108 Replies to “How Do You Draw Hypocrisy?”

  1. It is still beyond me what Craig was arrested for. Staring at the stall doors eagerly while waiting for a free space to take a dump, tapping my foot trying to poo can get me arrested too, according to police?
    Or should I not worry because I am not a congressman? More questions than answers.
    Is there a law that says that tapping a foot is illegal?

  2. Wow, that’s an ingenious way of trying to divert attention from the fact that another Republican pled guilty in another sex scandal. This, in no way, reminds me that another Republican pled guilty in another sex scandal.
    Boy, those Republicans and those sex scandals. Wow.
    Must be the MSM’s fault.

  3. Geez, Aaron, get yourself up to date on the talking points. Craig is now being disowned by his own party for his men’s room shenanigans. That’s because the guy has PLED GUILTY! As usual, the Canadian right whingers are behind the news on this one:
    Lawmakers urge Craig to quit in sex scandal
    Reuters
    WASHINGTON
    Pressure for Sen. Larry Craig to resign mounted within his own party on Wednesday, two days after disclosures the Republican lawmaker pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct in a men’s toilet at an airport.
    Republican presidential contender John McCain, an Arizona senator, told CNN the incident was “disgraceful” and added, “When you plead guilty to a crime, you shouldn’t serve.”
    Other Republican lawmakers echoed McCain’s call, while Senate Republican leaders asked Craig, 62, a third-term senator from Idaho, to step down temporarily from his major committee assignments. A White House spokesman said, “We are disappointed in the matter.”
    Craig pleaded guilty earlier this month to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct after his arrest in June in an undercover sting operation at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport where police were targeting lewd behavior in the men’s toilet. News of the case became public on Monday.
    Craig, a vocal opponent of gay rights, delivered a statement in Idaho on Tuesday that he was not a homosexual and insisting he had done nothing wrong.
    “I am not gay, I never have been gay,” declared Craig, his wife at his side.
    Republican leaders on Tuesday asked the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate Craig’s guilty plea. He recanted the guilty plea on Tuesday, saying he agreed to a misdemeanor charge without consulting a lawyer and in hopes of disposing of the case quickly.
    Democrats have remained mostly silent about the case, but Craig received little support from his fellow Republicans.
    ‘CONDUCT UNBECOMING A SENATOR’
    Sen. Norm Coleman, a Minnesota Republican who is expected to face a tough re-election fight next year, said: “Senator Craig pleaded guilty to a crime involving conduct unbecoming a senator. He should resign.”
    In the U.S. House of Representatives, Republican Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan said of Craig, “I believe that he should step down as his conduct throughout this matter has been inappropriate for a U.S. senator.”
    Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, the second-ranking Republican in the Senate, who used to be in an amateur singing quartet with Craig, told Fox News, “I’m not ready to call for that,” when asked whether the senator should leave.
    A Washington watchdog group welcomed the Republican leadership’s decision to seek an ethics investigation against Craig but it questioned why they had not sought a similar probe of Sen. David Vitter of Louisiana, also a Republican.
    Vitter admitted a “serious sin” in July after he was linked to “D.C. Madam” Deborah Jeane Palfrey, who is accused of running a prostitution ring in Washington. She says it was a legal escort service.
    “The only possible interpretation of the Republicans’ differing reaction to the two cases is that Sen. Craig’s case involves gay sex. Apparently soliciting for heterosexual sex does not offend the ‘family values’ platform in the way that soliciting for gay sex does,” the Committee for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington said in a statement.
    News of the incident prompted Craig to resign as Idaho chairman of Republican Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign. Romney said it was “disgusting” that people in public office continued to disappoint.

  4. In the case you hadn’t noticed, this post is not about Craig, nor have I defended him.
    So, stay on topic and take any lengthy cut/pastes to your own blog.

  5. Q: Since when would the liberal media care about deviant sex kinks in bureaucrats after supporting Clinton and the gay political agenda?
    A: If the sexual deviat is a Conservative,,,then it’s not allowed

  6. I am confused. Does Ben Sargent speak out on morale values? Does he oppose homosexuality, or any kind of pornography?
    If he never attacked people for being gay, then how is he a hypocrite?
    Clarification please.

  7. I will add however this other observation: For the past several days I’ve been listening to talk radio hosts and guests who “can’t believe a man in his position wouldn’t know exactly where he was and what his actions meant” followed by “Holy crap! Sure glad I learned about this foot tapping code. Who knew?”
    That may not rise to the level of hypocrisy, but there certainly is a disconnect in evidence.

  8. No, you’ve said nothing about him at all on your blog – just like you say nothing about any Conservative/Republican who gets into trouble. But that’s OK, the MSM is the biased one right?

