February 3, 2011

The Ziploc Rebellion

I'm starting to think that not occupying schoolyards with pitchforks and burning tires is a failed parent-teacher night.

Recently, Felix began crying when his mom went to pack his lunch in a resealable plastic bag. When asked what the trouble was, Felix told his parents that his kindergarten class had had a draw for a stuffed toy, but that he had been excluded from the contest because his teacher had found a plastic sandwich bag in his lunch kit. So he pleaded with his mom not to make him an enviro-criminal again.

Posted by Kate at February 3, 2011 9:16 AM

You'd think so Kate, but it does pay to remember that PARENTS are the ones driving most of this BS. There are places in Canada where it simply isn't safe to be a social or even fiscal conservative. They will beat your kid up. And I mean the other -parents- will beat your kid up.

Which is why I live in Cayuga. Its where all the sensible people moved to when Greater Hamilton became a wretched hive of scum and villainy. Don't get me started on 416 Toronto, they have neighborhood watch checking that your recycle bin is properly sorted.

Posted by: The Phantom at February 3, 2011 9:23 AM

And they say there is nothing woring in this screwy world. Always blame someone else as in the comment from the phantom instead of just saying the teacher is an ---hole.

Posted by: Ron at February 3, 2011 9:37 AM

And they say there is nothing wrong in this screwy world. Always blame someone else as in the comment from the phantom instead of just saying the teacher is an ---hole.

Posted by: Ron at February 3, 2011 9:38 AM

If the world could start fresh w/o teachers, lawyers and government employees one day that would have been another renaissance.

Posted by: Aaron at February 3, 2011 9:39 AM

My wife used to be a nanny for a child with fatal nut allergies, and to ensure no cross-contamination her lunches were always packed with disposable everything.

The child came home in tears one day because the teacher had scolded her in front of the entire class for not using reusable lunchware. A teacher that, mind you, had been made aware repeatedly of the child's condition and the steps that were being taken to keep her safe.

Needless to say, it was the teacher who went home in tears the very next day.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at February 3, 2011 9:41 AM

Daniel, good for you.

This crap is starting to remind me of housing committees they had in the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at February 3, 2011 9:46 AM

It drives me nuts but my dear wife washes and reuses all ziplock bags. Only after the bag splits does she throw it away.

Posted by: Joe at February 3, 2011 9:57 AM

Let's ban all the teachers who are not "Green"

Teachers who drive cars . . . banned

It would a long list with a lot of uber hypocrites banned.

Posted by: Fred at February 3, 2011 10:00 AM

If that was my child, his lunch pack the following day would have the sandwich quartered and placed in 4 bags and the fruit would be grapes,50 of them.
My child would have been told that the teacher was a bully and that yes, teachers can be bullies too. I would then pop in on the class and HUMILATE the teacher as my son was pulled from the school. This story is disgusting!

Posted by: Bec at February 3, 2011 10:01 AM

The parent should have double wrapped the next sandwich and then gave the kid two teddy bears to take to school. One would be for himself and the other he would draw names from everyone who brought their lunch in disposable bags the next day.

Posted by: Chad at February 3, 2011 10:04 AM


You make me jealous as hell.....I bet my old drill sargeant would be proud of are a signal role model to all of us.

This reusable nonsense with grocery bags is another facet of this insanity.

The coming of disposable food wrapping, totes and zip-lock bags represents a major advance in food hygene....anyone who has taken BIOLOGY 101 knows this.

Come to think of it how many of these green loons know how to wash dishes properly.

Commercial diswashers besides using potent cleansers utilize superheated steam and water.
These conditions are not reproduced in domestic dishwashers.

I wash dishes in the good old fashioned way. This is why I wear rubber gloves out of necessity and very hot rinse water(with a dose of bleach--sodium hypochlorite).

This does not make me a Howard Hughes style paranoid----just pragmatic.

Posted by: sasquatch at February 3, 2011 10:05 AM

There is an upside to this. First, the kid is being toughened for the fight ahead of him. Second, he is learning to recognize the enemy. And third, he is getting a lesson in coping with the classroom bully, who in this case is the teacher.

Posted by: albertaclipper at February 3, 2011 10:07 AM

Ron, not excusing the teacher, just being clear on the source of the problem.

School isn't treating your kid right, PULL-THEM-OUT. Even here in Cayuga school is not a good fit for some kids, the gifted ones particularly. Oddly enough.

