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April 20, 2011

Statement from Premier Wall

Via David Akin;

I am deeply troubled by Mr. Ignatieff’s assertion that he may choose to overturn the democratic result of the federal election. While I understand that the scenario spelled out by Mr. Ignatieff is within the conventions of our Parliamentary tradition, the last thing our country and our still fragile economic recovery need right now is a period of instability caused by a constitutional dispute over who should be the government. Morever, Canada is poised to solidify its position as an economic leader in a world that needs the food security and the energy security we can provide. How can we take full advantage of this reality if we are distracted by interminable national political machinations and constitutional wrangling? The party that wins the most seats on May 2 should be recognized as the government, period. If that were to be the Liberals, I would join with other Canadians in accepting this result and recognizing Mr. Ignatieff as our next Prime Minister. However, if the Conservatives win the most seats but come up short of a majority, I would expect Mr. Ignatieff and his party to accept that result.

The notion that Mr. Ignatieff may choose to not recognize the democratic result of the election and may try to seize power with the support of the other parties, including a party dedicated to the breakup of Canada, is offensive to me and I believe, to most fair-minded Canadians. Voters should choose the government, not separatist MPs.

Ironically, this election was caused by a confidence vote over “contempt for Parliament.” I can think of no greater contempt for Parliament or for Canadian voters than the spectre of a party leader refusing to recognize the democratic outcome of the election.

Posted by Kate at April 20, 2011 5:59 PM
Comments

And to think there are those out there who would love to see some sort of proportional representation. That would be a catastrophe.
Good on Premier Wall for speaking out.

Posted by: mike at April 20, 2011 6:05 PM

let the attack dogs loose on Mr.Wall, God forbid that any who speak for the good of the people in this country not be slandered and attacked by the entitled left! Alway,s hungry for power no matter how or the price to Canadian people.

Posted by: royalist at April 20, 2011 6:11 PM

Bang on Mr.Wall.

I am mortified at the thought of literally giving the Leftist Loons the keys to the asylum. I am truly dumbfounded that any fiscally conservative Liberal voter could even consider voting for such coalition. I suppose the error in my thinking is the assumption that there ARE some fiscally conservative Liberal voters. Perhaps they are all Loons eh?

Way to go Mr. Wall! Your brilliant political move to the populist center with respect to the BHP attempted take-over of PCS has likely put you in a unique position of trust (somewhat) with Progressives for a conservative politician. I suspect that you are the most well liked and respected politician in the land if you consider both sides of the political spectrum. If Harper's haters will not listen to Mr. Wall, they will not be swayed by anyone.JMO

Posted by: Wesstern Canada Homez at April 20, 2011 6:11 PM

Premier Wall has ably posited that which many (most?) Canadians believe. If Mr. Ignatieff and his socialist/separatist bedfellows actually get in a position to usurp power, he can, I think, be comfortable in the knowledge that he will preside over a fractured country. And it will be his doing.

Posted by: canuck66 at April 20, 2011 6:12 PM

Brad Wall's voice of caution doesn't matter and neither will anyone else's. Apparently, all dissenting votes are evidence of ignorance not concern. According to the MSM intelligent Canadians must keep telling themselves "All that matter is that this is constitutionally legitimate. All that matters is this is constitutionally legitimate...".

Adler had a good point about the coalition business the last time around:

Imagine if you will, if these professors were confronted with a situation in which their favorite Party, the NDP, had won more than 140 seats in the House of Commons. Imagine if the NDP had double the seat total of the Conservatives. Imagine what would happen if the Conservatives had then gotten together with two other parties, one of them being an Alberta Only party and then perhaps the Christian Heritage Party, one that would be supporting Capital Punishment and Opposing Abortion. Imagine if the Conservative Party with their right of centre coalition partners including a party dedicated to the Independence of Alberta. Imagine if the Conservatives signed a document with these smaller parties and presented that to the Governor General and said, “We have ourselves a legitimate, constitutional, coalition of elected members who have lost confidence in the government led by Jack Layton. He must face the house. He must face defeat, and we must now come to you Governor General, your excellency and pick up the keys to a new government.”

Can you imagine the professors of our elite universities going on the National TV Newscasts, saying “This coalition is very much in keeping with Constitutional Values, Canadian values and there is no reason to go back to the polls. These coalition partners ought to be given a chance to make government work.”

If you can imagine the professors giving their intellectual and moral consent to that, then you can also imagine Pigs flying, Cows barking, and Cockroaches coming up with a cure for cancer.

Posted by: LC Bennett at April 20, 2011 6:13 PM

I remember when our province used to have a premier who had a back bone. Maybe the Wildrose party will change this province back.

Posted by: mark at April 20, 2011 6:15 PM

Premier Wall is playing to the wonts of most Saskatchewan federal centrists, which is the federal Conservative Party. Premier Wall is a rock star!!!! Is there nothing Premier Wall *can't* do right?

Posted by: Mike in Calgary at April 20, 2011 6:16 PM

I wouldn't have expected so clear and compelling an argument from Wall. Maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention to him.

Posted by: mj at April 20, 2011 6:18 PM

Would love to see Ralphy lose his seat in Saskatchewan.

