They had better not give him the lavish MPs pension .... he doesn't qualify and they had better not bend the rules. He needs to go back to his job at Harvard, home of that other suspect character, Barack Obama.

We really need to ban university professors from politics they are so stupid.

Consistent, eh?

Apparently he is just shy of the 6 years required to get a full MP pension, Abe.

Ignatieff sounds a little bitter. He should take a good look in the mirror and there see the person who is at fault for this historical Liberal thrashing.

Michael, speaking for the average Canadian blue collar worker," we just don't like you or trust you", period.

Your true feelings were never in doubt,you are an aristocrat and we are but peasants. Condescension flowed from you like maple syrup from a Spring maple.

Go back to your academic world and lick your wounds, you were not worthy of us.

"I will serve as long as the party wants to ask me to serve and not a day longer..."

Looks like he got a couple phone calls last night, eh? Bwaha!

What do you say to a metrosexual intellectual, who after a 30 year absense thinks he can return to Canada to reign over the Tim Horton's and small town hockey arena crowd he holds in such disdain?

To the LPC and their apologists in the MSM, welcome to your LONG nuclear winter. You've earned it.

@RosieBarton
The general consensus is that a majority govt means more policy stories. Cool. That's good for everyone.

Ha ha ha ha whatever helps you get through the day.

He's just announced that he is going back to teaching in Canada this time. Should some openings with all day kindergarten coming in.

But.... what's going to happen to the Puffins now??

The reason why those attack adds were so sharp was because they were factually accurate.

Does this represent the final nail in the coffin for Trudeaumania in Canada?

I sure hope so.

You really can't blame Iggy for resigning - after all, he did say he would stay as long as the party wanted him to stay and not a day longer... it just so happened that the Party told him last night to take a hike.

This speaks more to the Liberals making it true than Iggy.

You called it Kate.
However that was rather fast wasn't it?

Duceppe is leaving politics as well. Heh, glad to see them OUT of politics, altogether.

Congrats Canada.

Todays is another good day.

Iggy was a blessing for us - a doofus who called elections the moment LPC needed them least. Too bad to see him leaving.

Oh how I love it. The Night of the Sharp Knives is just beginning.

Shame about Iggy losing his seat, same with Dr. Dhallhahaha, Guergis, Doucette,and Dryden .

A little known fact is that our favorite Anti Racist Communitist candidate in Calgary got 250+ votes - almost as many as a certain Green Party candidate from the past and double that of a noted Stormfront admirer. I thought that these folks only dared run within the walls of theformer Toronto Party?

Ah well Goodale from Regina and Dewar from Ottawa plus Ms. May should be able to help mold a coalition with Jack the nimble.

Calgary is getting mighty metrosexual.

I thought Bob Rae put the nail in Iggy's coffin when interviewed by CBC after the Iggy speech. Although he talk in round about terms, there was no doubt he intended to show Iggy the door asap.

Oh he couldnt go anywhere else but Canada. It would only prove the cons point.

He is at the end of his career anyway. He is 64?? WHile he can lecture and pick up guest positions nobody will take him on as a permanent professor, it makes no economic sense.

As for the lack of MP pension.....he is fine personally, do not bend the rules. And I hope he doesnt ask for the rules to be bent. Because there are more than a few Bloc MP's that will be in the same boat.

I expect an articulate but angry screed from Iggy just before the Christmas book buying season. And given his past history it will skewer as friends as supposed enemies.

First Iggy says that Canadians don't like sore losers, then proceeds to be precisely that with his comments about Harper. This guys lips keep moving but he doesn't seem to exhibit much control over what comes out of his mouth.

It is with some degree of satisfaction I watch this elitist UN globalist slink back into some lower 48 globalist brain trust vacuum to lick the wounds to his gargantuan ego. Treating one of the mob party's snobby leaders like a 'whupped dawg' gives some satisfaction for the decades of corruption,and statist autocrcy they burdened this nation with.

RIP count Iggula, your klepto party is on death watch as you leave - life is sweet!

