This is all the Tides Canada anti-oil sands funding.

The money comes out of the pockets of two rich spoiled Americans who inherited piles of $$ and think they have they right now to impose their gaia worship on ordinary people who actually have to work for a living.

Tides Canada is a very dangerous organization that needs to be exposed and sanitized.

Vivian does amazing research . . .

http://tinyurl.com/27rtdu7

her blog is worth a daily read.

Until there is push-back, these bedbugs will continue to bite the host. These are self loathing ass-orted poofters and lesbos along with gullible university know it alls, who some pony tailed scraggly bearded earringed proffessor moulded into the worthless little annoyances they are. Government funding, any level, fed or prov., of anything that is not necessary is the problem. Here in Alberta we helped that little homely Toronto actor make some sorry anti oilsands dopeumentary for over 50 thousand. Thanks E.D.

Some, perhaps 15- 20 years ago, Bill Gates run Microsoft without lobbyist in Washington. Eventually it has become so irritating to the politicians that they could not get their hands on any of the huge cash that Microsoft was making.

What happened then was that the politicians had to come up with a way to extract all that money from Microsoft. Suddenly there was talk about monopoly, cornering the market and other assorted charges to make the company look like the dark side in the pristine halls of the US Congress.

And lo and behold, Microsoft took the bait, hired army of lawyers, lobbyist and other freeloaders. As though by magic the charges of monopoly and other such melted away as the snow in spring.

The question arises, does the oil industry give any money to the greenshaft. Is the industry not giving enough? There should be doubt that they are currently in an extortion racket mode. There should be no doubt that the greenshaft are after big donations from the oil companies.

This is not about goodness of badness of Microsoft, it is to illustrate how things work in the real world.

Could be wrong about this, on the balance of things, probably not.

“Rather than see people attack the oil and gas industry, or attack issues, they’ve actually started making these attacks personal,...."

in other words, EXACTLY what types here at sda do. like mazzie and its jab directed at me about levrenti beria.

so it's ok to make it personal if you're on the right wing?

HYPOCRITES.

Can you say lawsuit? The instant these self-hating loathers made it personal, they open the door to litigation......

We can only hope the luddites and cave-dwelling granola eaters get their collective backsides sued off.

Back on the meds now Beagle! maz has instilled more more common sense in his dogs and cats than any self loathing greenpeaceista.

beagle I enjoy your posts, I picture a beagle and I like dogs. But I have to ask, when you picked the name was the beagle coming or going?

I object to the comparison of oilsand tailings to yogurt. Yogurt is nasty stuff.

I would donate to her legal fund to sue Greenpeace.

"To try to compare them to something as benign as yogourt is something that is potentially misleading at worst, and at best, just insensitive.”

After all the "disaster-end of the world" ads Greenpeace does,they have the nerve to call someone else "insensitive"!

Like falling polar bears?

And if anyone wants to mention "hypocrisy", just do a little research into the relationship Greenpeace has with the big Re-insurance companies in Europe,like Swiss Re.

The message Ezra Levant presents of the sulphur oil from California and Venezuela is spreading pollutants in far more egregious manner, than the ever reducing amount of pollutants in a far removed from civilization location, will win any arguement.
Mr. Levant also identifies the need, as brought forward by SDA, to label the source of the gasoline on every gas pump as manufacturers must label their products. Sourcing of terrorist sponsoring countries and sourcing of sulphur oil will identify the good oil and the bad oil.
The fear of the sulphur oil effect on all the vulnerable urban "children, elderly, compromised immune systems; females and societal disadvantaged" needs amplifying.
Gaia takes a back seat to any of the progressive individuals described in the above quotation marks.
Unless of coarse the above quotation marked individuals live in flyover America; the midwest and west of North America. I would also add a few of we Canadians who think their Canada starts at the eastern border of Ontario. Cheers;

Maybe if Ed Stelmach invites a few more glamorous Hollywood rich people to Alberta for free helicopter rides at my expense?

After all, I want James Cameron to be satisfied we're running our industries to his satisfaction.

bartinsky @10:54- You forgot....turtlenecked, elbowpatched/tweed-jacketed.....but otherwise pretty much got it.

I think Ezra Levant nailed it with "Ethicle Oil".

So do the greenies...it has driven them tarpaper(my venerable expression for an insane reaction).

Rationally the Oil Sands development is at it's core an attempt to clean up Nature's biggest oil spill....

Remember all the hoopla( and expense) about cleaning up those more or less benigh deposits of coal tar remaining from 19th century coal gas plants.