Posted by: Gobi Desert at April 20, 2011 6:19 PM

OCHeadlines: Liberals trusted less than NDP, Tories on health care: poll: More Canadians trust the NDP and the Conservatives ... http://bit.ly/eJmIoS

Posted by: mikey at April 20, 2011 6:21 PM

The problem with Lieberals is ... well, self evident! Some moron - might have been 'Davenport' or 'Bill Stewart' - called up Charles Adler today and casually threw away 144 years of Canadian Democratic History by saying that there was nothing wrong with Iggy's intentions and Coalitions like this occur in Europe all the time.

If the undemocratic scoundrels attempt to immorally seize control of our government like Iggy is now hinting they will, then rest assured that I will be attending every protest rally possible here in Vancouver where I live. I hope you all do the same in your communities!

Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver) at April 20, 2011 6:34 PM

Well said, Premier Brad Wall!

The people who deemed the Harper gov't to be in contempt of Parliament are basically the same people who brought down the gov't by voting down the budget. They intend to take over by hook or by crook. It's called being in cahoots.

They couldn't care less what the voters want!

Posted by: chutzpahticular at April 20, 2011 6:34 PM

Brad Wall for Prime Minister.

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 6:40 PM

Wow Ignatieff has a few skeletons in his closet ay. Would a leadership convention have brought this to light or not. To bad he was appointed. Keep pealing back that onion skin on him. I am looking forward to Jack Layton as the leader of the official opposition, with a conservative majority. To use a line that the liberal's used to use at nauseum...it's time.

Posted by: wuberman at April 20, 2011 6:40 PM

Wall's last line has the makings of a Tory ad.

Posted by: Mark at April 20, 2011 6:43 PM

There does seem to be some misunderstanding on our side of the fence on this issue. The phrase "seize power" seems to be a recurring point but it not a correct one. Whereas, the coalition is correct in terms of the legality of what they might ask the GG to do, they are not pointing out that the GG has an equal legal power to look all three of them in the face, say "No", and set a second election date for later in the summer. In addition to the legal authority vested in the Office of the Governor General, the morals and ethics of the matter do side with the GG saying no as pointed out by Premier Wall.

I posted something in the other thread; most is reposted here as it really belongs here.

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I did and do appreciate Mr. Ignatieff's new found honesty regarding the issue of the coalition (formal or informal). Now that he has admitted what we all knew was the real motivation for the election, it might be useful to consider the role of the Governor General in all this. The reason I say that is that I am not convinced that Mr Harper's 2 scenarios are the complete picture. The way I see it, there are 4 possibilities.

Mr Harper says there are only 2 possibilities: the coalition or a majority CPC government. These are certainly 2 of the 4 possibilities but there are 2 more. He said before the election something like "they will deny it every day of the election, but the next day they will do it." Up until yesterday, he was correct about the Liberals regarding the first part of his statement. The second part is the issue. There is a difference between "they will do it" and "they will request permission from the GG to do it". I, like Mr. Harper, am not in doubt about the desire by the 3 parties for a coalition; it is the certainty of it happening that I doubt although I concede that the GG could make a bad decision and we could have a coalition government. That is only in the event that the GG makes a bad decision. He will have to consider the factors. The third possibility follows.

First, the GG needs to ensure that any government that is formed is in Canada's best interests. He will weigh two decisions that are both within the letter of the law: the idea of the coalition as it would work out in practice, and the idea of dissolving Parliament and calling another election in the summer. Yesterday, Mr. Layton called the idea of a second election in 2011 ridiculous. Hopefully, the GG will be more thoughtful in his analysis.

The GG will need to see through the optics of the 2008 written deal where the role of the Bloc was not mentioned as part of the formal Coalition but the Bloc did agree to not vote non-confidence to bring down the coalition government for a specified period of time. The GG will need to see through this because an agreement to simply not vote non-confidence does include being absent from the House during a vote. An absent Bloc vote during a non-confidence vote would ensure the Conservatives could bring down a Liberal/NDP Coalition government at any opportunity if they hold more seats than the combined Liberals and NDP. Therefore, a simply agreement to not vote non-confidence is insufficient; an agreement to always vote confidence over a specified period of time would be required. In essence, a formal Coalition agreement between all 3 parties would be required; it would need to be even stronger than the 2008 agreement.

Although the idea of Quebec separating is somewhat dubious, the GG should give some weight to the idea that a Bloc supported Coalition would increase the odds of the Bloc pursuing its agenda, and should it accomplish that agenda in its entirety, an instant Conservative majority would emerge. However, I am unsure as to how much weight the GG should give to this argument.

There are other more political arguments that can be used against the idea of the Coalition, but the main point is that the GG will need to be convinced that the government can actually govern and that it is in Canada's interests. So while Mr. Layton may be right in saying that it would be ridiculous to have two elections in 2011, the GG may decide that the idea of a Coalition is even more ridiculous and a second, summer 2011 election would be called.

The fourth possibility is that in a minority Conservative government, Mr. Harper modifies the budget oh so slightly, and gives one of the parties wiggle room to go back on their campaign promise to vote against the budget and things carry on as they have over the last 5 years.

Posted by: Brent Weston at April 20, 2011 6:44 PM

What Iggy and his enablers don't touch is the fact that a rapid defeat of PMSH's likely minority will probably have an effect on our financial markets. This coupled with the very thin ice the American economy is skating on now would cause an erosion of our markets. Do we want to take that risk?

