Sorry, busy looking for the number to Child Protection Servioes

Those parents could WORK for Child Protection Services.

The kid's a boy, and the parents are psychos.

Erik
The # is 911.

A long time back, 60's, I met a guy at the Detroit recruiting centre...from Canada..his wingnut parents had inflicted a weird name on him and they were...like far out man...far out.(sarc\)
He must have been a grave disappointment to them....

"Stocker teaches at City View Alternative, a tiny school west of Dufferin Grove Park, with four teachers and about 60 Grade 7 and 8 students whose lessons are framed by social-justice issues around class, race and gender."

In other words, a nice little "progressive" factory.

Nutty hippies. Simple explanation. Hippies, the crap of society. Poor kids.

Breeding is easy.

Raising children is much more difficult.

We need to institute compulsory Parent Licensing to prevent fools like this from breeding.

This is sad because these kids have no chance. They will always be screwed up. It isn't normal to be 'genderless'.

Also, why do all their kids have stripper names?

Just a couple of stupid hippies. Harmless to everyone but themselves.

And who the heck names their kid 'storm' anyway? It's like naming your kid 'cloud' or 'rain' or 'fart'......

Be careful what you wish for Fred.
Licensing parents would be pure insanity. Who do you think would be the ones deciding whom and who doesn't get a license? My guess that it would be someone just like the progs mentioned in this article.

Besides, these people can raise their kids anyway they want. They can also delude themselves all they want about raising a genderless kid, but they don't get to make that choice.

It’s all just another example of human arrogance

This is a non-story thats everywhere, the kid is only five months old, lets see if they are still doing it in six months.It's just big plans and empty talk at this point,big suprise coming from a couple of lefties.

Only a lefty could turn the birth of a child into some heartless,moralizing,political thing.

Agreed Bob, these jokers just want attention.

Hell in a handbasket.

I agree with Black Mamba. The boy will still turn out to be a boy. Not sure about the co-parent that fathered the child though.

Maybe Tommy Douglas was right after all. As I recall, he suggested that mental defectives be sterilized. This pair would seem to qualify.

They may be stupid hippies, but they are churning out clones for Karl Marx in their ridiculous little school.

It seems society is becoming more weird everyday.

Blame Crash has it right @ 12:14.

"Reality" no thanks, we're liberals.

“What we noticed is that parents make so many choices for their children. It’s obnoxious,” says Stocker."

Yet, they presumed to give their children names. And Storm? What if the child grows up gentle in nature?

My wife and I argued an hour ago about being responsible and teaching our 2 year old daughter how to behave. We discussed limits and at what point to intervene if we felt her (daughters) conduct was pushing to far beyond what we deemed to be acceptable. My position was 'if we don't teach her who will?'. I now have my answer.

We want a well integrated child who is as accepting of others as they of her. By accepting we mean just that... accepting. The parents are as narrow minded as helicopter parents but are doing it with a liberal slant, thus insinuating they aren't narrow minded at all. Are they not being as unaccepting to other philosophies as others to them?

Whether they are smart enough to realize it or not, they are imposing their OWN choices on their kids. As radical as their choices are, it doesn't negate that they are the parents ones, not the childs. I notice that the parents don't seem to allow the children the option of eating whatever foods they eat, as a refutation (is that a word?) of society's view of nutrition.

Wouldn't it be funny if each time one of the kids went to the store, the clerk stiffed them on the change because none of the unschooled wanted to learn math!

The parents are part of the socialist engineering elitists - those who consider that reality is 'all in the mind'. Therefore, they consider that 'their mind' can conquer reality. It's really a controlling and domineering ideology. It rejects having a relation with biological reality; instead, it seeks to control it.

So, to them, gender is not biological but a choice; you can dominate your material body, its hormones, its biological and psychological nature. By your mind!

I think the key factor is the agenda-of-control. Fascinating because these ideologists believe that they are rejecting control! heh.