You get a large percentage of people pulling their kids out of school, pretty soon that's a problem for the school board. They get paid by the head. No heads, no money, layoffs and school closures ensue.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease my friend. Start squeaking. That's how the Lefties took the system over in the first place, they were the ones that showed up for the meetings. You want to beat them, you have to show up or do it yourself at home.

The fun will start when the Liberals make public school attendance -mandatory-. That's when the rubber is really going to hit the road.

Posted by: The Phantom at February 3, 2011 10:16 AM

IMO reusable containers are *more* wasteful. They don't last forever, and there's a lot of plastic in them. Besides, the same people that want reusables used are buying water or worse, "vitamin water" in disposable bottles.

Posted by: wendy.g at February 3, 2011 10:33 AM

Redistributing money to Quebec from the proceeds of the oil industry, from which plastics are manufactured, is bad for the political environment of Canada.

Posted by: set you free at February 3, 2011 10:39 AM

just wondering which are worse: the young freshly brainwashed eco-fascist militant teachers or the older socialist teachers? or are they equally as bad??

Posted by: Soccermom at February 3, 2011 10:42 AM

When my sister was in grade 3 she got the same teacher that I had and knew to be a bully since she bullied me when I was in grade 3 five years earlier. The bullying picked up when my sister 5 years down the road got the same teach.

Anyway, the school at the time had a fund raising lunch and ordered in McD's. My little sis didn't like McD's cheeseburgers/hamburgers which was all you could order. McD's at the time though still sold their "pizza" and that's the one thing my sister would eat from there. However the school would not order a pizza for her.

My mom not wanting to have her left out went and bought a single pizza from McD's for her and dropped it off. All good right? Actually no.

The teacher for whatever reason decided that it was not fair to the other students (read: psycho!) and made my sister go sit in the school office to eat her pizza. Mom got a call about it.

Now there's one person that I feared above all when I was young, and that was my mom when she was angry. My nickname for my mom was "the bitch" for a reason, anything could set her off. The fire and brimstone that she unleashed on the school and teacher was spectacular (think grizzly bear and cub).

The reprimand was something else and school did a formal apology to my sister. I'm not sure what she said, or did, but the teacher as I know had a huge attitude adjustment after that.

No more social engineering for her!

Posted by: theredsuit at February 3, 2011 10:44 AM

The teacher should be prohibited from emitting CO2...

from respiration.

Posted by: POWinCA at February 3, 2011 10:47 AM

Our kids school is "waste-free". They are not allowed to throw anything in the of course they bring their garbage home and throw it out here....LU-NA-CY.

Posted by: jcl at February 3, 2011 10:47 AM

Well, I guess it is time to remove the condom machines from the schools, after all, they are made of either plastics or rubber trees. Maybe we could get a rebate if returned?

Posted by: larben at February 3, 2011 10:48 AM

Kids nowadays are inundated with anti-bullying messages. Signs urging kids to report bullying are p;astered throughout schools and even inside school buses. Yet, in this case, it is the teacher who is the bully.

Bullying a child is the height of cowardice and this teacher should be dismissed forwith. However, since we all know that won't happen, the teacher should be publicly humiliated and ridiculed mercilessly.

Bad behaviour should always have consequences.

Posted by: biffjr. at February 3, 2011 10:52 AM

Hilarious Larben!
And they're not reusable.

As someone else said, I wash my ziplock plastic bags and reuse and reuse.

Posted by: gellen at February 3, 2011 10:56 AM

Felix, stop crying boy! Toughen up! You are learning very valuable lessons in this school: there are systems, ideologies and crazy people en mass that require you to either stand up or go around (these video games where you fight evil creatures and zombies will help you).
Felix, you are going to grow to be a man and remember what H.L. Mencken said: "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."

Posted by: xiat at February 3, 2011 10:58 AM

So now teachers are interferring in personal choices. A significant lawsuit against the teacher, the school and the board itself is well in order.

The teacher is a fascist....pure and simple.

Posted by: Joey at February 3, 2011 11:10 AM

When this sort of crap happens to my kids I use it as a learning opportunity to teach them about subjects like totalitarianism.

I also use it as an opportunity to teach them how to question the world around them, and to think for themselves. In addition, I use it to teach them about hypocrisy.

Funny thing is, many of these people who say don't use a plastic bag for lunch are the same people who will get in an SUV and go to the ski hill for the weekend. This is why for example Al "the-lying" Gore no longer takes questions in public forums, because the stench of his hypocrisy is so strong that he can no longer run from it.

