"Out of the frying pan and into the kettle"?

Three quarters of the way down the page we have this gem:

"Also, while earlier generations may have opted out of the workforce through marriage or motherhood, these paths aren’t viable for these self-sufficient women, who either are still single or unwilling to be fully supported by men."

Pure feminist claptrap.

A "self-sufficient" woman who has spent "[her] childhood developing a well-rounded resume" (i.e. her 20s if we go along with the author), but is now 30 and still single, is keenly aware of her gonging biological clock telling her that her childbearing years are dwindling all the while the pool of eligible men is shrinking.

She's waking up to the fact that she has been sold a bag of sand by the feminist "you can have it all" movement. They've been duped and they know it.

That's the source of their angst.

And those married women who "aren't willing to be fully supported by men"? They have a viable path but refuse to go there. So shut up already.

Hey, hard work all through college or university followed by many more years of hard work to get a job, keep a job, advance your career and pay off your debt. Welcome to the man's world, is it everything you expected?????

Tough titty! Go to Saudi or Wakistan, live under a tent and all responsibilities in your lives will seem, well, really petty.

From the article:
It sucks and it’s hard work.

What never say so!!!!!! Those women on sex in the city have wonderful lives where they meet friends for cocktails at brunch every damn day. Life is a whirl wind of parties, dressing fabu and having folks hang onto to every witty word and flick of your finely coiffed hair..

Life is about choices, don't like the choices you made? Suck it up buttercup.

hey my comment go held!

Overheard from an associate addressing one of these whiners.......

"You wanted equality? Well you've got it."

All of the above.

Particularly poignant, jcl's "Welcome to the man's world, is it everything you expected?????"

and sasquatch's "You wanted equality? Well you've got it."

My wife raised four children, with my help of course, had a full time job for 30 years and helped me on the farm during seeding and harvest.

She never bitched once, as it was for us.

Many of the women in the article have realized that they are alone when they come home and take their heels off.

You wanted to work in "a man's world", isn't it all it was cracked up to be?

Boo hoo.

I've had the same routine for 25 years: get up at 6 am, travel in car + public transit for 1+ hours, work at least 8 hours, travel back home in car + public transit for 1+ hours, dinner, a few hours to myself, 6 hours or so of sleep.

Lather, rinse, repeat, 5 days a week for the rest of my life.

What Mark said!

I'm almost burned out and used up at 60 after working for 40 odd years. Hey, I've said all along that I'm twice the man these women are. :D

In the world of the academic-media-industrial complex, the whiners are the winners, unjustly deprived of their winnings by "unjust social structures, "American-style" whatever, and "rightwingHarperConservatives".

Mississauga Matt, you are such a slacker.

Just 8 hours a day at work? Pick up the pace, dude.

I kid, of course. Your routine sounds remarkably similar to mine:

Up at 5:00, commute about an hour, 9 to 12 hours at the office covering for a co-worker with a film studies degree who is totally out of her depth in our group but who management feels is important to have on hand to represent "diversity" in the Engineering department, another hour home, about 30 minutes doing the housework that the wife did not get to because of her work hours, another 40 minutes with some porn (usually http://www.sears.ca/catalog/sleepwear/11288), and then whatever is left over in fitful, unsatisfying, tossing (not to be confused with the quality time spent at sears.ca) that passes for sleep.

I notice that nobody is writing any articles about us.

Articles such as this show up regularly in the Globe and Mail. Self-indulgent and narrow-visioned. I suspect that those who are having trouble with the whole idea of career, would also be having trouble with marriage or raising a family. When you feel entitled because you've structured your life around fulfilling yourself, you're bound to meet some disappointments along the way.

Seems like these women would really rather go back to a 50s housewife lifestyle. I know many of my friends would prefer that life.

Me, I always had responsibilities on the ranch growing up. I worked part time off the property at age 14. Went to vet school and I've been working full-time (or more) since I was 24.