It is also extremely unjust (I thought they were all about social justice whatever that means)..to fling all decisions back onto the child. So, they asked the child if he wanted to go to school. Of course he refused. He already knows that he is 'different' (wearing braids) and uncertain how to relate to other children.

They aren't providing a secure environment for the children to learn to interact with others. Instead, they are burdening the children asking them to make adult-level choices.

And their responses to criticism is the usual sophistry of words, words, words.

Bob @12:14 "lets see if they are still doing it in six months"... Jazz is 5 and Kio is 2... years. The parents have already chosen their kid's direction... they're just excusing themselves of the responsibility.

I've known people who named their dog Storm.
These parents are very irresponsible.
They may be crazy.

And the Toronto Star puts the story of these twerps (and the hapless child's face) on the cover of a section, natch.
The circle around the drain increases speed...

Progressive parents? Finding new reasons for kids to resent you. I smell an eventual lawsuit. Storm vs. um ... Norm.

To me this is a total non-story. Th parents are idiots, true, but there's simply no way that kid is staying "genderless" for long. The minute "Storm" starts interacting normally with other kids, he/she will have to spill the beans or become a social outcast. And no kid of any age chooses the latter.

Does anyone else get the impression that this couples 'marriage' is nothing but one of convenience in order to perform a social experiment with children to teach straights a lesson?

As an aside, a question for the gals out there...

Q. WOULD YOU MARRY A MAN LIKE Mr. Stocker?

See what living in Toronto does?

From the article:

"Last year, they spent two weeks in Cuba, living with local families and learning about the revolution."

I wonder if they bothered to learn about about the prisons and labour camps their romantic communist police-state sends homosexuals to?

After all, their sons should know the kind of progressive future they have to look forward to.

Oh, boy!

I mean oh, girl!

No wait. I mean.....

Can you imagine these parents 100 years ago? They'd be taken out behind the barn.

I wonder if during their time in Cuba, they packed an extra set of clothes, or a swimsuit? Because if they were Cubans, they wouldn't have that option. You get 1 pair of underware from the Government each year. Oh, and ladies get to pick which one they want for this year, tops of bottoms.

Gawd, these post-moderns just get more and more pukable, don't they?

Comment I read underneath the article:

"This is a perfect example of why you should have to have a license to have children".

Trouble is, we'd have to have 5000 new civil servants to issue the permits & 43,000 cops to police reproduction. No thank you very much....

That kind of artsy fartsy socialist's experiment is dangerous to the child and to society, good gawd how you're treated doesn't define your sexuality or gender identity. I really hate flakes who use their kids as social experiments.

"“If you really want to get to know someone, you don’t ask what’s between their legs,” says Stocker."

I'd guess it depends how much you really want to know them. I hate surprises.

My name is Sue, How do you do?

A Boy Named Sue

Anybody here read the book As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised as A Girl ? A baby boy who lost his penis in a horribly botched circumcision back in the '70s was raised as a girl on the advice of the leading gender experts of the day. But despite the best efforts of his parents and "experts" to socially condition him as a girl and subsequent hormone treatments, he still tended towards masculine behaviours and "knew" something was wrong. He eventually found out the truth and switched over to a male identity, but was never fully able to get comfortable in his skin, and eventually committed suicide.

Could be that the parents here are setting their kids up for something similar, if they get too heavy-handed...

Utter kooks.

Still, it will make it easier for my own kids to get ahead. This is the silver lining to the cloud.

Trust me it won't be long before thier little experiment falls apart. I remember in the 70's parents tried to force dolls on boys & toy trucks on girls. It did'nt work than it won't know. This whole nonesense is predicated on the Myth that where all just a clean slate which can be re-wriitten. Besides people live in communities. How long before the law of child cruelty kicks in?
Thekids will make sure they what gender they are no matter what the parents do. Even if they put them in a bubble.
JMO

These "parents" need to read a book by Ross Campbell, a psychiatrist, called How to Really Love Your Child. It's all about making mature and responsible decisions for your child because you're an adult and they're not.

