It is not surprising considering that MSM constitutes of 80% left wing supporters that they ignore a Democrat map of the US showing Bush states that need to be knocked off with bulls eye targets, but blame Palin's US map with cross hairs as leading the attempted assassination of the US Congresswoman.

Furthermore the vitriol of Daily Kos or Move on dote org et al is ignored, but Rush and Sean are also to blame for this attempted assassination.

Left wing philosophy has become so embedded in society that it is considered the new normal.

How many car accidents involve teenagers? How many car accidents are the fault of teenagers? How many car accidents are the fault of teenagers according to the teenagers involved?

Modern liberalism is infantile. It never accepts the blame for anything and instead projects all blame on adults (conservatives).

If heated political speech can be blamed for political assassinations, I'm calling out rap music as being responsible for drive-by's, drug abuse and rape...

Good article over at Breitbart

A quick Michelle Malkin roundup of Leftist political violence and vitriol:

http://tinyurl.com/2aucavx

A photo of representative Giffords that the Star won't be showing you.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabriellegiffords/3904501891/

As Tim Blair notes:

It appears that Loughner’s hostility towards Giffords commenced in August 2007. This was:

• One full year before Sarah Palin was nominated as John McCain’s running mate, prior to which she remained largely unknown.

• At least 15 months before Barack Obama’s election, when all civility collapsed and conservatives launched their reign of terror.

• And two-and-a-half years before the appearance of a “crosshairs” map, designed to inspire assassinations after dwelling online for 10 months.

Hillary Clinton uses the Tuscon shooting to suck up to Arabs in aAbu Dhabi

link here:

http://www.nationaljournal.com/whitehouse/clinton-labels-loughner-an-extremist-in-abu-dhabi-town-hall-20110110

Left wing philosophy has become so embedded in society that it is considered the new normal.
Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at January 10, 2011 9:44 AM
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That's the message we're constantly bombarded with...
Without the MsM, they couldn't pretend that it is!

I think this is one of the worst pieces I have seen so far in this war of words over who is to blame for the liberal, conspiracy theorist, and very confused whack-job who shot 19 people in Tucson AZ.

"I'm calling out rap music as being responsible for drive-by's, drug abuse and rape..."

Everything is rap's fault!

Seriously though, I've managed to spin this through a Leftist lenses still sticking to the facts:

This is obviously the fault of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party because they have upset the Marxists living abroad (similar to Islamists) making them react in such a way. Now... we should all know that Marxists are prone to violence (and Islamists) therefore we should not agitate them in any way lest they be forced to act.

That sounds just about right.

Seriously though, I've managed to spin this through a Leftist lenses still sticking to the facts:

This is obviously the fault of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party because they have upset the Marxists living abroad (similar to Islamists) making them react in such a way. Now... we should all know that Marxists are prone to violence (and Islamists) therefore we should not agitate them in any way lest they be forced to act.

That sounds just about right.

All US presidents have been shot from the Left side of the spectrum. the most left president to be shot dead ,Kennedy, was shot by a communist. The rest were Republicans.

Another example of toxic leftard hypocrisy. All the left wing violent loons are viewed as freedom fighters or cause crusaders. Of course the "cause" is to "free" society of conservatives by silencing, banning, outlawing, jailing or - shooting them.

It's all predictable behavior directly from the Leftard Manifesto.

Obviously this was the work of a crazy, schizo person and he was not a Tea Partier.

However, do you think it's a huge stretch, when people heard the news, that they might think he's a Tea Partier?

The rhetoric from the Tea Party, sure makes it sound like an armed insurrection isn't entirely out of the question. For some members, at least.

Go ahead and call me a troll and a commie.

The rhetoric from the Tea Party, sure makes it sound like an armed insurrection isn't entirely out of the question. For some members, at least.

Go ahead and call me a troll and a commie.

Commie troll.

Dear brick60. Okay, you're a troll and a commie. Also not up on your history. All US political assassins have been lefties of one sort or another, trolls and commies if you will, even JWB. That's why it never occurred to us that the murderer might be a tea partier.

brick60 The only talk of revolution are the minority groups. New Black Panthers and La Raza.
A lot of people speak BS. using terms of war but have no idea what it means in reality. The two groups do and to them it is not rhetoric.
The Tea Party is about too much government and too much taxation. Intimidation and violence (SEIU) is kinda on the other team.

I can't help but think of Gavrilo Princip, who was 20 years old and someone who was rejected by both those he despised and those he admired. So he shot someone important. He got thrown in jail for his trouble, and died there while the greatest armed conflict in history raged around the world.

They say he started it.

