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August 12, 2011

Shoot First, Ask Questions Later

Texas Governor Rick Perry could teach the Harper crew a thing or two about communications strategy...

h/t Ed S.

Posted by Kate at August 12, 2011 2:53 PM
Comments

Love to see people who become politicians, like Gov. Perry, able to remain real, teachable and down to earth. He never talked down, was really an encourager and actually knew what he was talking about.

Although, Obama could probably do the same with his favorite weapon, the "teleprompter"!!! Not sure what good that thing does in bagging some food for the winter months or protecting somebody from taking your food for the winter months.

Posted by: glacierman at August 12, 2011 3:19 PM

I see he's handy with a gun.

Go-karts would also have been acceptable as a group activity.

But seriously, Governor Perry has an easiness about him that the left will hate.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at August 12, 2011 3:58 PM

Perry is legendary...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4tWZNxnABk

Posted by: Pete at August 12, 2011 4:06 PM

I've liked Gov Perry ever since I read about the time he shot a coyote that attacked his dog while he (the Gov) was out jogging. He seems very likable, down-to-earth, and there's no arguing that Rick Perry’s Texas seems to be faring better than most of the country in our current economic troubles. I also like that he's outside the Bush power structure in the Republican Party. Apparently, the Bush family do not really like Perry that much, which I think will actually be a benefit for Perry in a National race.

That said, I'll be interested in hearing more about his ideas and platform in order to determine if he's the person to vote for or not.

Posted by: rindlrad at August 12, 2011 4:08 PM

America so needs a Blinding Flash of Common Sense to rescue it from the Obama Flash in the Pan that is destroying one indecision at a time.

Posted by: Fred at August 12, 2011 4:14 PM

He can be as down to earth as he wants, but that doesn't make him a good leader. The thought of this guy in the white house trying to turn America into a theocracy is genuinely terrifying, and my only solace is that the majority of people will agree with me.

Posted by: Andrew at August 12, 2011 4:38 PM

I love it:

Perry wants to get rid of federal entitlements, or at least "have a debate about it."

That new video of him at the big prayer meeting has lefties panicking, and that's always a treat to watch.

I know: they all turn out to be dirtbags, but still, just for sheer entertainment value:

Perry/West 2012


Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at August 12, 2011 4:43 PM

Really Andrew, terrified? I'll bet you don't know anything about Perry other than what MSNBC tells you. Bet you haven't been to Texas. He was my governor when I lived in Texas and he is a good leader. Did I mention he has experience, like in a heck of a lot more that a junior senator from Chicago did.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at August 12, 2011 4:56 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/01/texas-used-stimulus-to-cover-97-percent-of-its-deficit/70077/
http://i.imgur.com/zlGi2.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WITcMBeuIbY
http://www.politicususa.com/en/rachel-maddow-outs-msms-downplay-of-rick-perrys-extremist-supporters
http://www.texasobserver.org/cover-story/rick-perrys-army-of-god
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/12/gail-lowe-perry-picks-cre_n_230167.html
And a bonus from the onion: http://www.theonion.com/articles/god-urges-rick-perry-not-to-run-for-president,20981/

Claim liberal bias all you want. If even 10% of this shit is true, no sane person, however religious they are, would consider voting for Perry.
I'm not saying Obama isn't a terrible president, but the republican party needs a candidate that isn't batshit crazy.

Posted by: Andrew at August 12, 2011 5:05 PM

He can be as down to earth as he wants, but that doesn't make him a good leader. The thought of this guy in the white house trying to turn America into a theocracy is genuinely terrifying, and my only solace is that the majority of people will agree with me.
Andrew at August 12, 2011 4:38 PM

Andrew-

People, such as yourself, have been claiming since the 1970s that Republican/Conservative presidents want to turn America into a theocracy. I’ve been here all that time and - hasn’t happened.

I'm sure everyone here wants to give you a fair hearing, so please provide support for your assertion that Gov Perry wants to turn America into a theocracy. Otherwise, retract your statement.

Posted by: rindlrad at August 12, 2011 5:07 PM

I always get my information from The Atlantic (Andrew Sullivan is still their ob-gyn correspondent, right?) and HuffPo.

Uhm, and the Onion.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at August 12, 2011 5:26 PM

Andrew, do you read the website, Democratic Underground?

By the way, one of the authorities you cite, the Onion, is actually a satirical website that makes things up for humorous effect: " a can of soda in the freezer realizes its owner is never coming back."

