Just for 454guy

Labrador went Liberal. Which was either a great gain by Trudeau or a local phenomenon. The CPC talking point is that while the Liberals got 60% of the vote, Dion’s Liberals got 70%, so…yeah.
Adler called it in 2009.
Round 2 tickets are available. (Snort)
A liberal Senator resigned from the Liberal caucus, Duffy paid his back, and no one knows what Brazeau is going to do.
You’ll get your BC Election thread later.
Hmm, other than that…

23 Replies to “Just for 454guy”

  1. Stephen Harper could have avoided this loss by cutting the ropes on the Liberal`s free advertising site, know as the CBC. It may be too late now.

  2. Penashue’s defeat may not be a loss for anyone but the former MP himself. No one would accuse him of being one of keener pots of mustard in the CPC caucus, and while his presence in the Prime Minister’s multicultural Cabinet made for good photographs (which the media has had no trouble ignoring), it’s not clear that he contributed much else to the Cabinet table.
    Newfoundland and Labrador (particularly the latter part) may have lost something, but the province is wealthy enough to get by with reduced federal pork.
    The Prime Minister was wise in “accepting” Mr Penashue’s resignation, giving him a chance to regain his seat, supporting him to the extent of letting Peter MacKay spend a couple of days cheerleading in Labrador, and opening up another Cabinet seat for at least the possibility of giving it to a talented, young MP.

  3. This was a “given”,the Riding had been Liberal since 1949,except for Penashue’s win,so it was inevitable it would return to form.
    Chantal Hebert has a column today on a far more important bellwether Riding ,in Montreal,Dennis Coderre’s current Riding that will soon come up for a byelection, ( Coderre’s going for Mayor De Montreal)right next door to Mulcair’s Riding.
    That one should be a real test of Justin’s messiah-ness.
    http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/05/14/labrador_holds_few_clues_to_2015_federal_election_outcome.html

  4. Passing this off with “it was Liberal anyway” isn’t the best of attitudes – the majority of seats in Canada were Liberal for most of the last fifty years or more, and if they revert to form, we are all in the glue big time.
    Complacency will get us nowhere. It was a loss, a big loss, and if it had been managed better, the numbers would not have been so overwhelming.

  5. The Liberals didn’t get 60% they got 48% of the vote and Yvonne Jones was a popular Liberal candidate having been the former provincial leader and one of the only hold outs against Danny Williams.
    Penashue lost all of 300 votes from the federal election. The NDP stayed the same and the Liberals really turned out their supporters.

  6. Go over to C-SPAN.org and see Carney today at the “presidential” press conference. This man is the Fred Astair of Spin.
    What a dumb move of the DOJ to go after Associated Press, it appears to have alienated the Press.
    Carney is speaking sentances longer than white line down the road without actually saying enything but “we don’t know anything about anything and we are awaiting the results of independent investigations”. The amazing contortions of grammatical structure and memory of where the sentance started is quite impressive.

  7. I think it’s “spin cycle and hang out to dry”.
    I feel as sorry for Carney as I do for the Leafs.
    The man doesn’t even pause to breath … only to think: “WTF am I going to say in the next few words of this never-ending stream of spin?”
    He rhetorically suggests that this next statement may be rhetorical – brilliant! And he’s still standing!

  8. To sum up his performance … “I don’t know WTF to say, but I’ll say it anyway”.
    “Broadly speaking, the president believes in press freedom” … not asked is the obvious question …

  9. The Liberals were rather beaten down in the last provincial election. Yvonne Jones probably damaged her future chances for Premier by acting the shrieking harridan. Peter Penashue is one of the few First Nations persons to run afoul of the media; it seems to happen to Conservatives but not to NDP or Liberal First Nations.
    I expect NL to go strongly left in the next elections. The Liberals looked mighty dead but they are like dandelions here. Well, Newfies deserve a whipping and they will vote themselves the people to do it.

  10. The Senate thing has appearances of a witch hunt. Section 31(5) pretty much much sums up some of the argument. The Pinko Tory Lowell Murray, whose biggest accomplishment was clinging to a series of Progressive Conservative leaders, said on CTV Question period that Mike Duffy lacked the residency qualification to be a PEI senator. Obviously the Pinko, Murray, lacks the ability to read.
    Disqualification of Senators
    31. The Place of a Senator shall become vacant in any of the following Cases:
    (5) If he ceases to be qualified in respect of Property or of Residence; provided, that a Senator shall not be deemed to have ceased to be qualified in respect of Residence by reason only of his residing at the Seat of the Government of Canada while holding an Office under that Government requiring his Presence there.
    So the time in Ottawa doesn’t count. Where did Duffy spend most of his time outside Ottawa? It has been widely reported to be PEI. While there is no residency requirement for The House of Commons, how much time does Harper spend in Calgary? Maybe 5% max. When a person has a residence in Ottawa and another in their home province, why should there even be a discussion?