When I bought a struggling practice, I worked 7 days a week for over 2 years, with not one day off, including holidays. I had dogs and cats boarding over the holidays and couldn't afford to pay for kennel help

I'm a stay at home dad, my wife holds a senior position of responsibility at a large company, she's senior management. She says herself that most of the women at her company are unwilling to do the extra things that are necessary to get ahead, be promoted. That doesn't stop them from feeling entitled to a promotion based on their years of service. When one of the girls does show determination and initiative she is often ostracized from the others. Excuses are made as to why 'SHE' gets ahead without ever once acknowledging effort OR competency!

I think the biggest hinderance to getting ahead is that we've taught our youth that there's no need to win or lose, everyone is equal, no need to stand out from the crowd. You get a trophy for participation, not for achieving. The problem is that the real world keeps score and rewards only success. The self-esteem movements chickens have come home to roost and many simply can't deal with it. They don't even know how to achieve their goals, they have little to no perspective of life's real challenges and no effective way of overcoming these issues.

It's sad and difficult having to come to grips with disappointment for the first time when you're in your 20's rather than when it should have been learned, as a child and youth. Until we stop insulating, mollycoddling and achieving FOR our kids this won't change.

Now go tell your kid to Occupy a Library.

Hey Ken, you've got a keeper there.

Oh yeah! Almost forgot.... when gals do achieve as much as guys they will be blessed with the ultimate reward, the privilege of dieing 2 years (on average) earlier in life due to equality of life expectancy... never hear feminists complaining about THAT imbalance.

When women were held out of the power positions, they began to think they were wonderful, fulfilling, with lots of free time and money enough to satisfy all of your whims.

Now that they're able to get to those positions, they are starting to understand that there is no finish line, and the promise made by their feminist leaders was wrong -- the jobs at the top suck even more than the ones down below.

I have no problem with people deciding that living life is more important than accomplishment. I've done it myself by staying in the tower instead of going to work in the area control centre for $40k more. But don't call it burnout: It's a choice.

What I do object to is people whining that life isn't everything they were told it was going to be. If your life sucks, it's because you made it suck. Now either fix it, or shut the hell up.

"Now go tell your kid to Occupy a Library."

That needs to be on bumper sticker.

This article is essentially just a piece about "people" in their 20s & 30s. Except it's reverse sexism: whereas in the 50s every pronoun indicating "people" was "men," now every pronoun is "women" instead of "people."

Red Jeff, your first comment was beyond brilliant! It truly summarizes what's wrong with today's entitlement generation (all ages, both sexes). I think I need to repost!

So, that means they are almost a quarter of the way to retirement age. It doesn't get better, but you do get used to it.

Unlike boot camp, you do get to go home at night, and there's no Drill Instructor making you do push-ups until he's tired of watching... So much of life is attitude.

On topic... Adam Carolla, via Kathy Shaidle, FFoF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_zA5Tcfp9c

Carolla == NSFW

I do like this quote:

"The reality for women who want to work in PR is that they are going to be working with 24 catty [women] who will backstab and compete with them."

If a man had written this all hell would break loose. Burning out at 30? That's barely eight years after an undergraduate degree.

Here is a different point of view. I will give you some of my history to help me make my point.

I am the primary breadwinner in my family and my wife supplements my income with a part time job. She worked while I was in university and thrrough her work I got my degree with minimal debt.(under $20K)

Once I had my degree, her primary role was to care for our kids until they were school age. She did some babysitting in this time and once they were in school she went back to work part time.

My point of view in all of this is that I would not trade my wife's work at home and with the kids for her having a successful career. I realize that many may call me sexist, but I want someone to be a mother to my children, not make a bunch of money.

If I were looking for a wife right now, I would not be looking to one of these career oriented women. I cannot do my wifes job. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy spending a day with my kids and I can look after them just fine. But my days with them are days off when we get to do something fun, not the daily grind days where the household needs to be looked after.

I am not interested in a woman who will have to put her career ahead of my/her children in order to advance. I can't lie, the money would be nice, but the price is too high. I am interested in a woman who puts her children first even though our household may make have less income.

