Anybody else get an urge to buy a breeding pair of puppies?

Great vid.

@ Calgary Mark

At least puppies will turn into a loyal animal.

I won't discuss the annoying leg humping.

I couldn't watch it after the "Gay Marriage" pro-evolution crap. Not all conservatives are anti-science,creationists who want the state in the bedrooms and marriages of North Americans. Some of us..gasp! are Deists, Atheists, Agnostics, non-christian!!!!! AAGH!

boooooooring !!!!!!

EVERY political party/business sector/neighborhood/artistic community/bla bla bla has an ELITE.

let me introduce SDA to the conservatist elite, prime minister steve-o harpoon who is DETERMINED to screw our disabled veterans out of needed and earned benefits replaced by one-time lump sum payments and vastly reduced long term support.

but somehow on the right wing, military types are heroes deserving of respect and cooperation.

that is the contradiction within the right wing 'elite'.

Weak religious arguments.

Woof, woof beagle.

Perfect stuff to feed PDS (Palin Derangement Syndrome)

I'm always astounded at how 'progressives' turn to rabid Olberman-like slobbering at the mention of 'conservatives'.

Short version of the video, how liberals think "Republicans bad, Democrats good"

"...[Democrats] have no time for the scientific method!"

"...reality has a liberal bias"

Psalm 27:2-3

2 When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my adversaries and foes, they shall stumble and fall.
3 Though a host encamp against me, my heart shall not fear; though war arise against me, yet I will be confident.

Democrats meet midterm elections...HAPPY CHANNUKAH, MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Dems are just cranky because they don't have anything to celebrate...

BTW I didn't see the Cdn Liberals rushing out to pay disabled Agent Orange vets. They wouldn't even discuss the matter, because they were too busy stealing the treasury blind.

Obviously, they were out there to help people: IE HELP THEMSELVES!!

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North"

Never mind what the guy says. The fun lies in provoking leftie Nazis and this was bang on.

Lost me on the creation-evolution bit. Sorry, evolution is a fact, even if the details of its initial stages are still being worked out.

Don't people ever get tired of arguing the same things over and over again? We should just cut America in half and give half to the liberals and half to the conservatives and see how things turn out.

Not so fast M, I will be dayyam if my beloved South will be cut in half. Now, the North-East Coast and the South-West Coast you can have.

M, there are a lot of fence sitters and undecideds out there.

In America they call them "Independents".
Don't forget the first time voters who are either new immigrant citizens or citizens who have just come of age.
Additionally there are those who are disillusioned and can't articulate why or the way forward.

The neverending argument is a fight for their vote next time around.

That's the problem M.

You would concede half to the 20% that deserves 5%.

The trick is to educate those that side with the 20%, then to eliminate the 20%.

Loved it, so close to real life for her, so distant for him though ... here's how the dialogue would go in the real world:

HIM -- Um, I'm a conservative.

HER -- Do you want to get laid?

HIM -- Um, sure, I guess.

HER -- Then think like me.

HIM -- When can I stop thinking like you?

HER -- When you are no longer needed for breeding purposes.

This thing is awesomely wonderful, and hideously accurate, but it would be better without the anti-evolution stuff c. 2:00-3:05

I intend to forward this to people who may never forgive me.

I didn't really see anything "anti-evolution" in the video. The point being made was that there is a great deal of "faith" among evolutionists (of which I am one) that science will eventually answer the hard questions in a way that completely supports current evolutionary theory.

That's problematic, if you claim your beliefs on such matters are bound by the scientific method.

I'm a creationist, if that's how you prefer to label. I have studied the scientific, physiological, geological and historical evidence to support this.
Drives my liberal friends crazy when I say that, but somehow I predict a more open minded 'whatever' response from conservatives here.
Therein lies another huge difference.

Except for the socon stuff, this would have been very funny

But when I hear creationism being promote, I'm outta there.

If there's any certain way to derail the conservative message, it's to tie it to religion.