Thank you Premier Wall.

Certainly a much more worthy contribution to the national debate than offered by the increasingly silly Ms. Atwood in the Mop and Pail today. I am sure her column spurred many titters among the Rosedale crowd. But seriously, who would you by a vacuum from? Iggy or Steve. I am not sure Iggy knows what one looks like.

Very clever Maggie. I can only hope that that machine you famously bought to sign your books penned that article and not you.

Posted by: wnmc at April 20, 2011 6:46 PM

As it turns out, I was a few hours out front of our Premier.

Posted by: Kate at April 20, 2011 6:47 PM

Further to my above post, suppose that the GG does make the wrong decision and gives the green light to the Coalition to form a government. There is another letter of the law issue.

The Conservative controlled Senate has power to delay passage of bills long enough to outlast the time for the average Canadian minority government which is 18-24 months.

A Coalition even of the type being considered is in theory legal; however, this Coalition would not have any power in practice.

It would be interesting to see such a situation in action. I wonder if we would hear the MSM refer to the Canadian Senate as the House of "sober second thought" if it simply "rose up", "rose up", "rose up" and stalled all the bills attempted by a legally permitted but morally illegitimate Coalition government.

Posted by: Brent Weston at April 20, 2011 6:52 PM

Mr Wall has cajoles. Bravo, sir.

Posted by: Texas-Canuck at April 20, 2011 6:55 PM

I've always been a federalist, but if Brad Wall ran for Prime Minister of Western Canada, he'd have my vote.

Posted by: Skull at April 20, 2011 6:56 PM

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I'm afeared that the new Minority Government to be foisted upon us will not last long.

Certain "Canadian" wannabe destroyers of democracy as we have known it, have been, and are, plotting to take-over as a coalition of losers.

Though such an arrangement may be "legal", think of the consequences. The resultant governing coalition will be composed of a significant number of members dedicated to tear the HofC apart.

Bookmark this page.
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Posted by: noel at April 20, 2011 7:01 PM

Ignatieff-putting the 'RECKLESS' in reckless coalition.

Posted by: Farmer Joe at April 20, 2011 7:02 PM

Brent, it would be interesting but best avoided.

Posted by: wnmc at April 20, 2011 7:03 PM

Ezra did a good job on Iggy this afternoon.

Iggy will envoke a coalition at his extreme peril.

Posted by: atric at April 20, 2011 7:08 PM

wnmc:

Agreed. My point is that I am expecting the GG to be aware of these issues and, therefore, the Coalition is not as simple as simply adding the anti-Conservative votes. It is easy to say "we all don't want Harper in charge". It is much more difficult to explain to the GG how they would govern. That is the question they will have to answer.

Posted by: Brent Weston at April 20, 2011 7:09 PM

Bravo Mr. Brad Wall! One Premier in this nation is thinking about the fate of this nation and the citizens living in this nation. Where is Red Ed? The rest of the premiers are of no account because they are Dipper or Dipper lite, just like the Troika!

PMSH has been informing the Canadian people of the chaotic fate awaiting Canada, should the CPC not gain a majority, since the onset of this election. The Troika 'Treaty' is a 'living' document - having 'life' until June 11/11. The Troika (Liberanos/Dippers/Blocheads), should they steal power, will bankrupt English Canada (esp.the west) to appease Ducippi because Ducippi will enable the fraud to exist. Ducippi will be the de facto Prime Minister, Jacko or Icky will go to the parties. Canadians will foot the bill for all the $$ it will cost to maintain the fraud that will be the Toika in power. Canada would turn into an economic wasteland overnight (May 2nd/May 3rd).

The carbon tax ( a cash cow favorite of all three Bolshevic head clowns) will shut down all oil gas production and NFLD can kiss the Lower Churchill project good-bye. Ont/Que will cut the ROC off at the knees before we have time to clear out of the country.

If Canadians fall for the Troika 'coalition is O.K.' fraud that the msm cheerleaders are spreading in favor of their chosen gument (the Troika) then they are a truly stupid nation, deserving of the poverty that their foolish arrogance will earn them.

Wise up Canada, wise up!


Posted by: Jema 54 at April 20, 2011 7:11 PM

If ..only..we..in..Ontario had a Premier like that,I am so depressed.McGuinty,free to a good home,any takers.

Posted by: greyburr at April 20, 2011 7:28 PM

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and just think... iggy's little government toppling exercise
is only costing us 300 million dollars.

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Posted by: neo at April 20, 2011 7:34 PM

I won't reconize a coalition government as legal or ethical, I've had enough of the power mongering left negating the will of the electorate. Never in my wildest's dreams would I suspect a Canadian of convienance could walk into this nation and take what he can't win in an election. A coalition government will cause our stock market to come to a screeching halt, our economy will tank because of their carbon credit scam and the one billion they promised the Bloc comes out of our pockets/paychecks without our consent.

Posted by: Rose at April 20, 2011 7:34 PM

greyburr Is he neutered?

Posted by: Speedy at April 20, 2011 7:37 PM

I don't think this will play on the CBC....

They actually bent the Iggy over and beat him on the head until he agreed to the Troika coalition. AKA as the "UN/EU Party of Canada"


Game on CBC.. it's the UN vs all Canadians

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at April 20, 2011 7:41 PM

Thank you Brad Wall.
Not only did the Liberals steal our money...now they want to steal the results of our election.
OMG!