The women in this article are realizing that work is called work for a reason. It is not fun and very few people would do it if they did not have to.
These "career women" look at their counterparts, who stayed home with their children, and some how try to feel superior. As a breadwinner they are. As a wife and mother, they don't measure up to a stay at home mom.

These women wanted to be part of the "men's club" now they are. So my advice is to them is to shut up, go to work, provide for your family(like men have done for decades).

Many will say, "who would want to marry someone with an attitude like that?" well my wife married me and I am glad she did. If you don't like my views, chances are I won't like yours so we won't have to worry about marrying each other.

Sorry if I ruffle anyone's feathers, but this is my opinion and yours may differ.

Trevor

@John - "Burning out at 30?"

I have worked with traders that broke down in their 20s. I was once told that the average age for an S&P pit trader was 25. I knew guys who worked from 5:00am to midnight and lived on a toxic combination of drugs and booze that would kill most people just to make it through the day. I will never forget a guy I worked with who had a heart attack on our floor in from of me. He was 38. His nickname was Ol' Coot. There was a standing bet among 10 of us that if any of us made it to 35 we'd buy that guy a Ferrari. The closest guy lasted until 31. The biglaw, big accounting and i-banking firms are no different. Lots of people burn out quick cause these jobs are only suitable to a few people. Mostly people with something wrong with them who don't really care about having much of a life until they turn 50 (if they live that long). Most professions chew up and spit out people. Just the way it is. It only matters now cause women are being affected.

You get up ev'ry mornin'
To the 'larm clock's warnin'
Take the 8:15 into the city...

...etc.

- BTO

mmmmm....cupcakes.....

"It only matters now cause women are being affected." Thst pretty well sums up all kinds of issues in our modern culture.

"It only matters now cause women are being affected."

You're just being misogynistic and probably homophobic and racist, too...you big meanie!!

/sarc

Hi Robert W! You are absolutely right, it's not a male/female issue but an entitlement one. My wife started out at the bottom, worked hard, took on tasks that others wouldn't and was recognized, in time, for her efforts. Showing she was capable, willing and able to accept more responsibility got her recognized and put on the short list for promotion. Managers didn't have to worry about whether or not she could do the job, they knew beforehand. This gave her the edge over her coworkers. Now that she is in the senior position she offers to her 'underlings' those same opportunities... the only taker of extra tasks is the newest member of her department, the least experienced yet most determined. This 'newbie' has already begun her upward path to promotion and will soon have others reporting to her. She will surpass her coworkers with more seniority because she is already seen as being more competent, willing and capable.

All were given the same opportunities, only one grasped the ring.

To Lickmuffin: I hereby grant full copyright to the 'Occupy a Library' movement to you! :) Just don't forget me if you become one of the 1%!!!!

The article portrays women as lazy, spoiled an entitled. When you leave college and hit the workforce, of course things get harder. But everybody should know that, and frankly, the only thing to do is to figure out the best way to handle it well.

Work is work! Work is not play! It's easier when you love what you do, but it's never leisure, it's work: you must produce.

Not only that, it's before your 30s that you can put in the hours. I had so much energy and enthusiasm in my 20s that I worked through the night, sometimes plunging myself into work for hours, and giving it everything I had, and frankly, it's in your 20s that you can do that sort of thing. Later on you figure out how to temper things, keep things on an even keel, and not flame out. You adjust. It's nearly impossible to burn out in your 20s, only the weak kneed and the whiniest people would burn out in their 20s.

Red Jeff: you are a real man.
You guys who have the long commutes and endless cycles of commute, work , sleep -thank you for your service to our country.
You guys are the bedrock of society.
The "Occupiers" are not fit to lick your boots.
I am a 90 hr /week GP and am always grateful that I am privileged enough not to have a real job.
I don't have the balls to do it with the dignity you guys do. I salute you guys and would be proud to have you as my friends. I hope your spouses appreciate you and pray that you pass on your work ethic to your kids.
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