Kate - I'm imagining how liberals I know will receive this. "...So you think that your most distant ancestor was a patch of dirt that magically came to life?"

An attentive type, I get the broader argument; my liberal aquaintances, however, will start channeling their imaginary friend, H. L. Mencken, ultra-snidey version.

Briliant thingee though.

I am not sure if this is so anti-evolution(which I am) as it is against the way of thought processing. Whether evolution presides at some level or not, the "belief" in the start of all things is still to contemplate, which is narrated here.

The point of the AGW / Climate Change is basically the same as the Evolution debate.

The scientific method is replaced by faith within the method. It is faith, nonetheless! Sssssame tricksees!!!

I can not speak for any one else but I suspect that basically we are GOD fearing, moral and realistic...like Oliver Cromwell.

TRUST IN GOD BUT KEEP YOUR POWDER DRY!

I regard "Creation Science" as blasphemy more or less. It conjures up the image of the creator flitting about like the fairy godmother, wearing a tutu, waving her magic wand about, at random.

I think this has already been pointed out, but the conservative guy wasn't promoting creationism, he was just pointing out that liberal views are also based on faith.

And another thing... creation and evolution are two completely different things. I believe in evolution. We see it every day in the world around us, but something has to be created to evolve. I know there are many smarter people than me on this board. Can any of them explain how the first living thing came into existence in a manner that doesn't violate known scientific laws. Rocks do not spontaniousley start to breath or self replicate under any scientific rules I am aware of.

Interesting sasquatch.I'm picturing a fairy flitting around helping fish grow legs.
Or trees lay eggs.
Or primordial goo go 'woo hoo'.

Whatever.

The point is the zombie vid portrays the liberal not accepting another way of thinking without being condescending.

Maybe then we need one of these animated stilted discussions between a so-con and a libertarian.

Problem there is, whose beliefs will be mocked and whose driven forward.

Cue the usual 50-50 caucus split once we get to majority government.

Whose fault is it? The other guy's.

"But when you realize it is the other guy's fault, why don't you graciously give in?"

"Why don't you?"

"I will, if you do first."

"How can I trust you?"

"How can I trust you?"

"After we win, we will implement some of your key demands. But first, we must get public opinion on our side."

"How will we get public opinion on our side?"

"By not implementing any of your key demands."

Am I warm yet?

there is a great deal of "faith" among evolutionists that science will eventually answer the hard questions in a way that completely supports current evolutionary theory.

Really? Name some.

If there's any certain way to derail the conservative message, it's to tie it to religion.

Nah, just tie it to what they preach, and then to what they practice.

"Rocks do not spontaniousley start to breath or self replicate under any scientific rules I am aware of."
~minuteman

Behold, wisdom.

Here is a man, there is a rock.
All made out of the same subatomic particles.
One has consciouness, the other doesn't. -spirit-

That said, do you folks realize how small the "Origins" section of that video was?

The larger point was that Liberals/Proggs are never wrong because they think that conservatives are bad and Progg views are unerringly correct.
(regardless of whether they are arrived at by logic or history)

The Progg sees folks as being unable to comprehend their own best interests, and incapable of seeing Progg intervention as helpful.

The she-Progg admits she sees herself as one of the "elites" but the office setting gives the lie to that fantasy.

Here is my solution:
We should try and find common ground with Proggs where we feel that together our hopes don't line up with the path that government is laying out for us.
(yes it's hard because the Proggs trust the government/elites and identify with them)
Do the Proggs and we want to be the captains of our own destiny?
Yes.

Let's not pretend that we are planning a better future for the "anonymous" others who will be the pawns not only of our own imaginations but the government's.
Our destiny is all tied up together, but handing the solutions to our problems to the government is to hire another bureaucrat who is more interested in her job than our problems.
If our problems are solved, then they are out of a job.
People have to solve their own problems, when the problem is solved, nobody is out of a job.

Point out to the Proggs that the powers they gather to the government are powers that the next elected ULTRA-conservative government can wield against them and us too.