Mike Mc and Speedy:

In the current climate, and blame the left wing media if you wish, shows people showing up with guns to rallies, signs with Obama in a Stalin uniform or Hitler moustache.

Many in the movement saying: Obama's a muslim, birth certificate is not real, "Don't retreat, reload."

Also take into account that the original Tea Party was an event on the build up to a true armed insurrection.

In this 2011 climate, I'm not talking about the Leon Czolgosz assaninating President McKinley, many people think that perhaps a few Tea Partiers are capable of such violence.

Not much worth arguing about, I won't convince anybody here. But chat to some people outside your bubble of political beliefs and you'll be surprised. Many people take the Tea Party/Palin rhetoric quite seriously and at face value.

brick

The first report was that the shooter was an 'Afghan Vet' which I found very surprising. My first thought when I saw a pic of the hippy freak was a) that don't look like a Tea Party'er; and b) that don't look like a Vet.

also, brick

Saturday's tragedy is a prime example of why people SHOULD be armed at such events. To ensure that this type of behavior is deterred.

brick60; The people in your political bubble believe that 9-11 was a Bush govt thing,and the airplanes didnt knock the towers down but the govt put explosives in the twin towers and they were detonated ,by chance,at exactly the same time as the airplanes hit.Or,maybe,there were fireing buttons on the outside of the towers that the planes hit......and fire doesnt melt steel....and so on.The ACLU can take responsibility for what happened in Tuscon.

Spike 1:

Uh, no I don't believe that. It was Muslim terrorists who hijacked planes and flew them into the buildings. I'm not soft on Islam. In fact, the reason I found and returned to SDA over many years, is because they have a realistic view of the Islamist threat.

Maybe you ought to sharpen your arguments up, based on what I wrote.

I'm not a left winger and/or a kook. I'm a fiscal conservative and a libertarian.

Gun control - to make us safer?

Question: What setting do many of these nuts chose for their cowardly acts?

Answer: An unarmed, utopian university.

Question: Have you ever heard of these nut cases trying this at, say, a gun and hobby meet? A gathering where there are many many guns out in the opened along with amunition and many many individuals who know how to quickly use said equipment. The little perp would not get far.

Even though it's now 48 hours later, it's clear that some have not learned a thing from the terrible tragedy in Tucson. In point of fact, these ideologues are incapable of learning anything. Why? Because feelings of H-A-T-E towards conservatives flows through their brains much like blood flows through their veins.

Let's be perfectly clear about something: If the police find & release documents recovered from the alleged murderer's home that show a hit-list with Sarah Palin in the #2 slot and endless hate-laden pages from the Daily Kos attacking Giffords and other pro-gun politicians, not a thing will change in the minds of the H-A-T-E-R-S. They will find a way to spin things to support their truly sick and disturbed world view. :-(

people showing up with guns to rallies -- in many US jurisdictions, it's perfectly legal to openly carry a licensed firearm. Citing occurrences of same means nothing.

signs with Obama in a Stalin uniform or Hitler moustache -- agreed, tasteless. For every one of those, I can find another 100 that more appropriately express a point. Your examples are the rare exception, with evidence to this point here: http://www.examiner.com/post-partisan-in-national/ucla-study-most-tea-party-signs-not-racist

Many in the movement saying: Obama's a muslim, birth certificate is not real -- neither are tenets of the Tea Party. Again, read the link provided above. Less than 5% of rally signs touch on Obama's faith/ethnicity, and less than 1% on his birth certificate. Hardly representative, you'd surely agree.

"Don't retreat, reload." -- There's context in everything. This is a quote from Sarah Palin after the passage of Obamacare. It was painfully obvious she was urging people to buck up, and carry on the political fight.

Also take into account that the original Tea Party was an event on the build up to a true armed insurrection. -- true, but apart from the name, the movement shares little else. The modern Tea Party has been around the better part of two years. I would suggest that's a pretty reasonable period of time to conclude its efforts are non violent in nature.

many people think that perhaps a few Tea Partiers are capable of such violence. -- there's nutters in every group. If some leftie nutter shoots some people, you simply don't see the right wing blogosphere racing to score political points with it. Likewise, if a Tea Partier goes on a kill spree, he's not a Tea Party killer, he's a killer who happened to be associated with the Tea Party.

I appreciate the fact you've posted your contrary opinion here respectfully (I'm genuine here, we have too many trolls), but I'm not the least bit swayed by your arguments. You cite examples that are cherry picked, unrepresentative, or red herrings. The Tea Party is a large organization that will inevitably include fringe elements, like any large group. That does not make them representative of the movement, nor is it responsible to suggest same (whether or not some nutter goes of the reservation).

