sda2.jpg

July 10, 2011

CTV Journalist Quits

Kai Nagata was CTV's 24 year-old Bureau Chief in Quebec City. He was a rising media star. But he suddenly quit and provided a lengthy explanation why.   h/t chutzpahticular

If you have a few minutes, read his entire piece and share your thoughts in the comments.

Posted by Robert at July 10, 2011 5:00 AM
Comments

This is typical of the "liberals/leftists, who don't realize they're liberals/leftists".

Everything about it wreaks of liberal activistism with zero self awareness.

Posted by: jeff at July 10, 2011 1:56 AM

Gong... gong... gong...

Is anybody mixing up another batch of the koolaid???

Posted by: Derek at July 10, 2011 2:05 AM

I kinda like this bit...

Our satirists are toothless and boring, with the notable exception of Jean-René Dufort. And on the more serious side, we have no Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow. So I don't see any true debate within the media world itself, in the sense of a national, public clash of ideas. The Canadian right wing, if you want to call it that, has had five years to get the gloves off. With a majority Conservative government in power, they're putting on brass knuckles. Meanwhile the left is grasping about in a pair of potholders. The only explanation I can think of is they're too polite, or too scared. If it's the latter, I think it's clear enough why.

..............................................

Beating these punks on every level they can bob to is the goal.

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 2:09 AM

Oh crzp - he's headed west.

Posted by: kakola at July 10, 2011 2:20 AM

Another member of the sore pampered loser brigade who sees himself as far more than he is.

An objective journalist? Hardly.

Why do young leftists so often buy the whole package of socialist propaganda? Most conservatives I know think in terms of ISSUES and often disagree with other conservatives. We're not lemmings. I see a troubling tendency among young leftists to swallow the politically correct line, to fit in with their peer group.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 2:31 AM

chutz

The difference is critical thought....natural inquisitiveness, a hunger for knowledge...vs... well...as the Captain put it..credentialism.

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 2:41 AM

So a CTV reporter reveals himself as a moonbat. Whoda thunk it?

Posted by: gordinkneehill at July 10, 2011 2:43 AM

He's young, and that is not to say that he will change his opinions, but he definitely hasn't experienced a whole lot first hand.

His letter reminds me of something a young Hollywood actor might write to the "fans" given a sudden burst of conviction. He sounds confused, and so he should be.

Posted by: Knacker at July 10, 2011 2:48 AM

Right now I need to undertake a long-delayed journey of personal discovery.
~Kai Nagata

Good for you.
Here is what you need to discover:

a) you can't have fiscal conservatism and social programming at the same time. Socialism has ramping costs that eat up that fiscal conservatism you claim to believe in

b) science isn't done by concensus. There is no global warming and no shortage of carbon based energy that can't be alleviated by sweeping aside the environmentalist barriers erected to hobble the harvesting of more oil and gas

c) the Cold War never ended. Russia just downsized and got mean and lean like all the other Global National Corporations did in the '90's by cutting it's burdensome subsidiaries and rebranding. Russia stopped pretending the Soviet union was something other than just Russia with a bunch of other nations as human shields. Russian spys still live in the West at Cold War levels today and Russia is still using terrorist proxies to attack the West just as it did when the West recognized that a Cold War was being waged against it

Geeze this guy is just another pretty face Leftist journo with no brain behind those brightly lit zealous eyes.
I could go for hours fisking the false facts he believes in.
Quitting his job in the worst recession I've seen in my 50+ years is epic schtoopidity.
Kai is going to look back with bitter regret in a period of mere months.

Since he's headed west, I hope he keeps going until he hits the Left coast instead of landing in Alberta.

Posted by: Oz at July 10, 2011 2:50 AM

sync: "The difference is critical thought....natural inquisitiveness, a hunger for knowledge...vs... well...as the Captain put it..credentialism."

That's it. In order to get where they want to go, they bend to suit the liberal pack.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 2:54 AM

He resigned. That's what I'd call a good news story.

Posted by: bob c at July 10, 2011 2:58 AM

"Since he's headed west, I hope he keeps going until he hits the Left coast instead of landing in Alberta."

Oh, great. JUST what we need out here:)

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 3:00 AM

The man is a whining pinko.

Posted by: TJ at July 10, 2011 3:00 AM

First, how does a unilingual (i.e. not French-speaking) wet behind the ears young man become a bureau chief at the National Assembly? What qualifications did he have that made it possible to overlook how very bad judgment that was?

And how does someone who isn't able to articulate a single original thought consider his future to possibly lie in the field of writing?

He is a child, similar to the child who held up a sign a few weeks ago (whose name has already escaped me), who thinks that because he likes ice cream, he is expert in its making. He deserves no further thought.

Posted by: itobo at July 10, 2011 3:17 AM

Some of what Nagata wrote rang true with me, especially towards the beginning. But here's one of the key parts I got hung up on:

"I'll say off the bat that my views don't completely mesh with any one political party. I'm not a partisan operative and I never was. Fiscally, I believe a government should be conservative."

To the best of my knowledge, only 'Oz' also picked up on it.

It's critically important for many folks on the Left to exclaim how "centrist" and "non-partisan" they are. Neither claim is true but the narrative fits in well in the echo chambers they call "progressive social gatherings".

As for the second sentence in the quote, Oz hit the nail squarely on the head: "You can't have fiscal conservatism and social programming at the same time. Socialism has ramping costs that eat up that fiscal conservatism you claim to believe in." The only thing I can add to this brilliant analysis is that Math Truly Is Hard for most journalists. They don't understand numbers very well.

They don't understand that slowing down spending increases is not the same thing as reducing spending altogether.

They're colour blind to the difference between red ink and black ink.

They don't really understand the difference between an annual deficit and the total debt.

Mark Steyn, among others, has hammered the point repeatedly: Long ago Canada lost touch with the real meaning of "conservatism" and "fiscal responsibility". If Nagata were approached on the street and asked to define what it means to be a small-c conservative or the meaning of "fiscal responsibility", his definitions would be far different than anything an SDA regular would define. And Nagata would be wrong; not a liar, just brutally ignorant.

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at July 10, 2011 4:08 AM

I'm aware of people who get their news from Jon Stewart, but this is the first time I've learned of a professional working journalist who gets his news from Jon Stewart and says so.

Posted by: CJ at July 10, 2011 4:21 AM

What a whining suck hole! Methinks it would have been better if the boy had kept his thoughts to himself and let everyone thinks he was a fool, instead of writing that rather long self absorbed piece of teenage introspection and proving everyone right.

Posted by: Chris at July 10, 2011 4:22 AM

On climate change, the conclusion I am forced to draw is that the current federal government has completely abdicated its responsibility.
[SNIP]
As an Arctic nation -- a country of inventors, diplomats, and negotiators, we should be taking the lead in brokering global accords that might save the world as we know it.

~Kai Nagata

As an Arctic nation, we would be freezing in the dark at 4:30 in the afternoon during the winter solstice and the world as we know and experience it today would be destroyed by actively participating in those global accords that Kai Nagata gaily blithers on about.
You can't radically change our way of life and preserve it at the same time.

Nagata claims to be nonpartisan yet only pays lip service to conservative issues, which exceed his understanding, while demanding immediate action on socialist issues.

Maybe the problem is that we conservatives aren't shrill enough about the urgency and need for action on our issues.
Nah, people like Kai Nagata are just too intellectually lazy and immature to grasp conservative issues.

Possibly nobody told him the story of the 3 Little Pigs or the Ant & the Grasshopper or the Little Red Hen when he was a kiddie or taught him idioms like ‘a stitch in time saves 9’ or ‘a penny saved is a penny earned’ or ‘a fool and his money is soon parted’ or 'never draw to an inside straight'.

Whatever.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing.
It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Posted by: Oz at July 10, 2011 4:58 AM

So this guy quit his job because the media isn't left-wing enough? And he's non-partisan, but believes in every last goofball leftard shibboleth from publicly-funded high-speed rail to wind-farms to "raising our profile at the UN" at any cost? A "fiscal conservative" who thinks our tax dollars should be spent "massively" on make-work projects that could never sustain themselves as private businesses. And he supports science as the foundation of public policy, but once the "consensus" that concurs with his prejudices has been achieved, science is done and it's time for the commissars to impose their solutions, for our own good?

What a tool. A 24-year-old narcissist, a true infant of Trudeaupia, suckled at the statist teat. Somebody ought to offer him a real job out at Fort MacMurray to see how long he lasts among the proles.

BTW, did you notice how he bleated about Canada losing its shot at a UNSC seat...but blamed it on our lack of recent support for PK Ops? Good lord, not even Wacko Jacko would buy that! It sounded to me like he caught himself just before mentioning the real reason we lost it: Harper's principled support for the "Zionist Entity". As Kate says, scratch a leftist, find an anti-Semite. Of course, he would swear up and down that he's not anti-Jewish, he's just anti-Israel. It's Israel's policies that are the problem and some of his best friends are blah, blah, blah. Facts be damned.

By the way, is there anywhere in Canada that a woman can't get an abortion on demand or two gays can't get married? And has the Harper Gov done anything to change that? Sheesh. What a maroon.

The funny thing is, he spent thousands of words trying to explain what's wrong with television news in this country, and he succeeded. The problem with the mainstream media - and the reason that they're dying - is that they consciously recruit people wrought in their own image. People exactly like him.

