Just start building the pipeline north to south. By the time it hits the border Obama will be gone.

It only makes sense for us to diversify our markets anyway. Build the gateway pipeline and eventually the adults in the US will approve a keystone project

The Pembina Institute is a nest of traitors ion the pay of American Marxists.
What other name can be given to people who celebrarte the humiliation of their government, a major industry and the workers of a province they have the temerity ti maintain an office in?

Excellent comments by Gingrich. Despite his flaws, he would be a far better president than that coward Obama. My hunch is that he would also be a better president than Romney.

Obama will now keep the Hollywood/Greenie votes and money and lose 20,000 construction worker voters but keep the money their unions rip from their paychecks.

Time for a political wedgy . . . thnx Newt.

Gingrich shouldn't talk about 'stupid' and appeasing 'San Fransico Environmentalists' after appearing with Nancy Pelosi and backing her position on CAGW.

That said, it's too bad the Americans and environmentalists are so short sighted.
The Keystone Xl pipeline piping syncrude to Texas would be environmentally safer than having Chinese built supertankers shipping up and down the B.C. coastline.
What are these tankers going to be bringing back to B.C. when they return from China?

Utter stupidity doesn't even begin to describe it...

Megan Leslie (Dipper loon) just now,on the record on cbc states "no,I don't support the pipeline,and I will continue to fight it" Mark Garneau tells her she's 'an isolationist!'
Obama:support Solyndra,don't support Keystone. Hmm,that works well.

Canadians:

Remember that most Americans want this pipeline to go through. We would rather throw money into your pockets instead of sending it places where they wrap their turbans too tightly. Start building the pipeline south. We'll take care of the idiot in November. By that point, you should be close to the border. Worst comes to worst, we can use tanker trucks across the border to embarrass the idiot.

Obama is serving his base; this is not stupid, but good politics from his point of view. Why do you think he appointed the czars? To serve his radical base.

I just finished reading Ann Coulter's "Treason". It answered the question I asked on an SDA forum a while ago, that being are liberals evil or stupid. My conclusion after reading the Coulter book and a Jonah Goldberg book is that they are evil. They are deliberately trying to destroy the country, by siding with the enemy. This is just another example. This decision allows them to help destroy the American economy and prop up countries like Venezuela and Saudi Arabia.

What else can you expect from a sheer utterly stupid president?

Can anyone identify that car in the background? Did Newt make this speech in Western Development Museum in Saskatoon?

What PatrickB said, and you can include the fruit fly doctor in that category.

Can't wait until next January when we replace the ghetto trash with a real President

Clayton, fully understood my friend! Every non-troll on this site understands the difference between Red State Americans and Leftards.

Speaking of the latter, the Leftards up here would love nothing more than to have BOTH the XL Pipeline and the Northern Gateway pipeline projects shut down. IF they get their way then Canada is doomed financially.

I see this as a blessing in disguise. The Americans pay us less for our oil than the world market and we need to diversify our trade as much as possible. It is now up to the federal government to ensure that the Norther Gateway pipeline goes through in a reasonable time frame and is not delayed for years due to foreign interference and money.

Well it appears the eagle "Eye of Newt" has a bead on the Obama-Nation(tm).

I use quality Canadian natural gas to heat my home and I won't be adorning my 'man cave' with bear pelts to keep warm this winter, when I have a useful alternative.

Why can't the Obama-Nation(tm) get it?

This is known as responsible energy extraction usage.

Cheers

Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

The DEMONcRAT media disliked Newt before now they will go into total Gingrich derangement....even if he is right.

That column by fruitflyguy was a monumental example of sophistry....emotional arguments supported by arbitrary assumptions and simple untruths (eg the sale of the ENTIRE Oil Sands development).

He refers to ….”A country willing to sacrifice its manufacturing industry, its opportunities in the green-energy economy,” …..what green energy economy? Soylindra?

He refers to.....”eliminate subsidies to the fossil fuel industry,”....but gives no evidence of this wistful notion. What subsidies....all business can use expense to reduce taxable revenue.

He suggests refineries be built here...but he has conducted campaigns to block their construction. His famous trans-Canada bus tour had the ultimate goal to protest the construction/enlargement of the St John's NB..Irving oil refinery.

But then the real reason for this bitter diatribe...”Their increasing attacks on charitable organizations and Canadians from all walks of life....”
IOW.....the fear that his cash-cow foundation could face an audit and worse yet, could be denied it's foreign financing.

