Kidane is a total nut case;
she came off
like an alien from outer space.

From a comment I made this morning:

I watched Luam Kidane with growing wonder: How could someone with such ludicrous, down-the-rabbit-hole, views take herself [so] utterly seriously. ...

... I guess she thought those pink earrings gave her alot of cred: They looked like flying saucers.

Kidane is perfectly typical and actually more sane sounding than most university students I've met in Toronto.

I was lucky enough to see that segment. I roared and laughed through the whole thing. It was comic gold. It does go to show that all you need to thrive in today's academic environment is a sense of identification as a victim and the ability to parrot a certain kind of jargon.

Holy crap, that is some kind of stupid

I couldn't believe what I saw; at the time I thought they must be playing a joke on the audience. No one could be so fantastically stupid and thankless for the beneficence of the western world. It was balanced somewhat by an interview with Don Cherry, later.

So this 'nutcase' refers to North America as Turtle Island. Allow me to introduce the Green Party's election platform:

"Canadian democracy is more secure when human rights are respected – starting with the First Nations and indigenous peoples of this continent, Turtle
Island."

Elizabeth May of course now sits in Parliament.

Its too bad stupidity isn't painfull.

Maybe she's really angry at whoever landed that hard right hook on her nose.. must have been a white male capitalist. Anyway, back to Hockey Night in Turtle Island for me...

Send her back to one of the African invaded Countries her ancestors colinized. Dos she rally think people have always stayed in one place?
Most invasions where not done by white people.
You use your land or lose it. Its been that simple all through history or we would still be Hunters gathers. Which is probably this carck pots vison of Human heaven.
JMO

So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?

"Canada" supposedly belongs to everyone, yet take away the infrastructure built by generations of Canadians and all these loons aren't anymore interested than they would be moving to the Antarctic.

The same applies for all the third world freeloaders, native aboriginal complainers and granola's alike.

Apparently it all belongs to them, whitey get out! But can we take the buildings, parks, social programs, businesses et all with us? Hell no, that part of it stays, "we want the old ways but we be building no teepee villages in the middle of BF nowhere". "It's Chevy pick-up trucks, free healthcare and lots of modern bling all the way man".

The rest of the world is tripping over themselves to get to Canada/ US for what? Smoky mountain vista's and buffalo runs? The most flabbergasting thing about them, is that once they get here, they sh!t all over the country trying to change it over to the old country they just abandoned. The Aboriginals and Lefies love it, CHANGE and messing with the "white man" so all is good. Very messed up.

*of course I exclude most Asians, because they for the most part (certainly in the past) have adopted their new homes and it's societies ways. That seems to be changing more now also. At least they bloody well look after themselves by working , contributing and not complaining about it.

Have some compassion for this woman, folks. Life is hard and it's even harder when you're stupid

That womyn is crayz

This brought back a flood of University memories.

The trick is to steamroll and not apologize. Groups like this get bogged down in process and have trouble making progress.

What are the practical applications of her group?
Answer: Nothing.

Let them circle slap on the bongos while normal folks build the world.

It shows what soft-headed pseudo-academic drivel is produced by our "education" system. It exists on state subsidy simply because it could not exist without it. Time to pull the plug on this sham. The sooner these loons are forced to confront reality and grow up, the sooner they'll be able to do something worthwhile with their lives. The existing "education" sham cheats our young.

This strategy they have of redefining language and fabricating new terminology is extremely annoying.

"We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people..."

Did they march with anyone who was employed? Or even employable?

ah.. I see from her bio that she's studying "Transformative Education". It's not working, she should get her money back.

I like turtle soup...clarified turtle soup.

A whole new bowl of crazy.

Turtle Island, by the way, is an Iroquois term. Why give preference to only the Iroquois? Don't the Inuit matter?

This girl is a robot, pure and simple. This is why a decent discussion about immigration cannot be had between leftists and the people with frontal lobes.