Posted by: TJ at February 3, 2011 11:23 AM

I once got beat up in grade 1 for losing my place in reading circle.

those soul destroying gawdawful dick and jane books with sentences of 1 word.

I read ahead and by the time it was my turn I was out of sync with. the. rest. of. the. class.

thus at 6 years of age I was criminally assaulted for having already mastering the first of the '3 Rs'.

I could have read the whole fcuking book out loud cover to cover but nooooo, little beagle must instead be 'made an example of'. naturally the teacher's pet escaped similar treatment.

otoh when it was *my kid* in grade 1 I mosied over the the principal's office one day, told him if any teacher EVER laid a hand on my kid, I would beat THEM up, beat HIM up and anyone who intervened. Crissy was the youngest kid in the entire niagara regional education system. we were living in thorold at the time and their enrollment cutoff was the end of february instead of december. she made it by 1 day. youngest one in the whole region.

now she does web design for the feds.

Posted by: beagle at February 3, 2011 11:38 AM

It has nothing to do with green this or that; green is just the newest catechism veneer of socialist group think.

Education faculties are sausage factories spewing forth low level indoctrocrats to warp the next gen into accepting big brother as necessary overlord and savior.

Of course eventually they will become true madrassas when the real 7th century 'conservatism' takes over.

Posted by: eurefugee at February 3, 2011 11:48 AM

Heh... I came across this " Litterless lunch tyranny": last January at my school and blogged about it then....

"Oh goody...So now we have a teacher run agenda, that will put a specific special interest group in a position to "monitor" their fellow students to see if they are complying and appropriately accepting peer pressure programming to modify their own behaviour. Thus at an early age reinforcing the idea that one should sublimate themselves to the dictates of a special interest group and peer pressure.

I don't think so........

Parents we need to take back our schools.

Posted by: The Grey Lady at February 3, 2011 11:56 AM

beagle, I can read Dick and Jane too!

Seriously, you went to the pricipal's office and threatened him and the rest of the staff with physical violence, just by way of saying hello? And you weren't arrested or anything?

Posted by: Black Mamba at February 3, 2011 11:59 AM

My apologies if it is rude to plug my post here, I just didn't want to bore folks who weren't interested in how we handled this situation.

Posted by: The Grey Lady at February 3, 2011 12:02 PM

I'd just like to jump on the dogpile here by stating the obvious and say that when the elementary schools are almost entirely run by far-left feminazis, whaddaya expect?

Programming the future society is WHY THEY GRAVITATE TOWARDS EDUCATION. Ways of fighting this include making it easy and cheap for parents to move their kids to private schools, banning teacher's unions and reforming the university educators' curriculum. That's about as close as you can get to 'hoisting the black flag' today.

Posted by: koshka at February 3, 2011 12:08 PM

All the ingredients in plastic come out of the ground.
It is fitting that the plastic is returned to the earth whence it came from.
If it came out of the ground and goes back into the ground it's a complete cycle.
Recycling at it's finest.

Posted by: Oz at February 3, 2011 12:20 PM

beagle is a great hero... in his mind. Which is in his mum's basement.

Posted by: The Phantom at February 3, 2011 12:53 PM

There would be no problem with landfills if they would simply do the sensible thing, ie burn garbage in large incinerators. The incinerators could then be used for electrical power generation and the ash would also produce useful materials. Of course, the greenies' heads would then explode because the incinerators would produce deadly carbon dioxide, as well as equally dangerous dihydrogen monoxide. Well, I guess you can't win either way.

Posted by: albertaclipper at February 3, 2011 12:56 PM

And while we are on the subject of schools, don't even get me started on what schools are trying to do to boys today.

These green nazis are just small fry compared with the anti-boy agenda.

Posted by: TJ at February 3, 2011 12:57 PM

I'm in the age group where many of my friends are in BEd programs and they're all NDP with a smattering of Liberals.

Be careful out there.

Posted by: safety forced at February 3, 2011 1:00 PM

Home schooling is the Black Flag today my friends. Not just for fringie fundamentalists anymore, but also for parents who want their kids to learn physics. And math, and spelling, and history, and geography, and Latin, and SHOOTING, and kung fu, and piano...

Shut off the TV and you can cover a whole week of school in one evening. Seriously. Ontario schools are the biggest rip-off going these days.

