It’s Not Wiretapping When The Democrats Do It

Former President Barack Obama’s national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce “detailed spreadsheets” of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.
“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.
“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates, or anyone they were speaking with,” diGenova said. “In short, the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”
Other official sources with direct knowledge and who requested anonymity confirmed to TheDCNF diGenova’s description of surveillance reports Rice ordered one year before the 2016 presidential election.
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Michael Doran, former NSC senior director, told TheDCNF Monday that “somebody blew a hole in the wall between national security secrets and partisan politics.” This “was a stream of information that was supposed to be hermetically sealed from politics and the Obama administration found a way to blow a hole in that wall,” he said.
Doran charged that potential serious crimes were undertaken because “this is a leaking of signal intelligence.”
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“We’re looking at a potential constitutional crisis from the standpoint that we used an extremely strong capability that’s supposed to be used to safeguard and protect the country,” he said. “And we used it for political purposes by a sitting President.”

More at Daily Caller. Via Drudge.

48 Replies to “It’s Not Wiretapping When The Democrats Do It”

  1. Now that Donald Trump is President has he put an end to massive, warrantless wiretapping?

  2. It appears to me … watching the goings on south of the 49th, that America is edging closer to a civil war. When the Democrats behave like spoiled evil children with destructive powers, and half the populations supports it … it’s only a matter of time.
    Sometime we have to give peace a chance, but then there are times like the one with are in now, where we need to give civil war a chance.
    It’s the only way to truly clean house and get America back on track.
    My money is on the conservatives, as they own all the guns and they know how to shoot straight … none of they ghetto sideways gun crap.
    To avoid a lot of blood shed, I suggest the forces of good simply cut off all supplies going into the big liberal cities until there is no food, energy or safety left … then we can talk … or not.

  3. And of course, changing the rules so that such unmasked information can be widy spread was NEVER done with the intention that it would end up being leaked…….except……it was.
    There are not enough lamp posts in the world for that criminal lot.

  4. I have thought the US is edging toward a civil war for a while now. Look at how many Komsomolets the universities are churning out. The radical left was, under Obama, making a serious and final effort to radically remake the US into a Marxist state. At the very least, a number of Obama operatives, maybe Obama himself, should be charged with this wiretapping and/or what ever other charges may result.

  5. Nixon was a choir boy compared to Obama. And this surveillance of Trump was banana republic stuff. Really disgusting. And the MSM ignoring the revelations the last 24 hours tells you EXACTLY how bad this all is. And like MJ said, CNN is in full “look – squirrel” mode. I saw some of it this morning. Pathetic.
    The spineless squish Repubs will do next to nothing about this though. Count on it.

  6. This is Watergate bad. Hillary’s gonna have to run in 2020 to pardon Barry. Good thing walkers have wheels and handbrakes now.

  7. I don’t think so actually because this is a slam dunk. Trump drew them in. He let them keep digging and digging about muh Russia and hacking the election etc. Welp it looks like Obama hacked the election. How about that? It’s the kill shot.

  8. Present Trump was right. The mainstream media is an enemy of the people of the United States of America.

  9. Its worse than watergate when you add up this and the Benghazi cover-up and the sicking of the IRS on conservative non-profits. These Chicago politics tactics go way back. It needs to be run to ground. I just hope that obama is finally exposed for the evil that he is.
    Hugh hewitt made an excellent point this am that requesting unmasking is an extremely rare thing – that it never happens. And on morning Joe the point was made that the Dems would have gone completely ballistic had Dick Cheney done this back in the day.

  10. Go check out National Newswatch, a Canadian mainstream news link aggregator, nothing about this bombshell story but there’s plenty of insinuating “news” stories linking Trump to Russia. So yeah, the low-IQ news is going all in on this poker hand and they’re bluffing! They’ve got a four-flush!

  11. CNN says it is all fine.
    Ok, so if it is fine then Trump can do the same thing.
    Ask the dummies in the media if that would be okay with them.

