H/T to “a different bob” who rightly notes that “This is bad news for the CBC”.
“You know, it’s over $200-billion budget, hundreds of thousands of people, and sometimes not everyone gets the message,” Mr. Kenney said. “I think there is a tendency to be a little bit naive in Canada. We’re so self-congratulatory about the success of our model of pluralism and diversity that surely no one could really mean ill in Canada…. We don’t necessarily all subscribe to Canadian values, and we should be willing to recognize those that don’t.”
He gave the example of discovering last year that the Canadian Islamic Congress had been providing sensitivity training sessions to the Canadian Air Transportation Security Authority.
“No comment,” he said. “They’re no longer doing that.”
Be sure to read to the end. I want this guy for Prime Minister.
Be sure to read to the end. I want this guy for Prime Minister.
Posted by Kate at 9:57 AM
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
There is not much difference between Immigration Minister Jason Kenney and all the Liberal Party Immigration Ministers of the last 40 years.
“He guessed right,” said the questioner, Gabe De Roche, recruiting manager for the campus Liberal club.
Funny, he seemed genuinely surprised that a Conservative could actually make an educated guess about something without much effort. I think the downfall of the left in this country will be brought about by their own lack of insight into people. They assume everybody is stupid except for them. If you constantly under estimate your opponent eventually he will win the battle.
If this was poker I would always “slow play” these guys. Let them think they always have the winning hand until it’s time to lay the cards down.
Thanks Bob for catching that one, Amazing. Imagine what could be done for taxpayers if these Groups were cut from the Teet.
We should be aware also as to “When & Under Who these Handouts” were initiated, Of course we all Know the answer to that & Why.
I met Kenney during the last campaign, when he met various Chinese community leaders at my candidate’s Richmond Hill HQ. He was respectful, acknowledged that the government had work to do in getting foreign credentials recognized, and appreciated the desire for a fast track on immigration, but also responded that the government had a lot of work to do on the immigration file to ensure security, and weeding out immigrants who are coming to Canada purely for state benefits. He was calm and unflappable, and seemed to get the respect of everyone in the room (which included some obviously Persian/Arab spectators).
Didn’t work on the hustings, though. The Liberals took both the heavily Chinese ridings of Richmond Hill and Markham.
I respond to today’s (yawn) ransom note racism dumbassery on my blog.
Remember when being young, educated and ‘liberal’ meant you were proud of your ability to think independently, instead of having a Party Hack do your ‘thinking’ for you?
sigh.
Those aren’t anti-Semites, those are potential Liberal voters!
/Lib thought.
I think that the government can’t fund any ‘anti-specific-group’ societies. That is, it can’t fund a group, whether Islamic or Judaic or Sikh or.. that is specifically hostile to other people as members of a group.
I think, very strongly, that Canada should adopt what Australia developed in 2007. Australia has a document which any visa entrant and any immigrant entrant must sign; this document acknowledges that they must accept the ‘normative rules’ of Australian society which include “equality of gender, the rule of law, palriamentary democracy and a spirit of egalitarianism that embraces mutual respect, tolerance, fair play and compassion’..equality of opportunity for individuals…Australian citizenship is a shared identity, a common bond..
It’s about time we moved into developing the notion of a Canadian identity rather than acting as a Hotel for Multicultural Separate Groups who close their doors to others and demand personal room service.
Oh please please please please, when you dump Harper later this year, please please please please replace him with Kenney.
I, the Liberal Party of Canada, Michael Ignatieff and Canadians will thank you forever.
Hey ted you might want to go and read over some of iggies comments before he took the reins of the oppostion before you start commenting on kenny.Hell kate how do you attract all these libtards,i thought they were all at the globe and mail.
Yes ted, because your feelings and emotions and deeply programmed bigotry outweighs Kenney’s obvious intelligence, competence and solid Canadian values in your little mind. Don’t worry, some day some future federal government may restore funding to anti-semetic groups.
Actually I like this policy – hypocritical as it is coming from someone who has campaigned for and spoken at rallies on Parliament Hill for a banned terrorist group himself.