  9. For those who seem happy that this thing has happened to a Republicn I have two words for you:
    BARNEY FRANK
    Ring a bell? Of course not. Even though he was CONVICTED of running a male prositution ring outside of his D.C. apartment, the Liberal MSM gave him a free pass.

  10. I’m not a news service. I’m a private citizen. Learn the difference
    Yes, you are a private citizen who continuously criticizes the media for their alleged bias and then turns around and engages in the same behaviour. That’s what rings hollow about this site. If you were really as outraged by their behaviour why would you stoop to their level?

  11. A Pulitzer Prize Winning cartoonist convicted of “pleasuring himself” in an adult book store should in my view refrain from commenting on men’s room footsie nudging Senators.
    Kettle – pot, no?

  12. If we wanted to read outrage about Craig, we had enough of that in the MSM. Kate fills the vacuum, that’s why I keep coming back, not for stupid comments from the left.

  13. Dodos, I believe Kate is not so much outraged, as she is pointing out things to provoke thought and debate, nothing hollow about this site pilgrim….

  14. it’s about hypocrisy not outrage.
    The cartoonist is being hypocritical, that’s all Kate is pointing out.
    Dodo, Johnny Ringo et al . . . it’s not that difficult to figure it out . . . for anyone who has completed grade 3.

  15. I’m not a news service. I’m a private citizen. Learn the difference.
    Posted by: Kate at August 31, 2007 4:33 PM”
    hypocricy here too ……

  16. Craig the individual is an admitted sexual deviant. He did plead guilty to a charge of lude behaviour.
    He is not the entire Republican party, nor is any other individual conservative who may have been charged for some sort of creepy sexual thingy. I cannot think of many.
    The Left still has the record of their president getting blown in the Oval office. Lest we forget.

  17. The cartoonist is only being hypocritical if the cartoonist was pushing “Family values” or the like.
    His whole thesis is that Craig was doing so, and himself being hypocritical. (I don’t know if that’s true, not giving a damn about Craig or his career, but that’s the thesis presented.)
    (Hypocrisy is, remember, actions and stated values (words) not matching. The cartoonist need not be someone who would be acceptable to a family values caucus in order to point out fairly that someone who’s part of one is not acting appropriately.
    I see no hypocrisy on his part, from the available evidence. Now, if he’s spoken out against Freaky Consensual Sex or Soliciting In Public or the like, that’s another matter… but not in evidence.)

  18. OK Dodo, try to follow this.
    The MSM claims to report the news without any bias.
    Kate runs a blog.
    Kate freely admits her conservative/libertarian bias.
    She is not engaging in the same behavior because she does not hide her bias.
    If the Toronto Star had a banner saying “we support the NDP” or CBC ran a discaimer saying “Proud supporters of the Liberal Party of Canada” there would be no problem.
    The issue comes up when a news agency claims to be non-bias but doesn’t act like it. This problem is worse when it is a publicly funded agency.
    Now run off and become extinct.

  19. Wow, sure glad you pulled Bill Clinton into this…but isn’t it a tad, er, hypocritical to point this out when two Republicans have recently been the focus of sex scandals. To say nothing of Congressman Foley’s email shenanigans to his male assistant last year, etc.
    Here’s the hypocrisy, Kate: a bunch of conservatives desperate to ignore the sex scandals in their own party, shrug it off by pointing to Democrats, who they claim to be morally superior to. That’s hypocrisy. And unbelievably stupid. Sure, Clinton messed around. Aren’t you guys supposed to be better than that? Seems Republicans can’t keep their pants on – especially around the fellas.
    Weird, innit?

  20. Did anyone record the CBC Newsworld interview at 11:30 a.m.? Gosh, I wish had turned one my new dvd recorder for that interview. One of the most biased, loaded interviews I have ever seen. PLEASE someone find this interview for me. Again, it was on @ exactly 11:26 or 11:27 Pacific Time.

  21. JohnnyRingo:
    There is one slight difference here. That being the RNC has actually asked Craig to quit. And if he doesn’t they’re going to withdraw all financial support to him. To the best of my knowledge the DNC never asked Clinton to quite.
    And the latest news is Craig is going to resign this weekend.

  22. Kate,
    You must sure be getting the commie Kool Aid drinkers all fired up about something. They’re coming out of the woodwork. They’re all so sensitive you know, we can’t hurt their feelings and get away with it.
    LOL! bunch of losers.

  23. Bill Clinton’s extra marital sexual encounter in the white house was not the first for a president nor will it likely be the last. His unforgivable sin was to lie to Congress, the American people and his family about it. Does anybody not remember his famous quote,”I did not have sexual relations with that wonam.”? Clinton’s politics may be questionable but his lack of integrity made him unfit for office.

  24. Sorry Brian but I have to disagree. I think his worst sin was to drop bombs on a few countries and kill a few thousand people to try to deflect the press from the story.