  12. And … once again … President Trump’s early morning “unhinged” Tweet about Obama “wiretapping” his administration was 100% correct. MOST of the American people clearly understand that the “Press” is NOT our friend. That the Press is primarily a Marxist mouthpiece. The Press was Barrack Hussein Obama’s Public Relations TOOL. The Press cannot be trusted AT ALL. No wonder LIARS like Ted Koppel disparage web-based INDEPENDENT news sites. Disparage “right wing” radio. President Trump is NOT a LIAR … like HER … and HER Benghazi lackey – Susan Rice. President Trump is NOT a LIAR, like Obama … and HIS anti-Trump lackey – Susan Rice.

  13. Go check out National Newswatch, a Canadian mainstream news link aggregator, nothing about this bombshell story but there’s plenty of insinuating “news” stories linking Trump to Russia. So yeah, the low-IQ news is going all in on this poker hand and they’re bluffing! They’ve got a four-flush!

  14. Most high-ranking Democrats belong behind bars. If someone like Hillary is walking free then it’s likely that all of them will remain so. There appears to be no rule of law in the US which has pretty much achieved Banana Republic status. The institutional left has taken over, inhabiting virtually all levels of state apparatus and seems prepared to keep the populist Trump tied up every which way. I doubt that the progressive wing of the GOP will go along with, assuming Trump even wants to, neutralizing the out-of-control leviathan.

  15. The people that were surveilled illegally are allowed to sue in civil court.
    Even if they stay out of jail, they can be broken financially. Living well is sometimes the best revenge.

  16. “There appears to be no rule of law in the US which has pretty much achieved Banana Republic status.”
    Oh, there’s a rule of law alright, for the little people like you and me.

  17. Quite right, it is much worse that Watergate, Gord. This was why it was such a disaster for the Dems when Trump won last November. Far from just abstract policy stuff, they needed a friendly incoming administration to conceal what was done. Who among these scum cares about dead men in Libya? The real issue was avoiding a criminal investigation.
    It also explains why Obama suddenly got heavily involved in campaigning in summer 2016. They realized that the election would be a lot closer than the shoe-in they initially thought it would be.

  18. “And on morning Joe the point was made that the Dems would have gone completely ballistic had Dick Cheney done this back in the day.”
    Gord: It’s true that we heard that comment this morning on Morning Joe, but Joe Scarborough continues to say that the story is 95% Russia and 5% surveillance/unmasking/leaking/targeting political enemies. They also turned the Dick Cheney comment into an elaborate gag.
    I don’t expect any better from Mika, who is simply a silly, air-head partisan, but Joe too is now looking no better than Lawrence O’Donnell or any other MSNBC water-carrier you might want to mention. I hasten to add that I watch Morning Joe everyday, but nothing else on MSNBC, ever.

  19. ‘No rule of law in the United States’…
    There is little doubt that progressives (heavily subverted by the radical left), knew exactly what they had to do during the Cold War. They could not win a shooting war with the West so they systematically infiltrated the education and media infrastructure to direct public thinking to their will.
    The USA is no different than Canada or any of the Euro nations. Why do progressives universally support illegal immigration? It provides them with motivated foot soldiers if it comes down to conflict. I doubt that will be necessary as they have pretty much won the war already.

  20. Newswatchcanada has these links up:
    “Adam Housley – Fox News: Susan Rice requested to unmask names of Trump transition officials, sources say”
    “John Solomon, Sara Carter – Circa: White House logs indicate Obama’s Susan Rice mass-consumed unmasked intel on Trump associates”
    “Eli Lake – Bloomberg: Smoking gun: Top Obama adviser Susan Rice sought names of Trump associates in intel”
    “Daily Caller: Former U.S. Attorney: Susan Rice ordered spy agencies to produce ‘detailed spreadsheets’ involving Trump starting in 2015”
    “Alex Pfeiffer – Daily Caller: Trump supporter labelled ‘fake news’ by ’60 Minutes’ beats everyone to Susan Rice scoop”
    http://www.newswatchcanada.ca/

  21. Cenovich who broke this story originally is now saying Sean Hannity was spied on too. If that’s true then rice is truly cooked. No way to spin that into dindu nuffin just doing muh job. I know they’ll try.