You can call Newt Gingrich a lot of things but Stupid isn't one of them.
To be honest I like him better than Romney, & it has nothing to do with Religion. Its the fact Newt just can't hold back talking about the reality of things, because his ego won't let him. That makes him more honest than most Politicians around these days.
I thought I would never live to see America turn on Canada. Ive always been pro American. Still am for its people. I loved to visit the US before Obama. I felt more free there than here. Not anymore though. The government there now is so corrupt its become a Greek tragedy running on jet fuel. The people are still great , but they have been diminished by this Caligula of a President.
There Constitution, one of the greatest documents of mankind, trashed by this Muslim Marxist.
The rights Americans enjoyed now taken over by gropers in TSA uniforms with a no warrant police.

Past time Canada went Nuclear for self protection. We don't have the population or money to protect ourselves. That we have so many commodities with resources including water to protect from much larger Nations demands this. We can't rely on a more Communist America every day to do it anymore. In fact if Obama's tactics hold as usual, he will start demeaning Canada at every turn to take eyes off him, to Americans. His instinct is always attack his problems legally or with slander.
So I wouldn't be surprised to see an anti-Canadian campaign coming soon. Just think Joe the plumer, Sarah Plain, or Cain.

With the Suzuki heads on board, this is going to be an ugly fight. I would have felt much better selling the oil to the US. I was even for refineries in Texas.
Time maybe Harper cut off all welfare funds to the provinces. Make UI an extinct failure. Just to show these greens what they are pulling will do to this economy. Cut off all social programs particularly money to Universities, the CBC with other useless money holes for Marxists. Time to get dirty.

"IF they get their way then Canada is doomed financially."

No, the bitumen will be shipped by rail instead.

That was an impressive put down by Newt. For too long Obozo hasn't been slapped down like he should have been for making idiotic decisions and it looks like Newt isn't afraid of calling him an idiot.

I'd like to see both pipelines built although I don't like the idea of exporting oil to the chicoms. However, the US just seems a bit unstable now and it would be prudent for Canada to diversify. There's enough oil in the oil sands for both markets. What would be nice if Alberta could develop a large petrochemical industry as well but that looks like a multi-decade project.

Canada sells its oil to the Chinese.

Chinese put lead in it,
ship/sell it back to US.

Lead is actually good for your car but dangerous for the environment.

That would really piss off the Oblamer Affirmative Action Enviorweenie Groupies.

This decision was made by the State Department.
Obama has not closed the door on this issue. He can take it to Congress and have the State Department's decision overturned.
Anyone want to bet that, about 6 months from now in the heat of the campaign, he'll announce he's had an epiphany and will call on Congress to approve it, if he's elected? Should be worth another million votes.

Obama is simply being opportunistic. His campaign relies heavily upon the eco-fart support dollars. The decision also fits in well with his personal ideology, however it flies in the face of 'job creation' and preferred energy reliance. I guess he chose what he felt was the most beneficial in a profit/loss scenario.

That being said, we now have to go ahead with the Northern Gateway and flog crude to China. Not my personal choice but, like Obama, I choose the most beneficial. (did I say 'like Obama'? - kill me now)

Sadly, it is the average US citizen that is being screwed. To Canada it was always a win/win financially.

Sorry folks in the US. I love ya but I can't influence who you choose as a leader. Hell, it's taken most of my adult life to get what I consider a decent leader here in Canada....

BTW - I always thought Newt (despite his baggage) to be the bast choice for president. Many here will disagree but that's your prerogative. That video is precisely why I think he's the best choice. It's also precisely why he won't win the nomination. He makes too much sense in a blunt fashion. He's not warm and fuzzy.

The only thing I don't like is the ‘Tar Sands' caption.

But then, the feed is from CNN.

A poll that need some help.

http://www.cbc.ca/cgi-bin/MT4/mt-search.cgi?blog_id=96&tag=question%20of%20the%20day&limit=20

Nathan Cullen on the record for a 'no' as to support for pipeline..Peggy Nash,waffles.
Yup,the ndp..so important NO msm is even covering their big debate tonite.

Damn, I gotta do a take-back on Newt.
I never expected to hear this kind of uncompromising language ever again.
He's so right: STUPID.
But not really if you consider that his real objective all along has been the destruction of the republic and the marxist starting all over again with a clean slate.
"Five Days from now there will be a fundamental transformation ... ".