He couldn't even time his political demise so that he could get his lavish pension. It was entirely in his hands and he was too stupid to even get that right. And they said that Bush was not smart!

Loser, meet sore loser.

He noted that the “only thing Canadians like less than a loser is a sore loser”...

And he called it an “absolutely unscrupulous campaign of personal attack.”

@TJ - that makes two of us. I remember that smarmy pinko hippie-wannabe only too well.

Someone needs to update and investigate the http://hashtagfail.tumblr.com/ site. I think a lot of the people on that site won last night.

Thinking back now to that photo of Ignatieff brandising the maul at Home Depot I never imagined at the time that he was taking it to the Liberal Party.
33 seat historic low, wowser.

Even with the vote subsidy the LPC's financial fortunes are such that they will never recover.
Without the subsidies they're doomed.

Maybe it's the majority but I'm feeling mellow and generous this morning so a kind word for Ig.

Unlike those of us who post anonymously or just don't bother to vote at all, Ig put himself out there. He went front and centre, announcing and defending policies, running for office and doing something to shape this country. That yesterday the voters said "not just no, but hell no" doesn't negate that.

We all lose if people don't run for office. We all lose if there aren’t vigourous debates and hard-fought campaigns, even in a losing effort. So, even though I disagreed with almost everything Ig stood for, I thank him.

In speaking to Liberal supporters Ignatieff said " we will continue the fight and I will fight with you and be your leader for as long as you want me to be"

Minutes later Liberals had their response for him "About one more sleep"

Canadians also had an answer for the professor this morning - " In the spirit of a true democracy let's have that charade of a contempt vote now in the parliament of Canada"

Canadians also have advice for the Liberal Party "If your next choice for leader is Bob Rae, that will be the final nail in the coffin of the Liberal Party of Canada."

Funny link, James, but I didn't have the heart to Google the names to see how many did win.

"He said he's hoping the next Liberal leader may be a young woman."

Not only is he a loser he's an ageist, sexist, son of a gun!

Just wondering - is Justin Trudeau threatening to move to Florida?

It's kind of traditional down here for loser lefty pols to threaten to move to Canada, so, you know...

I hear you, $ FKA gord @ 11:27 AM, but teaching all day kindergarten is WAY HARDER than anything Iggy's done so far.

Actually, being sentenced to that fate would be just what he deserves. (It wouldn't be so good for the poor kids, though.)

The only major negatives about last night's results were Elizabeth May's election (very strange indeed) and windbag Goodale retaining his seat.

Next exercise in Lieberal politics is whether or not to raise the ghost of Christmas' past as in Turdeau Mania Part Deux, continue the Rae Ride to full socialism or actually get new blood and start anew. Somehow, I can't imagine the back room coven to approve a wholesale to down change.

TJ: "Does this represent the final nail in the coffin for Trudeaumania in Canada?"

I can guarantee that it will be if boy wonder Justin decides to run for leader. That will be the sure sign that the LPC has nothing left.

This is my understanding of what the Conservatives will be looking at for 4 years on the other side of the HOC.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Gliederpuppe.png

Just asking, I wonder what the liberanos are gonna do about all the money they owe?

Iggy was awful but the Liberal party's problems (the entire West, Quebec, rural Canada, suburban Canada, fundraising, internal divisions, lack of policy and direction, corruption) go far beyond one man.

Still, it took the Torys 9 years to get a majority against 3 weak Liberal leaders, Adscam, and years of Liberal corruption. The NDP are a joke - they aren't going to hang on to those Quebec seats. The Liberals will eventually be back, though not in the form they are now (and hopefully not anytime soon).

The guy on my link at the star wars convention won. He's still working on his political science BA if you catch the drift.

Good point, FREE. Will Stepane Dion require yet another extension for his loans from the LAST election? Should Ignatieff be allowed to skip the country and leave a pile of debt behind? Inquiring minds.

Anyone have the PM's presser video from this morning?