Rachel Maddow, The Atlantic, and the Huffington Post offer blind support to Mr. Obama. They are not objective sources. All they offer are assertions, like: the governor of Texas would turn the US into a theocracy. ( You don't really believe that, do you? ) Why do you support Obama, since you consider Christians unacceptable as President? Is the answer that you will say anything, to destroy anyone who runs against Obama?

Posted by: small c conservative at August 12, 2011 5:35 PM

Andrew-

I looked at the links you provided and didn't see anything that comes even close to indicating Perry wants to turn America into a theocracy.

Also, you realize The Onion is satire, right?

Posted by: rindlrad at August 12, 2011 5:39 PM

I can only assume you read neither the articles I posted, nor my actual post. I clearly implied the Onion article was a joke, and no matter how biased those articles are, they contain facts that cannot be disputed.

What you do not understand is that Perry and Bachmann will NEVER BE ELECTED. There is no amount of persuasion that can convince the majority of the American public to vote for these people. That is why, if the GOP cannot field any candidates more suitable, we can all look forward to four more years of Obama.

Posted by: Andrew at August 12, 2011 5:44 PM

So, Andrew, why don't you run? You seem quite able to tell us what "won't win", how about you throw your hat into the ring, since you are so much smarter than us and you know what "will win"?

By the way, I didn't read any of that stuff you referred to, 'cause I'm relying on you to tell me what "wins" in the USA these days. Obama sure told the USA what "wins" when he ran: "Hope and change". The fact that Obie sat at William Ayer's knee and that whacko, Ju-ju priest of the Church of Hate Whitey For Everything That Ever happened to You, for twenty years didn't seem to scare the Democrat voters that Obie was gonna turn America into a black revival meeting, so what makes you think that spouting that Rick Perry is gonna turn America into a white, revival meeting will scare anybody in America that just might want to get rid of the current Comunist-in-Chief?

Posted by: po'ed in AB at August 12, 2011 6:02 PM

"no matter how biased those articles are, they contain facts that cannot be disputed"

No, Andrew, the articles contain liberals' opinions on Perry - no actual facts. Just because HuffPo states something as fact doesn't actually make it a fact. You do realize that, don't you?

Here, I’ll help you out. Evidence would look something like Perry actually saying that he believes the United States of American should be a theocracy or actual legislation he has signed in Texas that created a theocracy in that state. A good debating point to remember is that just because you (or Rachel Maddow, for that matter) really, really believe something to be true, doesn’t actually make it true.

RE: The Onion comment – what you said was that it was a "bonus," not a joke. Given the excitability of your posts and your gullibility regarding the truthfulness of everything you read on the internet, it doesn't seem that far off the mark to assume you are unaware that The Onion is satire.

Still anxiously waiting for REAL support of your assertion that Perry wants to turn American into a theocracy.

Posted by: rindlrad at August 12, 2011 6:02 PM

"Treasure!" a dripping wet Putin told reporters with a big grin. "They drank it all already," he added when asked if there was anything left in the jars.

http://news.yahoo.com/putin-discovers-greek-urns-scuba-dive-154802017.html

Posted by: Blanks at August 12, 2011 6:28 PM

1. I thought the Onion article was funny. Please forgive me.
2. I will admit that 'Theocracy' is an exaggeration on my part. I invoked it to express anything that violates the separation of church and state, which Perry is undoubtedly against.
3. It may be acceptable in rural Texas to pray for rain, but in the rest of the civilized world it generally isn't. Ditto for organized prayer rallies.
4. Gov. Perry ignored scientific evidence exonerating an innocent man, proceeded with the execution, then tried to cover it up. Apparently being likeable and down to earth doesn't make one immune to idiocy and corruption....Who knew. (Watch the youtube video, it's fairly entertaining)
5. I don't care what religion he follows, but the idea of the most powerful man on Earth believing that that very same Earth is 6000 years old gives me nightmares. Related: his college transcript -- I bet he wishes he could hide it as well as Obama does.
http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/uuwld45og12giph/images/1-e6702e1c14.jpg

I have a drinking buddy that is about the most likeable and charming person you could meet, maybe I should convince him to run for president if that's what matters. He didn't manage to finish high school, but oh well.

Posted by: Andrew at August 12, 2011 6:28 PM

Andrew - will fire melt steel? Inquiring minds and all.

mhb23re

Posted by: mhb at August 12, 2011 6:44 PM

This is slightly off-topic but it is about guns and I am communicating it.

I recounted a story in today's readers tips about a motorcycle breakdown in the middle of nowhere,and my subsequent rescue by a single female. The bonus (not implying humour)of the story that I did not mention in the original post,is that she was packing.