Posted by: Helen at April 20, 2011 7:42 PM

Thank you Brad Wall...canadians r lucky to have such a man as he.

Posted by: doug at April 20, 2011 7:46 PM

Muchos gracias Premier Wall! The last paragraph is brilliant.

Posted by: Agent Smith at April 20, 2011 7:48 PM

Phillip G. Shaw: " 'AKA as the 'UN/EU Party of Canada' Game on CBC.. it's the UN vs all Canadians"

They think we are too stupid to catch on.

Nice try.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at April 20, 2011 7:49 PM

Stelmach made a statement about the Libs and dips putting the oilsands in peril
He should now step to the mike on this
Actually so should all the provinces ,I can see a federal liberal intrusion into all elections as the next step

Posted by: cal2 at April 20, 2011 7:53 PM

Mr. Weston you make some good points. But. If the CPC have a razor thin majority of only a couple of seats then they do have to work with the Opposition. In Normal Circumstance in the Westminister Tradition. But this situation in Canada has never happened anywhere at anytime in the whole wide world with a Westminister Parliament. Were you have an avowed Separatist Party whose only aim is the breakup of the country by means fair or foul. For the NDP and the Libs to seek the help of the Bloc is basically a Treason against the Crown. It is in no way acceptable for the GG to ignore this fact. If he accedes to the wishes of the NDP/Lib/Bloc SEPARATIST PARTIES he himself the GG would be committing TREASON. The Bloc have no seats outside of Quebec. Therefore they should never ever be allowed to hold the WHIPHAND on the rest of Canada. In fact if this is allowed every Premier in Canada should publicly take a stand and bring on a real Constitutional Crisis and cut off all moneys flowing into Ottawa. Lets really show the Liberals and Iggy what can Rise Up.....They are playing with fire....

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 7:54 PM

wanna trade ? you get stelmach for Premier Wall

Posted by: inn of the north at April 20, 2011 7:55 PM

Well-said, Mr. Wall! My sentiments exactly.

As one commenter at SunTV put it, this election and talk of a coalition of losers is contempt of democracy.

What really annoyed me yesterday when Rae was asked by David Akin about a coalition of the LPC, NDP, and the Bloc Quebecois, was Bob Rae's shrug and his saying "I don't know what all the fuss is about."

He's contemptuous of anyone/any party that doesn't fall into lockstep with his left-lib ideas. His dream is "to unite the Left" and if that means bashing the Conservatives and giving the finger to CPC supporters across Canada, he's OK with that.

Bob Rae is contemptuous of democracy, not exactly a foreign concept to Leftists the world over.

Canada's nightmare.

Posted by: batb at April 20, 2011 7:55 PM

I would advise Western Canadians to start writing to their Premiers, to grow aset, Premier Wall exempted he has already manned up for us all. Or if in Alberta, call the free call 310-0000 and ask for the Premier's office and tell him to get a set. Also maybe an email to daniellesmith@wildrosealliance.ca and ask her to put the spurs on step in for the Lame Duck Stelmach and defend the rights of Albertan's. From what I see, the Libs/NDP/Bloc are all Separatist Parties and should be called Separatists from now on....

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 8:03 PM

Iggy says Harper has contempt for Parliament.

I say Iggy has contempt for Canada.

Posted by: Fred at April 20, 2011 8:07 PM

McGuinty,free to a good home,any takers.

I wouldn't even stipulate that it has to be a "good" home.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 20, 2011 8:08 PM

292 woeds that reflect my opinion entirely....

Posted by: OMMAG at April 20, 2011 8:10 PM

292 WORDs that reflect my opinion entirely....

Posted by: OMMAG at April 20, 2011 8:12 PM

Stelmach will probably step up, right now he is a little tentative because of the beating the global warming lunatics have hammered Alberta with the last few years. That globall warming thing sure worked out good for Suzuki Gore Strong etc, I'm sure their accounts are overflowing with ill-gotten gains from morons. Wall made a great speech and Canada needs to look at the high stakes, and what is happening around the world presently. There is a reason this slime Iggula and his troika brought down and Honest Harper Govt. , and it has nothing to do with trumped up contempt. It is timing people, in order to bring about a new currency and control, certian big money people gave us Iggula, with orders to destabilize one of the only stable countries in the Northern Hemisphere right now. Thanks for aiding and abbetting CBC CTV Globe Star etc. what could turn out to be the destruction of Canada if people were ever dumb enough to vote this evil professor in.

Posted by: bartinsky at April 20, 2011 8:14 PM

My feeling is that it will be close to a majority for PMSH. Shy by perhaps a half dozen seats. Lets not forget the time honoured tradition of crossing the floor (Hey Belinda, where you at now?). If PMSH forms the government he has the option of offering plums to members in other parties.

The poll numbers indicate that the Liberals and the NDP combined will not have enough seats to form a government without the BLOQ. Forming a working government that would palatable to the GG and the Canadian public would not be possible.

Posted by: wnmc at April 20, 2011 8:17 PM

bartinsky: "There is a reason this slime Iggula and his troika brought down and Honest Harper Govt. , and it has nothing to do with trumped up contempt. It is timing people, in order to bring about a new currency and control, certian big money people gave us Iggula, with orders to destabilize one of the only stable countries in the Northern Hemisphere right now."