  25. no doubt Craig is a hypocrite.
    the Canadian MSM is making quite a deal of it when they celebrate Scott Brisons marriage and Svends gayness. and ignore Bill Graham and Lawrence Metherel his underage boyfriend.

  26. Ahhhh, once again if the moonbat trolls here cannot read properly. They will not admit to missing the point but will turn and try to dis Kate. And as usual, they get put in their place.
    And for the record. I agree with Joe. Whether or not the commentary is written or visual, it is certainly a case of pot-kettle.

  27. Dear friends from the left, could you please finally explain to me one thing: is it Okay to be gay or not? I have been getting different information all the time. When a leftard is gay it is Okay, but when a right winger is gay it is not. Do I understand it correctly now?
    Not that I have a clue whether Craig is a gay or not.

  28. Who cares? This man is not Canadian and has no bearing on anything that happens in this country. Let’s stop talking about him and get on to something more important

  29. heres a canadian story
    Why hasn’t Bill Graham denied having relations with Lawrence Metherel?
    Lawrence Metherel did an interview in a Canadian gay magazine a while back about having relations with Bill Graham while receiving support payments from him. That story has been circulating for several years now. The media is afraid to tell the general public about it, fearing legal action for talking about something so outrageous without any “evidence”. At the same time, strangely, Bill Graham, to my knowledge, has yet to deny having sex with a 15-year old boy. How bizarre is that?
    Check out this conversation on the not-so-conservative “Vive le Canada” site. Here’s an attempt to defend Graham:
    http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2002/feb/020219.html
    MAGAZINES SAY CANADA’S FOREIGN MINISTER HAD SEXUAL AFFAIR WITH 15-YEAR-OLD MALE PROSTITUTE
    Claim Canada’s Foreign Minister Is An Admitted Bisexual
    OTTAWA, February 19, 2002 (LSN.ca) – Canada’s newly appointed Foreign Affairs Minister, Bill Graham, is a darling of the homosexual activist community having constantly supported pro-homosexuality initiatives including homosexual marriage. However, last year a Toronto-based homosexual magazine called Fab published an interview with Lawrence Metherel, a former male prostitute, who claimed to have had a sexual relationship with the Graham, dating back to 1980 when Metherel was 15.
    The story has gone unchallenged by Graham’s constituency office, which admitted to LifeSite that it had heard of the story. As a result the issue has become a major embarrassment for Canada as it was picked up in the US publication Front Page Magazine, which repeated the allegations Feb 14 in a story entitled “Bill Graham: Canada’s Latest Shame.”
    The mainstream press in Canada has touched on the issue in a secondhand fashion as the TorStar corporation’s Eye weekly Toronto paper has come out in defense of Graham. Eye columnist Sky Gilbert wrote on Feb 14 that “the first thing you need to know is that Bill Graham is gay,” and goes on to say that any interest in Graham’s controversial past is evidence of homophobia.
    While his bio on the website of the Department of Foreign Affairs says: “He and his wife Catherine have two children: Katherine Helen and Patrick William,” Eye says, “Almost everyone in the gay community knows that Graham is gay.” Moreover, Eye calls Metherel “an ex-boyfriend of Graham’s” and Graham’s “spurned lover.”
    Canadian delegations to the United Nations, under previous foreign affairs Ministers, have been one of the world leaders in pushing a mandated radical sexual agenda on the rest of the world, with total disregard for national cultural and religious traditions. Mr. Graham’s appointment begs the question of just how much further the Liberal government is determined to advance this agenda.
    Calls to the Press Secretary of Minister Graham were not returned by press tim

  30. I think what Kate is basically trying to illustrate from the article is that “People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.” I could be wrong.

  31. Lois,
    Don’t be too naive. If you think for one minute that what goes on in the USA isn’t as important or more important to us than what goes on in our little demented dominion, you are going to be very surprised and very confused at some point in your little Disneyland life.

  32. Where’s the story with Bill Graham? How is that a story that anybody should pursue? The personal sex life of one of Canada’s finest Foreign Affairs ministers in recent memory has no bearing. I’ve met him on several occasions, and while I disagreed with some of what the Liberals did on the international front, I found Graham to be a highly intelligent individual and principled on the job. As to his personal life, it’s none of my business, because it played no role in his professional life (until Cheryl Gallant tried to raise it in the House by heckling about his “boyfriend.” Of course, she wasn’t able to repeat her comments outside the house, so she kept her smear to herself.)
    Senator Craig was charged, and pled guilty, for soliciting sex in a public toilet. Marc Foley was disgraced for sending sexually suggestive emails to a male staffer. Senator Vitter admitted to his links with a prominent DC escort agency. Bill Clinton conducted an illicit affair while on the job, and lied about the nature of his affair.
    Bit of a difference there.

