Democrats aren’t all that hyped about voting this go-around.
“Republicans’ greater enthusiasm about voting is a troubling sign for the Obama campaign, especially given the fact that registered voters are essentially tied in their presidential voting preferences and that Republicans historically vote at higher rates than Democrats do.”
So, I guess that quote explains why we have all those D+6 to D+11 polls, eh? If you can’t con ’em, poll ’em.
The Demon-rats make up the difference by voting dead people and dogs.. remarkably just like our libs and dippers.
Polls have always tended in recent years to understate the conservative vote.
Robins is right. This is why voter identification is necessary. It’s done in just about every other meaningful democracy in the world. Why does the US have a problem with people having to identify themselves?
A hardcore captialist for President backed by a tea party Congress and a Rand Paul Senate….
America is far from finished.
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It seems the Peggy Josephs of America aren’t as enthused as 08…wonder what brought that on..?
cgh – is voter identification done in Canada? I’ve been a scrutineer at a number of federal elections, and what I’ve seen, when people come in without a registration, is that they have to show two pieces of residential validation – a bill from a hydro or telephone company. That validates their residency in the election area.
With the registration, they’ll ask for a photo ID and that can be a driver’s licence. Or even a medical insurance card.
But I’ve never seen any request for citizenship identification. A driver’s licence doesn’t provide that. I’ve seen people who can’t speak English come in – how could they be citizens?
cgh: “This is why voter identification is necessary. It’s done in just about every other meaningful democracy in the world. Why does the US have a problem with people having to identify themselves?”
The US doesn’t have a problem with it, just one particular American political party does. The same party that depends on churning out as many fraudulent votes as possible. The same party actively fighting Florida and other states in their efforts to remove deceased people from the active voter registry. The same party that has setup last minute voter registration schemes. The same party that “finds” bags full of uncounted ballots when elections are close.
That’s why they are so opposed to voter ID laws. It would throw a major monkey wrench in their plans.
All the more reason to cheat. And yes they will.
MissAnthropy at July 29, 2012 7:07 PM
Agreed there is a lot of merit to the suspicion that OBOZO lost and McCain won….that’s how bad it appears to be ….
“True the Vote” made a small impression on the 2010 midterms and the DEMONcRATs are pi$$ed….actually desperate to stop voter ID.
Peggy, baby, don’t be like that. You know I’m still good for it.
MissAnthropy,
also, the party that the more recounting they do , the more votes for democrats they find ( example off the top of my head; Al Franken )
“I’ve seen people who can’t speak English come in – how could they be citizens?
Posted by: ET at July 29, 2012 7:04 PM ”
ET….I speak,read,and write Russian, Ukranian,and English,fluently.( I also speak German).I have been at voting booths,and have supported,and translated for,those who cannot speak English.( Only in Russian and Ukranian,as I do not read Deutsche).You do not need to speak Canadianese to be a citizen.IMHO,those who speak Slavic languages are more a citizen of this country then those who speak any other(Arabic springs to mind).My oldest daughter,who speaks,reads,and is in the process of learning to write,Cantonese,attests to this fact.(Tried to tell her Mandarin,but hey,she’s young) It is not so much how you talk,read,or write,but what values you hold.90%,unfortunately not all,Slavic speaking people adore what we have here in Canada.They have seen a hell we haven’t.Ditto the Chinese.
My point is,it is the persons VALUES,not language,the determines whether they would make a good Canadian or not.
Learning Russian,Ukranian,and German did not make me a better Canadian,it showed me how to look for,and see,the same values in another person,that I,as a Canadian,value.And they are there.Freedom of FREEDOM,freedom to have a different opinion,freedom to be a leftard,freedom to love,honour,and respect others,freedom to be yourself,as long as you do not hurt anybody else.But they,and I,also realize,there is a limit that others want to put on those freedoms.And those people must be stopped.
As the saying goes(paraphrased)…..I may disagree with what you say,but I will defend to the death you’re right to say it,but you may not like the outcome.
justthinkin- the legal requirements for citizenship require ‘an adequate knowledge of English or French’.
“Adequate knowledge of English or French means the ability to speak one of Canada’s official languages well enough to communicate with people. An applicant must know enough English or French to understand other people and for others to understand them.”
This includes such things as,
•your ability to understand basic spoken statements and questions, and
•your ability to communicate basic information or respond to questions.
For example, as part of your interaction with departmental staff or as part of your written test or your interview with a citizenship judge, you will be expected to:
•answer simple questions on familiar topics, using short sentences;
•show that you know enough words for basic everyday communication;
•tell a simple story about everyday activities;
•speak about something you did in the past (or will do in the future);
•give simple everyday instructions and directions; and
•express satisfaction or dissatisfaction.”
The language one speaks has zilch to do with one’s values. But, legal citizenship in Canada requires that you can speak, adequately, either French or English.
[And by the way, written Chinese is the same in Cantonese or Mandarin; I learned Mandarin.]
A hardcore captialist for President
There isn’t a hardcore bone in Romney’s body. He’s hardcore softcore.
There is no evidence of serious voter fraud in the US. There are problems with the registration rolls. I support voter ID as long as it isn’t government ID ie REAL ID. That’s just playing into the hands of the Security State.
Regarding the polls: those unenthusiastic Dems WILL turn up, happy or no. They don’t know what they like but they know what they hate.