It’s not this policy that would ensure the Liberals stayed in government forever if the Conservatives chose him to replace Harper later this year.
There was a party two weeks ago in one big hotel in Toronto and it was made for Invitation of Muslim for Iraninan embasy planed to talk with assitant of Ahmadinigad who is father in law to Ahmadinigad ‘s son and 500 people had dinner in that night to talk how to link Iran and Canada economic relatioshiop get closer. On other hand there was Anti Iran goverment protest was screaming out side of buidling who was include most of them were Iraninan comonist and Iraninan Hebezb Todeh or shahi and Iraninan who their family was executed or Iraninina who did not like women right in Iran was standing and protest for this gathering of Iranian embasy.
Iran embasy also hired so many under covers FBI and Rcmp and police of Canada who took people out or warn for arrest of them saying this people has right to say their talk you can stay in the end and write or ask your question but do not interupt thier gathering it went to too much force from Toronot Police to get so many people out of building as I heard.
YOu can talk easy or made life difficult to say your opinion while some time there is nothing to talk among two parties has not share of opionin at all while security was involve and best thing to say your opinion if you really like to opposition hear your words nice to at least they know what is your objective if lead to violance nobody listen to anybody I guess
security among both parties of difference is not only in Canada but also one group of people in one country who do not know how to talk and not made other angry to know what they are talking about
people who hate each other should not talk to each others
peopel who do not like each otehr can say their differnces
people who like each other should listen to other part of story and not take anything blindly
freedom of speech depends on amount of hate you talk not amount differnces you say I bleive
nobody like people who act totally different with them if at least see some similarity may link
“I, the Liberal Party of Canada, Michael Ignatieff and Canadians will thank you forever.”
Oh well ….. 2 out of 3 ain’t bad. I think you will find out that most Canadians are in no mood for any more Liberal elitism, thievery and stupidity.
However, please feel free to continue being delusional.
Ted, it’s a sign of arrogance, a behavioural characteristic predominant among Liberals, that makes you self-define yourself as speaking for Canadians.
You, as a Liberal, probably aren’t even aware of what you said, so I’ll remind you. You said –
“I, the Liberal Party of Canada, Michael Ignatieff and Canadians will thank you forever.”
You have the right, as far as I’m aware, to speak only for yourself. I’m not aware that you are the spokesman for the Liberal Party. Or Michael Ignatieff. And I’m very aware that you have absolutely no right to speak on behalf of any Canadian – other than yourself.
To Warren K., Your comments are easier to read because of better grammar, when you write as Ted, but are unintelligible when you express as new. Being spokesman for the liberal party perhaps you could answer why Canada would want a closer fiscal relationship with Persia before a positive political relationship is realized? And what is the relievance of Imadinnerjacket being a “comonist”, does that mean that one day he will be a real boy?
I, as a Canadian, can confirm that neither Ted nor the Liberal Party nor Ignatief speaks on my behalf…nor on my families behalf…nor on behalf of most of my friends and acquaintenances.
To be accurate, Ted, you should have said “…and some Canadians…”.
So here’s a somewhat related question (since this is about the issue of Statism):
What’s more important to conservatives, preservation of the great Western tradition of individual liberty and a healthy democratic society where people can pursue happiness……or whether you believe in evolution?
As Kate suggested, I read to the end and found myself quite thrilled that a Canadian politician could have spoken this way. I especially enjoyed his wit about the Arab cat not being qualified to run language programmes with his redundant phrase “professional whores”, all whores being professional by definition. We desperately need more political wit of this kind.
HOWEVER, there was one screaming howler: his mention of British outreach as a template for Canadian policy. Is he nuts? British “outreach” involves “engaging” islamic extremists as a antidote to “violent islamic extremists” a truly lunatic idea, which essentially says: a) you can have whatever you want just as long as you don’t HURT us and a) to hell with moderate muslims who don’t subscribe to jihad.