Bartinsky, this should be posted all over the Canadian cyber world. This is EXACTLY the PLAN.

Thanks for laying it out so accurately.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at April 20, 2011 8:30 PM

It is an example of the Sore Loser Syndrome. For a man whose platform was democracy, how interesting we should see the true colours (Canadian spelling) of this American poseur.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at April 20, 2011 8:38 PM

Suppose after the vote that the NDP and BQ have the same number of seats, the LPC loses 2 and the CPC gains 2. Could Ig really expect the keys be turned over to him when Canadians find him less appealing than before?

Posted by: Kathryn at April 20, 2011 8:40 PM

You're right, bartinsky. It's all about one-world government, before which stable Western democracies need to be destabilized -- what we're seeing with the Ombamanation's "leadership" (sic) in the U.S. and, now, this possible takeover by the Left here in Canada -- and to hell with democracy.

You're right, big and deadly money is behind this, wielded by unscrupulous, evil, Godless, power-mongers.

Kyrie Eleison.

Saint Michael the Archangel,
defend us in this day of battle;
be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray:
and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan and all the evil spirits
who prowl through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Posted by: batb at April 20, 2011 8:42 PM

One thing the Separatist Lib/NDP/Bloc Party left out of their analysis on the Constitutional Rights of Coalitions, is the Ancient Right of the Citizens to Petition the Crown directly. If somebody put this up on Facebook, to use the Lefts tactics. Or directly at the GG's website or his 1-800 number and if enough Western Canadians said no way we will accept the Bloc controlling us through the Libs or NDP, directly to the GG I think he would have to listen to the people of Canada. Or face the worst Constitutional Crisis in the history of Canada. Here is his contacts. http://www.gg.ca/document.aspx?id=325

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 8:58 PM

Mr. Wall rised up...

Posted by: Maikeru at April 20, 2011 9:03 PM

All these parlimentary procedures that he's now talking about were available to Iggy before the election call.
Iggy's playing for a Conservative minority. If that's the result , Iggy now has a $300 million, taxpayer funded , sword hanging over the GG. It's extortion no matter what you call it. Iggy's "serenity" is brought on by the arrogance that the GG won't go for another $300 mil election and will toss Iggy the keys. I hope the GG see's through all this

Posted by: pkuster at April 20, 2011 9:08 PM

Good for Premier Wall!

The rest of you can only wish and no trade for Special Ed either.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at April 20, 2011 9:15 PM

RFB:

I am not sure I understand the point of your "But." since there is a lot of similarity between your thoughts and mine with the exception of the treason part. Like it or not (and it would be very unfortunate if Governor General David Johnston made the wrong decision), the part of the 3 parties stopping Harper from forming government is quite legal. Being legal, it could hardly be treason - no matter how unethical it would be.

My point is that I think the Conservatives, and especially Mr. Harper, are handling this all wrong. Here is the message with which Harper should be pinning Ignatieff against the wall.

1) We concede the legality (but not the ethics) of a group of MPs voting non-confidence to defeat a minority government.
2) However, if you lower the standard of ethics, we will also play by the same rules. Having established these rules, you could hardly object to someone else playing by them.
3) We too will vote non-confidence against a Liberal/NDP coalition. We will easily defeat your government without you having the full support of the Bloc. We will attempt this repeatedly every chance we get until we get an election. The only way to avoid an election is to have the Bloc always vote confidence in your government.
4) What price are you willing to pay, Mr. Ignatieff, to guarantee that the Bloc always votes confidence in your government over the next, say, 18 months? How much will it cost Canada? At what point will you say no to Bloc demands? Do you really believe the Bloc is better for Canada than is the CPC?

Harper is too silent on this. The only way this can work is if the Bloc is 100% in 100% of the time. Full in - all the time.

I would like to think GG David Johnston knows how to analyze a situation. That is why I think a non-confidence vote means a second summer election.

There is also the idea of the "sober second thought" Conservative Senate being able to stall all Coalition bills until an election is called.

Mr. Harper and the conservative media should be all over point 4 above. Why are they silent?

Posted by: Brent Weston at April 20, 2011 9:18 PM

Premier Wall has stepped up to the plate as he always does. He has probably offended the dwindling number of socialists in Sask., but that's OK. Everything the premier does is offensive to that group of bitter, desperate fear-mongers.

For those subscribers to the Saskatoon StarPhoenix, stay tuned for the predictable column from Murray Mandryk where he will roundly criticize the premier. Mandryk's lower lip has been dragging on the ground ever since the Sask Party spanked the NDP in the 2007 election. In fact, Mandryk's antics were one of the main reasons why I cancelled my SP subscription 3 years ago.

Brad Wall could abolish the PST, discover and freely distribute a cure for cancer and lead the Roughriders to their 4th Grey Cup, all on the same day, and Mandryk would complain that the premier wasn't doing anything to secure an NBA franchise for Moose Jaw.

Posted by: biffjr. at April 20, 2011 9:20 PM

I wouldn't under estimate the effect of our Premier's comments on this matter. He is very respected Canada wide and his comments will not go unnoticed.

Western Canadians, in particular, need to take heed.

There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to be gained in Western Canada by voting either Liberal or NDP. I hope voters in Wascana will take heed.