I could only watch about 2 minutes of this. HTF does someone become this stupid? Where does this idiotic mindset come from? My ancestors expanded into territories where they killed off the indigenous inhabitants and took over the land for themselves. They didn't lose any sleep over it. The first settlers in N. America came here, claimed the land for themselves and they won the various wars involved in settling land ownership issues. Unlike the Spanish, the British colonials didn't kill off all the Indians and they're far better off now than they were 200 years ago. I've yet to have a Native Indian tell me they want to give up their pickup truck and rifle and go hunting on foot with a primitive bow and arrow.

I think the interviewed moron should leave "turtle island" out of respect for the indigenous people and go to the eastern part of Congo to preach her message of open borders and "no one is illegal". Hell, I'd even support the Canadian government paying for a first class one way ticket for her to get to Congo.

She'd likely make Cabinet under a Layton administration

Holy crap, that is some kind of stupid
~The Greek

Pharmaceutical grade stupid.

"Its too bad stupidity isn't painful."
~ryan

If they get their way it will be painful, for all of us.
If they get their way I vote we take our pain out on people like her.
Road flares and piano wire come to mind as a thoughtful form of pain release.

They want to bring down the civilized order?
Chaos is a double edged sword, and I still have a strong sword arm.

"So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?"
~Sarnia Jim

Perfect comment, too bad the interviewer didn't ask that one.
I'll bet she would have made a truly hilarious response!
Leftie logic is so funny.

1:28 I was done.
Any more and I'd vomit, unfortunately not on the young lady.

Takes all kinds, I know, but REALLY?

1:28 I was done.
Any more and I'd vomit, unfortunately not on the young lady.

Takes all kinds, I know, but REALLY?

Hey, she has a point. We all know that the original Turtle Islanders welcomed newcomers with open arms and that turned out so well for them, didn't it. Why even today, we all live in such harmony with one another and we fully respect each other's sacred burial grounds and so on.

A couple times I thought her eyes were going to roll entirely backwards and we'd get a glimpse of the squirrel in there.

You want dignity and respect. Fine, you got it, just no free money, no free homes and no free medical. I respect you too much to demean you by giving you anything. I will respect you by letting you earn everything you need to get by.

The premise of the organization is based on an idiotic fallacy, so their choice for a spokesperson was perfect.

She's a community organizer. Where have I seen that term before???

Its like watching a parent argue with a tiny child....

Ryan: first post

It is, but not for the stupid.

Make that Ryan @ 10:09

@chrisinmb: "This strategy they have of redefining language and fabricating new terminology is extremely annoying."

Well... I'd like to engage you in a conversation here Chris, but you make it difficult with your distorted definitions of "redefinition", "language", "terminology" and "annoying", as they are based on a false dichotomy of systematic hegemonic oppression.

ChrisinMB: Agreed. The deliberate obfuscation of language is a standard leftist tactic. It's really a "knock over the chess board" approach. Things like, "Capitalism is murder" etc are simply ways of making any coherent, meaningful discussion impossible thereby allowing them to preserve the illusion in their own minds of having "won" the argument. It's also the argumentative equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears, closing their eyes and saying, "la, la, la, I can't hear you." It's only frustrating if one makes the false assumption that the perpetrator of this nonsense actually wants a rational discussion. When the lefties try this rubbish on me, I call them on it and label the tactics for exactly what they are -- intellectual laziness.

The irony is that no-one is forcing her to live based upon the profit motive. Hence the problem.

I finally watched the whole thing.
She is ludicrous.

I used to point out, disparagingly, to my wife that so many women wore earrings that looked like fishing lures, but this is the first woman that I have ever seen who has earrings that look like they were beer mats filched from a Disco.

The terminology thing?
We all have a right to free speech.
She doesn't have a right to redefine the definitions of words to limit the questions of someone who is interviewing her so that she can feel comfortable with a society she rejects who share the interviewers word definitions without drawing ridicule.
Either she learns to make her point within the widely agreed upon definition of the terminology or there is no conversation.