I don’t think he succeeded with his claim that the de-funding was unrelated to the CAF whore insult. Moroever, notwithstanding my strong support of Zionism, I’d prefer that he NOT refer specifically to anti-semitism.
I don’t like the idea of government trying to evaluate the ideology of these groups for the determination of funding purposes.
I’d like to see ALL these groups de-funded. The financial meltdown is a golden opportunity to do this.
I remain profoundly cynical about “dialogue” and “outreach” which I always read as, respectively, “taking dictation” and “appeasement”.
Ted wrote:Actually I like this policy – hypocritical as it is coming from someone who has campaigned for and spoken at rallies on Parliament Hill for a banned terrorist group himself.
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What banned terrorist group would you be referring to?
A name or an apology.
me no dhimmi – I agree that the Canadian taxpayer should not be funding multicultural groups. The groups and their membership should fund themselves.
However, I think that the Canadian government should have that entrance – visa and immigration – requirement that mirrors the Australian one. That is, we should be insisting that Canada is a nation not a hotel, and that we as a nation have a specific set of values which must be accepted if you accept coming into this country as other than a tourist. We should be focused on developing this common identity of shared values.
I think that the British strategy, and I may be mistaken, refers to working with NON-terrorist groups in the same ethnic domain, encouraging them to reject militant agendas. This occurred in Iraq where the population themselves finally turned against Al Qaeda. I think this is an important strategy.
As for the MSM attacks on Christians, that’s despicable and ought to be queried; that is, it ought to be confronted as blatantly as that ‘do you believe in evolution’? Some people ought to ask these reporters – Do you believe in freedom of religion? Do you support the right to be Christian in Canada?
For anyone to state that IF you are Christian THEN you cannot be a government minister..heh..that’s a violation of their Charter Rights.
How ’bout some support for Mr. Breitkreitz soon, he’s really taking a beating on CTV.
Does withdrawing funding for organisations that support anti-semitic and terrorist groups mean the Liberal Party of Canada will have it’s taxpayer funding revoked?
The CBC still runs to CAIR and Sheema Khan for the truth about Islam and Sharia law.
CAIR has now been proven to aid and abet terrorism via the Bogus Charity that they funneled canadian donation to in the USA, Nihad Awad from CAIR had praised Maher Arar for his $12 million dollar Financial Jihad against canada for Alleged harm in Arar’s homeland of Syria, Awad it tied to Hamas as a avid supporter which the FBI is now reviewing.
Arar’s wife is Palestinian and Pro-Sharia law as CAIR is along with Sheema Khan and Muhammad Elmasry , Dr.Khan tried to Sue 2 canadians into silence and have the CRTC remove the License from a Quebec radio station because the truth about CAIR was coming out that they are a Propaganda wing for their Whahhabi masters in Saudi Arabia.
If it wasn’t so sad I would have laughed at Sheema Khan being put on the “Human Rights” version for the Canadians ACLU thugs that want to ban everything and paint all white people as Islamophobes and racists.
The NDP and CBC aided and abetted CAIR’s lawyers who back Arar’s $400 million lawsuit for alleged harm which was never proven by Justice O’Connor, but the MSM was too lazy to research Arar to see that he was a draft-Dodger and got a gun in 1993 , nor did the CBC bother to report that Arar left his family in canada to live in Boston near the Airport prior to 9/11/01 and was seen at a Jihad friendly Mosque.
I say we review all tax dollar funded groups and events to make sure they are in line with making canada a better place and want unity and tolerance for all persons.
This includes CAIR-Canada that lied to the media about the ties to the US CAIR that was given over 70% of the Tax-exempt donation on our soil which didn’t meet the guidelines for the Charity Status.
Sheema Khan denied the story until a Document with her signature on it had exposed her lie because she asserted to the CRA Office that CAIR-CAN was indeed a Chapter of the USA CAIR and not a Original Canada-based Charity to meet the needs of local canadians as the donations should according to the law.