Posted by: a different bob at April 20, 2011 9:27 PM

Thank you Premier Wall and thank you Kate for all you do.
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Posted by: old duffer at April 20, 2011 9:36 PM

Mr. Weston, my point was that yes in the Westminister system, a minority government has to always seek the help of the Opposition. BUT never in history and never anywhere in the world has the Westminister system had to deal with a Provincial Separatist Party in the Federal House being given control over all of the rest of the country via 2 other Minority Parties. If it was the NDP and Libs alone fair enough. When they make whoopee with the Bloc, that is the Treason against the People of Canada. The GG had better beware. At dissolution the Libs had 4 MP's west of London Ontario. The Bloc have 0 MP's outside of Quebec. The NDP had a handful in Western Canada. They are playing with fire. On Rutherford on QR77 out of Calgary today, which is one of the top Talk Radio Shows in Western Canada. Albertans were already talking that no way no how, they will stand for the Bloc/Lib/NDP Separtists ruling Albertan's. It is already underway. I think the backlash that is going to come out of Western Canada is going to be the Real Rise Up Canada....

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 9:58 PM

One other point about the GG. He has to remember he is just another APPOINTED FLAKE. His Primary Role is to safeguard the people, in this case during an election when we have no sitting Government. If he makes the wrong call, and a majority of the Folks say it is the wrong call. Now you have a Real Constitutional Crisis. The Prime Minister, is only one of 11 Prime Ministers in Canada. Canada has 11 Parliaments, 11 Prime Ministers, and 11 Heads of State. The word Premier is merely French for Prime. Their is real power in what the Premier is saying and if more Premier's say the same thing, the GG does have to listen, if he has any brains at all.

Posted by: RFB at April 20, 2011 10:06 PM

Those who continue to claim that such a coup would be legal in a parliamentary democracy, please provide examples of parties being rejected at the polls replacing the party with the most seats. Secondly, as others have pointed out forming such a coalition (you can call it whatever but it remains a coalition) with a provincial separatist party whose sole objective is the destruction of Canada, is treason.

As for the requirement for a minority government to accommodate the wishes of the opposition parties, that only works when the opposition parties have the best interest of the country in mind. The Liberals have made it very clear that their one and only objective is to seize power by any means, and they do this at their peril.

Posted by: Alain at April 20, 2011 10:20 PM

I know it's a BS job, Kate, and you'd have to live in Ottawash,(mostly) but I'd support you as an MP even though you don't live in Alberta and you'd be running to represent the riding you're from in Saskatchewan.

Kate for MP!
(then we'd really have the inside skinny at SDA, yes we would)

Posted by: Oz at April 20, 2011 10:24 PM

My sympathies to Ralph Klein in the face of the challenges he is bravely facing. Can only wonder what he would say about how Alberta should respond to the potential for this "Troika Katastrophe"?

Withhold payments to the Feds at a minimum, back to visions of "freeze to death in the dark" for our eastern friends, etc. Agree Danielle Smith shouldn't wait for Edwardo to wake from his lame duck somnambulant state to pre-emptively stake out what the Alberta position would be under a Wild Rose government.

Lot's of good coverage on this again today on SUN TV. Go SUN!

Posted by: ntadatrdr at April 20, 2011 10:29 PM

I can tel you right now I would NOT follow ANY rgulation/law/interpretation enacted under such a bastardised scenario contemplated by our American PM in waiting.

A snowflakes chance in hell.

Posted by: eastern paul at April 20, 2011 10:32 PM

wnmc "Lets not forget the time honoured tradition of crossing the floor" I had thought of this also -- or even a group sitting as independents. I would have thought at least some Liberals would prefer this to the potential chaos that would ensue (from Alberta and elsewhere)with the coalition as it is shaping up.

Posted by: LindaL at April 20, 2011 10:33 PM

Any coalition that does not include the party with
the most seats should be summarily rejected by the Governor General, on the grounds that three bozo leaders who can't stand each other during electioneering are suddenly able to be buddy buddy enough to run a government is simply a preposterous supposition.

Posted by: coue at April 20, 2011 10:44 PM

Thankyou Brad Wall for succinctly and powerfully stating the truth. Brad Weston and RFB both very good arguments.
The bottom line is follow the money. Where is the Liberal party getting all the money for their campaign?

Posted by: Norman at April 20, 2011 10:46 PM

I do not know if you remember, yet one of the first things Harper did when he became PM was to visit the troops overseas in Afghanistan. This was not only a moral boost for the troops, but also for Canadians. I think he should do it again.

If for no other reason than to thank the troops for their sacrifice before the "Coalition of the Damned" gut the defence budget like LIEberals before. Sure the Cons made mistakes with the returning troops, yet on the whole the Cons have done more to give pride back to them. The Cons were the only party that defended the troops against acquisitions of torture of prisoners - which was going on before the Cons got into power – in Afghanistan. [That is how the trem Talaban Jack got his reputation. Also the LIEberal constantly giving troops a bad name.]

It would not be a photo opportunity, as I see it; it would be a thank you from Canadians who still honour their sacrifices. Then he should promise that he would take their concerns to Parliament and pass bills that really help the veterans – they should be treated like heroes, not like they are now [and apologise for their mistreatment when they got home by Veteran Affairs.]

Just a thought.