Remember the time when the Liberal Party put up that doctored photo of Prime Minister Stephen Harper being assassinated by Jack Ruby?

It occurred at a time when there was a REAL VERIFIABLE assassination plot againt the Prime Minister by the Toronto 18 Islamic extremists. It was a far cry from political satire.

'Nuff said -- the hypocricy unbelieveable.

Don't forget Scott "kill him, kill him dead" Reid.

"signs with Obama in a Stalin uniform or Hitler moustache -- agreed, tasteless. For every one of those, I can find another 100 that more appropriately express a point."

I think the case can be made that the people who carried those signs were Lefties who went to public events for the photo op in an attempt to smear the Tea Party and provide arguments for Leftists like our guest here today.
Later Tea Partiers cottoned on to these tactics and ran these Mobys(false flaggers) off of following Tea Partys.

Other examples:
-CBS News FAKE TANG memos about George W. Bush on 60 minutes just 2 weeks before the 2004 election.

-Fake Facebook website manufactured just 24 hours ago purporting to be Jared LAughner's site

-Fake list of Jared Loughner's heros appeared on the net just today

-Fake voter registration form purporting to show Jared Loughner was a registered Republican appeared just today on the net(fortunately there are screenshots of the fake which the Leftist counterfeiter has now corrected)had 3 tells:
+wrong spelling of Tucson(spelled Tuscon originally)
+wrong registration district for the Loughner home adress
+Registrar at the Tucson office has publically stated the Jared Loughner was registerd as an independent

The blatant evil of the Left is astounding.

brick Where did I use the word left? If you identified the left it is on you. Groupist!!

Cross Post:

I thought I’d check out David Frum’s weasel organization, No Labels, to get its take on the anti-Republican, anti-Tea Party, anti-Sarah Palin feeding frenzy in the aftermath of the Tucson tragedy. I wasn’t surprised by the hypocritical garbage No Labels has the audacity to spew, in an ever so serious tone, as if its progressive, anti-conservative stance has any credibility at all. Here’s what I sent to No Labels at its web site:

Your statement about the Tuscon tragedy is utterly disingenuous.

There has already been knee-jerk, malicious finger pointing: and, with no evidence (he’s admitted it), Sheriff Dupnik, a Democrat, to whom No Labels ascribes some moral authority here, is actually one of the perpetrators. What about that?

I guess you're aware of the Democratic Leadership Committee’s 2004 map, “BEHIND ENEMY LINES”, with targets on Republican districts, as well as the vicious attacks on Sarah Palin. The attacks are all from the left, which, BTW, is where most of the vitriol is coming from. What about that?

I guess you've heard President Obama’s many incendiary comments about his “enemies”, such as: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun, because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl.” (Philadelphia in June, 2008) What about that?

No Labels seems awfully silent when it’s the left, as usual, dishing out the vitriol. What about that?

I’ve not trusted No Labels’ motives or goals from the get-go. Your rank hypocrisy re this tragic event and its aftermath has altogether confirmed my skepticism. How about getting your own house in order before telling the rest of us how to behave?

If you don’t have a motto for your group, let me suggest one: “DON’T do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”

Hey, how about a Harvard trained Bio-Ethics professor taking out her frustrations on her peers by gunning 3 of the down at Alabama-Huntsville?

Did I mention that she had "accidentally" killed her brother with a 12ga shotgun 20 odd years ago?

She sure sounds like a right wing tea party type of person too.

Funny, her political leanings never seemed to be news. I would guess mainly because everyone agreed that she was a nutcase from the start.

Barack Obama can say, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” We cannot. Those are the rules. It’s just the way it is, and we can gripe about it all we want, but . . .

This ties in rather nicely with my oft-expressed view here that it's trite -- childish, perhaps -- to make arguments like, "if conservatives did this _________" tho, to be sure, they generate long comment threads, which I gather is the main currency of a political blog.

Really! -- these liberal hypocrisy rants are getting old, nay, ancient.

After all, that's what we teach out children, right? Grow up: life's not FAIR, never has been, never will be. Deal with it. Learn the rules, follow them, or get around them when they're unjust.

Wouldn't it have been wonderful if the conservative blogosphere-media simply hadn't responded to that patently insane Palin Did It meme. Haven't we learned by now the impotency of logical argumentation on the left.

Kate: not a "failed" but a untried or under-utilized policy?

Just think, if Loughner had yelled "Alluah Akbar" there would be no news this week.