  22. Rice’s brilliant response is she unmasked US citizens routinely, and that spreadsheet allegations are “false” because she didn’t actually produce any.
    The Dems have been hiding along behind classification to cover their false narrative of a “criminal investigation” of Trump by the FBI’s Comey.
    He actually said it was a counter-intelligence investigation which already concluded there was no evidence of anything nefarious from the Trump team, but with the witch hunt failed, the Dems just throw more straw men into the fire.
    Is this because the Dems are aware of why the FBI investigations continues? They see smoke from Trump, but do they know the fire will burn them?
    I think it’s a false flag action on the Dems’ part, as usual typical projection, to divert attention to the fact they are under investigation, on a variety of legal fronts, with serious allegations that high level Dems were in on a scheme to surveil the Trump team, even after his election.
    Some of this involved “signal intelligence” which by its nature is always highly classified, and the unauthorized dissemination is a felony. In the course of that Rice, in a possibly criminal act, “requested” the unmasking of Trump people.
    Then someone breached security by sharing it with friendly media types. The trifecta of illegal? You betcha. Bad optics? Oh my.
    They have forgotten one thing; they no longer control the Justice Dept or the Legislature or the Executive.
    There’ll be no surprise meeting with Chuck Schumer showing up on some tarmac to talk with Jeff Sessions about the grandkids.
    I am puzzled by one thing however. I find it difficult to fathom how Obama, now outgoing as a senior statesman to his golf and book tours and talks, would risk all that on an operation that clearly he would have to known about.
    I don’t think he’s the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he’s no idiot either. He beat the GOP twice. Is he that stupid to think he could insulate himself?
    If this is true, he had to have shielded himself somehow &/or have an ejection seat; but does he understand his presidency would be inevitably tainted?

  23. When are the gloves going to come off, and justice meted out to theses lawbreakers?
    No more Mr. Nice Guy.

  24. Delightful, the Über_Obama video purveyor and accomplished spinmeister Susan Rice, who couldn’t tell us if Benghazi embassy staff were in a funeral pyre, is now going to enunciate on the veracity of intelligence briefings.
    When your credibility is already literally shot full of holes, it is doubly difficult to come across as realistic.
    Never mind Drudge who suggest Rice is cooked; RICE SOUFFLÉ is served at the White House no less!
    Bon appetite President Trump!
    Cheers
    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group ‘True North’

  25. where are the whistleblowers? all it takes is a visit to some mailbox at 4 in the morning on a rainy nite and voila.
    but mebbe the unwritten rule about ‘rats’ holds true across party lines.
    remember now, they ALL do it.

  26. Why do you think he campaigned for Hillary who he hates?

  27. does anyone really think this bullshit matters? good God these people have gone beyond. Obama spent 8 years lying to America and the world and no one gave a shit . please people, find a brain cell somewhere that works.

  28. “Egad Rice Burrows”… or something
    It’s so much fun Captcha is “PIZZERIA Bobcat”

  29. Again, Obama no longer controls justice or government and soon not the courts either. That’s the difference. So we will see.

  30. “Some of this involved “signal intelligence” which by its nature is always highly classified, and the unauthorized dissemination is a felony. In the course of that Rice, in a possibly criminal act, “requested” the unmasking of Trump people.” shamrock
    The unmasking would only be done by an investigation initiated by the FBI, CIA, NSA…..None of the legal investigative agencies requested the Trump wire-tap unmasking… It all should have been discarded/trashed
    Susan Rice has/had no investigative powers.. No legal investigation tasks.. She was seeking political information for OBAMA.. She will take the 5th & be charged. It is a clean take down…
    Comey & his deputy are cooked for their attempt to make it look like the FBI initiated the Unmasking.. COVER UP by Rogers
    JMHO

  31. This “leaking” to the press of personal “secured”info, is straight out of the old Oblameya MO playbook.
    Before Rice, there was Axelrod.
    Obama’s signature move: unsealing private records
    (…)
    Four days after Judge Schnider unsealed the custody records, Ryan dropped out of the race for the horror of (allegedly) propositioning his own wife and then taking “no” for an answer.
    And that’s how Obama became a U.S. senator. He destroyed both his Democratic primary opponent and his Republican general election opponent with salacious allegations about their personal lives taken from “sealed” court records.
    Obama’s team delved into Sarah Palin’s marriage and spread rumors of John McCain’s alleged affair in 2008 and they smeared Herman Cain in 2011 with hazy sexual harassment allegations all emanating from David Axelrod’s pals in Chicago.
    It’s almost like a serial killer’s signature. Unsealed personal records have been released to the press. Obama must be running for office!