As Mr. Levant has made abundantly crystal clear, Oil sands oil companies comply to the strictest environmental guideline there are. Many are self imposed. The industry is constantly searching for more environmentally friendly processes.

This casts a vast contrast between the way the Canadian oil industry works and those operating outside our borders. Canada has never had any oil related eco-disaster and we certainly have never had anything like the Gulf cost or arabian gulf eco-disasters.

Not only is Canada the home of ethical oil but of responsible oil industry. The tiny Marxist fringe railing against the oil sands falls mainly on deaf ears. It only resonates in the echo chamber of left wing media. The vast majority of us "get it". We unapologetically out of necessity use Canadian oil and realize the roll it plays in our lifestyle and economy. We know it is produced with as little environmental disruption as possible. We come to think of these GP agitators as some form of demented hypocrites who still engage in an Oil end user life but denounce the cleanest most responsible source of it.

And Latte sipping pot smoking panty waisting.

Occam

Your reasons are what drives the enviro-nuts mad, as, they reason that it is only a matter of time before an accident does happen. In fact, you could it already has happened.

In July 2007, an excavator ruptured a crude pipeline in Burnaby, spilling 200k litres throughout a residential neighbourhood.

No matter what we do as a society, accidents will happen, no matter what precautions are taken. The key is in limiting them.

The problem with the envirofascists, is that the end justifies the means, they will do whatever, however, to get their narrowminded agenda completed.

And if that means we live in caves, or have our entire paycheques confiscated for the green cause, then that is fine by them.........remember, they are self-appointed, morally superior beings!

Hey Beagle, you've been humiliated by mazz? Where again do we send the flowers?

Oh, you're anon?

Oh, so you never lost actually lost face?

Oh, so you weren't humiliated?

Oh, you're an idiot.

Kevin Libin and Ezra Levant discussed the NP article and more on Charles Adler this past Thursday.
Including a brief discussion between Adler and Levant on Wikileaks and Julian Assange.

If you missed it go to this link:

http://www.cjob.com/other/audiovault.html

And call up Dec 2, 2010 at 2:00pm

The show should be available for "30 days."

@Beagle, the reason why there is no hypocrisy in the post, is here at SDA if someone figureatively bitch slaps you, you get a chance to respond. Greenpeace in using that woman's image, without her permission, does not provide a forum to publically respond.
Greenpeace fail, Beagle fail. Go back to your doghouse now please.

I don't know anyone who would consider the oil sands a clean industry. But for the greenies to get their knickers in a knot over the word yogourt???

"To try to compare them (tailings) to something as benign as yogourt is something that is potentially misleading at worst, and at best, just insensitive.”

You have to be sensitive to yogourt? So yogourt has now fallen under the protective wing of the greenies? Jeez, you have to keep your eyes on everything when you're saving the world. I wonder what other words they own.

"in other words, EXACTLY what types here at sda do. like mazzie and its jab directed at me about levrenti beria."

Note even close Beagle.

Yes we take jabs at each other here, but we keep it at SDA. We don't take it outside and we don't make it personal. Unless of course Beagle is your real name and not a moniker?

Corporate spin doctors (and industry group spin doctors) are almost useless in that they can't get down and dirty and in your face. The forest industry, for example never encountered a land use dispute that they didn't lose, sometimes with great class. And that continues to the present in the Boreal Forest (surrounding the Oil Sands, coincidentally).

Grass Roots organizations can more effectively stand up to the corporate monstrosities of the ENGOs.

Grass Roots organizations (even if funded from cash in brown paper bags from the Oil Companies) can put ENGOs on the defensive where they perform very poorly. Imagine a TV add with an FN Welder from Fort McMurray describing Greenpeace as big business funded by German Auto Workers supplied with Russian Oil. Who's the "suit" now?

Ezra has the right idea putting the alternative suppliers into perspective and on the defensive.

Wow. Bad taste AND full of crap.

What is needed is some independent citizens to form a group to expose some of these individual eco-fascists. Print wanted posters in newspapers and magazines. Name names and the communities where they live. If they are from Kaliforia, expose that. If they are local see how much they appreciate their neighbors knowing that they are trying to ruin our economy. Fight fire with fire.

The ranchers in the oilsands area all want to lease the reclaimed pasture land for grazing purposes, this is never mentioned in oilsands defense literature. If I spill a barrel of oil on my land, nobody cares about cleanup but me, if that same barrel of oil is spilt on a oil lease there is 3 sets of paperwork along with mitigation processes to clean that oil up. Whenever and wherever the dirty lefties have a rally, or demonstration there is always a mess left by these pigs for some decent people to clean up, eg The Mall in DC for Stewarts self idolization show or in Calgary for any number of the piglet shows greenpeace/sierra club have staged. Bill these pigs for downtime, stopping traffic while they disrupted downtown Calgary or cleanup costs at refinerys etc., and soon they will run out of money. As of now these pigs are using the mo of the jehadists, death by a thousand cuts, they are breaking our systems for what, they hardly ever have children to worry about so they will invariably ruin the world for ours, they don't care, they are nothing, never will be.