The fact that she was armed likely provide extra motivation,to go along with the fact that she was basically a good person who would go out of her way to help a stranger.In this case a biker miles from anywhere.

It's rarely mentioned, but being locked and loaded,enables one to go and help where others would not dare tread.

Posted by: wallyj at August 12, 2011 7:07 PM

So you're saying the REPUBLICANS have a leader with a scary hidden agenda that isn't being properly vetted.

Posted by: richfisher at August 12, 2011 7:07 PM

"What you do not understand is that Perry and Bachmann will NEVER BE ELECTED." ---Andrew earlier.

Way back,in what was saner times,around 2006,there was a black man who had little experience,and the same was said about him,many times over.
About 18 months later the USA had an intellectual meltdown,and history was made. It's a pity.

Posted by: wallyj at August 12, 2011 7:16 PM

The RHINOs shall hate him, alas he's not girly enough for the metrosexual crowd. I think he's a hunk.

Posted by: Rose at August 12, 2011 7:25 PM

Way back in even more saner times, that was before Slick Willy, nuf said?

and don't forget what Woodrow Wilson said; Golf is a game in which one endeavors to control a ball with implements ill adapted for the purpose.

Posted by: Blanks at August 12, 2011 7:31 PM

Andrew:
Clinton was a Christian wasn't he? He liked to have his picture taken coming out of church on Sunday morning with Hillary.
The truth is you can't get elected in America without some connection to church. America is a very religious place. Just spend some time there and you will see a vast difference from secular Canada.
Relax, Perry will fine. By the time the election rolls around religion will be the last thing Americans will have on their minds in the polling booth.

Posted by: abtrapper at August 12, 2011 7:32 PM

Andrew - Once you've shown the evidence which rindlrad asked for at 6:02, perhaps you could then tell us how Perry can get around both the First Amendment and Article V of the US Constitution. TIA.

Posted by: Kathryn at August 12, 2011 8:08 PM

Andrew - Has Rick Perry turned Texas into a theocracy? If your answer is yes, please be specific, and list the 3 most important ways in which the government has become a theocracy on his watch?

Posted by: small c conservative at August 12, 2011 8:21 PM

Andrew - Has Rick Perry turned Texas into a theocracy? If your answer is yes, please be specific, and list the 3 most important ways in which the government has become a theocracy on his watch?

Posted by: small c conservative at August 12, 2011 8:22 PM

Although I'm not happy with Perry's religious fervor, I'm more concerned about the number of tax and fee increases he doesn't seem to remember making in Texas.

$1.00 a pack on cigarettes is pretty hard to forget.

Posted by: Jason M at August 12, 2011 9:01 PM

Palin/Perry 2012

Posted by: kelly at August 12, 2011 9:03 PM

"The thought of this guy in the white house trying to turn America into a theocracy is genuinely terrifying, and my only solace is that the majority of people will agree with me.
Posted by: Andrew at August 12, 2011 4:38 PM"

Obama is making sure that America is sent to her knees, wiping out the money supply, evaporating the job markets, and throwing wide the doors for the Latino's and Muslims to invade the land without regard for the Constitution and Laws of the USA.

America could use some Divine Intervention, the people will cry out when their pacifiers (the debt) are all taken away.

Just like Perry, you need to know the difference between your dog and the coyote before you shoot, and you have enough ammo!

Its the weekend, time to get out of mom's basement!

Posted by: glacierman at August 12, 2011 9:14 PM

Jason M at August 12, 2011 9:01 PM

Can you tell us more about the increases in taxes and fees that Perry has signed into law? I'm not trying to be a jerk, I really want to know.

Except that he is the governor of one of the few states that are doing well economically and that he hasn’t turned Texas into a theocracy, I'm not that familiar with Gov Perry.

Posted by: rindlrad at August 12, 2011 9:16 PM

I am with you Jason M. He's a RINO, and I am tired of the whole "gay people shouldn't be allowed to get married" demagogy.

Posted by: langmann at August 12, 2011 9:22 PM

There is no amount of persuasion that can convince the majority of the American public to vote for these people.
~Andrew

A lot of the American people will vote for these people, another lot of the American people will vote against Obama.
Together they will end up voting for whoever the Republican candidate is and that candidate will be the next President of the United States.
The pendulum is swinging to the right and Obama has ensured that it will stay pegged there for a very long time.

Have a nice day.

Posted by: Oz at August 13, 2011 1:11 AM

Unfortunately, Gov. Perry has disqualified himself from serious consideration for President with his musings about God last week. We need minds, not mysticism.

