It Takes A Village

So, get them a plane ticket already! Stanley Kurtz on immigration and Fort Dix;

Chain migration through extended family unification is a potentially huge barrier to assimilation. My recent two-part study of cousin marriage and failed Muslim assimilation in Britain is essentially the story of how the loophole of family reunification was turned by in-marrying extended Muslim clans into an immigration disaster. (See “Assimilation Studies,” and “Assimilation Studies, Part II.”
Today’s NYT story seems to tell an at least somewhat similar story. The same pattern of immigration based on extended clan ties, and the maintenance of links with clan-dominated villages in the originating country, seems to apply. This pattern is a recipe for failed assimilation.
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I am not saying that anyone in the Duka family, outside the plotters themselves, was involved here. The point is, when you bring over a vast extended clan through chain migration, and when that extended family group maintains constant ties with an originating village, it becomes vastly more difficult to assimilate. For one thing, chain migration means a constant supply of new family members who don’t know English and are unfamiliar with Western ways. For another thing, you are least likely to give up traditional practices, notions of honor, etc., when you are surrounded by people who know you from your home village. In England, it’s gotten to the point where marriage-based chain migration has resulted in entire Pakistani villages almost literally being picked up and transferred whole to Britain.

15 Replies to “It Takes A Village”

  1. Denmark is suffering the same fate as well.
    I read recently that there is a village in Pakistan dubbed “Little Denmark”. The reason being almost all the inhabitants are getting welfare cheques from the Danish Government and using the proceeds to set up businesses there.Those that have emigrated to Denmark return for part of the year to operate the businesses and then return to Denmark to keep their welfare status active.

  2. Exactly. Once upon a time, the whole point of immigrating to America, not to mention settling the West, was to GET AWAY FROM YOUR BACKWARD LOSER FAMILY because you were ambitious and smart.

  3. Actually it’s time to reassess which cultures are compatable with our cultural and constitutional ideas and set our sources for immigration accordingly.
    I see no need to import social and civil conflict.

  4. is that the problem with muslims? they marry cousins. jokes are made about people in places like rural tennesse and their cousins

  5. Well this story says a lot of things:
    Third world immigrants are mainly going to the west for the money.
    Most first generation immigrants do not integrate well if at all in some cases.
    Immigration is a trojan horse in the first world that will lead to its destruction while the rich man profits and then flees with the money made on the back of the immigrants.

  6. Historically immigrants coming to Canada tradionally vote Liberal for the rest of their lives once they become citizens. Many years ago the Liberal Party changed the laws and permitted refugees to apply for citizenship in 5 years. Canada remains the only country in the world to do so because of the enormous national security risks involved. Then when a risky federal election was imminent, the Liberals quickly reduced the time period for refugees to apply to 3 years, the same as it was and remains for landed immigrants. Then the Liberals made family unification a major goal of our immigration policy here in Canada. It still is today. They made a bad situation even worse for no other reason than getting more votes. For anyone not to fully anticipate that as goes the USA so goes Canada is a fool. Our time is coming folks unless the Conservatives form a majority government and reverse this destructive insane process.

  7. Watched the video “Undercover Mosque” about how the muslims in Britain talk about the Religion on Peace in public and what they really say in their mosques. As stated so many time by SDA posters and in private by our security officials, these guys want to bury us! Our governments are paralyzed by political correctness to act.
    Even while they use all the appliances and inventions of the western world they hate our democracy and way of life. They won’t go back to their own lands as the welfare is too good here, they will have to be driven out. For the safety of our society we must stop any more muslim immigration.

  8. “For another thing, you are least likely to give up traditional practices, notions of honor, etc., when you are surrounded by people who know you from your home village.”

    May I be argumentative for a moment (It’s been a long week)?
    Do you poseur-cons even notice this sort of thing when reading poseur-con articles written by poseur-con writers at poseur-con websites such as NRO, or what?
    You simply can’t be a conservative and believe that honour is a bad thing, which is what Kurtz is suggesting.
    Even allowing some latitude for context (i.e. Muslim -> honour killings) I can’t buy what he is selling; the idea of an honourless society is so repugnant that it taints the rest of the article. Which seems to be a pretty common occurrence whenever I read an (otherwise good, I should mention) article by a poseur-con these days.
    I guess on the whole it’s a good thing that some poseur-cons are finally starting to give a spit about America rather than the Middle East and War on Abstract Nouns and that they are cluing in that America’s immigration policies are somewhat suboptimal, I just wish they could make their points without subtly and subersively injecting their anticonservative babble.

  9. AndrewNS is right. Honor To a baboon is meaningless if it only relates to pure animal instinct of sexual repression.

  10. Is it not interesting that the family reunification or whatever, works only one way. Why is it that those who really want to reunite will not go back to their parents or sisters or whatever?
    Another point would be that so far as Europeans go, the reunification on this side of the big water does not apply. Why?

  11. France, Spain and England have a problem. They opened immigration because their birthrate has declined (read Mark Steyns, America Alone). They need population to increase their tax base to pay for their ageing populations social welfare programs.
    The Immigrants are largely Muslim as the Muslim birthrate is above 5.1 with lots of people to export. ( Canada I believe is less than 1.5. That is why our government is opening up immigration to fill the job requiremnets.)
    You need a birthrate of 2.1 to replace your population.
    Multi culturalism, or the Liberal idea where everyone will meld into a Mosaic melting pot, where everyone will eventually become like us with the same values hasn’t worked.
    Unfortunately Islam doesn’t meld in. In fact with all the rights we give immigrants they use our Liberal laws to force us into melding with them, and eventually we will be forced to adopt their laws including Sharia. (Glad I’m not Female as Sharia isn’t biased toward Feminism)
    Sharia (Just about happened in Ontario).
    Give them time, as it is on their side as mainstream Canadians aren’t pro-creating and soon we’ll be out numbered.
    Such is Life.
    If anything read Mark Steyns Book “America Alone”
    Such is life.

  12. The reason why tribal and clan units are so strong in other countries is because they are a defense against predatory governments which spend all their time trying to figure out how to dominate and tax away the wealth of anything that moves.
    Tribal and clan units are becoming increasingly important in Canada and the United States for the same reason. They’re not circling the wagons because they hate everybody, they’re doing it because it’s the best way to make a living without having your businesses and families plundered by gangsters with badges and social-work degrees. Once the clannish fences are erected, it’s easy to see how ignorance of and indifference to the rest of society can lead to hatred and violence.
    Instead of attacking the immigration policy which at worst is simply allowing people to live together who wish to do so, you should attack the increasingly predatory government tax and regulation policies. People didn’t assimilate into North American Anglo society a hundred years ago because government made them assimilate, or because government prevented their families and clans from reuniting. They assimilated because in a society free of high taxes and other heavy-handed government coercion, voluntary assimilation and individual freedom are the best path to wealth and happiness.
    BTW, this latest plot smells like another steaming crock of government provocation and entrapment.
    The chief FBI informant in the Ft. Dix case came “to be seen by the suspects as the person who might actually show them how an act of terror could be carried off … as the targets of the investigation spoke with a sometimes unfocused zeal about waging holy war, the informer, one of two used in the investigation, would tell them that he could get them the sophisticated weapons they wanted. He would accompany them on surveillance missions to military installations, debating the risks, and when the men looked to purchase the weapons, it was the informer who seemed to be pushing the idea of buying the deadliest items, startling at least one of the suspects.” Link

  13. There are plenty of sensible people in the village but these villages are run by the iidots in the city councils and the mayor just look at NEW YORK and CHICAGO and SAN FRANCISCO is a village of idiots

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