Posted by: Clown Party of Canada at April 20, 2011 10:47 PM

I'm beginning to wonder if all that Tides Foundation money that the Liberals are burning through isn't putting Count Ziffy MIA too much front and centre.

Of course the other question is, will Elections Canada ever call the Liberals for burning through all that Tides Foundation money?

Posted by: Joe at April 20, 2011 11:35 PM

Perhaps having been exposed to so many "covert" conspiracies over the years...across the globe....I am suspicious.

Why would the opposition defeat a sitting government when all indicators(polls) show the results of an election would be the current statis quo....and has for many, many months?

This is not a recipe for electoral success.

Unless they have real reason to believe the polls are bogus or they have a hidden ace(quisling)....

One scenario not mentioned is what if covertly these troika conspirators have already consulted this new GG....and have his covert blessing?

In a world where the Verona Files idicate that L.B.Pearson was a KGB agent and that Britain's MI5 and MI6 heads (McLean, Philby and Burgess) were Soviet moles....this is not that outrageous....and considering the logic of forcing an election when the poll numbers do not indicate a victory...it is logical.

Posted by: sasquatch at April 20, 2011 11:45 PM

I knew Brad Wall before he was Brad Wall. Well said sir. I am not going to spend a lot time debating the legality of the arrangement put forth by the libs/NDP/Bloq. It may well be legal but I find deeply offensive. Now having said that, I want to forecast what I think will ultimately be the end result of such an arrangement. Financial markets will not like it resulting in a short period of decline. The longer term reaction will depend on how these three parties conduct themselves. If they are reasonable and act to strengthen our finances and limit the size of government, markets will react positively. However, there is little likelihood of this so I predict that there will be a very abrupt end to the current rally followed by a period of stagnation. Ultimately Duceppe will figuratively put a gun to Canada demanding more from the rest of Canada. I believe that the other two will give in. However because of the fragile balance of power this will be too much for a few of the liberals. Ultimately, they will vote for their own survival and defeat this arrangement. We will head back to the polls but this time the choice will be clear. The Libs and the NDP will be seen as having sold out Canada to further their appetite for power. That election will be a referendum by the rest of Canada on Quebec independence. I think Quebec will get their wish to be independent. Time frame? Less than two years.

Posted by: Brian Mallard at April 21, 2011 12:33 AM

I think that the Liberanos are getting their $$ for this campaign from the secret trust funds - mentioned by the AG and PMSH many times - they are beyond the reach of the Ag. These Trust funds (like the Trudeau Foundation) were set up buy the Liberanos during the Crechan/Paulie II years using - wait for it - taxpayers $$. Of course Georgie Porgie is involved.

I thank you all above for the excellent, excellent comments and analysis. Canada has brains and they all are here at SDA. Thank-you Kate for giving the experts a place to speak their minds.

Posted by: Jema 54 at April 21, 2011 12:49 AM

Hey Kate, remember when Brad Wall tossed you under a bus? Heh, that was funny.

Posted by: Jim at April 21, 2011 1:26 AM

It may be time for Alberta to publicly ramp up the Heritage Cheque system again, held in abeyance for election results, to show that Albertan's wealth is not available to the rest of Canada without the express permission of its citizens.

Posted by: cryptic cynic at April 21, 2011 2:07 AM

"Ignatieff may choose to not recognize the democratic result of the election and may try to seize power with the support of the other parties, including a party dedicated to the breakup of Canada, "

hi kate.

remember pierre bourgault the albino separatist? he was yapping away during the hayday of conservative brian mulroney.

I called up the conservative mp and asked why bourgault was given time on publicly supported television (TVO) to spew his hatred of confederation.

came back the answer he's entitled to his political views.

so it seems conservatives are on side with that after all.

Posted by: IP address at April 21, 2011 4:55 AM

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/wake-up-critics-heres-obamas-grand-plan/?singlepage=true

In lockstep with the NDP, LPC, and Bloc's grand plan:

“World governments or governances have been part of the Marxist curriculum for decades, driven by anti-colonialist, anti-imperialist, and anti-capitalist ideologies. At the moment, the driving forces are earthism, enviromentalism, and fear of manmade global warming. (From the ideologue’s perspective, planetary incineration is the ultimate consequence of imperialist capitalism.) The future of the globe and the human race is at stake — and in order to suppress global warming, the world needs special taxes and special tools to regulate industries and modify human behavior. Who will control these new controlling mechanisms?

... The first report of the Club of Rome, published in 1972, introduced to the world the perceived apocalyptic consequences of human activities and human reproduction, and the need to create regulating and controlling political mechanisms. Since then, progressive movements have been trying to implement these mechanisms, like cap and trade or a global tax. ...

Posted by: batb at April 21, 2011 5:58 AM

The Liberals are spending WAY too much money.

Is SORROs backing the Liberals?

Posted by: Helen at April 21, 2011 7:42 AM

"We will head back to the polls but this time the choice will be clear"

And the choice is not clear now? What will it take to get a Conservative majority? There are still too many obtuse, out of touch and downright stupid voters (not in Sask or Alta) in this country to make that a reality.

Posted by: biffjr. at April 21, 2011 8:36 AM

Well Said Mr Wall, Well Said

BTW anyone notice Michael Iffy on the news Trying to change what he said to Mansbridge

Posted by: bryanr at April 21, 2011 8:40 AM

Outstanding letter.