Posted by: nv53 at August 13, 2011 3:01 AM

Unfortunately, Gov. Perry has disqualified himself from serious consideration for President with his musings about God last week.

I remember a guy....what was his name again, Reagan I think, who used to muse about God too.
Anyhow, people did vote for him and some even thought he did a good job.

Posted by: Oz at August 13, 2011 3:10 AM

Did Reagan expect God to solve all of the U.S.'s problems, or did he ask God to solve them?

Posted by: nv53 at August 13, 2011 3:50 AM

Hoorah for Perry! Lefties everywhere just crapped their pants!

Posted by: max at August 13, 2011 10:10 AM

When I hear the "theocracy" claim, I'm always,as a fan of theocracies throughout the world, interested to see what makes critics of any candidate fear that state of affairs.

It almost always boils down to ,the critic of the alleged theocrat is afraid the abortion laws might be changed,and gay marriage/adoption laws expunged.

Stephen Harper dampened that about-to -become hysterical claim by the Canadian MSM,a branch of the LPC, by clearly stating during the election campaign that there would be NO revisiting of existing legislation on abortion or gay marriage.


In so doing, he killed off the last desperate hope of the MSM/LPC for an "issue" that would galvanize Canadians against the Conservatives.

Perry may be a good candidate,once we find out more about him, maybe he'll turn out to be the best one,or worst.

We'll see when the evidence is in,though it's going to be tough discerning the facts from the mountain of propaganda and misquotes/outright lies the MSM will bring against him.

Posted by: dmorris at August 13, 2011 3:06 PM

"As a nation, we have forgotten who made us, who protects us, who blesses us. And for that, we cry out for Your forgiveness."
"Blow the trumpet in Zion. Declare a holy fast. Call a sacred assembly. Gather the people. Consecrate the assembly. Bring together the elders. Gather the children. Gather the mothers, nurturing their children at the breast."
"It's time to just hand it over to God and say 'God, you're gonna have to fix this.'"
“Pray that any occult spirits from the Dalai Lama and monks of Tibetan Buddhism will be bound and unable to bring harm to Washington, D.C. or the U.S.A."
"That’s why I’m calling on Americans to pray and fast like Jesus did, and as God called the Israelite to do in the Book of Joel."
""I believe it will take a great amount of prayer, and a renewed commitment to spiritual principles, to get our nation back on track."

Best case scenario: He is lying in order to gain votes from the Christian majority. This makes him just another lying manipulative politician.
Worst case scenario: He actually believes all this, and thinks that for some reason God will fix all America's problems while ignoring rampant starvation, death, torture, rape, etc in Africa and the Middle East. This makes him fucking insane, not to mention dangerous, with this mindset of "why work towards fixing our problems when we can get God to do it for us?"

Posted by: Andrew at August 13, 2011 4:16 PM

Did Reagan expect God to solve all of the U.S.'s problems, or did he ask God to solve them?
~nv53

For Reagan, spiritual faith was not something to hang in the closet upon taking political office. As governor he had often relied on prayer for guidance, and after entering the White House he felt he needed prayer as much as ever. And politics, he held, needed faith. He frequently invoked George Washington's aphorism that religion and morality were "indispensable supports" to political prosperity.
He also felt that America and Americans needed the Bible. The Bible, argued Reagan, held all the answers. "I'm accused of being simplistic at times," he said more than once. "But within that single Book are all the answers to all the problems that face us." As Ben Elliott remembers, it was a line that many found over-the-top, some White House staff among them. Nonetheless, Reagan believed it devoutly. When the president shared the thought before the National Religious Broadcasters convention, Elliott recalled, it "brought the house down." The audience responded with a standing ovation, and Reagan was delighted.

He saw God as the preeminent source of wisdom and moral guidance, the fount "from whom all knowledge springs." "When we open ourselves to Him," the president told a group of students in December 1983, "we gain not only moral courage but also intellectual strength."

http://tinyurl.com/3tqsn8o

Posted by: Oz at August 13, 2011 4:46 PM

"But within that single Book are all the answers to all the problems that face us."

The King James Version has only been around for 400 years, and others much longer. You'd think the answers in it would have been found and the problems solved by now, wouldn't you?

Posted by: nv53 at August 14, 2011 2:16 AM

You'd think the answers in it would have been found and the problems solved by now, wouldn't you?
~nv53

No, not if you've ever read the whole Bible or even, for example, the last book of it 'the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John'.

Posted by: Oz at August 14, 2011 3:34 AM

So what do you expect Revelations to tell us about world problems? The 666 stuff seems like tinfoil hat territory.

Posted by: nv53 at August 15, 2011 2:28 AM
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