This was an overt cause of Tax-Fraud that the Liberals did nothing about , but it should be stopped right now and CAIR should be held to account by an Inquiry for Arar’s ties to the Hamas friendly Org. and what ties the NDP had to a pro-Jihad group that crusaded for Sharia law to replace oue Charter Of Rights.
BTW
CAIR had pulled their CTV video from the website which had Nihad Awad telling CTV that they supported Arar since 2002 , seems that the scam is over and CAIR now wants to distance itself from Arar and the Bogus Charity that Arar himself claimed he was to get a job at befor his name was smeared.
I wonder if the CBC will at lease try to rescue their image by exposing the ties to Hamas and Terrorism funding by CAIR , and start asking Arar the tough questions about his 1993 gun permit and if he told his wife about it because it was only 3 years after the Montreal Massacre by Gamil Gharbi in 1989 .
Does that mean I have to paint over the swastikas on my truck doors?? (Just kidding.)
History proof so many example of hate and terror against humanity some small group came and claim for made power and money and religion to force others to made some things full of hate out of it
even I did review history of jousalim which was first house of god ( allah) was chose after changed to Makeh city you can saw
first Christian had that city in thier power
then Salhedin Muslim person took that city back
then Jewish came there claim for that city
then Christian American and England in revenge of history they were may thinking pop is not happy how about use Jewish to take hold of joursalim land back and made Arab and Israli and west all terrorist activities over holly land could all share and now in not control by Muslim any more
keep harrasing and scaring to jail to kill to steal to destroy humanity under terrorist activites all is only revengae and game of people
who has flash back of thier bad memory never go away out of thier mind and those who believe they are good only because they are Canadain and all immigrant are bad or see life upside down of illusion nobody know which mother breast feed them or baby feed them of hate or animal blood feed with them with revenge and irritate people as tools for seperation and kind of enjoyment in thier mind need seek pshcologicalsadness and discusing of history attached to thier mistery mind of them
when you look at them closly they are not human realy! amaze me wonder how just look like human it not act like it
The entire thrust of multicultural funding, the bastard child of biligualism, should be re-examined.
EVERY group, not just anti-semitic, every group who would like to import their conflict into Canada and insist that the Canadian governement should do something about it, should have their funding cut off.
This is not a new concept.
I remember Liberal ministers in the past saying immigrants are welcome in Canada, where they are given an opportunity for a fresh start.
If you scratch even further, I believe that Kenney can get all-party support for a ‘leave the conflicts of your home country back in your home country and work for the good of Canada’ way of thinking.
As a child of immigrant parents, I understand the troubles my parents faced and I am grateful this country gave their children a chance to become productive citizens.
Multicultural funding, as stupid as it was and still is, at the very least should not be used to advance political agendas. Period.
I would not shed any tears if the entire department was shut down and Canada adopt more of melting-pot outlook.
doowleb: PMOI/MEK – http://www.blogscanada.ca/egroup/PermaLink.aspx?guid=15913f1d-fcab-4b1d-be35-9c1691ed2e39
Azphiks- Re: ctv mp taking beating, gun door prize
Go look at the Comments in the article, he is not taking that much of a beating Infact i would suspect the comments will be closed soon as they are not going the liberal way.
Ted, Ted, Ted, have you no shame? Linking to a page that a) mentions you by name; b) links to Robert McClelland; c) links to Canadian Cerberus, which for some odd reason has gone mams up :~)
The only thing missing is a quote from Ti-Guy.
Ted,
Your referring to Kenny’s support for the PMOI.
You are somewhat correct.
Paul Martin and the Liberals put this group on the terrorist list.
All European countries have removed this group from their terrorist list.
Canada should soon follow.
The Arab Foundation supports Hammas.
Hamas’s reason for being is to KILL all Jews.
PMOI are advocates for:
“The PMOI has won considerable political support in western countries, from politicians and activists, as it calls for a fully democratic Iran that endorses the free enterprise system with full rights for women and ethnic and religious minorities.
http://www.canada.com/news/story.html?id=1219856
Just more Liberal moonbattery from Paul Martin and the Catman.