Posted by: The Phantom at February 3, 2011 1:02 PM

Re larben's comment about condoms.
Sounds like it would be entirely appropriate for said teacher to be wearing one.... on his/her head!

Posted by: Snagglepuss at February 3, 2011 1:02 PM

First of all there are no federal, provincial or civic laws against using plastic bags for the purpose of handling or containing food item for lunches. If I was the parents of this child I would go after this teacher with both barrels loaded. Since this kid was discriminated against for not breaking any laws I would have this bitch dancing in front of a HRC court. I'm not in favour of these HRC kangaroo courts but......

Posted by: Shawn at February 3, 2011 1:05 PM

There would be no problem with landfills if they would simply do the sensible thing, ie burn garbage in large incinerators.

I agree.
But there isn't any problem with landfills other than that the Gaia Worshippers don't like them, which is the same reason we don't have many incinerators.

Posted by: Oz at February 3, 2011 1:07 PM

Whenever another story about public school moonbattery emerges, I think of this fine fellow:

Posted by: felis corpulentis at February 3, 2011 1:14 PM

Austro-Lib bore, here.

Well, this shit simply wouldn't happen in free market schooling, would it?
There is absolutely no financial or moral basis for government monopoly schooling today (if ever there was one).

Absent abolishing government schooling we need, not vouchers, but embedded tax refunds for parents choosing homeschooling or private schooling.

In a free market, each school would present a prospectus to the buying public. Parents, for example, who actually wanted their children to learn stuff and who didn't want their children indocrinated into green-fascism, would choose accordingly.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at February 3, 2011 1:31 PM

Same crap at my daughter school, although no prizes. She also got scolded for drawing a picture of me with a gun, despite me being an avid shooter. I’m going to enjoy taking her shooting this summer so she can report back to class how much fun that she had.

Posted by: Colin at February 3, 2011 2:10 PM

Colin @ 2:10

Reminds me of what happened to my kid for wearing a t-shirt with NRA and guns on it.

Crap didn't fly was well as hoped for but the lad got an apology from the school for it.

Posted by: Curious at February 3, 2011 2:25 PM

On the subject of plastic, have you seen this video of the Japanese guy who converts plastic waste back into oil? I think the claim is that it takes 1 kwh of electricity to make a liter of oil. To me his machine looks a lot like a flux capacitor.
The clip is in Japanese but it has subtitles.

Posted by: catch22 at February 3, 2011 2:29 PM

beagle, here we don't mind if you read ahead in Dick and Jane. You could even try reading a different book, in fact we suggest you try something at a higher grade level. ;)

Posted by: WalterF at February 3, 2011 2:56 PM

"Seriously, you went to the pricipal's office and threatened him and the rest of the staff with physical violence, just by way of saying hello? And you weren't arrested or anything?
Posted by: Black Mamba at February 3, 2011 11:59 AM"

well mamba, let me put it this way; so its ok to do to a child what doing to an adult gets you up on criminal charges?

but of course, 'corporal punishment' is a cornerstone of the right wing view isn't it.

p.s. speaking of things burning, lets all gather up the remaining copies of dick and jane and have a book burning.

I'll spring for the kerosene.

Posted by: beagle at February 3, 2011 3:40 PM

With you 100% on that Colin I am fortunate that I live in an area that has only mildly been affected with the insanity(Idaho)and I am thankful for that every day when I see this type of article.

Posted by: PaulID at February 3, 2011 3:42 PM

On a similar subject. I was listened to AM640 this morning going on about how professors from, I believe, York University (where else?) are recommending kids playing soccer should wear helmets and the goal posts should be padded so no one gets a boo-boo from this great, inexpensive game.

They never f&*^%$* stop!

I put all this PC crap down to the massive government bureaucracy that just tears apart the fabric of society because there are so many with nothing really to do except interfere with our lives.

Posted by: dave at February 3, 2011 3:55 PM

Beagle: but of course, 'corporal punishment' is a cornerstone of the right wing view isn't it.

Actually not so much. Lacks something called imaginative parenting skills. But to be honest I would rather give my child a wee tap on the rump then a diagnosis and psychotropic meds everyday for the rest of their school career as some parents do in a vain effort to make all children carbon copy compliant to the Borg like behaviours expected by today's school institutions.

I also have to agree with TJ, the anti-boy attitude of schools is disgusting and damaging to anyone who has an once of free thought or energy.