All I want now is to hear Gingrich start calling Obama a marxist (and ET to pop in saying, damn MND, you were right).

Yeah, I prefer him to Romney too. Can you imagine Romney speaking so aggressively.

PREDICTION: If he gets the nomination, Obama won't debate him. I know, you're thinking: he'd have to. No he doesn't!

Trans-Canada to re-apply!

http://junkscience.com/2012/01/18/transcanada-will-re-apply-for-a-keystone-xl-permit/#more-9864

Sasquatch: "IOW.....the fear that his cash-cow foundation could face an audit and worse yet, could be denied it's foreign financing."

Not quite. The threat is that he would be forced to disclose foreign sources of funding by having to produce an annual audit, same as every public corporation must do. It shows how desperately afraid he is of being revealed as a sock puppet for foreign interests.

Clayton Cramer, I would like to believe you, but too many things have a habit of going tilt in US politics. Fact of the matter is that if Keystone is not bipartisan then the US cannot be trusted to deal with Canada-US issues on merit. But then we're used to that after 25 years of harrassment over softwood lumber. It would seem that America's gratitude over Canada's role in Afghanistan and Libya was VERY short-lived.

Revnant Dream, it is possible to find many retired senior civil servants of the generation that entered the federal government in the 1950s and early 1960s who quietly regard Canada's decision NOT to develop a nuclear weapon capacity as the country's greatest mistake in the 20th century.

It has long been clear that there are only two kinds of countries in the world, those which have nuclear weapons and those which don't. And those which don't just don't matter very much. The Iranians understand this thoroughly, which is why mere blockades and embargoes will do nothing to deter them.

No I don't like Gingrich better than Romney. Oz was right; his appearance with Nancy Pelosi in support of climate change has damned him forever as a shiftless opportunist.

This is great.

Now Daryl Hannah is on Power and Politics giving her opinion.

TJ stole my thunder; why not rail it? I certainly don't know all the economics of pipelines but I can't help but think that 8 billion would pay for an awful lot of rail cars going south AND WEST!!!!

Chris in the Bridge

P.S. If Romney is the Republican nominee, Obama will be re-elected

That is Ezra's best commentary so far on Sun News.

Chris in the Bridge says "If Romney is the Republican nominee, Obama will be re-elected."

Depends on who he choses to run as Vice President. Bets are on Chris Christie.

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PREFERS ISLAMIC FASCIST OIL

Although president Obama must at least be intelligent enough to recognize that unemployed US citizens can't wait until after the election for tens of thousands of jobs, he is accepting the recommendation of his far-left, affirmative action secretary of state and is sacrificing tens of thousands of jobs for one; his own.
The decision to forfeit jobs for unemployed Americans has been expedited to induce election contributions, support from the environmental fascist, and assistance from extremist who will work for his campaign.

Barrack Hussein Obama must be convinced that buying oil from a democratic country that recognizes human rights, has similar values to most Americans, and historically before Obama has frequently been called the US's “best friend”, is superior than buying oil from Islamic fascists who fail to recognize human rights, democratic governance, or hold values that are recognized by people with morals.

The potential big winner here is China, although Iran and the other Islamic fascist countries that export oil also win as does communist Venezuela; well done Barrack Hussein Obama.

---machiavelli

This decision was made by the State Department

Would that be the same State Dept that gave their approval last fall?

Make no mistake, Obama made this decision and it was the only one he could make. He could either pi$$ off the unions or the Hollywood fund-raisers. He chose to keep the money flowing into campaign coffers. It was a good decision for him and a lousy decision for Americans.

Ezra's commentary is definitely worth listening to. Top notch.

Just saw an ad on Fox by an American group re Canadian oilsands (yes, they called it oilsands)...I don't think this is over with...

http://energytomorrow.org/

Almost caught them on the poll, folks. Keep on voting!

Lorne Gunter weighs in:

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/01/18/lorne-gunter-obamas-keystone-rejection-just-political-theatre/

If we start shipping by rail make sure it goes the full length and/or breadth of Nebraska.

Two votes separate the poll right now.

setyoufree: "Now Daryl Hannah is on Power and Politics giving her opinion."

Why would anyone want to hear from that empty-headed twit? She can barely string two three-word sentences together.