Just perusing Facebook and noticed that newly elected Member of Parliament Ruth Ellen Brosseau (the vegas girl) has quite the FB profile and her latest status updates is... (drum roll)

Latest status update - Won the "jack"pot last night! 157,000$/year for 4 years. Much better than what I won in Vegas during my vacations last week!

Thank goodness there is a majority government to keep these people at bay...

Check http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Ruth-Ellen-Brosseau/196281490417162

Sounds like a sore loser to me.

What makes me feel so good is that the so called "ethnic vote" in some of the high percentage immigrant ridings such as Richmond BC have gone conservative. That means that they're seeing through the progressive left rhetoric and not buying it. I truly feel we ARE Canadians together. Perhaps now we can say good-bye to the anxiety caused by political correctness and progressive fear-mongering and enjoy this country together after all!
Do I alone see the vanquishing of the BQ as Quebec's rejection of separatism and a vote to re-join the Canadian dialogue?
Today my faith in Canadians is boundless! What a Canada Day we will have this year!

May 3 : Michael? It's Paul Desmarais on line 1

Maybe they should try someone from Yale.

"I will serve as long as the party wants to ask me to serve and not a day longer..."
..........iggy,phone call on line 1 for you!!!

So when do we start the "Draft Warren Kinsella" campaign?

I mean the Liberal party is down, but a Kinsella leadership period would put a stake through its cold, black diseased heart.

It would almost be as much fun as promoting Turd-Oh Junior for the leadership.

Some American friends in a chat room asked my wife what the election meant in Canada. She told them: "tomorrow we all get to go-out and shoot a liberal".

Apparently she got a bunch of "hell yeahs!" for a response, and one of disgust.

So now the ppg goes after Jack about his pylons. This is unreal.

Lucas Kenward...

Re: the Vegas girl

Gambling addiction? Very appropriate for a Dipper.

The only major negatives about last night's results were Elizabeth May's election (very strange indeed)...
Posted by: biffjr. at May 3, 2011 12:30 PM

And it had to happen in B.C. to boot. Sorry, everybody. I don't know what people in that riding were thinking, the Green voters anyways. They went from cabinet table representation to a one-trick-pony joke.

I was a bit cheesed off with Sun News last night when they replaced the "Other" graphic with the Green Party logo. Had I been in control, I'd have yanked the Bloc logo, and lumped Beaver May and the Bloquistes in the Other category.

Kathryn, 12:07, I agree with you.

Netty asks, "Do I alone see the vanquishing of the BQ as Quebec's rejection of separatism and a vote to re-join the Canadian dialogue?".
I don't know if you're alone, but I don't see it that way. I think Quebec will soon realize that it has elected a bunch of loogans to represent it, and that they have no ability to get anything done for Quebec. This will, I think, lead to a rise in the fortunes of the separatists at the Provincial level. I really can't see that the minority of separatists has shrunk that much.

BTW the quebec press gallery is asking the real questions. The CBC bimbos are asking him about how it feels to move into stornway etc.

Lucas Kenward, thanks for posting that facebook. Very revealing.

With such children in opposition Harper is going to literally crush the NDP over the coming years.

'I thought Bob Rae put the nail in Iggy's coffin when interviewed by CBC after the Iggy speech. Although he talk in round about terms, there was no doubt he intended to show Iggy the door asap.'

What a sad little thing the Liberal party has become when Bob Rae is now considered one of its elder statesmen. OK, so next up, Spawn of Trudeau and after that Rae.

And when I say 'sad', I mean pathetic. It makes me giddy all over.

When I saw the green party being mentioned I thought it was a joke to piss off the conservatives.

Well it is a joke but...........

Just visited.

I'm a bit dismayed at the extent of the Liberal collapse. Without the government subsidy, deep, deeply in debt, they'll be many years rebuilding, if ever. Kind of reminds me of what Van der Zalm did to the BC Social Credit party, they never recovered. That means when the Conservatives eventually do fall, the NDP will be in power. Now that's scary!