If the opposition claim that 60% DIDN'T vote for Harper, we can say that 70% DIDN'T vote for the Liberals, 80% DIDN'T vote NDP, and 90% DIDN'T vote for the Bloc, or to put it humourously, 240% of Canadians DIDN'T vote for their coalition of losers.

Posted by: grok at April 21, 2011 9:30 AM

Biff, currently the choice is clear to you and me but not to everyone. There is the residue of past smears on Harper that some people cannot overcome. The only way that these people will see the LIB/NDP for what they are is an overt act to subvert the will of the people to undermine our democracy and the stark reality of their capitulation when it comes to Quebec. I hope. If this does not wake them then we are doomed.

Posted by: Brian Mallard at April 21, 2011 9:33 AM

Well put, Brian Mallard. A showdown at the OK Corral is what Canada needs, and the "coalition" disaster—with the power hungry clowns in charge of it, I can’t see it being anything but—will push us closer to that eventuality.

And maybe—just maybe—Canadians will finally realize the betrayal of the left-wing parties in this country and give the Conservatives the majority they deserve. Maybe . . .

Posted by: lookout at April 21, 2011 9:36 AM

In case anyone missed it Special Ed agrees with Brad Wall. He was going to write his own letter saying so but he couldn't find his crayons.

Posted by: Joe at April 21, 2011 9:50 AM

As I suggested two days ago on another thread about the Minority parties contempt for democracy, it also looks like this election is a $300 million leadership review of the Conservative Party orchestrated by the Minority Parties, but financed by you and me.

Posted by: cryptic cynic at April 21, 2011 10:27 AM

"Brad Wall could abolish the PST, discover and freely distribute a cure for cancer and lead the Roughriders to their 4th Grey Cup, all on the same day, and Mandryk would complain that the premier wasn't doing anything to secure an NBA franchise for Moose Jaw."

I luv it!

Go Bulls Go!

Posted by: Wesstern Canada Homez at April 21, 2011 10:49 AM

My anatomy of the Coup. Fairly encompassing:
http://burpnrun.blogspot.com/2011/04/anatomy-of-coup.html

Posted by: burpnrun at April 21, 2011 12:43 PM

"The only way that these people will see the LIB/NDP for what they are is an overt act to subvert the will of the people to undermine our democracy"

The Three Stooges tried, and almost succeeded, in pulling off this stunt after the last election and the voters seem to have forgotten already.

Hopefully, in the event of another Conservative minority, the GG will tell the coalition clowns, in no uncertain terms, to take a hike.

Posted by: biffjr. at April 21, 2011 3:15 PM

You know what? Maybe a coalition would be the very thing this country deserves. Bring us right down past our effin' (that's financial) knees in no time flat. Get it over with.

Might be preferable to this "death by a thousand cuts" thing.

Sooner we get it over with, the better.

How long do you think it would take with those 3 putzes running things? 6 months? A year?

Posted by: Jamie MacMaster at April 21, 2011 3:54 PM

Jaime M

U might be right. Two years ago when people said the same thing about BO I shuddered and disagreed. Looking at the results today (TEA Party) I think you could be right.

That said, I'm not sure Confederation is strong enough to withstand what you prescribe.

Posted by: Wesstern Canada Homez at April 21, 2011 4:44 PM

Maybe a coalition would be the very thing this country deserves. Bring us right down past our effin' (that's financial) knees in no time flat. Get it over with.

You gotta be young and rich to say a thing like that.

How about the CPC wins, the Liberals are swept away like Mulroney's Progressives, and we watch the socialist disaster unfold south of the border as an object lesson that socialism fails wherever it's tried.

Then Canada becomes a 2 party state, with the exception of the BlocHeads(who will wither on the vine without the LPC), and every election henceforth is a clear choice between Conservatism and a Canadian flavoured re-enactment of the Obamanation.

Black and white, good and evil.

How about that?

Posted by: Oz at April 21, 2011 4:55 PM

The coalition is constitutionally legitimate. However, it is only proper in the case where the politicians are truly reflecting the will of the citizens living in their ridings. A cabal of progressive party leaders reflects only their desire for power and control. I would bet many Liberal voters would NOT support jumping in bed with Jack "subsidized housing" Layton and the Socialist Blocheads. I doubt they will be asked their opinion, and if they freely provide it it will be ignored like Climategate and the Chretien/Martin theft of $50+ billion from EI.

The Liberals are pushing the "it's legitimate" meme but really, do you believe them?

Posted by: Marko at April 21, 2011 5:54 PM

Anything anybody gets away with is legitimate.
They might rule Canada but they won't be viewed as legitimate in Alberta or rule it for long.
Count on it.

Albertans would freak out being ruled by Quebec like that.
Preston Manning built the Reform Party almost soley on Albertan's resentment of Quebec.

Posted by: Oz at April 21, 2011 6:21 PM

Alberta, you do not have a Conservative government; you have a Liberal government wearing blue suites. Wild Rose is the only way to get rid of the rot.

Posted by: Robert of Ottawa at April 21, 2011 6:56 PM

Everyone seems to forget that Harper has the Senate.

Even if the coalition takes over, their first budget won't be approved and we'll head into another election.

Posted by: Jeff at April 22, 2011 1:32 PM
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