Kathryn, the decision to kill Keystone was easy for him. All of the jobs would be created in states which don't vote for him anyway. This was all about keeping the big fat campaign contributions rolling in and to guarantee the watermelon vote.

This decision will NOT be reversed after the election. Once a campaign has been run in which stopping it was a key issue, there's no way that Obama can reverse himself and infuriate his green supporters afterwards.

cgh,
You think he is going to win?

Besides, the Chicoms will buy it, like Cuba drilling oil we won't drill off of Florida, the oil will be recovered, and burned, just will be shipped across the ocean instead.

"True scale of CO2 emissions from shipping revealed"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/feb/13/climatechange.pollution

today Nobama is collecting funds, tomorrow he will reverse his decission and try to collect votes

trouble is he is blaming the GOP for this fiasco, so how will he explain his reversal???

fun times in the election cycle:-)))

"IF they get their way then Canada is doomed financially."

No, the bitumen will be shipped by rail instead."

How has the oil up to now been delivered to market from the oil sands? It has been going for some time.

Without a doubt, Ezra's on a roll.
I wouldn't be surprised if before long, he himself will be a target of the MSM because of manure he tends to spatter over all their favorites. I say, bring it on! at your peril.
He opened his tirade on Zero today calling him the Manchurian Candidate, which affirms my thinking. I made this argument here a couple of years ago, and I haven't been convinced otherwise, even though ET then seemed to disagree. But there was no question of his narcissistic proclivity.
I'd like nothing better than to be able to eat my words, but I doubt I'll have to.

One of Ezras best rants.

"What are these tankers going to be bringing back to B.C. when they return from China? "

Spare people. China has lots.

I wouldn't want to see the oil shipped by rail,The tracks from Alberta to Rupert are in terrible shape. The buyers of the former CN laid off all the maintenance crews and replaced them with track inspectors who travel over the rails at thirty MPH,they can't see much at that speed.

The main rail line would have to be upgraded and maintained at a cost probably as high as a pipeline,with a lot less of a safety factor.

Nope,if we're going to ship oil,let's do it right,by pipeline.

Gingrich looked good in that clip,didn't he? Wonder what eventual Republican Presidential candidate Romney thinks of Obama's latest stab-in-the-back to Canada.

Suzuki says, "Caring about the air, water, and land that give us life"; well, our mothers and fathers give us life but it is plain hard work that makes life other than "nasty, brutish, and short".

I think that David Suzuki should get a job. As a farmer's assistant, as a miner, or perhaps as a deck hand on an oil rig. He needs to understand just how tough Mother Nature is.

Mother Nature is a serial killer. You didn't hear it first here.

Suzuki's last paragraph was interesting.

I especially liked this part:

"we can expect more attacks and more attempts to silence those who believe we must at least have a discussion..."

Oh, he's willing to have a discussion now. He's certainly softened from his position of having politicians who don't believe in the global warming fairy put in jail. Doesn't Suzuki know, the discussion is over, there's a consensus. Or is he too senile to recall the recent election results?

Regarding the CBC poll, the "yes" vote is ahead, but it could sure use a big surge of yeses this evening. You know what you should do.

TJ at 5:03 PM, I sooo agree with you about Gingrich and the presidential race. My fear is the Republican base are looking for Mr. Perfect and are prepared to sacrifice Mr. Good in the process. Since no candidate is ever perfect they are screwing themselves. Gawd, I wish I could vote in American elections and primaries.

The US saying no to the pipeline is the best thing that could happen. Now we are forced to ship to china and having two outlets for our oil is better than one.

Obama

The definition of DUMPIDITY

Charles Adler talks about Northern Gateway last night with a money guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24tszlBGj40

Listen at around six minutes as to what the real financial impact to Canada once the oil sands really gets going....the difference between the Texas Crude price (via Keystone) and the world price (via Northern) alone is worth 13-14% of ALL government revenue. Ouch!

We are just seeing the beginning of massive political power play, no?

Yes...872
No...648

Waffling fence-sitters 23

This is fun.

If there is anything we have learned about Stephen Harper...
It's that he MEANS what he says and says what he Means...when we lost getting a seat at the United Nations he said a year ago that he knows who Canadas' friends are...and believe me he WILL find other markets for our goods...he MEANS IT!
And for that we say thank you Mr. Harper!