  11. BC Election;
    Likely to see the Dippers win by default. Their “popularity” never rises beyond 40-43%.
    Christy and her Fiberals get booted. There’s enough dissension within the “coalition” that can’t stand her or her Martinite Liberals, that she will fail. 801 club, and all. She should have been axed 6 months ago, with an ultimatum.
    And we get stuck with the Dips. Comrade Dix claims he says “yes” to all kinds of resource industries, but, the socialists will increase bureaucracy, taxes, fess, and delays to ultimately negate any ‘friendliness’ he espouses publicly. Phonier than a $3 bill.
    At the end of the Liberals really are a spent force and deserve their downfall, for the HST, the carbon tax, and their increasing swing to the left. Hopefully, whatever replaces thyem, will once again be a common sense center-right paarty that has traditionally governed BC, not the pseudo-religious groups of Socreds and BC Tories that have tried for the last 2 decades to have some relevance.
    The next four years will prove once again, that the NDP runs huge deficits, plays the class war, rewards sloth and laziness (welfare and the unions) all the while watching the economy stagnate. Maybe the third time will convince BC voters that the NDP only cares about its union cronies

  12. John Lewis “Peter Penashue is one of the few First Nations persons to run afoul of the media; it seems to happen to Conservatives but not to NDP or Liberal First Nations.”
    Do you mean like Ethel Blondin?

  13. Anyone who wanted to view this as a referendum on Trudeau (Read: Out of touch Toronto pundits) are silly. We knew Jones had it from the moment she announced she was going to run, simply on the basis of who she is and what areas of Labrador she would carry.
    The national media can now go back to ignoring NL.

  14. Okay, this is hilarious. A strictly Canadian post, because apparently we haven’t fulfilled our CRTC mandated Canadian content.
    1) No one bit on my Leafs dig.
    2) US politics crept in.
    Conclusions: Canadian politics is very boring and everyone loves the Sens, which is how it is supposed to be.

  15. He ran afoul of the media because he’s off reservation. FNs aren’t supposed to be conservative.

  16. Canadian politics boring? YES! Just the way it should be.
    Thank God we have b-o-o-o-ring politics!
    Stephen Harper is boring! Good! Much more so than Jean Chretien.
    Do you remember the good old days when the media used to follow
    Jean around on the golf course to see if he would tell them what
    Canadian “foreign policy” was that day? Fun!

  17. The byelection didn’t mean much, but the trend is pretty bad for the FedCons. They are sleepwalking right into an azz-kicking, just like I predicted. They are every bit as arrogant and out of touch as the Liberals were. Ditch Harper.

  18. Don’t you mean, “Still predicting” LAS? After all, we wouldn’t want to blow your Alinsky cover.

  19. Watched part of the candidates debate for the lab by election.
    After about three minutes it was obvious the campaign “question” seemed to be who could deliver the most goodies to the riding. As observed in the past, I was lead to believe those good folks in the east got extremely offended when some one remarked they seemed to live a culture of dependancy on government largesse. Each candidate seemed to be trying to outbid each other on how much more they could deliver. Of course history has shown when every body is running as the liberal candidate, the voters will either vote liberal, and the rest will stay home.
    Put another way. When I am asked to support the conservative candidate under these circumstances, my response is:
    “If an actual conservative was on the ballot, I’ll vote for them, right now all I see is, an ndp(socialist), a liberal (won’t admit they are socialist), and a progressive (liberal nomination was unavailable)”.
    That campaign was an indication of an electorate where half don’t care how the promises are paid for because they believe somebody “owes” them, and the rest know how it gets paid but don’t see anyone on the ballot that gets it.
    Message is that when everybody is trying to be Santa Clause, the voter that is looking for responsible government stays home on election day.
    The CPC war room seems to understand this as demonstrated with the release of the truth ads about the liberals beta male lucky y chromosone leader. Unfortunately, the message got lost in labrador.

  20. LASsie said: “Ditch Harper.”
    Yeah, in favor of what? Justine of the perfect hair? Mulcair the bearded wonder doofus?
    Your stupidity still amazes me sometimes, LASsie. I’ll think I’ve seen the dumbest thing ever out of you, and then you top it.

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