I wouldn't worry about her and her ilk making many converts, what I would worry about is that her and her ilk will become frustrated with their lack of progress(with their cultish terminology) and take radical actions to advance the ideas behind that radical terminology.
(if I were the Director of CSIS I'd find out who defines their terms and get real close)

eg. Weather Underground, Baader-Meinhoff, Red Brigades, Simbanese Liberation Army

A quick search revealed that in 2008 Luam Kidane was part of a Radical Feminist Soccer League. Apparently their exclusionary founding principles saw the league fold in 2009. :-(

I'm not making this up, folks!

"Every village needs an idiot. Turtle Island has clearly found its national champion in idiocracy!"

The womyn [sic] of colour, Luam Kidane, shares her brilliant eloquence for all you simple-minded capitalist heathens! LOL

You laugh at the radical feminist soccer league, but take a look at olympic women's hockey for a minute. We're the only country that can put together a credible team, for cultural reasons, and it shows in the scores and in abysmal attendance. So our answer isn't to accept that fans simply aren't interested in watching high-school level sport and move on, but instead we lobby internationally to shoehorn this one-sided debacle that makes a mockery of faster, higher, stronger.

Unless the teams are wearing bikinis, they will need seatbelts to sell out women's hockey in Sochi.

Dearest 'root',

You win the Gold Medal for ... ENTIRELY missing the point!!!

root, if this Luam Kidane gets her way there won't be any Olympics because there won't be any nations because there won't be any nationalities.

That said, the best thing about the Canadian Womens Olympic Hockey Team was that they smoked cigars on the ice after their gold Medal performance.(did anyone notice how pale they looked? not very ethnically diverse...)

root=max=typo. Maybe I missed the point.. it certainly wouldn't be the first time. I'm saying that mocking some bush league soccer team is moot since everyone is forced to endure radical feminist global olympics.

I started to watch it and had to stop because I began to boil, I have had too many discussions with these people that are more interested in semantics than facts or ideas. I eventually went back and watched the rest and swore at the computer screen repeatedly. Then I remembered when you try to argue with a person who suffers from the ID ten T syndrome you lower your self to the same affliction (idiot).

Quote: "Close to one year ago, No One is Illegal joined with thousands on the streets of Toronto and dared to dream of a world without borders and fences. We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people, people of colour, queer and trans people, feminists, disabled people, anarchists, anti-poverty activists, rank and file labour activists, anti-capitalists, environmental justice activists, and community organizers to confront the G20 leaders in Toronto" (cross-copied from a post by "lookout" in yesterday's RTs).

This is standard political correctness agenda stuff -- recruiting all these "victim" groups as a substitute working class for the purpose of attempting to overthrow capitalism. It won't necessarily work, because even the supposely disadvantaged have their pride and generally prefer not to allow themselves to be used as cannon fodder by deranged Marxist thugs.

I'm not particularly concerned about the gays, immigrants, indigenous, "people of colour", etc., who are big boys and girls and quite capable of looking after themselves.

The frigging problem is the parasitical anti-poverty activists, labour activists, anti-capitalists and related riff-raff. They're the ones with no productive purpose in life who therefore set out to make life miserable for the rest of us. They're the ones who need to be informed once and for all that laissez-faire capitalism is founded on the principles of justice while their own system is the epitome of evil -- as both the theory and the history prove.

This is all further evidence as to why governments should cut off all funding for all activist groups immediately.

"So if no one is illegal then how can Turtle Island be occupied?"

BINGO! Another leftist contradiction exposed!

Excellent, salient expose, Knight 99 @10:29.

You have said what has needed to be said for a very long time in this nation. The whiners don't want the land, they all want the money and the infrastructure built by our very courageous, very determined ancestors. Our ancestors built for the good of the country that their kin would live in; not for the likes of this whining sniveler. Most of the native north American Indian people liked the improved live styles that our ancestors shared with them.