Posted by: DN at July 10, 2011 5:11 AM

"Youth is wasted on the young" comes to mind.

Posted by: steamboatjon at July 10, 2011 5:22 AM

As I read this I kept thinking Cartman, particularly when things are not going his way and he says 'Screw you guys, I'm going home'

He's a spoiled brat who can't possibly contemplate that other people have different ideology from him, and worse that more and more people 'seemingly' are differing with his gospel.

Posted by: Frenchie77 at July 10, 2011 5:26 AM

itobo touched on it, but am I the only one wondering how a 24-year-old became a provincial bureau chief for the largest private news organization in Canada?

Posted by: Daniel Ream at July 10, 2011 5:31 AM

wondering how a 24-year-old became a provincial bureau chief for the largest private news organization in Canada?
~Daniel Ream

Not only that, but I'm wondering why a CTV "Bureau Chief" for the largest private news organization in Canada has a South Korean flag on his shoulder and a CBC microphone in his hand.
(40" HD monitor)

Posted by: Oz at July 10, 2011 5:46 AM

For some reason the whole article reminds me of Camille Cacnio's original letter of "apology" for her behaviour during the Vancouver riots. A celebration of thy self. Like a self-absorbed posting on one's own Facebook page.

Why do all these young people think that anyone other than people who actually know them would be interested in their short journey through life thus far?

Posted by: Mr. X. at July 10, 2011 5:51 AM

re above photo:
Nagata seems to be interviewing a Montreal Gazette newspaper with the headline "Obama takes Fall for Security...

No wonder he quit if his job entailed interviewing a piece of paper written by another MSM journalist.
Talk about living in a Leftist echo chamber, eh?

Posted by: Oz at July 10, 2011 5:56 AM

"Not only that, but I'm wondering why a CTV "Bureau Chief" for the largest private news organization in Canada has a South Korean flag on his shoulder and a CBC microphone in his hand.
(40" HD monitor)"

Err, that logo is Canada Goose arctic wear and not a South Korean flag. (IPhone4)

Posted by: Yukon Gold at July 10, 2011 6:18 AM

He mentioned early on in that mess of writing that some in the TV news business are raging narcissists.

Hint for ya Kia. People who write a 3000 word essay on why they felt they had to quit their job?

Yeah.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at July 10, 2011 6:22 AM

Just another J-school grad realizing too late that he should have gone into social work instead.

News for you, Kia (nice name btw):

You want to change the world but lots of us out here in the world didn't want it changed before and wish all you self-appointed, none to bright do-gooders would just leave us alone and stop trying to fix us.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at July 10, 2011 6:29 AM

Typical CTV leftist whose view of the world can be summed up in his own 2 sentences
--------------------------
Consider Fox News. What the Murdoch model demonstrated was that facts and truth could be replaced by ideology...

Posted by: OttRob at July 10, 2011 6:34 AM

Run To The Wild Little Bob, Run To The Wild. So pathetically predictable. "A Dog Always Returns To His Vomit."

Posted by: RFB at July 10, 2011 7:01 AM

So our little leftist is going to jump in his truck and drive through the U.S.? He should be taking a train through Canada if he wants to be true to his beliefs. Whatever, I wish him luck on his quest sans Pancho Sanza

Posted by: rebarbarian at July 10, 2011 7:04 AM

But look how SERIOUS he looks in the photo, with his copy of The Gazette held just at the right angle to express his disillusionment with the media as he undertakes his quest to find himself. All he's missing is a bag of his possessions tied up at the end of a pole, his wagon and his teddy.

Posted by: tower at July 10, 2011 7:19 AM

The reality of blogging, IMHO, is that I found the item on Doughnuts of more lasting value. There is just no room left on the Ghandi/King/Obama Wall Of Fame.

Posted by: WalterP at July 10, 2011 7:21 AM

Typical socialist "progressive".

I'll bet he sincerely believes that government has no place in the bedrooms of the nations, but supports laws that prohibit opening bedroom windows more than 10 cm.

Posted by: jlc at July 10, 2011 7:26 AM

A scoop missed by Nagata.

Pity. He would have been celebrated with a Companion of the Ordure of Canada.

"Canadian activists head home from Gaza flotilla
CBC.ca"

Posted by: macd at July 10, 2011 7:31 AM

Five minutes of my life I will never get back. Now the poor boy will have to get a job with an NGO.

Is there no justice in a world gone mad?

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at July 10, 2011 7:45 AM

I like the article just below it "Why Canada needs Al Jazeera" by Avi Lewis.

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at July 10, 2011 7:47 AM

Caption:

"Justin Trudeau just got a haircut."

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at July 10, 2011 7:51 AM

The repeated references to "conservative" values is an indication that he intends to set himself up as a "compassionate" conservative, then go about criticising conservatives "from the inside". He damn well knows he isn't a conservative, but he cant pull a Brooks/Parker/Frum by admitting he is a lefty! This is very typical of the "new generation" -- stealth activism, political nihilism, With very little moral fibre, and even less accountability. Buckets of self importance and desire to be popular.

In other words: A psychopathic narcissist.

Posted by: TrueNorthist at July 10, 2011 7:54 AM

Would it be okay with him if the "'action news' prophets" weren't from Iowa?

What an arrogant, self-satisfied, provincial little prick.

Posted by: Iowa Jim at July 10, 2011 7:57 AM

Interesting to note in the follow up he thanks various journalists who reposted his rant; David Akin of Sun is amongst the crowd of predictable lefties. That man is beginning to make my elbows itch.
He also jumps into an extended metaphor of using a pick axe ......and a little water has begun to flow zzzzzzzzzzz....Canlit here we come

Posted by: whit seven at July 10, 2011 8:02 AM

I knew where his infantile rant was going after the first paragraph. Nothing new here, move along please.

Posted by: cdw from canada at July 10, 2011 8:02 AM

If you have the time check out the love he gets in the comments over at Warren Kinsella's site.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at July 10, 2011 8:11 AM

I managed to read this self-aggrandizement once - but didn't get the mishmash of new age reasoning. Thank goodness for SmallDeadAnimals and the comments section - they were the GPS to a twisted, inscruitible set of random thoughts. Cheers.

Posted by: fernstalbert at July 10, 2011 8:15 AM

I have another possible explanation as to why he's heading west :

He's tired of living in a political and economic backwater - having tolisten to and report on the petty xenophobic nonsense that emanates from the Quebec legislature must become very tiresome particularly to an outsider.

I hope he does come to AB - the economic and political dynamism of the province has flipped the political bent of many lefties in the past - it could happen to him as well.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at July 10, 2011 8:17 AM

Journalists: your moral and intellectual superiors!

He discovered he didn't like the tv journalism business because he couldn't he couldn't keep his opinions to himself and he doesn't like what he sees. Okay, so that makes him different from most journalists how? I suppose the difference is that he actually quit.

I do somewhat agree with him that tv news is pretty superficial and bland, but I wouldn't like the direction he would take it in. I wish there were a right-wing tv news channel with a tone resembling that of the BBC rather than that of Fox News, with lots of documentaries and investigative journalism of stories under the radar.

On the whole, meh. Who cares.

Posted by: SUZANNE at July 10, 2011 8:22 AM

That and the pay sucked and there was little travel involved ...

Posted by: Gord Tulk at July 10, 2011 8:23 AM

This young man is full of contradictions …he’s a TV reporter who doesn’t own a TV.

Another contradiction is that he says: “Fiscally, I believe a government should be conservative. Caution seems like a good thing in stewarding the public purse. At the same time, I believe we should be taxed according to our capacity and that revenue invested, sometimes massively, in projects for the public good.” He thinks he can be a Marxist and conservative at the same time. He probably thinks that fiscally conservative means balancing the budget. But his definition of fiscal conservative has no cap on how large government can become by taxing and redistributing other people’s money… BTW many conservatives mistakingly think that balancing the budget not the size of government defines fiscal conservatism.

In short, he’s muddled and almost admits it with “Right now I need to undertake a long-delayed journey of personal discovery…..I need to consult, meditate, and plan the next steps.”

Posted by: nomdeblog at July 10, 2011 8:23 AM

So he quit because in his mind Canadians are too dumb to realise that we should believe everything we hear/see on TV news from those sexy guys Lloyd, Fifer and Ollie.
And he thinks CBC is too polite?

Hired by Soros/Suzuki/Avaaz group in 3,2,1....


Posted by: bluetech at July 10, 2011 8:24 AM

Would it be worthwhile to print off his little diatribe and send it to him in sixteen years?

Posted by: rebarbarian at July 10, 2011 8:32 AM

I started reading and then realized where it was published - Rabble.ca. Enough said.

Posted by: John B at July 10, 2011 8:46 AM

There is hope for young Kai.

Alberta might be his best bet for a lesson in political maturity or an epiphany for a immature leftist journalist.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at July 10, 2011 8:49 AM

This fellow seems to be a somewhat more erudite and verbose version of Brigette DePape, the now-turned Senate Page in writing new lyrics for 'I gotta be me'. In the face of a world and government that has burst their once-embraced little bubble on the prairie, they think themselves to be ' a new generation with a new explanation' sans the flowers in their hair. In due course he will tire of the laundromat and the shallow left bank bores from whose company he will have hoped to find acceptance, support, and admiration only to discover that, like himself, they too are, like, you know, so into themselves.