I am sure public school is a darling place to raise girls that love to play dollies and tea party dress up and little else.

Posted by: The Grey Lady at February 3, 2011 4:22 PM

I have a question: how much effort could teachers exert in actually teaching instead of browbeating children?

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at February 3, 2011 4:59 PM

Colin, I once taught a class wherein the students had to draw a form of transportation (car, truck, ect). One boy drew a reindeer. We thought he was the shrunken child form of Santa. How else does Santa travel? :)

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at February 3, 2011 5:02 PM

Osumashi, teachers cover this peripheral junk, ad nauseum, because it is easy - no real teaching involved (better yet, no formal assessment, just bullying). It kills off a good part of the day so they don't have to spend time on teaching the core subjects most of us, with children in school, care about - reading, writing, science and math. Moreover, it makes teachers feel good - doing their part to save the planet for the 'children'.

The worst of it is, as this example proves, they abuse children who do not have enough understanding of a situation to know whether or not what 'teacher says' is in any way accurate, by introducing information beyond their level of cognition. (Maybe it is beyond the teacher's level of cognition, too.)

The struggle of boys in the public school system is a problem. See the following:§ion

Unfortunately, it is filled with the usual edubabble (and of course, fingering parents) but at least they have recognized that there is a problem.

Posted by: Jan at February 3, 2011 5:33 PM

Oh, I forgot to add to the soccer recommendations that balls should be made lighter and inflated at lower pressure to lessen head impact. Due to the number of eye injuries resulting from ball contact, eye protection would also be advisable, they say. They also suggest organizers consider matching players based on size and weight, not just age, to make collisions less jolting.

Read more:

Posted by: dave at February 3, 2011 5:43 PM

I find it hard to understand why so many parents still trot their children off to government schools. Schools don't teach anything that you can't teach them at home.

Libraries, distance learning and the internet have made schools unnecessary.

Posted by: kdl at February 3, 2011 6:43 PM

I find it hard to understand why so many parents still trot their children off to government schools.

Many parents don't have any problem with their kiddies being propagandized at public school.
Also many households need to have both parents working so no parent is home to school their kiddies.

Hope that helps.

Posted by: Oz at February 3, 2011 6:59 PM

Jan, agreed.
However, there are some wily kids out there.
I teach Catechism at my church to public school students. They had no idea why Halloween would be cancelled in lieu of "Orange and Black Day". As much as they thought the idea was ridiculous, they were powerless against it.
We cannot put so much power into the hands of one idiot (as someone I know once put it).

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at February 3, 2011 7:23 PM

Osumashi, my favourite (from a friend) is, "They spend so much time with children, they become childlike."

Posted by: Jan at February 3, 2011 7:51 PM

Here in Dear Leader Dalton's green/broke Ontario teachers are now instructing their class to go home and unplug TV's, etc. to save electric energy.
Do they get a tingle up their leg with nonsense like that?

Posted by: The Glengarrian at February 3, 2011 8:59 PM

beagle, I think you may have missed my point just ever so slightly. For the record - I assume somebody is keeping a record? - I don't think anyone should hit children. I mean, look how you turned out. (It's a joke, beagle. Don't freak. Happy Chinese New Year!)

Posted by: Black Mamba at February 3, 2011 9:10 PM

Yet another argument for abolishing the state monopoly on education. I'm fed up with my property taxes subsidizing this totalitarian crap and might do something about it. What is needed is to get people who are totally pissed off at what goes on in the schools today to start running for school board positions. It would be so satisfying to see the dismantling of the statist indoctrination system using this approach. A fantasy right now, but doable with school boards suggesting that parents send their kids to private schools or home school them and then shutting down the under utilized schools.

Posted by: loki at February 3, 2011 9:47 PM

Beagle you remind me of my old man....

However Grade 5 involved this guy who delighted in slapping kids about. I told my old man. He told me to deal with it or he would.

Next day, the fool whacked me over the head with a book...just on a whim. I jumped to my feet and his hand came around quick. I grabbed it and busted 3 fingers.....
1 room school was over for the day. Repercushions? Next day first thing a delegation of dads were present....just observing so they said......My old man wasn't among them.

Dad thought the universe had unfolded as it ought to and cautioned me against taking advantage....
The SOB was right handed....his penmanship never quite recovered.......
I found I could intimidate the creep just by looking him in the eye.

I learned later he had been a school yard bully.....

Posted by: sasquatch at February 4, 2011 12:38 AM