This gal does not strike me as the type of person who would build a sod shack on 40 acres, out in the middle of nowhere, live in it and do without until the first crop she planted matured and was sold. Not much 'pioneer' in her genes if I know anything about character.

She honestly seemed to believe that her clueless bafflegab was winning the debate. I strongly suspect that when mommy and daddy stop paying the bills, reality will not be kind.

I watched that interview and thought it was like shooting fish in a barrel for Sun TV. It reminded me of the CBC when they invite some inarticulate mouth-breather on to represent the conservative viewpoint and then claim to have achieved a "balance" of views.

With this nutbar doing rebuttal to the findings of the Fraser report on immigration, Brian Lilley didn't even have to break a sweat. I would much rather have watched Lilley use the Fraser report to confront one of the immigration industry parasites who are always praising the system that lines their pockets.

And the Turtle Island concept is part of the aboriginal creation myth, the kind of religious idea that the progressives mock when it's used as part of the Christian religion. IN other words, they're attempting to enforce a theocracy.

Just... wow. It's been a long time since I've heard or read such drivel.

Canada is an occupying country and an illegitimate entity??? The state has nothing to do with the provision of services??? Canada is a white supremacist nation with an exploitative policy infrastructure???

Incredible.

I'll agree to open borders when Kidane's group agrees with no gun regulation and no social assistance programs.

Which, incidentally, is the central flaw at the core of Kidane's group: They have complete and utter contempt for the wealth of the working people of all nations. Their concept of human respect is one-way only; from the citizen to the immigrant, always.

Lilley's question about whether or not Kidane avails of services was pure gold.

Another example of a leftie with too much education and no common sense.

"We marched with Indigenous people, migrants, poor people, people of colour, queer and trans people, feminists, disabled people, anarchists..."

I for one would LOVE to see these people living under anarchy. If nation states are illegal, then anarchy's the obvious alternative, yet these freeloaders can't exist for five minutes without their precious state benefits paid for by others.

There must be something in the Prime Directive that warned us about making contact with whatever species that excuse for a sentient being came from.

She sounds like a graduate of the marxist's school of communism, she reminds me of someone brainwashed from birth. Her progressive speakeazze was gagging, she didn't deviate from her marxist script atall.

La la la la la la. Smurfette with large earings waiting for Gargamel to implement his social policies.

I have never before seen anyone so stupid on television .

Under that gob of hair there's a massive mess of misfiring neurons. What came out of her mouth is downright nauseating.

Rose nails it @ 9:56. This interview was a perfect example of anarcho-communist talk.

Earth is an occupied planet ... What's her point?

Gads, somewhere someone popped the cork!

I think we should petition the gov't to transport her to Africa or the ME where womyn [sic] of colour really need her.....where all her really good work could be accomplished. Good idea Loki.

Weapons grade stupid.

Frankly I'm shocked that a young girl this insulated can be brain washed with toxic ideologies which have the effect of making their indoctrinate appear brain damaged. These fringe political cliques should be treated as death cults and the people they brain wash should be institutionalized until they are deprogrammed.

She proclaims this country is illegitimate and on occupied land; perhaps our trusty immigration folks can show her that there is an exit door for unwanted American community organizers. Maybe she can then grasp the concept of sovereignty.

"She proclaims this country is illegitimate and on occupied land...."

I suppose she is leaving then.

I'm surprised Lilley went so easy on her... he could have totally, completely skewered her. (worse than he did)

Although I guess she didn't need any help in making herself look like an idiot, it would have been nice to see Lilley really give it to her.

I'm surprised that so many people accept the "Turtle Island" story. If you ask for proof then you're told that it was verbal tradition. Show me the first time the expression, used in this way, was recorded in a book. I'd say not before the 1960s.

Wow, just wow.....

Brian Lilley is not the guy who should be interviewing this nut ball. Can we import Megyn Kelly for the next interview.