Posted by: Pidd at July 10, 2011 8:51 AM

What a moron. The guy hasn't got a clue about science and it's probably a good thing to have him gone. Where he got to crazy idea that he's a "conservative" is another hilarious bit of his self-absorbed tract.

I guess those of us who believe in objective science are now going to be described as "unscientific" by the adherents of post-modern "science" (probably because the real stuff was far too hard for them).

Well he's right about one thing, not watching TV.

Posted by: loki at July 10, 2011 8:54 AM

I salute those who read the entire thing, I couldn't do it alas I feared I would start bleeding from the eyes in bordom. Honestly the lefties really are a self absorbed narcissistic lot these days.

Posted by: Rose at July 10, 2011 9:18 AM

I remember a few years ago my daughter, 15 at the time, walked into the den where I was working and plopped herself down across the table. I took my glasses off and looked at her because I could tell it was serious. She sighed deeply and proceeded to tell me she had nothing to live for. Concerned, I asked her if she was depressed. Oh no, she said. It's just that I've seen it all. There's nothing in life left for me to do. After reading Kai's statement I feel like I'm back at the table with my daughter.

Posted by: Scot at July 10, 2011 9:23 AM

Such a poor widdle pwogwessive . . . his feelings are hurt.

Time to send in the 2nd Battalion Royal Canadian Grief Counselors and have a Parliamentary Inquiry.

This idiot has so much growing up to do. If he still holds strong to his Consequence Free Generation beliefs at 24, he's already proving to be well down a very slippery slope.

Posted by: Fred at July 10, 2011 9:24 AM

soooo...now he's going to be a highly paid 'blogger' for cbc to picv up a series of his moonbat musings on his journey with a nice job to come back to ? the transparency of his motives is matched only by his inability to see that we see it...just another know-nothing, done nothing, wannabe truedough clone who, as was so succinctly put, wants to change us when we don't want to be changed...he bought the bulls**t they fed him at the leftist academy and thinks we need to buy it too...all he can do is mutter mewlings against Fox News when he claims he doesn't own a TV and has in all likelihood, never seen the channel..at least I watch or read the cbc, when I can keep my lunch down long enough, (that and it's the only news you can get on the government intranet) but he doesn't even have the courtesy or the sense to see whatg he's complaining about, he just complains the way moonbats are supposed to...he drank the koolaid, but he should have gone for the unsweetened, he's on a sugar rush of senseless sanctimony and nothing will convince him that maybe he was lied to all those years by all those pseudo-journalists in the monnbat media.

Posted by: Bemused at July 10, 2011 9:25 AM

Hear, hear DN.

Your post radiates exasperation. With young Canadian liberals today -- like their ideology in general -- it's all about the back-pack flag currency overseas and the adulation they project it will bring them when they arrive in international airports. Essentially, it's about being the center of attention and about being adored - traits of a 10-year old. The death of the Grown Up, so to speak. They are oblivious to the depravity of the UN because the UN cool. Global village not jungle. And, like most Orwellian liberals, having less access to information (i.e. not having a TV in the house while growing up /the demise of the News of the World) means more knowledge.

Posted by: Mr. X. at July 10, 2011 9:31 AM

You can't be a fiscal conservative and liberal on social policy, for the simple reason that all social policy - good or bad - ends up costing huge wads of other people's money. Its a nice little fantasy, but it doesn't work.

As for the science thing - he writes like a true socialist who has NEVER actually done any work in the field of science - research makes small (very small) steps towards a bigger picture and it is NEVER final. What we have seen in the last couple of decades is governments jumping on the bandwagon of one little study to promote or ban something - with of course the many millions of taxpayers dollars spent to support their ban or promotion.

Posted by: Maureen at July 10, 2011 9:32 AM

I read his second whinerant, if he is wondering why folks read his tomfoolery, it is the same reason we watch the CBC. We need to know what the enemy is thinking. Just that simple. So buddy, I would like to supersize those fries!

Posted by: cdw from canada at July 10, 2011 9:46 AM

Oh to be so smart and 24! I'd like to remind him that there are a couple of sides to every debate Except for the fact, and it's a big one, that he only sees the bias on Fox's behalf and not the bias reflecting his own views, he's got most of this right. The legacy media is not doing a very good job.
We don't need bright young people working for the CBC and CTV, under the guise of neutrality, to do our thinking for us. I say bring on the bias. Wear it on your sleeves. Citizens must know, and we must teach our children, how to follow an argument and then let the words fly.

Posted by: Thomas_L...... at July 10, 2011 9:49 AM


"If storytelling turns out to be my true passion and the best use of my skills, then I'll continue down that path."

Kai, you do seem to have a natural bent for telling stories, although they seem to be rambling, disjointed, juvenile, ill-considered, inaccurate, and verbose. This writing style however, could land you a position writing stories for the Liberal war room- Warren is always looking for young putty-balls.

Posted by: Grant at July 10, 2011 9:49 AM

What a pompous windbag !

Posted by: Cdn Bacon at July 10, 2011 9:51 AM

Oh dearie me.

How to soothe such angst in a 24 year old.

Maybe things would look better in Sweden, or Belgium or Britain.

What a tit.

Posted by: Jamie MacMaster at July 10, 2011 9:54 AM

Sure is full of himself isn't he? Or full of something anyway. What an arrogant little turd.

Posted by: Rick at July 10, 2011 9:59 AM

He's VERY young and inexperienced in life, EXTREMELY self absorbed (typical of his age cohort) and badly in need of a merciless editor.

Allow me to edit his cris de couer:

"I don't know what I want to be when I grow up, and I'm so unsavvy about how the real world works that I quit a good paying job BEFORE finding my next paying gig."

There, that was easy ... 3000 words boiled down to what he was trying - without success - to say.

Posted by: Davers6 at July 10, 2011 10:01 AM

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
H.L. Mencken

Posted by: Ianb at July 10, 2011 10:06 AM

I only have 2 things to comment on...

1.) A lot written about what is wrong with TV journalism, and various networks from someone that have never really watched or owned a television...

2.) How can you lose a seat at the Security Council when you never had it in the first place...

Posted by: NorthernLight at July 10, 2011 10:10 AM

Danger lurks "when idiots don't know they are idiots, and are left to inform others". This Twit doesn't even know he is a twit.

Posted by: bartinsky at July 10, 2011 10:18 AM

Maybe he'll "get" he's an idiot when his gear is stolen at the first motel or the lids fly off his big tupperware containers in the back of his open pickup truck.


"I don't own a TV but Rachel Maddow, Keith Oberman and Jon Stewart are awesome"

Posted by: richfisher at July 10, 2011 10:20 AM

Well, it's really only a mixed bag of a young person searching for a place in this world.
While most of what he says reflects on the usual
Quebec identity disease he does make a couple of points worth recognizing and discussing.

One; for Quebec media people the national Assembly is far more important to them than Canada and it's Parliament.
Two: he raises the issue of tribal partisanship. Given that we have a Majority Government we really need to keep asking; What happened to getting rid of the Human Rights vipers and laws?
Why hasn't the rights and democracy group in Montreal been shut down?
Did our Government ask the CP if we wanted to increase funding for and support the current CBC?

There are a huge list of issues that Conservative folks hold dear and that need correcting. Are we so sensitive that we won't push our own Government to do the right things?

Tribal partisanship has brought down many governments and I wouldn't want that to happen to us!

For this young man, I suggest that he is doing the right thing by leaving his post until he gets his head together. I wish him well and I sincerely hope he learns the value of critical thinking.

Posted by: mewilde at July 10, 2011 10:54 AM

Someone in the MSM is quitting because they are not free to be enough of a flaming, lying liberal at work?
The MSM is so restrained by their sense of fairness they can't tell the truth about how awful Fox News and the Harper govt is?
Please send me lots of whatever that guy smokes. With the world in such shitty shape I would love to be this out of contact with reality.

Posted by: GaryP at July 10, 2011 10:57 AM

A reporter's job is, wait for it, to REPORT. Not to effect change, not to advocate. Report.

The beauty of Fox news is that it is up front about it's political leaning. CBC/CTV, etc. wrap themselves in an "objective" blanket, but clearly they're not.

Has he ever listened to someone explain the doubts about "global warming"? Does he know anyone who's pro-life?

I'm glad he's coming out west. Let him get a real job, spend a couple of years out of the bubble he's been in his whole life. Then I'd like to hear his opinions.

Posted by: Norman at July 10, 2011 10:59 AM

Twenty four, its the new fourteen.

Posted by: Joe at July 10, 2011 11:14 AM

He trashed Fox.

Ergo he's more or less a pinko himself.

See ya! Thanks for making way for a hopefully unbiased replacement.

Posted by: Curious at July 10, 2011 11:20 AM

Now that was entertainment.

Poor baby, they weren't listening to him so he quit. Just another wimpy lefty that doesn't even know how much of a total lefty he is.

The naiveté is stunning.

Like most of the big babies of the left ... It's all about him.

If he ever grows up he will regret quitting his cushy gig at the CTV emporium.