// And replace them with me. //

Do people know of the lengths the companies go to for the environment? One project maps the location of every plant, every tree. Seeds are taken so the same genetic plant will be replaced in the same spot. Judging by the waste left behind by attendees of lefty events I'm sure I will hear about that.
If I were the boss, when they chained themselves to something I'd leave them there to find their own way home..or starve...or let the people they inconvenience deal with them. I'd call it 'social justice' and watch the fun.

Maybe they should compare it to tofu. I think that would get under their skin even more.

Another classic example of activists destroying their own efforts with their attempts at cleverness. The average person looks at that ad and sees a young person working at her career and attempting to benefit society in a very real way. Trashing her only hurts their cause and further marginalizes them.

While I don't agree with everything posited in the op/ed below, its fundamental point - that liberalism is dead is largely correct.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704312504575618691747039412.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

Liberalism - the modern-day understanding of what that means, not the classical definition - is Marxism-lite (to use the modern vernacular). It was underwritten by the Communist International wing of the CP (AKA comintern) in the Soviet Union from the thirties all the way up until the Wall fell (McCarthy was right - only his methods were wrong). It was an effort focused on the soft-headed education elites in universities and colleges. And its legacy is still most visible among the tenured ranks of those institutions.

Communism/Socialism promised the ultimate entitlement - everyone gets a job, a pension, healthcare, etc. It was all-encompassing and (in theory) it neither excluded nor exempted anyone. This was extremely appealing to the working class elements of western society - particularly Europe and Asia where the landed gentry elites were so conspicuous (they had real kings and queens and emperors who were literally granted wealth and stature by birthright!!).

In response to this temptation to the east, Western European and North American politicians and some industrialists - especially during the wild economic gyrations in the 20s and 30s, (krupp perhaps being most notable as it initiated the greatest public policy mistake since the dawn of democracy - the fixed retirement age (an actuarially adjusted age would have solved a lot of the problems we have today. I digress.) introduced piecemeal several Marxist crumbs - singular entitlements: Minimum wage laws, social security, Me dicare, closed shop union rules, government-owned industrial endeavors (eg - the TVA) that nationalized the 'profits' etc. etc..

The Communist entitlement Utopia - such as it was (watch 'Lives of Others' to get a taste of what that looked like in the wealthiest of all the commie nations) - collapsed in 11/9, 1989 when a crash in oil and gas prices that began in 1986 beggared the Soviet Union, that since the late 20s, when it took control of the Caucasus oilfields from Nobel et al, had been selling that resource for Western cash to pay for the (growing) societal deficiencies a communist system caused. (it is not a coincidence that the Soviets went on an expansionist binge - into Angola (via Cuba), Nicaragua, Afghanistan etc. when oil hit record highs in the late 70' and early 80's)

Because the West was less fully committed to entitlements, it arrived at the financial reckoning later then the FSU did. But it is no coincidence that the most liberal countries in the West had the most generous and comprehensive entitlements (the Common Agricultural Policy in Europe, for example) have hit the debt wall the hardest. The only exceptions to this have been Scandinavia, Australia and Canada as they have used sales of natural resources to bankroll entitlements that, had they no natural resources, would have made their economies insolvent at least 10 yrs earlier (Canada actually did have a solvency and currency crisis in the early nineties after oil prices had fallen below $20/bbl for an extended period.)

Nonetheless, the financial reckoning and inevitable rollback of entitlements has begun and with this the final struggle and eventual death-rattle of modern liberalism.

And the entire world will be better off for it!!

The Dippers with the backing of the sierra club, Greenpeace, and other greenies (and the ever present useful idiots - PCs and Liberanos - bureaucrats) drove all independent Placer miners and Commercial Miners out of the Yukon. The fanatics claimed that the millions of miles of uninhabited land was being dramatically 'impacted' by three or 4 hundred sq. miles of mining activity. All the mines closed, the miners left and the panty waist types squawking in the mine sites moved to Whitehorse where they were hired by the gument. Today the Dipper gument (Yukon Party has a Dipper Premier and he runs the show) is busy kowtowing to the Chinese for mining contracts!!! The Chinese even plan to bring in there own slave labor.

