ailments. A Calgary-based orthodontist, Mark Antosz, recommended braces to avoid invasive jaw surgery in the future.”
and,
“A claimant must have “severe and functionally handicapping malocclusion” (overbite) to be eligible. The department determined Willier’s case fell short after it consulted with four orthodontists of its own choosing — but those doctors did not physically examine Willier.”
Totally clear.
What an opportunity the Government poo bahs missed. After all, any sensible human being that has needed dental work, would know this. Something that just cannot be sloughed off, most urgent that it is to be done. What a good feeling everyone would have had, this including the poor helpless taxpayer. This if the facts and costs were public. As has been said here- “Lawyers”. Is there no decency? Is there no shame for some of these people? Finally, it is likely that the high poo bahs have a wonderful set of choppers. The tax payer sees to that.
“Over the counter meds” (so no paper trail or doctors prescription) one orthodontist’s – vested? – opinion and oh BTW the judge ruled in favour of the government.
Yes very clear that this is a scam that was stopped in its tracks.
GORD TULK and Jason Kennedy hate indigenous peoples. Same as they hate gay people.
Oh and btw procedures like this require prior approval – don’t see any evidence that an effort was made to get it.
Wow!! What a hero!! Fighting with kids so they can’t receive dental care!
What next?? He’s going to the nursery school and hide their lunch!!
The Liberal party is “RACIST, and misogynist”.
Obviously when they support Islamic terrorists murdering American soldiers, you can understand why they support Sharia violence against women and gays.
What’s one Canadian aboriginal girl to a party that actively works towards wiping out all First Nations colonial treaties with mass Third World immigration that habitually abuse the aboriginal peoples of their own countries.
You should know better than to trust only one source for news, especially when that source is the CBC.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/09/29/ottawa-racks-up-110000-in-legal-bills-to-avoid-paying-for-indigenous-teens-braces.html
Yet while the teen was in pain, suffered headaches and took medication daily, Health Department bureaucrats determined that her condition was not serious enough to warrant braces, dismissing the initial application for coverage and all subsequent appeals.
Despite the refusals, her mother went ahead and had the orthodontic work done.
Despite all the silly comments about people being racist and stupid, this conversation interests me. Let’s pose a hypothetical situation (since I’ve been down a similar route twice with braces for my kids).
How about if the family of the child had a job or jobs that earned them money and paid them benefits? Problem solved. Braces aren’t cheap, I know that – trust me.
And for what it’s worth, it would have made sense to just pay for the kid’s braces if she was actually in the distress that is being indicated here. We have the Indian Act and are bound, unfortunately, to support these people. Even a young Chretien was smart enough to see the folly of the act but Trudeau Sr. put the idea of bringing them into the mainstream population on the back burner for decades.
It all leads back to a Trudeau no matter how you read it.
I’m sure that Catt Gallinger has cost the taxpayers more than 6K.
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What are you talking about? the star article confirms what I’m saying.
This is the same @$$hole government that insists people swear fealty to a bunch of money-grubbers “because they were here first” or some such rot but will not offer a teen-ager any medical help she needs to function in life. This government literally fought her tooth and nail.
When is that g-d- no-confidence motion coming?
This is the same @$$hole government that insists people swear fealty to a bunch of money-grubbers “because they were here first” or some such rot but will not offer a teen-ager any medical help she needs to function in life. This government literally fought her tooth and nail.
When is that g-d- no-confidence motion coming?
You stated that you didn’t think she had sought prior approval. The Star article clearly indicates that she put in an application for coverage and was rejected. So she did what any parent would do when her child is in pain and paid out of pocket. Then she appealed their decision.
Again she did not get approval. Take them to Court to get that approval.
And I doubt her family paid out of pocket – I’m thinking the ortho did it assuming he could bilk native affairs for it.
Think about what you are supporting – a guy gets declined the permit to build a house and then goes ahead and builds it anyway and post facto expects to get the permit. Think of the anarchy/chaos that would create. It’s not unlike the case of the guy who illegally built a set of stair in a park that was posted here not too long ago.