I’m glad the polls skew towards the Dems if that keeps the polls close. Don’t want Republican voters staying home thinking it’s in the bag.
LAS at July 29, 2012 9:37 PM
“There is no evidence of serious voter fraud in the US.”
Is this evidence you are a muslim…..engaging in takiya?
There were a multitude of dead voters, felons, illegals and multiple voting in that recent Wisconsin recall election….Documented….even several bus-loads of union members from Michigan….
You have the nerve of a canal horse…or a DEMONcRAT……….
ET…take your legal requirements,and stuff them.There are for more many French speaking people here in Canada who are against freedom,then there are Russians.Most frogs are socialists,and are proud of it.If I speak the truth,sorry to upset you,but you will lose.
justthinkin – the requirement that citizenship applicants have a reasonable ability to speak and understand English or French aren’t my legal requirements. They are the requirements of Canada.
This has nothing to do with the political filiations, which you seem to assume are embedded in a language, but with our government rules.
So, whether you assume that all people who speak French are socialists and all people who speak Russian are not socialists is neither relevant nor empirically valid. I’m referring to and only to, the factual laws of Canadian citizenship. Facts not assumptions.
My comment referred only to election sites, where I have seen people come to the site who cannot speak or understand even basic English (eg, asking for identification, asking them to put the ballot in the box, asking their name) – and yet, claim to have citizenship. I don’t understand how such a claim has validity, and I feel that only citizens should vote in this country.
Jeeze you guys, what’s with the ET bashing? Lighten up a little, save your liver cells.
The requirements are what they are. Not really sure what’s bugging you about what ET is saying, as he is certainly not attacking any of these people.
It is odd that anyone old enough to vote and is a citizen of Canada wouldn’t be able to speak English or French well enough to get the basics of voting. However I don’t think it would be voter fraud – much more likely they got through the citizenship process somehow.
I’m from a very rural area of Canada and the returning officers are people who’ve known me from birth and still insist I show ID before I vote. When I was away in northern BC it wasn’t a very complicated process but I did have to very clearly prove I was a citizen and local resident for a certain length of time before I was allowed to vote. That’s not to say voter fraud doesn’t happen in this country, just that in my experience citizenship has been tested.
If the Republicans win this election, they should introduce some federal law that requires proof of US citizenship at the polling station before they can vote….heck we do it here in Canada and nobody objects.
This is a no-brainer and for the US who stand for democracy in the free world let’s this b.b. go on, the Democrats will be in power forever.
When I read about all the lies, b.s. coming from the Obama camp every day, I start to worry about the cerebral expansion of the average American. Anybody who can’t see through the Obama lies, deceit, etc and blind. I can tell in one minute that this man is a racist, socialist, if not communist who will flood the US government with people of the same mind set……look at who he surrounds himself with, Wright Ayers, Jones, Pelosi who are all a bunch of lefties, terrorists, crooks, etc. Maybe Americans will wake up and open their eyes in November.
ET:
If speaking French or English is a requirement of Canadian citizenship then someone forgot to tell Immigration Canada that in Vancouver. Hugh number of Chinese and East Indians do not speak English!
Voter fraud in US elections has existed for decades. Democrats are particularly good at it. It must be from their union roots. How do you think JFK won the ’62 presidency?
ET I am not critizing as I respect your posts. I believe you are correct that knowledge of either French or English is now a requirement of Canadian citizenship at this time. I think this was instituted by Hon. Minister of Immigration, J. Kenney. Prior to that, under the Libs. immigration law was not so precise on language requirements eg for sponsored parents or grandparents.
mikewa – I was quoting, word for word, the regulations posted by the government for citizenship application. Why someone like justthinkin would take such umbrage to the government regulations is beyond me.
This requirement has been in place for years but previously, the proof of your language skills was simply placed in your reading and answering the multiple choice required written test. The new language requirement refers to the ability to understand spoken interactions not merely answering a multiple choice test.
I consider this a constructive agenda, for it encourages assimilation, encourages the immigrant to interact with people outside of their ‘identity group’ because it provides all diverse groups with the capacity to collaborate and interact with each other; they can speak to each other.
You can prove your language skills by showing evidence that you’ve taken a course, and these courses are available free at immigration centres.
As for people over the age of 55, the language ability is not required nor is there a written citizenship test. The only way that person would have gotten into Canada would have been by family sponsorship.
People applying for immigration as a skilled worker already have to provide linguistic evidence. It’s the people who are coming via family sponsorship or refugee applicants. The agenda is to encourage integration.
The Americans use voting machines already pre programed for RoBama. The voting machines have been outsourced to Spain (a probable Soreass sponser). Anyone who knows anything about computer programing knows that these machines can be told how to ‘read’. The GOP have already proven that the outcome can be ‘pre- determined’ in the state Primaries – the worst choice for the citizens is the lead candidate – Mitty Romney. Ron Paul was the people’s choice (see Iowa straw poll) but the big gument wants O!romney Mitt/Barak to use for the continuation of the planned one world gument state slave farm.
Voting is a bad joke if these machines are used, ID is just a sideline to keep the citizens occupied and away from paper ballots.
There is no evidence of serious voter fraud in the US
– said LAS
and with ludicrous comments like this, there is no evidence we should take you seriously