One other salient fact about this election is that Harper and his Tories achieved a majority WITHOUT Quebec. In spite of Quebec, even. That's huge in my opinion. By the next election, there should be about 18 more seats in Tory-friendly areas, mainly in Alberta and BC, making achieving the same goal next time around relatively easier.

Quebeckers voted for change but backed a losing horse. If they wanted to rejoin the Canadian dialogue, I'm not sure how that happens by voting for faceless candidates vacationing in Vegas. I'm gratified as hell to see the Bloc die, but miffed that, once again, Quebeckers did their damnedest to prevent a Tory majority.

Caution: That Facebook profile may be fake.

The problem now for the strategists becomes how do you undermine the NDP in QC without pissing off the base. I think Mulrooney will not be asked for input somehow.

I have my suspicions it is a fake Facebook profile as well (upon deep inspection), but it speaks to the challenges that Jack! will have over the next few years.

"Caution: That Facebook profile may be fake."

hehe, definitely is, but it's still amusing.

Yes, that's a hilarious Facebook parody.

This should be a tip as to it's authenticity, from the profile:
"Waking up as a bartender on one day, and MP on the other, I f***ing love my life! I can finally afford a new kitchen set"

hmmm, on second thought... ;)

For james at May 3, 2011 12:54 PM:
The PM's presser available on CPAC here:
http://www.cpac.ca/forms/index.asp?dsp=template&act=view3&pagetype=vod&hl=e&clipID=5566

"I'm a bit dismayed at the extent of the Liberal collapse. Without the government subsidy, deep, deeply in debt"

Does this mean that it's not a good time to ask for our $40 million back?

Kate
Thank you to you and your contributors for all the coverage and links during the recent election.
For those of us who have given up on the MSM it was appreciated.

I'm not counting the Liberals out. The NDP elected 4 McGill students so expect either a demand for students to not show up or the U of Parliament to be demanded (with daycare of course.)
Gonna be a lot of laughs in the future.
Jack and Liz shouting each other down in the scrums. Journos falling asleep during the endless rants. That is payback folks.

Yep, and the absent-minded professor also restated during the press conference the lie that he had no choice but to call an election because Harper "was in contempt of Parliament". Looks like Iggy has a long way to go before he "learns a lesson" -- the "contempt of Parliament" baloney is something the opposition has been trying to cook up for the past two years, before there was even a single pretext for doing so (Evidence: lots of past articles in Macleans, etc., etc.).

I don't have the slightest respect for the departing Iggynoramus -- he lost because he was a liar devoid of ethics and a moral compass, and a Liberal power-monger "in contempt of Democracy", and Democracy gave him the spanking that he deserved.

And I had the privilege of personally voting against Iggy and seeing him lose -- I live in Iggy's Toronto riding.
Yippee!

"I think Quebec will soon realize that it has elected a bunch of loogans to represent it, and that they have no ability to get anything done for Quebec. This will, I think, lead to a rise in the fortunes of the separatists at the Provincial level. I really can't see that the minority of separatists has shrunk that much."

I coukld not have said it better. The NDP made some pretty nmajor promises...none they have in their power to keep. this will most definitely piss off la Belle province...I see referendum in 4-5 years.

stk

"I think Quebec will soon realize that it has elected a bunch of loogans to represent it, and that they have no ability to get anything done for Quebec. This will, I think, lead to a rise in the fortunes of the separatists at the Provincial level. I really can't see that the minority of separatists has shrunk that much."

I could not have said it better. The NDP made some pretty major promises...none they have in their power to keep. This will most definitely piss off la Belle province...I see referendum in 4-5 years.

stk

Has Heather Mallick left the country yet? or hurled herself off the 9th floor?

the fall of the lieberal party started with Turdough, and has had a push to put it over the cliff by each subsiquent "leader". Iggula just finished the job. And if they, lieberals, don't clean house and start anew, they may just as well burn the place down, because their current group is devoid of any leaders

Igantieff going back to teaching.....I sure hope his subject isn't Political Science.

Don't let the door hit yah where The Good Lord Split Yah..

When I saw the clip of the 4,000 Hockey Mom's and Dad's Booing his sad ass and phony smile I knew in my heart he was a gonner. Now get.