He points out that rudderless children have nothing to kick up or rebel against when they get older and often feel cheated by their parents for not giving them firm guidelines while they were growing up.

It's natural for kids to kick against the boundaries their parents have set for them, and by parents' maintaining and justifying these boundaries -- for their children's safety, health, and well-being -- adolescents who are just trying things out have a standard by which to measure their experimentation and/or to which to return when they discover that some of their more reckless ways haven't worked out too well.

I feel very sorry for Storm, Kio, and Jazz. Their parents pretend they're not controlling them but, in fact, by their negligence, they're setting in motion a whole pile of unexpected consequences -- one of which may be that one of their kids or all of them could end up being conservative -- to rebel and/or to feel safe in a very loosey-goosey world their parents have created for them.

WARNING: From a distinctly Christian viewpoint, How to Really Love Your Child can help you as a parent manifest love to your young child in all situations of child-rearing ...

First published in 1977, How to Really Love Your Child has become a classic, and is now translated into nearly 20 languages, including Russian. A highlight of this updated edition is a new chapter on handling a child's anger.

When this child goes off- and he will- the parents will be asked what went wrong. Don't bother. Ask the neighbours. Their insight into the parents' social engineering experiment (read: child abuse) should give the community all the answers it needs to understand why this abnormal kid exploded into anti-social and destructive behaviour.

On the other hand, I had an appointment at Brockville General Hospital this morning. While my wife and I were sitting in the waiting room, we were joined by a young couple with their little guy, clad all in blue, who was born on Friday. Dad proudly told us his son's name was Johnathan, and we got a laugh out of wondering if the Leafs would have won a Stanley Cup by the time he was old enough for the NHL draft.

Despite the best efforts of the moonbats, there still are lots of normal people, at least in the 613 area code.

batb - I read How to Really Love your Child some 25 years ago - excellent book.

Why not teach kids to embrace their gender? It's all so confusing. Lady Gaga fans love the I was Born This Way song, yet don't seem to make the connection that means accepting the plumbing one is born with.

Personally, I think the third child is a boy and given that she had 2 other boys, it's possible she wanted a girl this time around and since the child was a girl she has decided to raise "it" genderless perhaps hoping it will choose a female persona. Who knows what her motivation is, obviously I'm speculating here. Very sad though.

Gender is strongly and inextricably linked to ones identity, according to Erickson. This child could experience a serious identity crises during the identity forming years 14 - 24. These parent are in for one helluva ride.

Brian@3:50 P.M. What's "normal" about trying to raise a Leaf fan? The child has no choice about a decision that will cause unspeakable pain for life? That might just be crueler than what these moonbats are doing, no? I guess every parent gets to wreck their children's lives in their own way, however. LOL

Black Mamba: "The kid's a boy, and the parents are psychos."

Yeah and hell yeah. But, and this is the part that sucks, the parents are also respected members of the Ruling class. They will get away with this crap for a good long time.

Right up until The Time Of Teen Rebellion. Then I bet you the little girls will start in being Barbie Princesses complete with full length dresses and gloves, take vows of chastity until marriage, just to drive mummy wild. The little boy will go full macho man on them, probably end up being a -gasp!- SOLDIER!!!

Must admit I really want to SLAP these parents though. Kids are not toys, you stupid pr1cks.

Note that I didn't suggest that the Leafs would draft him. Living on the banks of the Rideau, I figure he would make a good Senator, with skates and pads, not buisness suit, of course.

By then Prime Minister Harper will be thinking of retiring at the end of the term of his latest majority government.

And little whatitsname will be an unsucessful NDP candidate, or working in a massage parlour. Just kidding, I hope the kid survives and thrives despite his parents.

babt: "It's all about making mature and responsible decisions for your child because you're an adult and they're not."

Ma'am, must respectfully disagree. Those parents are in no way adults. An adult prepares their kid to survive in a hostile world. An adult does not frig around making some kind of social/political statement on the kid's back. A stupid spoiled brat does that.