Power to the People.
The government works for us not the other way around.
We're working for a living, not living for a working.

If Proggs want people who have less to be given more than these peolple earn, let the Proggs give as individuals until it hurts, but let not the government be the sticky fingered middleman who takes the fruit of our labour and grows government to be the distributor of our fruits to people who will be beholding to the government instead of the individual people who produced those fruits of labour.

Geeze.
What do "Origins" have to do with the price of TEA in CHINA?
Nothing.
The Chinese prefer Coaca-cola to tea these days and where we came from isn't as important as where we're going or where unaccountable remote government wants to drag us to.

promise
If you Proggs want to empower and grow government to the point that it has sway over the minutia of my life, I swear that if people who believe as I do get control of that behemoth, we will use it to bury you.
/rant off

sleep tight

M: "Don't people ever get tired of arguing the same things over and over again? We should just cut America in half and give half to the liberals and half to the conservatives and see how things turn out."

They already did. It's called California, New York, and Detroit.

Look at how well it's working.

I can't believe you missed it! (Although the commenters so far might be too too young to catch it)...The brilliance of this otherwise pedestrian tube is in its penultimate (second to last) sentence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9W5Am-a_xWw
Libs are insane computers!

there is a great deal of "faith" among evolutionists that science will eventually answer the hard questions in a way that completely supports current evolutionary theory.

Really? Name some.

Posted by: phil
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This guy can lay them out for ya
[url]http://www.stephencmeyer.org/[/url]

Insofar as the creation of the universe goes, there is actually little difference between Genesis and the Big Bang. One says there was nothing, and then God created Heaven and Earth and that over time, the waters parted, land rose, plants came, then animals, then man. The Big Bang says there was nothing, and then all of a sudden, a huge explosion, after which the earth was created, its waters cooled, land rose, plants appeared, then animals, then man. The two stories are so strikingly similar that "Pope Pius XII, declared at the November 22, 1951 opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that the Big Bang theory accorded with the Catholic concept of creation."

Now I, and most intelligent people, realize that the Earth's creation took slightly longer than seven days. It's always slightly ironic to listen to "Creationists" (who seem to be disproportionately from the American South) tell you with a straight face that every word in the Bible is true, as they prepare to chow down at a whole hog BBQ. However, it's equally ironic to hear "Scientists" explain that the laws of thermodynamics and the concept of entropy simply don't apply when discussing evolution. There are plenty of holes in both theories, and they are both irrelevant in any event to the major issue, which is determinism vs. free will.

The Liberal view, when stripped bare, is essentially deterministic. Poor people are poor because of their past circumstances (and their parents' past circumstances). They cannot rise above their origins, therefore we must help them via affirmative action and government programs. Criminal justice should be soft and forgiving, because it's not the criminals' fault they are criminals; it's the result of societal influences beyond their control. Money should be taken from "rich" people because they didn't earn it; they were just lucky to get it.

Conservatives believe, essentially, in free will. You can be born poor, but if you work hard and have some ability, you can become rich. You can be born into hard circumstances, but you can choose to obey the law or not. And, once you believe in free will, you are loath to have anyone curtail yours and (usually) uneasy curtailing others.

Now I realize that this is a very broad brush, and there are thousands (millions?) of instances when it's not as cut and dried as I suggest, so please, let's not waste each others' time with a laundry list of contradictory examples. Bernie Madoff, for example, is an example of a "rich" person who didn't earn his money, and doesn't deserve any of it, and while he's in jail, I don't for a moment believe that there aren't thousands (millions?) of others out there who have equally undeserved fortunes and who are walking around free. Our society is rife with imperfections that make categorical statements only generally true.

That said, the unspoken paradigm behind the Big Bang is essentially deterministic - if you put enough molecular billiard balls on the galactic pool table and zap them with enough energy, eventually some will coalesce into carbon-based life forms. That it happened here on Earth is just chance, and we are nothing special.