Posted by: Abe Froman at July 10, 2011 11:22 AM

another telltale sign of incipient moonbatism....complaining that he was in the Reserves but couldn't get a 'blue beret' so he apparently quit...or more likely, 'unvolunteered' when he found out he might have to actually head off to Afghanistan to do some real work in exchange for taking the Queen's shilling...I spent 20 years in harness, the primary job of a soldier is to kill..the..enemy....nothing else. 'peacekeeping' is a myth perpeuated by liebral PR wonks to sell the military to moonbats that will never understand what it's actually for...to protect THEM...it's only fitting that when the last of our protections are cast away by the likes of this whining twit that he and those like him will be the first ones hanging from the construction cranes after the fatwa is read in what used to be our Parliament...a military is formed to CREATE peace by destroying the other side's willingness and ability to fight...and you can't 'keep' a peace that both sides don't want...Canada, during the liebral years, cleverly got itself into places where there was alreadu a standoff or grudging peace going on, or in the works, and stood between two sides that really didn't want to go back to war at the moment and gladly accepted the excuse of the 'blue berets' to either give up or quietly rearm...we failed horribly in Rwanda and Somalia and other places because we naively expected to 'keep' a peace that neither side wanted....the problem is that liebrals simply can't believe that there are people in this world that won't be pacified by a few verses of kum-by-a and will do what they want to whoever they want to do it to until someone physically stops them.

Posted by: Bemused at July 10, 2011 11:24 AM

Kai! Kai! Don't forget your sandals!

Posted by: ∞ ≠ ø at July 10, 2011 11:30 AM

WHAT A FAG!!!

Posted by: paul in calgary at July 10, 2011 11:32 AM

Robert, you owe me 5 minutes. Why read the whole thing? I started off thinking "oh wonderful, this Quebecer is coming to his senses, and double that, yet a CTV reporter coming to the realization he's caught in a downward spiral of grade 6 reporting."

He did in essence say that and I kept reading. Then I got confused. Loosing a UN seat? FoxNews drops facts for ideology? Wind farms?

Ok, now I'm thinking "ah just his tinted glasses from his stint at CTV showing" but it goes on and on, ad nausium.

Robert, you could have warned me this was useless drivel from a spoiled brat and I would have gone on with more interesting posts elsewhere.

;-)

Posted by: johnbrooks at July 10, 2011 11:33 AM

YukonGold. "iPhone4" ...ha! good one.

But I did notice the CBC microphone and wondered.

Johnbrooks.
(7" Acer wanna be a iPad when I grow up, Netbook)

Posted by: johnbrooks at July 10, 2011 11:38 AM

I agree with most of the excellent opinions written here but it's discouraging to read words like "tit", "tool", "psychopathic", "turd"...this smacks of the inability to pin point what is really wrong with Kai. First of all, it's youth. Secondly, it's narcissism. Thirdly, it's lack of exposure to other ideas. If there's one thing that this guy does have going for him, it's his talent in stringing words together. Let's try to get him on our side.

Posted by: Val at July 10, 2011 11:38 AM

This guy is really full of himself. He is also full of what comes out of the North end of a South-facing bull.

Thank you for leaving broadcasting, your absence will be deeply appreciated.

Posted by: Enkidu at July 10, 2011 11:38 AM

"an" iPad.

...dang editorial department.

Posted by: johnbrooks at July 10, 2011 11:39 AM

What a waste of time reading this thing. I'll never get that 5 mins back. Why was this considered recommended reading again?

Posted by: Smitherenzes at July 10, 2011 11:39 AM

Oh, this is priceless. Another leftywhiner who quit his job in journalism has posted this on Kai's website. Apparently, those of us on the right now have death squads a-gunnin' for the noble left-wing slackers. Really. In comparison, Kai seems well-adjusted.

=================

Skookum1 Says:
July 10, 2011 at 08:27 | Reply

Kai: I’ll save any further political comments for later after I’ve read all the rest, other than to note the defamation and insults you’ve experienced are becoming stockv-in-trade of the so-called “right” in Canada ( who are all “wrong”, in soul and fact), and calling your testament of personal truth a “left-wing rant” shows how far the intellectual level of the right has sunk….”rant” is often used in Wikipedia debates to deride people who make sense, or write in longer-than-point-form, and typically are right-wing in action, often professed as such, often in denial about who they are; I was a major editor there for years, finally quit in frustration and anger during the recent election campaign (actually I was blocked, but got myself that way deliberately) because it was being so easily used by the Harperite agenda, and so many of its “unpaid contributors” are clearly political/corporate p.r. hacks….

That wasn’t my intended post, just by way of introduction, really….

What I wanted to say about you crossing into the United States were two things:

1) Watch your back. And don’t shut up, and keep enough of us aware of where you are, privately if not publicly. Think Karen Silkwood, and don’t put it past the “enemies of freedom” in Canada to have you stalked and make it look like something that happens to you was random crime. This is not the world that it was. I remember one American journalist/speaker on NPR years ago who talked about all of the US “conspiracies” so-called (which is how facts are regularly derided by rightist propagandists/insulters – as “conspiracy theories)….he said that he knew he had to be as vocal, and visible, as possible, in order for him to survive, that if he wasn’t, he would be easy to dispose of and silence. Watch for lights following you at night, don’t pre-book hotels or motels….and, when possible, speak to independent media people and get them to hear your story, get airtime in the US about the failure of democracy in Canada and the growth of its police state and mounting militarism. The left down there still think we’re “the nice country”, something to aspire to…..when you have the energy, you can help take down that myth with a sledgehammer. As we all should. Watch your back my friend, not in fear, but with wisdom……which you seem to have aplenty but don’t think being on a hiatus or sabbatical of sorts means that they’ve turned off their guns. They’ll be looking for you now, and will do whatever they can to discredit you. Or silence you outright.

Posted by: itobo at July 10, 2011 11:49 AM

I remember clearly as a 24 year old, while working a summer job packing potato chips, chatting up a pretty poli-sci major about the UN. We both felt passionately that the UN needed its own army so as to quickly respond to world crises. I did not, at that time, understand that it was not the fault of the countries supplying troops that they were so inefficient. And here young Kai joins the reserves, not to be a soldier but to be a "peacekeeper". Ahhh, the foolishness of youth.

Posted by: the rat at July 10, 2011 11:53 AM

Like many in our faux intelligentsia, Nagata fails miserably at critical thinking, instead skipping lightly from one emotional reaction to another.

Take his notion that we should be 'taxed to our capacity.'

The coercion required to confiscate the money we have earned is about the most coercive act that a govt can undertake. Everything that follows about him favouring a 'conservative' govt is nonsense in light of this belief.

As for Olbermann being a 'serious' commentator, well, what can one say.

Posted by: chip at July 10, 2011 11:55 AM

It’s a spoof, has to be. “I'll say off the bat that my views don't completely mesh with any one political party … high-speed rail or renewable energy infrastructure … If a woman needs to get an abortion or a gay couple wants to get married … despite global scientific consensus”

Posted by: Mike McCormick at July 10, 2011 12:02 PM

Not at gun point Gord. Not at gun point.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at July 10, 2011 12:14 PM

If there's one thing that this guy does have going for him, it's his talent in stringing words together.

You must have read something different from what I did. The blather I read showed an author with a talent for extending a one-sentence thought into an overwrought, incoherent mass of weepy drivel.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 10, 2011 12:29 PM

I quite reading when he started extoling CTV as unbiased.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at July 10, 2011 12:32 PM

I suggest that Kai tittle his essay Witless Shrugged.

Who is Kai Nagata?

Indeed.

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 12:34 PM

I just think - poor guy. So young. Will he wince when he reads this even 10 years from now? I think so.

Posted by: Ww at July 10, 2011 12:35 PM

I don't think Kai's blinkered.  I just think he's painfully young and inexperienced, and lacks a certain subset of critical thinking skills (and the courage to use them) that sometimes only come with age.

In a lot of ways, he reminds me of, well, me, thirty years ago.  It was a long, hard journey, and it hasn't stopped (and won't until death takes me), but he's still got a lot of time to develop.

Posted by: Garth Wood at July 10, 2011 12:40 PM

Oh, he is such an individual thinker and full of original though. just look at his tribal art tattoo, rarely found on douche bags these days, as proof.

Posted by: tom@drum at July 10, 2011 12:43 PM

I was hoping that his "coming out of the closet" was for real.

Hopefully it is true, otherwise he could reproduce and spit out more "Justin Trudeau's" for all of us to endure.

Sigh...

Posted by: glacierman at July 10, 2011 12:46 PM

Young? The guy's in his mid-twenties and can't construct a single sentence consisting of anything other than regurgitated leftist pablum his "education" has spoon-fed him.

He's far more likely to be on another Gaza flotilla in 20 years than able to do simple math.

Posted by: Waterhouse at July 10, 2011 12:47 PM

I can't help but think he is an articulate idiot. He actually believes
that the CTV gave him editorial freedom.
Who remembers during the initial stages of the Fukishima meltdown when CTV interviewed a Canadian nuclear expert who stated the fallout zone would extend to downtown Toronto if
Chalk River melted down. The interjection and statement of the interviewer to shut him up were priceless.
I can't watch the MSM, it's all about omission and reactionary
superficial crap.

Posted by: rip-n-shred at July 10, 2011 12:47 PM

Talk about a sore loser!

Posted by: hollinm at July 10, 2011 12:50 PM

Talk about a sore loser!

Posted by: hollinm at July 10, 2011 12:51 PM

"But Canada has no Jon Stewart to unravel their ideology and act as a counterweight. Our satirists are toothless and boring, with the notable exception of Jean-René Dufort. And on the more serious side, we have no Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow."