At the time, when the useful idiots were bringing down the independent Placer Miners, the agenda driven wild eyed greenies wanted the placer miners to make the White River run clear. The White River was named the White River because it is and always has been full of silt - the result of the last ice age. There are no limits to the demands and the numb skull politicians who 'buy' the rhetoric are worse that the peddlers of lies, IMO.

I just sent feedback to CAPP regarding to their caving in to Greenpeace. Their feedback contact page is the following website.

http://www.capp.ca/aboutUs/contactUs/Pages/feedback.aspx#1gZL1QOauMHm

One of the best descriptions of the hypocrisy of Julian Assange I have seen

http://tinyurl.com/2dlhnep

Snagglepuss, And just what have you got against tweed? You prefer acrylic or banlon or something? I happen to have a closet full of Harris tweeds, They used to cost about $100 back in the 60's. You can pick them up for $20 at the VV boutique.

The volunteer organization I belong to requires a model release before we can use a photo of one of our people in a press release. I sincerely doubt that Greenpeace got a model release from the young lady whose photo they purloined. I say sue the b@st@rds!

If they compared it to bacon, I would be pissed ... REALLY PISSED!

Yogurt? That's what you feed to the bacon mini-factories.

Hey, can Greenpeace use then image of the lady engineer in their spoof?

It is one thing to spoof as an individual, but this is a corporation (i assume GP is registered).

larben- speaking of the 60's (&70's), I got stuff you can't even give away. But hey, man, I know we're both a couple of real kool kats....But like, chill out and groooove.... (:~D

Oh, and btw, I can find lots of better uses for my 20 bucks.

What amazes me is that no-one has pointed out the primary ecologic problem of the oil sands plants; their reliance on natural gas to produce the heat necessary to liquify the oil. Nuclear reactors would be ideal for this purpose as they produce vast amounts of heat and I'm sure that the waste electricity generated in the process could be put to some use.

If we want to capture international dinosaur awards, then let's go all out with a large number of nuclear plants facilitating oil extraction in northern Alberta. That would not only result in watermelon head explosions, but it would suddenly reduce the "carbon footprint" (if anyone still uses this idiotic measure) of the oil sands, free up huge amounts of natural gas for sale and let us sell electricity at a premium to those US states who are relying on "alternative" power.

Isn't yogourt full of bacteria?

loki- "watermelon head" explosions. You dissing Rider fans?? ;>)

I think the spoof was clever; however, I'm not the one being spoofed. If I were, I would have a different perspective. I'm thankful I'm no-one that is of any public importance, or an advocate in the limelight who targets a project that provides hundreds of thousands of people with jobs.

Given the new software in which anyone who can type can make a movie about any topic or any person, I do not see why people who do not have a really thick skin would want to be in the public eye. One can even become famous when they don't want too, You Tube has proved that. I will be very thankful if I can get through life not ending up on You Tube for any reason.

However, name calling is counter productive in my view, isn't that what liberals do? Anyhow, the Bible has some pretty stern warnings about calling people names, going so far as comparing it with murder. Personally, I have been convicted about name calling the past couple of years, not that I call people names on a regular basis or anything, but I have certainly thought and uttered under my breath "what an idiot" or something to that effect, if only to myself. I am working really hard to stop doing that especially after being reminded by the following scripture that made me wince when I heard it - guilt does that to me.

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Matthew 5:21-22 ESV / 13 helpful votes

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.

The oil industry has to fight back. They have money. Use it or lose it.
Don't trust EDDY the Red. With a 20 percent in the polls support he's so low. Most premiers would have resigned by now. Not Eddy. This guiy is more toxic to you riggers than Obama.
You know what he did when the depression hit.
Hit back!!!!

Beagle:

I am getting old and tired. Rather than spending a lot of time refuting your spurious arguments, I a am just left with one comment.

You are an asshole.

Alberta needs "King Ralph" back in office.
Mr Klein would have shot, shoveled and shut up, on this noise.
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AND THAT MEANS YOU, beagle.
4 Chan - NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY
12 year old douch3
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I cant prove it but someone can. I believe middle eastern oil money is behind the fatwa against the oil sands.If the oil sands were put off the market,the price of crude would rise by at least 25% meaning billions more in their pockets.

I like those ads. Very effective, especially because of the personal commitment from the employees willing to go on and talk about their jobs. It's one thing to criticize Big Oil; it's another to criticize professional engineers and scientists who spent their careers improving on our industries.

Let Greenpeace do their worst -- viewers know who is trying to make the most out of the impact of one of the most important energy resources on earth.