Ah, but only white people from Europe who have been here for at least a generation are illegal, guys. We are the nasty white-supremacist despoilers and disposessors, MWUHAHAHAAA! Kneel, subjects, beneath my glossy jackboot!

Where I live, there are thousands of lobotomized shitferbrains like Kidane. Thousands. It's the world upside down. And Oz, lest we forget, there has already been one bombing campaign out of this city, which directly affected my family. My sod-hut cottonwood-log-felling and house-building pioneer family that has never harmed anyone.

Oh yeah - Kidane and her ilk are the enemy all right - thank goodness they like publicity so much.

Michael H Anderson: "Where I live, there are thousands of lobotomized shitferbrains like Kidane."

Where do you live?

At the University of Toronto (and I suspect other universities), this isn't even extreme. This is the common agenda pursued by most of our student unions, and this is the sort of rhetoric that's shoved down our throat in humanities and social science classes. Try writing a sociology or history paper that disagrees with this woman and you may as well just write "D-" all over it before handing it in to save the TA/Prof the trouble of doing it themselves.

Where is 'Anarchist Town'? After all these years of their stupid bullshit one would think they created one? Annoying government paid idiots.

Not every university student is a useful idiot stooge. I can understand that a lot of my classmates are gullible and easily manipulated, but please don't paint us all with that brush.

SUN NEWS READS SDA!

Last night, Brian Lilley gave an on-air hat tip to Small Dead Animals during his show, Byline. He mentioned that he'd received a gigantic amount of feedback to this No One Is Illegal story, and that, thanks to Small Dead Animals [h/t batb two days ago] he’d learned that Kidane is American.

(I think Lilley’s show is excellent and it’s fast becoming one of our favourites—but I think his researchers need to be more on the ball. E.g., How could they have missed that Kidane isn’t even Canadian? This info is easily found on the internet. Likewise, re the Insite story: its own web site admits that, despite nursing supervision, there are 200 OVERDOSES a year. Huh? I also think that the fact that the addicts supply their own, illegal “medication” should have been really emphasized. It was mentioned only in passing and the implications could easily have been overlooked: many, if not most, of the ILLEGAL substances taken into Insite have been acquired by THEFT. All it takes is one good anecdote—like Jack Layton mentioning Iggy’s 70% absence rate—to severely wound, if not obliterate one’s opponent! Thorough research provides the ammunition.)

lookout - as someone who hangs around SDA a lot I do find that flattering (the idea that someone who knows someone who knows Mark Steyn might have read one of my comments sends my heart a-flutter), but the fact is that a very simple Google search reveals the fact that Lou-Anne (she'll always be Lou-Anne to me) is a yank. So you're right, that's slightly weird.

Anyway, I have to get Sun. If I could get Sun and the Turner Classic Movie Network I might start watching TV again.

Yes, despite not being perfect (!), SUN’s a breath of fresh air: they cover topics straight up—they call it “straight talk”—and they don’t give the Conservatives an easy time. Ezra was really tough—and rightly so—with “I’m James Moore and You’re Not”. I guarantee SUN will be worth your while. We haven’t watched TV news, except for FOX, for years: the “all left, all the time” news is very bad for one’s blood pressure.

Since I posted in this thread the other day, I actually watched the entire interview with Luam Kidane.

Her most obvious contradiction -- that if you believe no one is illegal then you can't argue at the same time that "Turtle Island" is "occupied" -- was pointed out by Sarnia Jim on May 18 @ 10:18 p.m.

The other thing that struck me was that, in response to any question from Brian Lilley, Kidane would always answer that she wanted him to define or clarify his terms. However, she herself would throw around the usual left-wing nonsense like "dignity", "exploitation", and even "race" without any clarification at all.

It is a standard leftist tactic to use vague and undefinable terms like "dignity" when pushing their irrational agenda.

And as always, opposition to capitalism is biting the hand that feeds.

The Marxists' goal (to use a religious reference) is to rule in Hell rather than work productively and be happy in Heaven.