And as opposition leader, we have a man you'd go for a beer and a massage with.

Now that Jack Layton is the Leader of the Official Opposition might his #1 immediate priority be to demand free massage "therapy" as part of MP benefits? Or might this already be part of their sizable benefits plan?!

Basically, Ignatieff is saying: "Darn it, I am a loser, but I am not a sore loser".

steakman writes: ""I think Quebec will soon realize that it has elected a bunch of loogans to represent it, and that they have no ability to get anything done for Quebec."

When Jack shows up for the job, he will find that just over half his caucus is made up of Quebec candidates who were likely vetted poorly, if at all, and may have run on a dare or because they were between engagements at coffee shops. We've already met the (recently) ex-Communist Karate Kid and the Hon. (Not) Leaving Las Vegas Brousseau. How many other fascinating stories are out there for research by gnomes in the PMO?

And this rogues' gallery will be presided over by the thuggish Mr Mulcair. The press just thinks that Mr Harper has kept his MPs on a short leash; they've seen nothing yet.

Not to be cynical or anything, but don't you think May's victory is actually good strategically? If the Green party are seen as viable, then maybe next election they take 10% of the vote, instead of 3% or whatever they took this time. And the more we split the left, the better!

Great to see Harper get his majority.
Cannot believe Ol' RubnTug Jack is going to be living in another taxpayer funded home! Does this guy EVER pay for housing?

Copy, pasted my comment on BCF earlier today:

Don't shed a tear for Darth Harvard, I am certain he will get a job from LPC (Liberal Parachute Club) member Allan Rock of the University of Ottawazistan.
He'll probably create a Resident Alien, er Alien in Residence, er Just Visiting Fellowtravellership position for Iggy.

Barring that, he can become straight man for Rick Mercer's jokes: "Hey Iggy, how many progressives does it take to screw up a vote mob? Answer, me!"

On my blog I received an interesting comment from the manager of a radio station in Mademoiselle Brousseau's riding. He referred me to a link of the only interview with her to date. Perhaps someone fluent in French could translate the bits they find interesting and/or hilarious?

http://www.ch2ofm.com/index.php?file=News&op=suite&news_id=358

"loogans"

haven't heard that term for years, and yet it perfectly sums up most of the new NDP caucus.

"Question Period"? More like "Canadian Idol", if you ask me.

What can one say? He is a political dilettante.

I'm just salivating at the thought of these new Dipper MPs having a mic in front of their mugs.

Just one question about Israel or foreign affairs and the loons will make a spectacle of themselves. Get ready for Gaffe-a-Mania.

Unless Jack reigns in his MPs a la Harper, it's going to be very fun watching the loons speak for Canadians.

iggy's major problem, as was dijon's and most of the dippers and greenies is that they mistake education for intelligence when what they really need is common sense and they don't teach that so they don't recognize it in the unwashed masses they love to look down their noses at. Put a 21 year old 'activist' student into an argument with a 50 year old tradesman who's busy putting his own kids that age through university and they'll lose every single time, because they haven't learned yet that the world doesn't owe them anything and demanding the 'government' pay for their education just means they'll be in for a horrendous surprise when they graduate and suddenly have to pay the higher taxes their ludicrous demands forced.

Advanced education is a wonderful thing, but in most cases, especially iggy's all it does is make you able to discuss for hours things absolutely nobody cares about except the few studying it and your only real job option afterwards is teaching the same thing.

Don't take it the wrong way, we need art historians, Polisci and English lit majors...someone has to the make the fries after both of the available jobs in their fields are filled.

Meanwhile, a plumber makes more than most arts graduates mainly because more people need to take a crap than read it.

Ever notice how many dippers have math or engineering degrees ? try next to none.

First comment from Abe included this re Harvard:

"We really need to ban university professors from politics they are so stupid."

You wan more Harvard?

Go to WUWT and find this:

"Sir John Houghton once famously said:

Unless we announce disasters, no one will listen.