No, we have Rick Mercer,Heather Mallick, Jane Taber,Craig (Trudeau was my best buddy)Oliver,Bill Good, and the entire staff of the CBC.

I assume he's next going to have his autobiography published so we peasants can learn from the wisdom of his 24 years.

That was like a roller coaster ride, went along smooth and flat for a while,then plunged of a precipice just after the above quoted remark, into a cesspool of liberal drivel at the bottom.

For Allah's sake, stop in Manitoba or Saskatchewan or Alberta, DO NOT come here to B.C., we're like the camel ,one more straw/leftie....

Posted by: dmorris at July 10, 2011 12:51 PM

If he worked for CTV, how come the microphone he's holding in the picture says CBC? I sure hope we don't get him on our payroll,we already have our share of egomaniacs like Mansbridge and the recently hired Tommy Clark who left CTV in a huff.

Posted by: Liz J at July 10, 2011 12:52 PM

Are CTV Journalosers chucking their cushy gigs en masse?
First it was Giggles Taber,now Numskull Nagata.
Will Owliver be next?

Posted by: bocanut at July 10, 2011 1:00 PM

He is simply a product of our "education" system and Journalism School.

Because of the massive critical thinking ability of the commenters here, they easily reveal the malaise that infects, not just this jerk, but most of our youth - namely, they are sorely lacking in critical thinking ability.
(They see Jon Stewart and Kieth Olberman as reality and shun reality itself.)

Posted by: ron in kelowna ∴ at July 10, 2011 1:11 PM

He is so naive that he doesn't even twig to the notion that CTV hired him over more talented others because he has a Japanese name (multi cult quota ... our strength is our diversity crap) .... that's the same as the gender thing and the Barbie and Ken thing he alluded to.

What a hopeless twit.

Posted by: Abe Froman at July 10, 2011 1:16 PM

And why is he holding a CBC microphone when he works for CTV .... is this whole thing a scam?

Posted by: Abe Froman at July 10, 2011 1:17 PM

Boohoohoo...that made me sad.

Won't somebody give Kia a bursary, so he can study how to improve the world for the betterment of all socialist dreamers.

Good news is he is heading west to live with Robert in Vanloser where his socialist vote will be successful every time, he can probably hitch up with Camille Cachnio. As double-minority, university-educated, Canadians their financial future would be assured

Posted by: Cascadian at July 10, 2011 1:18 PM

"Canada has no Jon Stewart to unravel their ideology and act as a counterweight.... we have no Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow."

Good lord. Is this guy seriously trying to claim that the Canadian media isn't leftist ENOUGH?

Posted by: Ellie in T.O. at July 10, 2011 1:20 PM

24 year old... case closed. This isn't worth pondering any further.

Posted by: ChrisinMB at July 10, 2011 1:26 PM

Two prayers of thanks spring immediately to mind.

A) Thank Heaven I jettisoned cable TV, so I've never wasted precious seconds of my life watching the propaganda this Useful Idiot generated.

B) Thank Heaven he's removed himself from a position of visibility and stuck himself someplace I can safely ignore him until he grows up. If ever.

Posted by: The Phantom at July 10, 2011 1:28 PM

What a self-absorbed load of whiny drivel. I knew almost instantly where this screed was going, confirmed when he opines (as one who has never owned a T.V.) that Fox News was biased, but CTV was a paragon of objectivity.

He did not deserve my attention after that. And, from what I can glean from these comments, I probably saved myself from a couple bleeding eyeballs by stopping when I did.

Posted by: Colin in Mission BC at July 10, 2011 1:38 PM

what a crock of sh*t.. this guy sounds like garth turner.

"me me me me, me me. me me me me me me me me, me me me me me, me! me me me me me me me. poor me :("

Posted by: steve at July 10, 2011 1:43 PM

The mantra of today's youth...

'I, Me, My...I, Me, My... '

Posted by: old duffer at July 10, 2011 1:47 PM

Sorry. Couldn't make it passed the Jon Stewart quote.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 10, 2011 1:57 PM

He used the phrase "raging narcissists" to describe some of his colleagues in the broadcast media. He should look in the mirror.

He should just say "It's a great pity my competitors can't be shut down and sent to reeducation camps, as they are evil incarnate."

I don't think he is worthy of undoing Ezra Levant's sandal strap.

Posted by: Douglas Bass at July 10, 2011 2:01 PM

Nope, we don't get to hang this one on his age.

I work with folks his age and younger everyday. And everyday they get up, put on their country's unifrom and do the job.

This is just plain old narcissism. Valid at any age.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at July 10, 2011 2:02 PM

Golly! Only 24 and he knows the answers to so many difficult questions.
I wish I had some of that there edjumakayshun.

Posted by: Patrick Armstrong at July 10, 2011 2:13 PM

I think he just decided to jump off a sinking ship. If you read between the lines you can see that. He's saying it's Bell's fault they're cutting the news division. I think it's the "news" division's fault.

Posted by: James at July 10, 2011 2:17 PM

I read that, losing patience towards the end.

This is the product of a reasonably intelligent mind that has been told for its entire existence that it is special and the world revolves around it.

It's also the product of educational brainwashing, from kindergarden to journalism school.

It's also the product of the narccicism of youth.

However, I have not lost all hope for Kai. In another decade or so, with a bit of life experience and out of the coccoon of journalism, he might go all David Mammet on us.

Hell, he's only 24. I have warts older than that.

Posted by: old Lori at July 10, 2011 2:21 PM

I went over to his web page for the followup and found most of the comments nauseating. I guess I just haven't been to many left-wing sites for a while. Couldn't leave there without posting a comment and will be interesting to see what shows up in return. I know I won't change any of the minds from people who post adoring messages there, but I'm curious what type of response I'll get. I view it as applying a perturbation to a black box and observing the response. Here's what I posted.

Well I will agree with you on one thing and that is not watching TV which I haven’t done for years now. The most hilarious part of your essay was how the Harper government was “anti-science”. Obviously you know nothing about science. Science doesn’t get done by concensus – science involves the making of predictions and discarding hypotheses that fail in that regard. CAGW is more of a religion than science as nothing can dissuade its adherents to change despite 10 years of no warming, sea levels stubbornly refusing to budge and evidence of massive fraud in the climate “science” establishment. CO2 levels have been rising for those 10 years. We were in a natural warming cycle and the trend now is for potentially a new Maudner minimum – the “green” agenda will result in billions of deaths from cold and starvation if it were to be followed and the earth cools.

Being in the MSM, it doesn’t surprise me that you’ve never heard of climategate or looked into it. Stephen Harper has policies that are based on real science. The primary threat to western civilization is from the totalitarian system being implemented by watermelons.

I suggest that you actually learn some science by taking some science courses (you’ve got time to do this now) before making comments that can be so easily shot down. Head over to http://wattsupwiththat.com/ to learn from the expertise on that site.

Posted by: loki at July 10, 2011 2:47 PM

Why did he say he was a non-partisan fiscal conservative ? Is he going to fake being a conservative and join the conservative bloggers and start bitching about Harper , like a few others did ? Or has he gotten a job offer from SunMedia ?

Posted by: cantuc at July 10, 2011 2:50 PM

The seat on the UN Security Council was for a 2-year term.

Posted by: oneblankspace at July 10, 2011 2:57 PM

CTV: not biased enough.

Posted by: The Joel at July 10, 2011 2:59 PM

Not to be critical,Robert,but shouldn't your link say "laughable explanation why"???
They say opinions are like a**holes,everybody has one,but why do leftards keep spewing so much crap?

Posted by: Justthinkin at July 10, 2011 3:01 PM

Steve - "me me me me me me poor me" - if said at the right timbre that sounds more like Professor Bunsen's assistant Beaker when he's asked to step into the teleport machine, than it does Garth Turner....

Posted by: RN200 at July 10, 2011 3:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUeeIjyI7QQ&feature=related

Posted by: RN200 at July 10, 2011 3:17 PM

Beaker at his best...brings Kai to mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUeeIjyI7QQ&feature=related

Posted by: RN200 at July 10, 2011 3:18 PM

If you remember nothing else from his 3000 word self-paean, remember this line:

"More damnably, the resulting strategy is now to compete with for-profit networks for the lowest hanging fruit."

That lowest hanging fruit would be anyone who isn't capitvated by socialist politics..or in the language of so-called "progressives", the 'uninformed masses'

Posted by: Roo at July 10, 2011 3:27 PM

Oh Lord, please give me the wisdom to go only where your grace will keep me.

Suzuki's grandson I presume?

Posted by: Private at July 10, 2011 3:34 PM

@ whit seven, I am starting to think that David Aiken is the token liberal on Sun News.

Bemused @ 11:24, exactly!

ron in kelowna @ 1:11 PM nails and says exactly what I thought when reading Kia's drivel. old Lori also mentions this.

Kia is a perfect example of what is being pushed out of most of our educational systems in Canada today. God help Canada as our future looks grim.

loki needs three cheers, here are mine. Hip Hooray, Hip Hooray, Hip Hooray.

Welcome to all the new posters on this thread. This news of this story somehow sure got around.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at July 10, 2011 3:34 PM

Maybe Michael Moore will offer Kai a job.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 3:39 PM

a whining crap weasel

Posted by: cal2 at July 10, 2011 3:40 PM

AB may just be what the doc ordered with respect to changing this guys outlook on life (he is only 24--very young by anybody's standard).