Kathryn@715, My thoughts too. State had already approved which is why it went to WH and trigerred the iniitial protests. Now they "don't have enough time" to do study. I call BS, Hillary (the poltician that she is) has decided play along to get along is the way to go. Ah well, to paraphrase my former premier "Let those southern Bas@@@@s freeze in the dark

Looks as if the poll swung the correct way once people got home from work.

Not that Evan Solomon would update the results from the end of his Wednesday show.

Haven't watched Ezra yet but Newt summed the situation up perfectly.

Now may I be the first to say LET THOSE STUPID AMERICAN SOCIALIST HIPPIES FREEZE IN THE DARK!!!!

(no offense intended to the millions and millions of honest, decent, hardworking and rational thinking Americans)

Just finished watching Ezra. Wow!!! That man just handed the left their butts on a platter!

I see this as a blessing in disguise. The Americans pay us less for our oil than the world market and we need to diversify our trade as much as possible. It is now up to the federal government to ensure that the Norther Gateway pipeline goes through in a reasonable time frame and is not delayed for years due to foreign interference and money.

Right on the money, and well said.

Gingrich is the most intelligent of all the candidates. Unfortunately, Americans don't vote for issues or for intelligent leaders. The American presidential election is little more than a glorified high school popularity contest. If Obama chooses Hilarity Clinton as his running mate, the GOP are going to have a very tough contest on their hands. Lots of women love Hilarity and lots of urban Americans love their black president who just keeps promising them more gifts from the government coffers. America is doomed to fail, hopefully we can avoid the collateral damage.

If pipelines are such a major concern for Obama - Harper should prepare legislation to shut down all pipeline transfers of oil and gas from Canada to the US until such time as they undergo a 30 day static pressure test of at least 150% of normal working pressure.

Any pipeline or valve that does not maintain the design pressure over the 30 days test period must be removed from service.

We of course sincerely regret any consequential shortages of gasoline or natural gas while test are being undertaken.

...and again Ezra says it like it is. It's just too bad that those who need to hear this most won't because they've got their heads in the sand or up their butts.

What's the deal with people getting upset when the resource in Alberta is referred to as "Tar Sands"? The stuff they dig up is bitumen, which as far as I understand a lot more like tar than oil. Seriously, I have no problem with the oil sands mining, but I don't understand this name issue.

Tim in Vermont, never discount the election possibilities for a sitting President. His chance of re-election is significantly greater than zero. Also remember that right now it looks like the US may go through at least some economic and job recovery in 2012. That means his prospects will improve during this year.

As to selling to Asia, again never discount the possibility of things going wrong during the review and permitting process. I've seen too many of these go badly wrong in the past, and in my previous posts here I've outlined a few of them.

I'm really not liking the sound of deafening silence coming out of the BC government. A bunch of protest groups can't by themselves shut down a project like this, but a provincial government can. Just look at for how many years Quebec has been blocking further development of the Churchill River hydroelectric development in Labrador. I can see all too easily BC arguing that Alberta gets all the benefits and BC gets all the environmental costs and headaches.

And the ENGOs already have at least one senior politician in the province bought and paid for: the mayor of Vancouver.

N60: "Gingrich is the most intelligent of all the candidates"

A questionable statement at best. Romney has actually run a state. Gingrich was merely House Speaker, a job with sufficiently low requirements that even Nancy Pelosi could fill it. He's also the least trustworthy. Which is probably part of the reason why he's running well behind Romney in South Carolina.

"hopefully we can avoid the collateral damage"

About as likely as the survival of a snowflake in a blast furnace. This isn't a hope, it's a delusion.

Helen from Sask., well said. There's a lot of folks who post here who have systematically accused him of being a CINO over the past year or so. And they need to eat a lot of crow pie.

Of course, if we attempted to do as The Suzuki suggests, build an oil refinery in Canada, his head would explode.

Late to the discussion but my concern is about Canadian national security. The economic ramifications from Keystone XL and N. Gateway are obvious. The status quo is already costing Canada $8 to $15/ barrel by being tied to WTI crude price. That's the obvious part.

Canada has to build N. Gateway to counter those American and international forces (Opec' Saudis and Venezela) who are actively financing efforts to stop Canada's export of crude to S.E. Asia. Canada failing to build this project is ignoring the very reason why we have survived the global economic chaos of the past 5 years as well as we have. Commodity price strength has provided the money.