  33. Yeah, Dan, you could be wrong and you are. Sargent isn’t throwing stones from a glass house, nor is he a pot calling the kettle black.
    The “left”is often accused on this site of lacking reader comprehension skills. What we have here is a demonstration of the usual suspects’ utter lack of basic word comprehension.
    Hypocrisy is practicing what you preach against, ala Sen. Larry Craig. (and no, Doug, Barney Frank wasn’t convicted of running a prostitution ring. He did, however, receive a reprimand from the House Ethics Committee for hiring a male prostitute, while one member voted for the more serious punishment of censure….none other than….you guessed it….then House member, Larry Craig.)
    No, hypocrisy is chairborne blogging Tories, beating the drums of war from, and only from, behind the security of their keyboards.
    Hypocrisy is farmers and the politicians who shill for them, railing against big gov’t. and the public sector, while cultivating an entitled to their entitlements mentality, with their hand in the public cookie jar from cradle to grave.
    Hypocrisy would seem to be the exclusive domain of the right.

  34. so JohnnyRingo , having 15 year old paid boyfriends and being married isnt unusual to you?
    actually I think that would be a heck of a compromising situation for a foreign affairs minister.
    it didnt seem noteworthy to the MSM either but they seem to be all over Craig.

  35. Aaron: Dear friends from the left, could you please finally explain to me one thing: is it Okay to be gay or not? I have been getting different information all the time. When a leftard is gay it is Okay, but when a right winger is gay it is not. Do I understand it correctly now?
    No, you don’t. Being gay, whether you’re left- or right-wing, is perfectly fine. Being privately gay, while publicly condemning homosexuality in the name of “family values,” is far less so. In recent history, politicians who fall into the latter camp have been more often than not (though not exclusively) right-of-centre.

  36. Here again, the conservative fascination with sex. Obsession with Bill Clinton, who cares if he got a blow job in the Oval Office. I couldn’t care if Craig got his dick sucked by a nun in front of the Pope. The point is: conservatives are the ones judging the morality of others.
    You are all right that those living in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones, but I think you are a bit confused as to which one of us is in the house.

  37. looks like JohnnyRingo is a lieberal insider.several times.???? several times????
    “Where’s the story with Bill Graham? How is that a story that anybody should pursue? The personal sex life of one of Canada’s finest Foreign Affairs ministers in recent memory has no bearing. I’ve met him on several occasions, and while I disagreed with some of what the Liberals did on the international front, I found Graham to be a highly intelligent individual and principled on the job. As to his personal life, it’s none of my business, because it played no role in his professional life (until Cheryl Gallant tried to raise it in the House by heckling about his “boyfriend.” Of course, she wasn’t able to repeat her comments outside the house, so she kept her smear to herself.)”

  38. I don’t presume to judge a man by rumors alone, unlike you. However, Craig and all the other Republicans who’ve been caught with there pants down – and admit to it – seem immune from your morality drive. What gives?

  39. Why Ben Sargent’s cartoon isn’t hypocritical: he’s not mocking those who cross-dress, he’s mocking those who do so privately while espousing “family values” publicly. To my knowledge, Mr. Sargent has never publicly claimed to be a defender of conservative morality and values, so the fact of his own sexual misadventures hardly makes him now a hypocrite.
    Kate, your lame argument verges on “He who is without sin…” territory.

  40. that would be “their pants ”
    morality drive — I think Craig is a slime,Foley a slime and to even it out Clinton a slime too. and Bill Graham as well.
    I hope you didnt shake Grahams hand.

  41. You can tell how soundly Kate has been spanking the lefties that they actually consider this a ‘gotcha’ moment.

  42. I find it impossible to respect married men who have affairs with underage male prostitutes. But that’s me, i’m one of those cranky, conservative types.
    I’m sure johnny ringo travels in more liberal circles where these affairs are common place, and that affects his attitude.

  43. “one of Canada’s finest Foreign Affairs ministers in recent memory” – Are you for real? He of the ‘soft diplomacy’. Being gay has litte to do with quality of a persons’ professional endeavours. And while he may be one of the finest gay MP’s in recent memory, he has certainly left a lot to be desired as a foreign affairs minister. Ask (or google) William Sampson, Zahra Kazemi et al. Unless you are talking about his ‘hidden agenda’ as opposed to real results.

  44. I have to go with whitney on this one. Married men having sex with anyone, male or female, is wrong, just plain wrong. Throw in an underage male prostitute, or any male prostitute, then it is wrong and sick. You want to be gay, put on a bra and lead the next pride parade. F@#$ing hypocrites!

  45. Jeez, sex, politics and hypocrisy, how far back shall we go?
    Better not start on the Kennedy clan, we’d be here all night.

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