How 'bout homicide of Men by women? Surely we didn't spend those billions for nothing?

All you have to do to see that the vast majority of murders in and around were I live are criminals killing other criminals. Other scenarios are pretty rare.

All you have to do to see that the vast majority of murders in and around where I live are criminals killing other criminals, is read the newspapers. Other scenarios are pretty rare.

Yes. But the anti-gun, pro-legislation crowd will always counter with "If the gun registry saves even one life, then it is worth it."

"If the gun registry saves even one life, then it is worth it"

The answer to such vapid reasoning is simply to use the corollary:
If the gun registry costs even one life by preventing someone from defending themselves, then it is not worth it.

"If the gun registry saves even one life, then it is worth it"

Think of how many lives would actually have been saved if the billions wasted on the registry had been spent on health care and programs to protect women in danger of domestic violence. The liberals pissed our money away on a ploy to remove more of our rights and then lined their pockets in the process. Lots of kickbacks to the liberal party and contracts and grants to companies and organizations that were liberal friendly.

http://www.petitiononline.com/glg/petition.html

The funny thing you also don't hear about on the CBC, that when such homicides take place with a long gun, they are about 8 out of 10 happening on native reserves... which are mostly exempt from the firearms act.

My link, above, goes to an explanation of the new UN agenda to disarm private citizens. PMSH knows about this, Mcsquinty probably preaches it and Alta's Gal Al probably wrote it.

The Un, not the Canadian H of C is probably the 'problem'. The UN is not a 'peace' organization, they are elitists in the business of one world slavery. Canada should stop funding the UN; right now.

"they are about 8 out of 10 happening on native reserves"

Reporting in such a manner, regardless of relevancy or accuracy, would be considered racist and therefore totally off limits.

You're a lot safer shooting at your local range than you are....driving to get there.

woulda, coulda, shoulda.
May 17, 2012 7:28 PM
just the facts please.

biff junior - is it true or not true? i don't know the answer, nor can i create actuarial tables.

why is it not more important to question law applied on different levels? i would hate to think that "some are more equal than others." snort snort.

Just another weak, spiteful, mean spirited effort by Neocons to cloud the issue with facts.

"Homicide of women by firearms in this country is medically insignificant." Yes, I know. It doesn't matter, the gun "debate" was never about guns and its never been a debate. It was always about MONEY with a side benefit of punishing all the people who never vote Liberal, and its been a propaganda campaign consisting solely of outright lies and half truths.

Really.

That's what makes the Liberal party such a bag of snakes. They just say whatever they think will get them some more swag. The NDP on the other hand are actual idiots, they really -believe- all this crap.

Of the two I think the Dips are the more dangerous. You can pay off a Liberal, but a True Believer will stick you in a concentration camp.

I'm so glad laws in this country are pushed onto the populace by special interest groups and unaccountable, unelected judges. It makes SO much sense!

I don't think Dorothy Joudrey's old man thinks the female firearm stats are insignificant.

Obviously her pearls affected her aim.
She fired SIX rounds, how bad a shot could she be???

biffjr, the racist aspect of this legislation is that Native Indians weren't disarmed by C68. One year stats Canada published homicide rates for Native Indians, and IIRC, they were 14.5/100,000 (this was probably a failure of the censors as I've never seen them in print again for Canada). This is the same as US black homicide rates. For comparison, the Canadian white homicide rate runs between 1-3/100,000 people and is actually higher in Canada than in the US.

So, if C68 was really about preventing domestic violence, then Indian reserves would have been completely disarmed. Firearms are not part of Native Indian culture and the Indians did a fine job of eliminating whole species of animals without firearms. It's a lot harder to kill someone with a bow and arrow while drunk than with a rifle.

Just goes to show that C68 was totally about disarming the white male population. I suggest that anyone who's in an argument with a moonbat regarding the domestic violence aspect of firearms point out the horrific toll that firearms are having on Native Indian women and that firearms are not an indigenous part of the "noble savage" lifestyle. Be prepared for head explosions if enough cognitive dissonance is created.

Biffjr.. the truth is neither racist nor offensive, its simply the truth. Its easy enough,to check my assertion,and not that difficult. There are about 30 to 40 long gun homicides against women every year. Check to see where they happened. I think you'll find I'm correct. Incidentally check the rate of violent crime per province.. I think you'll find that Nunavut is about 25 times higher than the roc..

The long gun registry is just one more example of what I consider the most glaring weakness of our political system. We have just one legislative house that has any power federally, and only one provincially, and it is based on population density. Therefore, urban areas have more say in our government than rural ones resulting in laws that do not make sense from a rural viewpoint.

Loki said: "It's a lot harder to kill someone with a bow and arrow while drunk than with a rifle."

Loki, the statistics argue against you! Two thirds of women (according to Stats Can) are killed by knives/blunt instruments/beating, so the other third is firearms. Most of which killings are not rifles.

Going by that it must be kinda hard to pop the old lady with a rifle when you're sauced. Easier just to beat her to death with a table leg.

I add here that the total number I saw listed by StatsCan was average annual 176 or some odd, 69 by gun (all types), 69 by knife, the rest by all other means. That 176 total women murdered in a year, out of a population of 30 million my friends. For this the Liberals spent two billion bucks on a gun registry.

Gee, does that seem like a HIDDEN AGENDA?

In John R. Lott, Jr.s' More Guns Less Crime, 3ed., the peer reviewed study clearly shows that firearms in the possession of the law-abiding save many lives.
I first came in contact with this when years ago, my next door neighbour moved to Pennsylvania with her new husband, later found to be a psychopath with another wife--and kids-- in nearby Ohio.
I visited her on her request to give her some friendly support. We had grown up together, after all.
She showed me her .32 revolver she kept under her pillow. The psychopath never came close to her again.
In self-defence-hating Canada, her psychopathic husband would have had no hesitation to enter S____'s home to harm her.
I believe that the Firearms Act, forced upon Canada by Communitarian-Utopian disarmament fanatics has cause incalculable death and injury to disarmed Canadians.

how many cancer tests, air ambulances, MRI units etc. could be paid for with the CBC's billion+ dollar annual cost?