I grew up in Windsor, ON (the farthest "right" this city ever votes is Liberal). So I was raised on UAW/CAW (auto unions), NDP and Liberal claptrap until the age of 19. I remember thinking the Reform Party was the party of the "angry, old white men". I'm a visible minority and this fit the script which the CBC and the Globe and Mail painted about this party.

Then I got posted to Alberta at age 28 and actually started listening to what the Reform Party stood for... not only were my eyes opened (for the first time)...but I also became a true small-c conservative (as per the Reform Party). I also started looking askance at every bit of information the mainstream media "fed" me. The transformation took four years. I'll never ever go back to thinking that anybody owes me "free" healthcare (I believe that changing over to a private system will fix all the problems we're experiencing now) and the government (all levels) knows how best to spend MY money. The list goes on but those are the highlights.

Posted by: favill at July 10, 2011 3:42 PM

Good gosh! I don't know Kai Nagata, but the boy is clearly talented - his explanation for leaving CTV is a fine piece of writing.

But the boy is also clearly confusued - "...we have no Keith Olbermann or Rachel Maddow"? Mature Canadians take as much pride in this as we do in having no Nancy Grace.

No need to quote W. Churchill here, but, for the moment, time for wising up is on Boy Nagata's side.

Good luck to him.

Posted by: Don at July 10, 2011 4:13 PM

Has anyone been doing the fact checking?

If I was about to get my ass fired and I had more brains and less conscience than I do maybe I'd pretend I was altruistic, get out in front of the breaking bad news and direct the eyes of the crowd to a parade of my own making?

Just saying.

Posted by: Private at July 10, 2011 4:22 PM

Almost as many "I"'s in there as an Obama speech....almost sickening in its narcissism.....

Posted by: jcl at July 10, 2011 4:26 PM

val - let's get him on our side

That's the right idea.

Posted by: Orlin at July 10, 2011 4:33 PM

Thanks for the support Ken. I've wasted enough time on the guys blog seeing what kind of response I get to posting some basic facts. The responses have been regurgitated leftist propaganda and I doubt that most of the people gushing over Nagata would recognize true science if they tripped over it.

There was a time when I found it enjoyable to enter the enemies camp and spar with them on their own territory, but the level of intellect I've seen there seems to be rather low. A lot of talk about "feelings" but no one seems to have a clue about the workings of science. I'm sure all of these people have computers and I-phones and probably think there's some form of magic that makes them work. That part is scary. Reminds me of Pirsig's Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance where he classified people as seeing only the surface reality of things or seeing through the surface reality and seeing how things work. The people on that site are as superficial as it gets.

People can change and I've certainly changed a lot since I was 24 (the end of my hippy period) but it helps to have some intellectual tools one can use by that age and Nagata seems to only be able to rearrange leftist dogma in his writings.

Posted by: loki at July 10, 2011 5:14 PM

I second Cal2's "whining crap weasel" comment...

Posted by: Soccermom at July 10, 2011 5:58 PM

A ridiculous site, that, loki; fools snickering about how you and Stephen Harper obviously believe in The Rapture and creationism. After your last rather patient explanation I don't think you'll be getting any more responses. Ya did good.

(How did Kai get a gig like that by 24? Who are mommy and daddy I wonder?)

Posted by: Black Mamba at July 10, 2011 6:00 PM

It wasn't mommy and daddy. It was his looks. He almost but didn't quite say it.

Posted by: steve at July 10, 2011 6:35 PM

More on Kai Nagata's unusually quick ascent before bailing from CTV. He's also worked for the CBC.

"Kai Nagata is currently working as reporter and journalist for CBC Radio in Montreal. Over the past year, his production work has aired on several Montreal-based arts and current-affairs programs, and nationally on the pilot show Mashup. His stories have played on the local and provincial news, as well as across the country, on The World at 6 and on the hourly bulletins.

Kai completed his BA Honours in this department in 2007, with a thesis (supervisor: Professor Adam Frank) on politics and aesthetics in Canadian hip hop, specifically in two albums by a Somali immigrant to Toronto and an Aboriginal group from Hobbema, Alberta. Following his BA, he pursued a one-year graduate diploma in journalism at Concordia University chaired by former CBC host Peter Downie."

http://www.arts.ubc.ca/about-arts/single-page-news/article/613/1201.html

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 6:40 PM

What a perfect twat!

Posted by: OMMAG at July 10, 2011 6:45 PM

Thanks Black Mamba. You're right, no further tangential and irrelevant material in response to my last post. Now I remember why I gave up on leftist sites -- what passes for intellectual discourse there is something I left behind in the 6th grade. I guess it was too much to hope for the sort of repartee that ET and I have engaged in on some issues that we disagree about.

chutzpahticular, your sleuthing has verified what I suspected. Nagata has absolutely no science background but considers himself competent to spout off on climate science. Not only that, but he chooses the most anti-intellectual form of "music" to do a thesis on. I'd have a lot higher opinion of him if he'd say looked at Blues.

Now I'm off to engage in far more stimulating intellectual pursuits than interacting with Nagano's site -- time to vacuum my house.

Posted by: loki at July 10, 2011 7:05 PM

chutz

So this philosopher has a degree in hip hop, specializing in complete stupid?

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 7:10 PM

"[P]olitics and aesthetics in Canadian hip hop"?!?!?!

You know, I try very hard not to hold anybody's youth or ignorance against them (youth and its concomitant arrogance is an inevitable condition through which we must all pass, and ignorance is hard to self-remedy because its fundamental nature is to be unaware of itself), but the notion that you can get a B.A. honours with a thesis in this crap?!

I got an M.A. by force of having to study the canon of Western English literature, from Chaucer to the 20th century. If I'd tried to argue for doing a thesis in bloody hip hop music (and basing it on no more than two frickin' albums) every professor I ever worked with would have laughed me off campus.

I've known higher education has been grossly overvalued for some time, but I always nursed the fond belief there was still genuine learning going on in some places underneath all the bureaucratic cruft. I have been badly shaken in this belief.

Posted by: Stephen J. at July 10, 2011 7:11 PM

By the way, just out of curiosity: Why do leftist/progressivist writers always accuse Fox News of dishonesty and inaccuracy without ever citing an actual specific example? I wouldn't put such a thing past any given business-media organization, certainly, but I wouldn't mind evidence to back up the criticism.

Posted by: Stephen J. at July 10, 2011 7:17 PM

sync, pretty much! He and a buddy made a hip hop rappy kind of video called Montreal Postcard. Kai's a wannabe *entertainer.*

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 7:20 PM

Don't most of these poor drones have to slog through a four-year degree in journalizing? This guy gets off with one and suddenly he's a bureau head? And I've seen prettier; he could certainly stand to lose a few pounds. He's related to somebody.

Posted by: Black Mamba at July 10, 2011 7:20 PM

chutz

So should we consider this his Hunter S. Thompson phase?

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 7:29 PM

Black Mamba

We are all related to amoeba...some more closely then others.

Weird eh?

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 7:39 PM

sync: *bingo!* Fear and Loathing on the Media Beat.:)

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 7:49 PM

Kai completed his BA Honours in this department in 2007, with a thesis (supervisor: Professor Adam Frank) on politics and aesthetics in Canadian hip hop, specifically in two albums by a Somali immigrant to Toronto and an Aboriginal group from Hobbema, Alberta. Following his BA, he pursued a one-year graduate diploma in journalism at Concordia University chaired by former CBC host Peter Downie."


well....that explains how he got a job at cbc..and why the grownups should be looking a little more closely on what cbc does with our money...

what it doesn't explain, however, is how this 'education' makes him eligible for anything else in this world except derisive laughter from anyone who ever produced anything to better mankind...

seriously, a thesis based on the grand sum of TWO hihp-hop albums that likely sold 20 copies betweeen them ? why not throw in an alanis morrisette B-side and go for a doctorate ?

Posted by: Bemused at July 10, 2011 8:11 PM

That kid needs a sidekick.

Posted by: syncrodox at July 10, 2011 8:11 PM

This line jumped out at me..

"The Canada whose values I thought I was signing up to promote and defend is increasingly unrecognizable from an international vantage point."

..epitomizing the assumption that his values are the Canadian exemplar. Newsflash: some Canadians prefer peacemakers to peacekeepers.

Posted by: max at July 10, 2011 8:30 PM

He is right about the brass knuckles though.

Posted by: max at July 10, 2011 8:35 PM

The guy was going along OK, I thought, until the line about being fiscally conservative was followed up with endorsing a govt response to AGW and generous social programs through graduated taxation (i.e. with the rich paying the greatest percentage by far).

From there it descended quite rapidly into full-on leftist idealism and science-as-salvation philosophy.

Posted by: Mark at July 10, 2011 8:39 PM

Full of no sound and no fury signifying nothing.
Obviously Bell has no claim on the literary gold
about to pour forth like a flood.

A well written tome detailing the machinations that led to the NDP
getting a bunch of goofballs elected in Quebec's federal ridings in
the last election sounds like a winner for someone "nonpolitical who
was in the thick of it".
.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at July 10, 2011 9:11 PM

"He is right about the brass knuckles though.
Posted by: max at July 10, 2011 8:35 PM"

max, in what way?