Gender is bred in the bones and starts at birth. Pretending otherwise is just that: pretending.

"Stocker teaches at City View Alternative, a tiny school west of Dufferin Grove Park, with four teachers and about 60 Grade 7 and 8 students whose lessons are framed by social-justice issues around class, race and gender."

In other words, a nice little "progressive" factory.

Five bucks says these kids won't know any useful math, science or history. Keep 'em dumb...they're more likely to vote liberal.

He points out that rudderless children have nothing to kick up or rebel against when they get older and often feel cheated by their parents for not giving them firm guidelines while they were growing up.

Oh, there's something to rebel against: Their parents' liberal insanity. It's my fantasy that these kids become right-wingers to rebel.

But isn't this a social science experiment? And isn't that immoral? You don't get to go back and unscrew up your kid.

Their seems to be little in these monsters lives, except themselves.

Would it kill the mother to chat with her neighbor? The answer: Well, she is building a " better " society, so she doesn't have to hew to the norms of the one she lives in, blighted as it is by " social-justice issues around class, race and gender ". Actually being cordial probably seems to be a " social-justice issue " in that ego space where her conscience is supposed to be.

Would it kill the mother to chat with her neighbor?

She may hear things she doesn't like, or have someone question her "parenting" skills.

They can't be true progressives,their last name isn't hyphenated.

When he comes home at 15 and tells his parents he's pregnant, what will they do? Mission failed?

Adler discussing this now on his radio show.

If I remember correctly, the article said that the three-braided boy, who wears pink a lot, didn’t like being at school because he felt different. Duh. Poor, little kid.

This alternative school, where the father of these three unfortunate children teaches: on a PD day once, I visited its clone in my jurisdiction. I’ve never met such a group of rude, entitled, misfit students in my life. I had to keep myself from butting in when almost all of them were extremely rude to their student teacher. The “regular” teachers, like Storm’s father, turned a blind eye to the nasty and subversive behaviour of their students, who, it being gay pride day, I guess, were decked out in the most outlandish costumes and were sporting political buttons. And these people say they support “human rights”—“as long as they’re ours”, I guess. What utter hypocrites!

The majority of these “alternative” students seemed to have pink, green, or purple hair and clown clothing: some individuality. They all conformed to the “WEIRD and WE’RE BETTER THAN YOU” group of elitists: typical lefties. There were anti-capitalism, pro-Green, pro-gay, and a multitude of other progressive posters everywhere. The speaker of the day was a guest from not one, but two, “victim” groups, and the student body listened raptly as she described her trials and tribulations, completely missing the irony— that the horrible, capitalist country they have the good fortune to live in has actually anted up to support this “victim” with many social programs that she couldn’t pay for. And, guess what? The deluded mainstream citizens whom these students are being actively indoctrinated to disdain in their tiny, socialist, hot-house, elitist (though they claim to support “tolerance”) bubble is being paid for by none other than . . . those stupid, mainstream citizens!

Schools like City View are “Schools for Subversion”: that public boards fund such propaganda schools, that actually, PROUDLY indoctrinate their students with the antithesis of the public boards’ behaviour policies is an utter travesty. All the public boards tout “respect”, “tolerance”, and “diversity”. The staff and students at schools like City View openly SNEER at those who are different—like heterosexuals, capitalist taxpayers, entrepreneurs, the oil industry, etc. As I’ve said, what bloody, arrogant hypocrites. Intolerant idiots too.

I think this “alternative” family, selfishly using its children as guinea pigs in a dubious experiment of social engineering, is in for some pretty stormy weather ahead.

Phantom, you obviously misunderstood my comment.

What I was saying, is that in accountable parenting, mature and responsible parents (not these dingbats) make decisions for their child/ren because the parents are adults and the kids aren't.