Creationism (disregarding the literal "believers" of seven days and men riding dinosaurs) says that a free will created the world, and imbued inert matter with this mysterious quality we call "life". Whether this act was only done once, or has been done thousands of times on thousands of planets, cannot be determined at this time, only speculated upon. Yet I find the notion that we were given something special oddly comforting, regardless of whether we are alone, or there are a million other planets with sentient life.

I have written here before that modern liberalism (which, like "gay", is a wonderful word arrogated and turned sour by bitter people) is a philosophy which ultimately worships death. Look at so many "liberal" causes - abortion (death), euthanasia (death), rationed medical care (death), climate change (with Fruit Fly et al's insistence that the Earth's population should be cut to 1-2 billion people - MASSIVE death), questionable sexual practices (death), unrestricted recreational drug use (spiritual death, followed by physical death), rejection of religion (spiritual death), rejection of patriotism (spiritual death) - I could go on, but it gets depressing.

Unfortunately, the liberal attitude is the logical outcome of the deterministic cosmology. If we're just here by chance, when we die, we really do go from "ashes to ashes, dust to dust". The "soul", insofar as they allow the concept, just vanishes. Death is where we are all going anyway, so why fight it?

That's not a philosophy I want to live by. It's not what I want my daughters to live by. It's not what I want you to live by, even if I don't know you. It's a grim, hopeless, depressing way of life, much beloved by chain-smoking French philosophers. Taunt me with "flying spaghetti monsters" as you will; I prefer a world of free will, life, and hope.

Well said!

Now I, and most intelligent people, realize that the Earth's creation took slightly longer than seven days.

Well, scripture is written on a grade 4 level, trouble is "most intelligent people" outsmart themselves and take the long way around. Heaven and earth was created, period. Then the earth became void and without form. Hebrew is tohu va bohu. That is the time all fossils belong too. Flesh man not in the picture yet.

That be said, most conservatives, other than the Biblically literate ones, will grow, old, tired and bitter going around cutting off the tails of the serpent. Everybody knows you can't kill a snake by cutting off it's tail (Metaphorically speaking, of course). Only Christians know where the head is. And the Biblically literate ones know everything is unfolding exactly as written.

The modern liberal really does believe in Plato's Republic. The sqawking masses must accept what their superiors know is best for them.

I believe God created us through evolution. He has a lot of time.

KevinB, well said. that was brilliant!!

fiddle and Karl the Krud sum it up in a nice concise precis.

Thanks KevinB, well written.

I do think you miss a significant point. It is wrong to assume the Big Bang is random. We don't know. Even if it is, it does not make our existence less significant or important, in fact it might just do the opposite.

What it would mean is that no higher power is looking out over us, protecting us from our own stupidity or cleaning up after us. We need conservative principles more than ever in a world that is without an all-powerful arbitrator in the sky. There is no one to borrow from, plead with or ask forgiveness. It is all on us. We need the rational sober lessons of conservatism to save us from ourselves.

I think we can all agree that if there is a God then it/he/she would read small dead animals!

Lethbridge; if he/she/it does then we're ALL in deep doo-doo!

'Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.'
:)

"I'm sorry Dave I can't do that"

Brilliant end to an enjoyable clip

Thanks KevinB.

'Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.'
Daqninvan, thit is one of the most unexpected and hysterically funny comments I have read for a while. With or without your permission LOL I plan to use it in the future...

I think this has already been pointed out, but the conservative guy wasn't promoting creationism, he was just pointing out that liberal views are also based on faith.

Which just isn't true when it comes to evolution vs. creationism. There's a large gulf between positing hypotheses that are subject to research, testing, and confirmation/rejection, and appealing to the supernatural for explanations.

Anyway, aside from the quasi-crastionist silliness this was a pretty amusing video.

Even if you don't believe in creation check out Canadian scientist Ian Juby's creation videos on YouTube. In one of the later video's he translates the oldest known lanquage (Chinese dialect). Really interesting stuff.