Hitler right wing?
I never have figured how the MSM has managed to rebrand the National Socialist Party as right wing. They nationalized industries , they incarcerated opposition parties, all hallmarks of the left .

Oz @ 1:57: "signs with Obama in a Stalin uniform...tasteless"

I disagree. Obama's election campaign did in fact use agitprop art from Stalin's era. Maybe his radical supporters thought that nobody would recognize its origins anymore, but there are still plenty of people around who are familiar with the political symbols of the Soviet era.

Something that shocked me personally was Obama's use of the flag of the "Red and Black" ('Rojinegro' in Latin America). They're the international colours of the Communist revolutionary flag -- used by every violent revolutionary Front movement around the world almost without exception. Red symbolizes "blood" and black symbolizes "death". It was in broad use during the '80's by violent revolutions from Africa to Latin America to the Middle East and Far East.

Not everything symbolic of Obama is exaggeration or hyperbole since his own campaign knowingly adopted the symbolism. And after Obama's election his first foreign policy move was to support the deposed autocratic President of Honduras -- Manuel Zelaya -- who breached the democratic constitution with the support of Venezuela's Hugo Chavez to install a Chavez-style Marxist dictatorship.

History speaks for itself.

Haven't we learned by now the impotency of logical argumentation on the left.

It isn't for the benefit of Leftists.
It's for the lurking "undecideds" and to properly arm conservatives so that when they argue these issues in public they can win and influence people who are capable of being influenced.

Heck, people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have been getting their talking points and facts from conservative blogs in the past year or so.

ricardo at January 10 2011 2:30 PM, that was a quote from Colin in Mission BC at January 10 2011 1:30 PM.

That's why it was italicized and had quotes around it.

Oz,
Yeah I know. I was too lazy to scroll up and quote the original.

"My mistake, your fault". ;)

concerned canadian; fish lips Frum was just on Adler with his Kinsella like advice for Sarah Palin, not sure what he said, but I understood his dog in the background, must've been a beagle because he was barking "I'm pissing myself as usual, for sure if I have to listen to you yack out of this radio also, bad enough to my face".

Me No Dh

"Haven't we learned by now the impotency of logical argumentation on the left."

Exactly!

"a wise man told don't argue with fools; cause people at a distance can't tell who is who"~Jay-Z

Me No Dh

"Haven't we learned by now the impotency of logical argumentation on the left."

Exactly!

"a wise man told don't argue with fools; cause people at a distance can't tell who is who"~Jay-Z

It isn't for the benefit of Leftists.
It's for the lurking "undecideds" and to properly arm conservatives so that when they argue these issues in public they can win and influence people who are capable of being influenced.
- Oz

That's a very sound argument Oz. Arming the base (if it's still OK to use this military language). My formerly apolitical wife, who now insists we watch Beck daily, makes that point to my complaint that I'm tired of Beck's preaching.

The usual lefty motto "never let a tragedy go to waste" is very apparent.

Now I see where the phrase "thick as a brick" comes from.

Now I see where the phrase "thick as a brick" comes from.

-----> Good work Andy. Now you need to research the meaning of the phrase "ad homenim argument."

Sorry, spellling error: Ad homonym.

ad hominem.

-----> Good work Andy. Now you need to research the meaning of the phrase "ad homenim argument."

Is it in the dictionary next to the phrase "non sequitur"?

Well, actually merely THREATENING editors with beheading is probably not good enough, unless you have already demonstrated a willingness to follow through. I would be glad to develop a list of appropriate demonstration choices that WOULD get the message across, however...

andycanuck - no, it's in the dictioary next to "ad hominem is hard to spell and also I don't know what it means".

Somebody said, and I can't find it now, but.

Ms. Giffords shooter had a personal problem with her, apparently he was upset with her stand on illegal immigrants, when he asked her about it over a year ago, she answered him in spanish!
IMHO
Looks to me like the shooter couldn't stand having his "understanding" of the rule of law mocked!

William, I believe that the incident you describe happened at a public meeting in 2007.

In his remarks, apparently Loughner expressed his opinion that words have no meaning. Then he was angry that Giffords didn't give a satisfactory answer. Since that time, Loughner held a grudge. (I’m sure Sarah Palin must, somehow, be responsible for this.)

Why bother with all the mess of beheading an MSM editor when you can have the joy of driving the sonsab1tches out of business instead?

Sick of all this! LET "US" LIVE in Peace and QUIET! We the PEOPLE, are NOT to BLAME for the ACTIONS of "OTHER'S"

Sick of all this! LET "US" LIVE in Peace and QUIET! We the PEOPLE, are NOT to BLAME for the ACTIONS of "OTHER'S"