If Canada does not want to be another banana republic and have its affairs dictated by foreign countries then we have to grow up and start running the country in a way that reflects Canadian interest. The only economic policy I have ever seen in this country was a tax policy to promote eastern Canadian manufacturing. We should all realize now that Ontario has descended into the American rust belt and has to reinvent itself. Exporting our commodities will have to pick up the slack.

This is bottom line stuff as a nation. Canada cannot allow foreign interest to dominate the economic or political independence of the country.

lefty/enviros have to clue into the law of unattended consequenses , if you dont like a pipeline, will they like a rolling pipeline better?

Well, after all, the Saudis paid for Obama's education so this is the payback - increased reliance on M.E. oil.

[Quote]Canada has to build N. Gateway to counter those American and international forces (Opec' Saudis and Venezela) who are actively financing efforts to stop Canada's export of crude to S.E. Asia. Canada failing to build this project is ignoring the very reason why we have survived the global economic chaos of the past 5 years as well as we have. Commodity price strength has provided the money.[/quote] CT

IMHO the KEYSTONE XT is dead even if Obama is re-elected.. The puker President has been put in the "Petty" box by Valerie Jarrett & Soros. He can't change his mind without looking petty & stupid. Canada better go for the China Market

This changes the dynamics of 2012, Mitt may be history if he doesn’t know how to change gears..

Newt's right this time because he always know what to say to draw applause from the folks in front of him.

Put a different set of folks in front of him, he'll say something different again -- http://youtu.be/VuBd1atfhQ4

Just so freakin' full of it, it really is unbelievable that people can fall for this guy.

According to a G&M article last March, Alberta companies produce 879,000 barrels of synthetic crude per day from the oil sands which finds it's way to American refineries via pipeline and down the Transmountain pipeline to Vancouver and out to Asian markets by ship. Keystone and/or Northern Gateway will handle increased oil sands production, current production is already findings it's way to market
Nobody ever mentions Kinder Morgan's Transmountain application to twin it's pipeline and increase capacity by 400,000 barrels a day. These guys have already been permitted once and are in operation, plus they are shipping out of Vancouver. Has anybody looked up Kitimat on a map? It has 120 km of river and channel before you get to open water. This storm over the Northern Gateway is getting quite emotional. Is it really in the national interest,or in the Enbridge shareholder's interest? Think about it. Financial disclosure: I own shares in Transcanada and Enbridge as well as 2 other pipeline companies.

Not a Newt fan, but he nailed this one.

At the end of the day Gingrich is an American through and through. Unlike Obamba he sees roots in the US, and will not sell out its core values.

Peter Jay - I agree, he's a slimy politician; I'd rather see RP as president than a self interested individual like Newt. At the end of the day, Newt towers over Obamba, who has proven to sell out his country and back socialist dictators publicly, proudly calling them friends.

"Not a Newt fan, but he nailed this one."

I also was not a Newt fan, but better a Street fighter is picked to win 2012..., or someone will resort to SAM... Hell can't be far off...

America is doomed to fail, hopefully we can avoid the collateral damage.
Posted by: North of 60 at January 18, 2012 11:28 PM

N60, we are not gona fail.

And, Americans don't vote on issues ? Where were you the last election ? The Tea Party candidates took back the House of Representatives and ran on balancing the budget, closing the US/Mexico border, repeal ObamaCare and Stop the Spending. Those are some major issues, eh ?
,

Obama is a friggin idiot. Surpassing Carter as the worst president ever. I never liked his politics but he was dully elected and I figured cut him some slack, but not any more. The sooner Americans kick his rear out the better. With my first two picks out I am now endorsing Newt. There I said it.

Peter Foster challenges the claims of some of the radicals:

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/01/19/peter-foster-follow-the-money-then-expose-the-misinformation/

Terry:
N. Gateway is emotional especially if you are convinced that Canada is being 'played' by foreignors. At some point Canada has to join the big boys and take reponsibility for her affairs. I can agree that PMSH has done more in the past 5 years than other governments have done since Pearson.

The issue with Gateway is how much oilsand production will there be to transport by 2020. With over 60 oilsands projects and $135 billion in capital projects underway you read volume projections from 3 to 5 million barrels per day. I honestly think Canada needs;
1) Northern Gateway
2) Keystone XL
3) Western crude to Montreal
and yes
4) TransMountain upgrade

These projects are essential for Canadian independence, support of our social system and our economy. The impact on our trade balance would be enormous.