  32. The DOJ, CIA, FBI, IRS, EPA, DHS, etc… are all still being battled for by Trump. The Obama hires must be purged before his control is solid.

  33. David, you for got the GOP. The sora$$ members of that party need to be purged also.

  34. Just a comment, Susan Rice made a point that the Intel she received was SELECTED for her, that means that there must be another person, or persons, who made sure she got all the Trump surveillance..That is a conspiracy…
    She had to unmask all the PPL because A) she is as dumb as a hammer B) Obama wanted to Know…She was not empowered to investigate Americans…
    The Democrats have gone down the wrong path, only a Court can decide if what she was doing was legal and consistent with the warrants…..Who (Judge) issued the warrants?

  35. Very good G.
    It was these stories that I used to try convincing an old liberal friend that Obama was a man of very poor character.
    He’s a mobster essentially. A thug. A lazy good for nothing punk. As is his wife.
    And no matter how successful they are on the material front the shoulder chips are permanent.
    And I suspect that the reason for this is that they know they are affirmative action frauds.
    And, oh, for a very long time now I’ve felt that he could be a Muslim Brother.

  36. Shamrock wrote: “I am puzzled by one thing however. I find it difficult to fathom how Obama, now outgoing as a senior statesman to his golf and book tours and talks, would risk all that on an operation that clearly he would have to known about.”
    Clearly there was certainty that Clinton would win the presidency and that all that had gone before would be firmly and deeply buried. Now his entire ‘legacy’ is in danger as more and more legal and financial shenanigans begin to surface.
    Here’s an example. Right now Tucker Carlson is interviewing a fellow named Josh Rosner, Managing Director of Graham Fisher Inc. Here is how he is described by the Huffington Post:
    Joshua Rosner is Managing Director at independent research consultancy Graham Fisher & Co and advises regulators and institutional investors on housing and mortgage finance issues. Previously he was the Managing Director of financial services research for Medley Global Advisors and was an Executive Vice President at CIBC World Markets. Mr. Rosner was among the first analysts to identify operational and accounting problems at the Government Sponsored Enterprises and one of the earliest in identifying the peak in the housing market, the likelihood of contagion in credit markets and the weaknesses in the credit rating agencies CDO assumptions
    Mr. Rosner is claiming that the Obama administration raided the profits of both Fannie Mae and Freddin Mac to the tune of billions of dollars, all in order to help fund the Obamacare fiasco. He went on to say some 11,000 pages of supporting documentation has been embargoed through an executive order by Obama.
    And this may be just one example of what they are desperate to keep hidden

  37. “What warrants? That would leave a trail.” Shamrock
    Everyone is assuming a FISA warrant was issued, but I did not say that because the NYC (southern NY) Federal attorney was FIRED by Trump… Folks are fired for a reason and the NYT was upset…..
    The Dept of Defense Hair ball said her reason for spreading everything was (paraphrased) “The Trump Administration will find the method we used to get their information and will compromise our methods ending the practice (source) of Russian Intel.. We will lose that source” Hmmm..Obama secret PO? Was it Masked or not? Brits
    I don’t think Obama trusted the Intel Community, and that level of paranoia creates mistakes.. IMHO the NSA was the source of DNC & Hillary hacking.. It is too clean! No National threat or classified info…
    JMHO

  38. To be clear, there was nothing illegal about the surveillance or the unmasking of names. It is the leaking that is the issue although the leaking of Gen Flynn turned out to be a good thing. We should all be glad he is out of there. Also great to see that Bannon was turfed from the NSC. The remaining Generals are very good people.

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