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 10, 2011 9:35 PM

@chutzpahticular:

Contrary to what the Kais of downtown Toronto may think, the current federal government didn't get elected by pandering to progressives. Though many SDA readers may think the Tories are too soft on the establishment left, (including me) there's little doubt that the monopoly is broken and there's gonna be plenty of pounded progressives before we go to the polls again. One concrete sign is the imminent civil service beatdown. I'm hoping it will augmented by privatization and public sector union busting. And someone really outta put the N back in NGO. Yep I'm just another Stephen Hoperite.

Posted by: max at July 10, 2011 9:57 PM

I came dangerously close to caring, then I remembered, I had uranium to mine. Comrades, we must serve the greater good. At least until I get out of this gulag.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at July 10, 2011 10:24 PM

Another agw koolaid victim/sucker.
Good riddance.

Posted by: eastern paul at July 10, 2011 10:27 PM

One more climate warming nut out of the closet. Hello, and goodbye.

Posted by: Frank Hilliard at July 10, 2011 10:56 PM

Well... there is a job for Brigette DePape after all.

None of this washes. So he's 24. What budding idealist of his age wouldn't find that job perfect? The company perfect. The ability to quietly push the leftist agenda that so many like him do, perfect. No, this is misdirection.

"hiding my opinions and yet somehow hoping that one viewer every night might piece together what I wanted to say."

OK Let's see.

"Coming out of the closet"
"...make the flame burn brighter,..."
"...journey of personal discovery..."
"I'll make the switch..."
"...I need to surround myself with family and friends..."
"I'm broke,"
"I've never been more free."

Sounds like he may have had a 'Ted Koppel Experience'

I think Mr. Nagata met a fellow like Craig J. Spence.

Posted by: ∞ ≠ ø at July 10, 2011 11:50 PM

He's a Leftie 'activist', and feels too constrained by the attempt to remain neutral as a journalist.

Posted by: grok at July 10, 2011 11:55 PM

"One concrete sign is the imminent civil service beatdown. I'm hoping it will augmented by privatization and public sector union busting. And someone really outta put the N back in NGO. Yep I'm just another Stephen Hoperite."

Aha, thanks! A whittling down of the public sector, where possible and practical, is past due. The role of government has changed and expanded over the years; it encroaches more and more into our everyday lives. The more we are taxed, the more we expect for those taxes. The more we demand, the more we are taxed. Vicious circle.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 11, 2011 12:11 AM

Well, have decided to terminate my study on use of non-linear perturbation techniques on CAGW adherents. In keeping with the nature of the prevailing motif of the site, I've gone entirely on somatic markers as indicators of significant response signals.

I doubt there was a science degree to be found in any of the participants. The feeling I got was akin to walking into a room to meet with someone and seeing a very realistic humanoid robot that will only recite sections of the speeches of Vladimir Lenin with the appropriate section being selected by a keyword in the last sentence that it heard.

There was not an original thought on AGW in the whole group. I thought I might get into a debate on the significance of the sign of the Tijander proxies in Mann's work but I doubt that anyone posting there had actually read any of Mann's papers. They were one of the most conformist groups of humanoid robots I've run into in a long time. I guess sheeple would be a good descriptive term.

The data gathered today supported my hypothesis that TV news is at best simply crap and more likely dangerous propaganda facilitating the growth of a depraved electorate. When one looks at the background of the people that are involved in the TV news business one would be a fool to waste any time on it (Sun TV excepted).

Fortunately at this time individuals that can be found on Nagata's site are a minority in Canada, but one has to always keep in mind what happened in the US. The following quote is worth repeating:

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Sorry, can't remember who posted it yesterday but it's quite a profound statement.

Posted by: loki at July 11, 2011 12:54 AM

loki, greenwashed minds require deprogramming. Logic doesn't work on psyches that far gone.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 11, 2011 1:16 AM

My, My, the little whiner does go on!

Posted by: Snowbunnie at July 11, 2011 2:07 AM

Duuuuude! Grow up.

Posted by: Gaijinboy at July 11, 2011 2:07 AM

My, My, the little whiner does go on!

Posted by: Snowbunnie at July 11, 2011 2:07 AM

Nagata: "Why kill the census? Literally in order to make decisions in the dark, without the relevant data."

The point is that most of these decisions are no business of government in the first place; they have an impact on the lives of real people. Only the social engineers "require" the data for their depredations. If one person has four bedrooms in his house while another has only two, then the latter is a victim of "bedroom inequality" that a new social program will be needed to redress. The social engineers in their narcissistic power-hungry arrogance treat real people like pawns on a chessboard. We've had it up to here with these parasites.

Posted by: nv53 at July 11, 2011 2:15 AM

@ loki:

the problem facing us today is that hard science has been banned from the classroom thanks to it not conforming to the great liebral experiment...and the lack of actual scientists willing to stand up for their science is the result of liebrals controlling research monies and appointments within academia....in other words, sign on to the liebral lie or be unemployed and unemployable...typical leftist totalitarianism at it's finest...it's gotten to the point that it's spilled over into the classroom...my son was headed for a career in the sciences, until he dared take a stand against his Grade 12 English commissar over Afghanistan...the end result of that was that his English mark dropped radically, based solely on that content, not the criteria of the curriculum, far enough to prevent application to University....no appeal, no redress...moonbats with power will abuse it consistently and endanger our entire society without regard...yet we keep electing them

Posted by: Bemused at July 11, 2011 8:28 AM

I can't find out who said it, it's attributed as being "from the Czech Republic" but I thought when I saw it that I had to share it...it's one of the most accurate statements I've ever seen, from a people who suffered under the type of dictator the USA will end up with if they're not very careful....2012 could very well be their last election...if that one is even allowed to happen...and once the dust clears from the bloody struggle to retake their country, this should be carved over the doorway of every schoolhouse so they never forget...


"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Posted by: Bemused at July 11, 2011 8:36 AM

I would posit for Bemused that the REAL danger is "Law Enforcement" who spit on their oath of office to "...preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution..." and instead bow and scrape before their Masters and then do WHATEVER they are told. ABCNNBCBS and their dead-tree fellow travelers have done nothing more than spew their adulation for The One, and thereby con many into voting for him. Of course, the Leftists needed no encouragement, nor did the blacks. With such support and the incompetence of the competition (John McCain - REALLY?), nothing different would be expected. But if the country's "Law Enforcement" actually honored their oath, The One would be in jail right now, if not already executed for treason.

Posted by: Mark Matis at July 11, 2011 9:06 AM

loki quotes @ 12:54 AM: "The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."

Right on! Our public schools are turning out legions of these programmed robots: in fact, our public school systems, from the ministries down, are now run by slush-brained, “progressive” idiots—and they’re not very nice either. (They most certainly do NOT follow their own “Be nice to everyone” behaviour codes.)

Ann Coulter’s new book, “Demonic” explains these people well: they are “the mob”. They have no individual thoughts, they’re entitled, they’re stupid, they anger easily, one can’t reason with them, and then—Vancouver riots—they blow!

About a dozen years ago—30 years into my four decade career—I started describing my 10 year old student’s behaviour as toddler like: they could rhyme off a litany of immature, discourteous, disruptive behaviours that filled the bill. A few years later, I began to notice the toddler-like behaviour of all kinds of adults I was dealing with: parents, administrators, fellow teachers. I then read a Globe and Mail article: “Who Are the Most Dangerous Humans on the Planet?” I was amused—and felt vindicated—when the article said that toddlers were the most dangerous because they are unreasonable, have no/few boundaries, live only in the moment, have no conscience, and are prone to violence: watch out if toddlers could handle Uzis!

The article opined that the reason we haven’t been destroyed by toddlers is their small size. That was then. This is now. We have fully grown toddlers—the "progressive" mob: Tea Party types DO NOT act this way. And we’re beginning to see just how violent and destructive the mob can be, aren't we? Be scared. (And read "Demonic"!)

'Nice to see so many unfamiliar names at this thread. Please come back!

Posted by: lookout at July 11, 2011 9:15 AM

Mark Matis, I think you’re right: these days our police forces are also full of “adult toddlers”, with all the deficits of such people. The adults definitely seem to be few and far between and the inmates are running the asylum: very scary . . .

Posted by: lookout at July 11, 2011 9:19 AM

Nagata's tedious and interminable valedictory could have been summed up in three words: "Goodbye Cruel World".

Posted by: JJM at July 11, 2011 9:37 AM

What a weiner.

Posted by: petra at July 11, 2011 9:49 AM

@ matis

Law enforcement is n't the problem, it's law makers...as for 'bama and his ilk, his chiel law enforcer, holder, has already refused to prosecute criminals and is now seen to be arming criminals so he can disarm non-criminals...don't blame the officer on the street, blame the ones who hold the power to hire and fire him or her...just like the rest of you, an officer has to eat and to do that, they have to keep their job, even if they don't like what it's turned into.

Posted by: Bemused at July 11, 2011 10:45 AM

Sounds like a suicide manifesto...the sooner the better.

Posted by: atlas is shrugging at July 11, 2011 11:23 AM

Bemused, law enforcement is definitely a HUGE problem. Think of Caledonia, Tamils taking over main streets and a highway in downtown Toronto, the G20, and the Vancouver riots, etc.: the police were ORDERED to stand down and watch the mayhem. How’s that law enforcement working for ya?

Our political and judicial systems are a mess, as you point out. But that’s ANOTHER problem.

