I’m of two minds on Ontario’s decision to uninvite CBSA on their road-side stops.
On one hand I don’t think any illegal immigrant or illegal immigrant worker should be allowed to roam freely without fear of hindrance on the roads. The roadside checks success is evident when a net caught 21 in August according to the article.
On the gripping hand, I have a real problem with roadside stops engaging in unreasonable search and seizure.
Via, NWC.
“…“It became pretty clear to me that partnering with CBSA didn’t necessarily make sense with respect to being in alignment with our road user safety goals and objectives, and that’s why we made the decision to end the relationship.”…”
Whew! Glad to hear that! I mean, I wouldn’t want folks thinkin’ that maybe it had somethin’ to do within pissin’ off the ethnic vote, or stuff like that.
While I share concerns about unreasonable search and seizure, the commercial truck game is not the same as your average honda civic on its way to score some pot. Commercial inspections are much more comprehensive than a look-see into the backseat and a light count. The driver is also examined: the load must have proper paperwork, and be suited to the tractor, the driver must have the right license class (which is where they get the illegals), the hour log has to add up. Driver exam in these checks is part of the safety drill. In the current world security environment, undocumented commercial haulers may very well become a big problem…
I am happy to give up all my freedom in return for the government keeping me safe.
Soon, their munificent wisdom will have us all safe and sound in padded rooms, and we will be chauffeured to and from our workstation by qualified drivers.
Road side safety stops are allowed to violate your Charter Rights for public safety reasons and keeping the Highways safe. It is a narrow ruling with specific applications. The federal government was once again abusing the intent of the law.It is for these reasons why I opposed bill C-13, the anti-cyberbulling law which basically has very little to do with bullying other then turning Canada into a Orwell police state. Curiously the SCOC has defeated the fundamentals of this bill, but yet this Bill is still slated for third reading in the House after Thanksgiving and sent to the Senate to become law. Harper has taken advantage of a cyber bulling tragedy and turned that into an excuse to strip Canadians of their Charter Rights to unreasonable search and seizure and privacy. The High River gun grab was initiated with the very same legal justification for law enforcement, public safety. It is these one-sided interpretations of the law by authorities and their willingness to use it, is why we have judicial oversight over their activities. What are Canadians to think of the message being sent by Harper by continuing to introduce laws that erode that last line of defence from overreaching government and officials abusing their positions , other then keeping Conservatives away from the ballot box come next election.
It is the “politically correct” compliant procedures that have handicapped police investigations, not the lack of surveillance tools already available to law enforcement.
Aye. Being an illegal Immigrant would probably rank right up there with no insurance/impaired/suspended driver as one of the top reasons for hit and run.
IOW CBSA identified 21 unlicenced and unqualified drivers operating big rigs that MTO wouldn’t detect otherwise.
Logically in the interest of public safety, this cooperation with CBSA should be expanded.
I am happy to give up all my freedom in return for the government keeping me safe.
Don’t jest, this is actually what some people believe.
Aren’t any of you that are advocating this worried about abuses such as this –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiyX0_zJuK4
The gripping hand is the third one, eh.
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Just post in your native tongue and let us do the google translation.
Pigs live in hell, of sorts…
“CBSA identified 21 unlicenced and unqualified drivers operating big rigs that MTO wouldn’t detect otherwise.”
Beyond the obvious point that this represents federal interference with provincial powers, the CBSA does not exist to regulate unlicenced and unqualified drivers on the roads of Ontario.
“Logically in the interest of public safety, this cooperation with CBSA should be expanded.”
Logically then – in the interest of public safety – the CBSA should be permitted to enter your house at any time in pursuit of illegal immigrants and demand you provide documentation proving you are entitled to Canadian residency.
MTO does truk inspections. If they find someone who does not have a drivers license driving a truck, they turn them over to the police. The police have to determine who they are. When they have done that the police will find they are illegal. The police can turn them over to the CBSA. I would have thought this is completely legal and reasonable.
If I was driving a truck without a license and the MTO discovered this in a routine inspection they would turn me over to the police. If the police then discovered I was a serial killer they would act accordingly.
Most are unaware if you have a classified drivers licence and drive in the US, then you are subject to random drug testing on little or no notice……and you are allowed ZERO blood alcohol.
Drivers who never leave Canada but are employed by a carrier who serves the US are subject to this as well. A daily log must be maintained if you or any driver in your company ventures more than 100 km from you terminal.
Most are unaware that a driver must not only do a pre-trip examination of the vehicle, each time he switches vehicles and carry a written record of that/those inspections.
In a regulatory climate like that CBSA is a minor irritant.
Now I am retired…a mandatory pre-trip that consists of fastening a seat belt or doning a brain bucket is trivial. I still check fluids, signals and lights….
Toronto now has 51 percent of it’s residents who were not born in Canada.
If the Ont. provincial Liberal government of Wynne cares not who is legally here and who isn’t…
That might explain, why so many of those who do vote, keep doing so for a Ford brother.
This doesn’t represent “federal interference” [rolling eyes icon]. Its a joint operation. Feds and provincials do joint ops all the time across many departments. Police have no specific powers in regard to immigration. The joint op would have started because the police/mto were finding illegals in their safety sweeps. Once again, commercial truck operations operate under a different set of rules than mom/pop trips to Wonderland. Originally this was probably set up because of complaints from police or MTO that they had these illegals to detain and didn’t want to have to handle them. Having CBSA/CIC on site just saves taxpayer’s money, and gets the illegals off the road.
Can’t think of any other reason why the MTO DH would back away other than to protect GTA votes or there was a breakdown in the cost-sharing arrangements.
As to coming into your house to find illegals, you betcha CBSA/CIC can do that, with a warrant and/or deportation order. Happens more often than you might imagine.