As adults, the parents have the benefit of a certain amount of living, a certain amount of experience, a certain amount of trial and error in life -- and, obviously, want the best for their child/ren and what will most benefit them -- which makes it their prerogative to make difficult and life-giving (or not) decisions for their child/ren.

Later on, the kids can say, "Yeah, my parents were right and I agree with their values," or "Hell, no, my parents were wrong and I'm going to do my own thing."

Very often, when kids decide that their parents were all wrong about everything (me between 21 and 28), they eventually return to the fold (like the prodigal son) after having done everything different from their parents and having found that, in the end, father/mother knows best! ('Not because they're superior but because they've experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly, themselves, and have drawn a few sound conclusions -- which they feel honour-bound to pass onto their child/ren.)

The mother and father of Storm, Kio, and Jazz have refused to make adult decisions for their kids. They're stuck on stupid, progressive ideas of "no preconceived" (no pun intended) ideas about gender and they step aside, as parents, as adults, in not helping their children accept who they are.

In this family, all three children are males but the oldest, Jazz, seems to prefer female preoccupations, like pink tutus. I wonder how much of his fetish with pink and pigtails have to do with his parents', perhaps, subtle desire that he not grow up as "a male"?

Where's a meddling anti-home schooling public daycare fetishist Quebec judge when you need one?

The oldest child has decided - with his parents' approval - not to attend school because it would mean interacting with other kids and adults who'd ridicule and critize him for dressing like a girl.

Poor kid - already a social pariah.

When the kids grow up to hate their "parents" - I use the term loosly - with the white hot passion of a thousand wedgies and tauntings and exclusions and horrible personal identity crises, mommy and daddy (or whatever they tell their victims to call them, probably by their first names) will be genuinely angry, martyred and clueless. "We did everything right!!!"

If those kids wind up pulling a Menendez no jury will convict.

People with such mental illness are allowed to have children?!

we are a diamorphic social species. going against our nature will lead to disaster.

I mentioned propaganda schools like the one this misguided father teaches at because I believe these schools are more of a problem than this little "Rocky Horror Family Show".

Many of these alternative schools, with public funds, are indoctrinating many more than three impressionable young people to blur gender boundaries, and just about every other boundary, in the most brazen manner, so much so that the students are arrogant, anti-social puppets of the extreme left-wing, loony philosophy their teachers openly nurture. Talk about “freedom of choice”: at such schools it’s way out leftism or the highway! In my visit to the City View clone school, most of the kids were dressed like Jazz, the three-braided, pink couture boy. It was clear that to be “with it” one had to be decidedly strange in both looks and behaviour. Disrespectful, condescending behaviour towards outsiders—in direct contravention of board policy—was allowed by the staff.

For the misguided family, Children’s Aid is to be avoided if one can. (However, from what I know about Children’s Aid these days, this uber politically correct enforcer would be on the family’s side anyway.) What should happen, however, is that the school board responsible for City View should be aware of the subversive and actually quite sinister agenda of such schools. Why the ordinary taxpayer, whom the students are being indoctrinated to look down upon and blame for all and any of societies’ ills, should be forced to pay for this dangerous nonsense—field trips include the kids going to demonstrations like the G20, likely on the anarchists’ side—is a travesty.

Barb Kay has a great column about this issue in today’s National Post.

http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/a9+offspring/4835008/story.html

P.S. I can nearly always tell the gender of a baby by his/her hands. Really! From the get- go, boys’ hands are usually stockier and girls’ hands more delicate. If I could get a close look at baby Storm’s hands, I’ll bet figuring out his/her gender would be a snap. (Or I could just look at the clothing: if Storm’s dressed in frilly pink, like his/her unfortunate older brother, Storm’s probably a boy. These ridiculous parents seem to positively enjoy “gender shifting” and are active agents in not only mixing up outsiders, but their own, precious children. I don’t see a very happy ending here.)

babt said: "Phantom, you obviously misunderstood my comment."

No, I understood it and I agree with you 100%. You're right.

I was just being a wise guy. :)