No enforcement/consequences for anti-social to seriously dangerous behaviour starts early: teachers are not allowed to enforce behaviour codes. Even a stern talking to is frowned upon: if the little darling is offended by the teacher’s remarks, and tattles, administration deals with the “offending” teacher, not the kid and the kid’s offence.

The Charter—a serious cause of all of this lack of backbone—has, just as the Liberals planned it, “transferred power from the powerful to the less powerful”. So, with the “adults” forced out of commission—e.g., law enforcement disallowed—be ready for the “less powerful” to continue to wreak havoc.

Posted by: lookout at July 11, 2011 11:26 AM

P.S. Bemused, you're right about it not being the officers' fault for standing down: they, like teachers, are under orders. However, even if it's not the individual officer's fault, "law enforcement" in this country, under the jackboot of the Charter, is a very big problem.

Posted by: lookout at July 11, 2011 11:50 AM

Ah yes lookout. Demonic is an excellent book. Anne Coulter's chapters on the French Revolution is especially enlightening/reinforcing of what the mob can do. I wonder if Kai is aware of Robespierre and his deeds?

And toddlers being the most violent people on earth. I have kept that newspaper article and refer to it often. The Bronze Age was the age of toddlers, IMHO.

Posted by: Valencia at July 11, 2011 12:03 PM

Everyone knocks the Bronze Age. Proselytizing atheists are always on about "Bronze Age religions". It don't get no respect. It don't get no regard. But why? Lots of awesome stuff from the heroic age of Greece (think Troy) to plenty of neato empires happened between roughly 3,000 - roughly 1,000 BC. I mean, people are always violent jerks. And anyway, bronze is a wonderful metal. I wonder who first thought: "Let's mix 10% tin in this and see what happens?"

(Let's keep this thread about pointless Kai Whatsit going 'till we hit 200!)

Posted by: Black Mamba at July 11, 2011 12:49 PM

The transformation took four years....favill at July 10, 2011 3:42 PM

So much to learn and this is one place to do it.
Wish I had started earlier, but...better late than never.

Posted by: flaunagirl at July 11, 2011 12:51 PM

Another hilarious example of how deeply ingrained left-wing ideology is in the news media. The guy actually quit because TV news -- and the world, for that matter -- is not liberal enough to suit his idealism. So what is Mr. Nagata going to do after he moves back in with the folks and spends a few months doing some meditation? Go work in green energy? I think not. My guess is he will be back in some form of infotainment at a far-left-wing venue, using his boring resignation screed as a badge of honor.

Posted by: JP at July 11, 2011 2:39 PM

Lesson learned from Kai Nagata's gut spilling and the Senate page's 'look-at-me' moment: public self-promotion brings in job offers, in today's world.

"I've had more job offers, and marriage proposals, and emails from politicians, and more people getting in touch with me to suggest projects in the last two days than over the course of my career," Nagata told the CBC on Monday.

LOL at "over the course of my career"...!

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/07/11/kai-blog-viral.html

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 11, 2011 4:10 PM

Never heard of him. He seems very self-important.

Posted by: FoxtrotBravo at July 11, 2011 4:23 PM

@ lookout:

Ref:

Bemused, law enforcement is definitely a HUGE problem. Think of Caledonia, Tamils taking over main streets and a highway in downtown Toronto, the G20, and the Vancouver riots, etc.: the police were ORDERED to stand down and watch the mayhem. How’s that law enforcement working for ya?

You hit the nail on the head and didn't even see it...as you yourself said, they were ORDERED to stand down...the officers wanted to do their job and were told NOT to...in each case by a moonbat governemt, Ontario, Toronto, Caledonia and Vancouver..all moonbat reserves with the unfortunate ability and authority to tell law enforcement personnel to ignore the law....so yes, 'that law enforcement' is working for me quite well, thank you very much, it's the idiots with the authority to override the law that is failing horribly...moonbats should be illegal along with truedough's post-it note.

Posted by: Bemused at July 11, 2011 6:01 PM

Bemused, at 11:50 a.m., here, I acknowledged, to you, that individual police officers aren’t to blame for standing down. But I don’t see how this dangerous LACK of “law enforcement” is working. IMO, it’s not working at all: we agree that it's the "higher ups" who are sabotaging the system, so how does that change the outcome?

E.g., In response to a question of mine, you say, ". . . so yes, 'that law enforcement' is working for me quite well". I'd be interested to know how.

Posted by: lookout at July 11, 2011 6:16 PM

Kai Nagata, a true representative of the self-esteem generation.

Posted by: JR at July 11, 2011 7:31 PM

Well, when I was 24, I was every bit as narcissistic as this guy. If there'd been an internet then, I might have made almost as much of an ass of myself in public. So I have to feel some sympathy.

But, I had an education and an understanding of the world. I had already held jobs that were just a bit more important and responsible than reporting in English on politics in a province that doesn't speak English, and I was about to go on to altogether more serious jobs. I needed to grow up almost as badly as this guy does, but I was on the road to do it. He's on the road up his own ass.

The only thing stopping this guy from being a man is his conviction that he's already doing it. Will something smarten him up? Will it be anything less than catastrophic? I can only hope so. I can only wish him well.

Posted by: ebt at July 11, 2011 9:37 PM

Black Mamba
Oh I think the Bronze Age is fabulous too. Lots to learn and to realize human nature really hasn't changed that much in 5000 years.

Wonder how someone like Kai would have fared in the Bronze Age?

Posted by: Valencia at July 11, 2011 11:33 PM

I thought that was the funniest satire I have read in ages.

What? That was supposed to be serious? You jest!

If that is what passes for serious thought, or even self reflection in Gen Y then we are in for a very difficult time ahead as they move into positions of responsibility.

Posted by: Thucydides at July 11, 2011 11:48 PM

Bemused, hard to believe that hight schools have gotten that politicized. Why would an English mark be important to get into a university science program? I'd think that science and math marks would be the ones looked at. I was fortunate when I went to high school in Calgary that 100% of our final mark was based on provincial exams. The teachers used to complain about this and, in a number of my non-science classes, I was told by the teachers that if they had their way I'd fail. As it was I pulled off an 80+% on the provincial exams in those subjects not having really been to the classes as I either wrote programs or designed circuits while sitting in the classes.

If kids aren't learning science or math in high schools, WTF are they doing there for all of that time? The only classes that I attended in high school were my physics, math and chemistry courses and PhysEd as I was on the track team back then. The Grade 12 Alberta science and math courses were at the same level as first year university courses at Ottawa U in the late 1960's and hopefully they're still at that level.

Maybe the private schools still have an emphasis on the significant subjects but I very much doubt whether any provincial government is going to try to restart the public system by firing all the teachers first and then rebuilding it from the ground up.

Posted by: loki at July 12, 2011 12:29 AM

One thing for sure, he's definitely the product of a public school system.

Posted by: coue at July 12, 2011 12:32 AM

What a pompous narcissist! He evokes a 21 year old Barack Obama. I only got 1/3 the way through this. It's hilarious how he mischaracterizes climate discourse skeptics as dogmatists resisting a clear scientific truth arrived at by 'consensus.' Leftism is the dogma of our day, the Star Chamber, the Office of the Holy Inquisition. Climate discourse is received wisdom not to be challenged under pain of excommunication. This 'journalist', alas, is typical of his profession, leftists by trade who exhibit zero common sense, zero life experience, zero capacity for considering rival viewpoints, and self-righteous in the extreme. The Left has become so tiresome.

Posted by: Stephen Carter at July 12, 2011 6:30 AM

At July 11, 11:48, PM Thucydides writes, “If that is what passes for serious thought, or even self reflection in Gen Y then we are in for a very difficult time ahead as they move into positions of responsibility.”

In my “adults as toddlers” post on this thread, I pointed out that we’re already there—big time. I was talking mainly about my long career in public education, but it’s happening everywhere. Kids are fed their “rights”, and are coddled and cotton battened all the way: responsibility is sidelined, which happens when consequences are frowned upon, e.g., teachers are not allowed to discipline in any significant way.

Then there are the jurisdictions where docking marks for late assignments or assigning homework on weekends has been disallowed. (I’m not kidding: it’s folks like Kai who come up with such lunacies.) Too many kids just breeze through school, expecting that they can do it “their way”: if someone, including a teacher, objects, it’s “Outa my way”! The more unpleasant the kid, the more likely he/she is to run the show—with the complicit support of the administrators, many of whom are Kai clones. Self-reflection and self-discipline are not in their make up. So, yes, “we are in for a very difficult time ahead as the[se narcissists] move into positions of responsibility [sic].” (Note that Obama's a narcissist: see how that's working out!)

Be scared.

Posted by: lookout at July 12, 2011 8:48 AM

Some of us grow up sooner, some later, and some never.

Posted by: MarkD at July 12, 2011 2:17 PM

lookout, the tech revolution, especially the internet, has placed the kids in power positions, before they've had the time to learn what life is all about through EXPERIENCE. They tend to dismiss history as not relevant. An example is Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook) who's negotiated a deal with Obama to use Facebook for cyber town hall meetings during the 2012 election campaign. Zuckerberg is now a global powerbroker. (Freaky thought, there.)

Posted by: chutzpahticular at July 12, 2011 2:51 PM

chutzpahticular, I agree about these kids' lack of experience: very bad news.

Narcissistic kids, Mark Zuckerberg and Obama, together: to quote Kate, "What could possibly go wrong?"

Posted by: lookout at July 14, 2011 8:18 AM
Site
Meter