Except actually he didn’t say that. His real words were:

“If we want a good environmental policy in the future we’ll have to have a disaster.”

Now, in an eerie echo of the learned Sir John, we have the words of Robert Stavins, the head of Harvard’s Environmental Economics program: Continue reading →"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/05/03/quote-of-the-week-climate-catastrophe-deja-vu-all-over-again/#more-39250

H/T Lizard May, MP.

Szuszanna's packing the bags as I write. "Michael, can you hurry up the process? How soon can you bow out? Let's get out of here ASAP -- like yesterday."

Hi Robert W. Here's a (rough) translation. Plz forgive errors.

******

The station was contacting the candidates for the different parties in Berthier-Maskinongé to offer them the chance of a radio interview when they got in touch with Mme Brosseau. This was at the beginning of April.

From the first moments of the conversation it was very evident that this resident of the region of l'Outaouais had, as her first language, English. Her French was a bit limited, and there was a rather impressive accent.

In response to the question posed by our journalist: “Do you speak French?”, she ventured, with a pronounced accent: ”Yes, a little bit.”

When we explained that we were contacting her as NDP candidate for Berthier-Maskinongé, there was a noticeable delay before she answered.

“Oh, oui, yes, yes,” she said.

Moreover, when we mentioned the point of our phone call (to have a interview with her for our programme), she said she would call us back to discuss it, a promise she didn’t keep.

The Liberal party candidate, Francine Gaudet, as well as the Bloc candidate, Guy André, both candidates in the same riding, reacted on our programme to this little story surrounding the NDP candidate.

“This doesn’t hold water. These facts weren’t known by people. I hope that the voting population carefully checks out the candidates before voting on May 2nd,” declared Mme. Gaudet.

“I imagine that voters wouldn’t cast a ballot for someone who isn’t actually in Outaouais,” put forth Guy André.

In addition to all this, the Globe and Mail has reported that Ellen Ruth Brosseau is currently on vacation in Las Vegas.

Comments:

1: “It’s in Quebec that Mme. Broussea actually won the jackpot.” Dated 03.05.2011

2: “We deserve better than that in Berthier-Maskinongé, we have a good representative and we’re keeping him, we’re voting for the Bloc’s M. Guy André.” 29.04.2011

3: “Hello! As the Rhinoceros candidate, I repeat: Federal politics is a serious business. It’s for this reason I would like to offer my support to the NDP candidate.

“If I should decide not to run in the next federal election, I will certainly consider her to replace me.

“Good luck miss Brosseau. I wish you a very good trip in Las Vegas.”

Martin "Acetaria Caesar" Jubinville
Candidat Rhinocéros
Berthier-Maskinongé
28.04.2011

To translate the "interview" with Mademoiselle Brousseau, got to google translate (http://translate.google.com/#) paste in the URL and you're good to go. Not perfect, but certainly readable.

Re The Grope & Flail article:

Did I miss the 3rd Liberal leadership races? Mr. Ditheres replaced T'Gar (1), Stephie replaced Mr. Dithers (2). Who was "elected via a leadership race & vote" to replace Stephie? I recall Iggy was appointed by the Liberal back room without a race.
Do newspaper writers & editors know how to use Google & Wikipedia?

It is with some degree of satisfaction I watch this elitist UN globalist slink back into some lower 48 globalist brain trust vacuum to lick the wounds to his gargantuan ego. Treating one of the mob party's snobby leaders like a 'whupped dawg' gives some satisfaction for the decades of corruption,and statist autocrcy they burdened this nation with.

RIP count Iggula, your klepto party is on death watch as you leave - life is sweet!
Posted by: Occam at May 3, 2011 11:51 AM

Thank-you Occam for the definitive statements that epitomize, exactly, my thoughts on the fella from USA who came up here to 'take over' for the evil World Gument promoting demons. I don't care a fig where he goes, I just wish he was taking his pal, Jacko, with him. I'm happy to see my country with a 'strong, stable, Conservative, majority government' under the able, fine leadership of Prime Minister Stephen Harper.