“Angus, a candidate for his party’s leadership, said Indigenous Services Minister Jane Philpott could have intervened to stop legal proceedings before the court rendered its decision.”
That is an odd statement, once in Court how does a minister STOP legal proceedings?…The Court ruled for the Government, why would anyone representing the Government (taxpayer) intervene too become a loser…
The Government spent 110K What did the mother/tribe spend, how was the plaintive appeals Funded…? Lawyers hoping for a huge payout..like the terrorist 10 million…
Muddy legal practices indeed…Third World fraud in the Courts
The girl should head South for Obamakkare … which has very generous preventative dental health provisions (along with generous preventative natural born gender “treatment”). And since she is an indigenous native … she will receive not only the dental work … but travel expenses, per diem, and a cash bonus just for being Native. And since there are no such things as “illegal alien children” … the girl will cross our invisible borders effortlessly.
“…money being spent is being spent on LAWYERS….”
Dead on Suppo! Sure some Chiefs and Band Councils are pissing away millions, but that’s a drop in the bucket compared to the tax dollars that are flushed away on lawyers, consultants, stakeholders and assorted experts who have made their livelihoods on the never-ending Indian Grievance Gravy Train.
A Metis gal wrote a scathing book about it all – she called it the Indian Industry, or something like that. Wish I could remember her name and/or the name of her book. Recommended reading.
There are only 3500 lawyers working for Justice dept and couldn’t they find one that could litigate.
Frances Widdowson: ‘Disrobing the aboriginal industry’ is the name of the book.
I guess the government doesn’t want to set the precedental claim, as it were.
why can’t I get “free” dental care?
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And the dog will barf up my homework on its own.
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Commentators here are missing the point, why fight a dental claim to absurdity ($6,000 payout max) versus agreeing to a $10.5 million payout without even testing it, negotiating it or even playing anything close to hardball? Stated excuse, we would run up legal bills (on already paid for DoJ lawyers???) and risk a higher settlement….hard to believe when the cure was repatriation but who knows what our legal system kicks out these days.
It isn’t about whether the dental claim was right or not, its the contradictory behaviour of the government which highlights the lie that the Government was really interested in saving money etc in the Khadr payout.
1) Likely hiding the details of just how badly behaved the security establishment was
and/or
2) Recipient was a backed by the right groups, Liberal strategy is still to smother issues that would allow the NDP to get their support back to near 20%. Libs know CPC win becomes possible with an NDP that polls anywhere north of 18%
“But if there are other children out there who can’t eat or talk properly without chronic pain, they’re welcome to all my tax dollars,” [Blackstock – the executive director of the First Nations Child and Family Caring Society] said.”
Then there’s no reason that Cindy Blackstock can’t get her chequebook out and pay for treatment herself. It would align her actions with her words, and by cutting out the middleman, probably be cheaper all ’round.
uh…Who TF is Jason Kennedy…kindly illuminate us..??
Are you talking about Jason Kenney – soon to be leader of the UCP in Alberta.? The guy I truly HOPE will win and then kick some serious Marxist (_i_)… That Jason Kennedy.?
Or is it that you are actually illiterate and have an 8 yr old typing for you..
mr tulk is invited to have a couple of his teeth drilled full of holes and some ‘unorthodontics’ done to shove the rest of them out of proper alighnment. then offer his despicable opinion on this case.
Stephen wins today’s prize for the most accurate assessment of a news item.
lots of issues bubble up to the surface with this one, the most predominate being lieberal HYPOCRISY.
p.s. for anyone lacking huge dental benefits and facing thousands in costs, my sol’n which I have employed since the early 70s:
get thee to a dental school. I now have about 20 grand worth of orthodontics and gold crowns in my bouche purchased at cost, ie cost of the gold, plus minor expenses like X-rays, adding up to very roughly a quarter of the cost for licensed practitioners.
I joke that when world wide hyperinflation hits and the economies turn into a bunch of financial zombies, I can pry the gold out of my mouth and pawn it as a stop-gap . . . .