Matt: It was the first link on the google search in response to doowleb who, I guess, doesn’t know how to do a google search himself.
Here’s a better link, just for you: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060824/kenney_rally_060824/20060824?hub=TopStories
And here’s a photo of him which is still up on the website of the National Council of Resistance of Iran, the political arm of the banned terrorist group: ncr-iran.org/content/view/1275/128/
Happy now.
Like I said, please choose Kenney when you dump Harper. I, Michael Ignatieff, the Liberal Party and Canadians all over the country will thank you.
So this means the Canadian Human Rights Commission will lose its funding as it has employed people who join anti-semitic organizations and post anti-semitic comments. It also prints these anti-semitic comments in its website for all to see. As some have noted the CHRC as probably the leading distributor of anti-semitic comment in Canada.
Doug
Anyone voting Liberal because they disagree with a large group of conservatives on the evolution debate were not voting Conservative anyway. Liberals are always trying to define what conservative “is”, and you are taking the bait. This is a non issue, the “center right” you speak of couldn’t care less if his/her political allies believes in god, it’s not a conservative trait. There is nothing wrong with conservatives having differing views on a number of subjects. The evolution debate on the other thread was a excellent discussion between friends. Ad homonym attacks by some trolls are to be expected, but most of all it was/is a very respectful debate. If you consider dissention of ideas a bad thing then you probably are not a conservative, that is a liberal trait.
I’ll repeat myself, conservatives(and right of center people) are interested in results and qualifications, this debate is about neither; therefore, those that consider this an “issue” were never in our tent, nor ever would be.
Re gord’s comment at March 19, 10:24 AM “I think the downfall of the left in this country will be brought about by their own lack of insight into people. They assume everybody is stupid except for them.”
Gord, that’s a standard viewpoint of all the West’s neo-liberal “progressives”. That struck me decades ago talking to American Democrats and has struck me since then, reading liberal writings and watching streaming videos of liberals on the Internet.
It’s a ideology that’s akin to a fundamentalist dogma. Leftist True Believers have The Truth and the rest of us are the ignorant masses that need to be guided by the enlightened True Believers. We need to be told what to do and not do; what to say and not say; what to think and not think.
The differences between a Canadian Grit, an American Democrat and a British Labourite are superficial. Their shared mindset are pretty congruent.
Doowleb: “All European countries have removed this group from their terrorist list.
Canada should soon follow.”
What’s this, you say? One man’s terrorist group is another man’s freedom fighter?
The reality that the group remains a banned terrorist group by the US, remains on the CIA terrorist watch and… Harper re-affirmed its status as a banned terrorist group despite Kenney and Stockwell Day’s support.
Please choose Kenney!
A CTV article from August 24, 2006, eh Ted? Man, that’s been doing a lot of damage to Kenney for all these years, hasn’t it?
What’s that? It hasn’t? I see. Well don’t you stop bringing it up, seeing as it makes you feel good.
dave in pa – agreed. The left are elitists; they assume that everyone ‘is stupid except for them”. Exactly. You said it perfectly:
It’s an “ideology that’s akin to a fundamentalist dogma. Leftist True Believers have The Truth and the rest of us are the ignorant masses that need to be guided by the enlightened True Believers. We need to be told what to do and not do; what to say and not say; what to think and not think.”
You can see that in Ted’s arrogant assumption that he speaks for Canadians. But that’s another aspect of the left; they always move into the fallacious tactic of popular appeal; they always try to inform us that ‘everyone’ supports their view. So, when Ted tells us that he speaks for all Canadians, he’s using this false argument of ‘ad populam’.
Matt: Not saying that this is why Kenney would be rejected by Canadians if he replaced Harper. His support of a terrorist group is just a small example of his self-righteous hypocrisy, that’s all. There are many other things that will ensure Canadians vote Liberal if Kenney gets elected.
So when you dump Harper, please pick Kenney. I will and every single Canadian now existing, ever existing or who will or might ever exist will thank you.