Everybody assumes that he will go back to Harvard. But is that really possible?
He was head of the Carr Center http://www.hks.harvard.edu/cchrp/
But he isn't any more.
Charlie Clements is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Clements_%28physician%29

So now what?

Too funny...

Bemused

Yes, Progressives don't understand that education is a 'means' to an 'end', not an 'end' in its self. This is why they feel so much envy when they see Joe "the Plumber's" pay stub.

What has become obvious to everyone except academia is: academics are woefully inadequate to run anything, especially government or business. Why would they? That's what we should be asking.

*itself*

@Robert W. 4:36

Any takers? I'll do it if no one has stepped up yet. I don't like duplication of effort.

@Robert W. 4:36

Whoops, thought it was audio. The Google Translation of the page is rough, but the gist is what has been largely reported in the media to date. Nothing new at all in there.

I love the smell of schadenfreude in spring:)

SoM, merci beaucoup!

Speaking of translation, perhaps you or someone else will be able to "decipher" the hate filled screed of Heather Mallick in today's Guardian.

I'm waiting for tonight's Reader Tips before posting it.

The media articles are hilarious today, could be my mood however.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/time-centre-left-merger-says-harvard-153850016.html

Harvard appears to be sniffing around to be accepted by the dippers now.
Even have Axworthy's bemoaning the liberal loss and solid Grit riding's going Tory. The money quote is at the bottom:

"There's an old saying, lie down and cry a while — and then we can arise to fight again."

Really?
I've never heard of this, ever.
All I hear is a liberal saying that its an old saying, still making it up as they go ... away.

Anyone else ever hear of this old saying?

it appears to be from a scottish poem called "the Thistle and the Rose"

‘ “ Fight on, my men,’”Sir Andrew says,
“ A little I’m hurt, but yet not slain,
I’ll but lie down and bleed awhile,
And then I’ll rise to fight again.

‘“ Fight on, my men,” Sir Andrew says,
“ And never flinch before the foe,
And stand fast by St. Andrew’s cross
Until you hear my whistle blow.” ’

the stanza immediately following that quote is far more appropriate to the count though...maybe he should have read the whole poem instead of having some grad student look a deep sounding quote up for him...typical..they stop looking as soon as they find what they think they want and miss the important parts

...They never heard his whistle blow. Gallant Sir
Andrew had fought his last fight, and lay dead upon the
deck...

Indiana....or anyone else ;) remind your college aged acquaintances of this ancient wisdom from yet another great philosopher that never attended Harvard or any other modern 'university' and who, interestingly enough, has been called the father of political realism and is a must read at military colleges...which explains why the moonbats have never heard of it and why I keep it in my quotes file.

THE NATION THAT MAKES A GREAT DISTINCTION BETWEEN ITS SCHOLARS AND ITS WARRIORS WILL HAVE ITS THINKING DONE BY COWARDS AND ITS FIGHTING DONE BY FOOLS. -THUCYDIDES

Jema 54 @ 6:35, amen to that.

Bemused, I appreciate the words you bring to this forum.

I am not sure who said the following or where it came from, but somewhere I once heard that generals and engineers build countries, lawyers and politicians destroy them.

I know if Michael Ignatieff went back to teaching, I would be pulling my kid from that classroom.

I've heard similar but when I googled it I found this that I much prefer since it's so much more accurate...even if it seems to be from a fictional piece

"if the creator had any purpose, it was to bring into harmony the human family. He most definitely charged the legal family with the responsibility. Engineers can build cities and generals can destroy them, but only a lawyer can create the order necessary for them to complete their task."

to which I'd add... "there exists no engineering marvel or militarily precise operation that a good lawyer can't make unrecognizeable and unworkable"

I think "lay down with dogs and arise with fleas" is a more-apt saying.

shorter too

Campaign video of the "count" attempt at flipping burgers, shows what his future course of study should include.

That way he'll be able to relate to "the common man".

well..he DOES have an Arts degree so he passes the education part of a fry cook application...burgers take extra training.