Hmmm, do I pick the hypocrit, or the liar/thief/cheater … man that’s a tough one. :~)
Well you won’t have to face that choice Matt. The liar/thief/cheater needs to step down as leader of the CPC before the hypocrit can run to replace him.
Lucky for you: you’ll likely never have to choose between them, you can choose both!
ted .as,,,,e don’t speak for me!
Ted, Ted, Ted, is this why your blog went the way of the dodo? Seriously, you have a demented man-crush on the Liberal Party of Canada (if there’s a Liberal version of Tiger Beat magazine, no doubt you have a subscription!), a kind of battered woman syndrome where no matter how many times they clobber us, as far as you’re concerned they still love you. You need help.
And, as I always say to Liberal supporters, I hope you’re getting a paper bag full of cash in exchange for your vote, otherwise you’re just a sucker.
Ah, c’mon Matt. It’s a beautiful sunny day, global warming is giving us a nice warm March, the snow and ice are pretty much all gone… time to lighten up just a bit. You set yourself up for that one, man. How could I resist?
Ted, except perhaps for the 5 million Canadians that voted Conservative last election. Kind of nul and voids anything else you may have to say, as you are likely exagerating.
Ya think, Anne?
Can anyone help me here? Slightly OT, but related to this issue:
Apparently, Sri Lankans, openly supporting the LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) with posters and flags, who marched en masse in Toronto a few days ago, are allowed to publicly protest because Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the right to the fundamental “freedom of peaceful assembly.” Although there was no violence as far as I’m aware, the thousands who marched badly disrupted rush hour traffic in the heart of downtown Toronto.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/603135
I would have thought that an outlawed terrorist group in Canada would not be protected by our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Does anyone know just who is protected under Section 2?
It seems to me that if an illegal terrorist group has the right of freedom of assembly in Canada, then there’s something wrong with the application of the Charter.
Any clarification of this point would be greatly appreciated.
I do not know why some need to keep repeat one word in intention to irritate others with no point to say
freedom of speech and hate speech is really confused or can be lead misleading or hardly can be distanguish becuase it is related to who do you talk and audience some may see more pleased of what you just said and other may got upset when we talk in political differences
why we talk because we have an idea may be stupid idea may be not may be get some solution may be only a big fat lies and gossip with no reference to it to made people seperated to bother that is all
some times we can adopt to changes some times can not or it is hard or next to impossible to change some basic of some relgion or thought
some talk long some to the point some has culture attached some do not
how we can made all people to like us
I see it IMPOISSIBLE
unless you pretend or some nice short small lies or do not say your opionion or do not show your real feeling toward them but it is better to talk in safe place to loose it all for some stupid mind
It all depends of level of your mental health or ill of how say what not suppose to say some word some places and control yourself and be patient
I some times pay some donation for some group of disable who brush with thier mouth and they are from neck to bottom are totally disable and not able to move thier body when they send me yearly post card in mail they are look happy face and still work with mouth who know they may sing and paint with thier mouth use while so many people call them able and use their tonge to seperate and made mor unhappy envionment. I was wonder if thier disablity pay those people who work with mouth brush paint while all thier neck to toes are disable
I mean all depend on audience to see you likeable to dislike your views it take times and years peopel used other people culture if they forced to work with them you can see Isreali and Palestinan live more than 50 years still do not like each others since they break all barrier and freedom and humanity right I guess
just try to be happy and forget some bad memory can help and find solution not stick to your gun
“I want this guy for Prime Minister.”
ME TOO!!!!!
I’ve long believed that ALL grants to all such groups – of every political and ethnic stripe – should be ended. If they were added up, I wonder what the sum total $$$$$$ would be?!?
‘Ted, Ted, Ted, is this why your blog went the way of the dodo?’
You cereal? Ted had a blog?
A vast readership I’m sure. What happened Ted? Got overwhelmed responding to the enormous crush of commenters so u had to gave it up. How did you explain it to ‘all Canadians’, stepping aside ‘to spend more time with the family’ or despite all the success ‘it just wasn’t your gig’