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November 29, 2010

Y2Kyoto: They Won't Be Satisfied Until We're Dead

Global warming is now such a serious threat to mankind that climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions.

Capital idea! Let's begin by closing the universities. (Related: After which, we shall criminalize concerts!)

Posted by Kate at November 29, 2010 1:53 PM
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Follow that up with shutting down newspapers immediately. There is no need to print information on dead trees anymore.

Posted by: ward at November 29, 2010 2:00 PM

Journalist mobbed by Enviromentalists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB2EoBfCFB0&feature=player_embedded#!

Posted by: RFB at November 29, 2010 2:05 PM

Neuvo-feudalism You must live like peasants so my lifestyle is sufficiently exhalted. You must ride the bus while I am driven in a limo. You must forego flight so I can arrive 20 minutes before my plan departs. You must turn down your thermostat while I heat my 5000 square foot mansion and two vacation homes.

Posted by: JB1000 at November 29, 2010 2:08 PM

I suppose Dr.Megele Suzuki has the full ensuite and private jet to CanCun so he doesnt have to mingle with the lesser hoipolloi.

Posted by: cal2 at November 29, 2010 2:08 PM

Starting with the Regina Leader Post.
In the Viewpoints today Nov. 29.
Re article by Janice Kennedy Ottawa.
Seems like people like her are really afraid when Canada gets "Fox News - Canadian Edition".
Finally people will have their eyes and minds open to see what goes on in our country like the Americans have found out. Funny that most Americans have a "conservative" point of view but she calls them stupid and ignorant.

Posted by: Joh at November 29, 2010 2:08 PM

Why is it that scientists opine on so many things that are not science related? AGW, gotcha, now shut-up! Just as you disregard what us regular folks think about the science of AGW; we, will simply disregard your economic demands.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 29, 2010 2:09 PM

Ah, the scientists, the same ones who told us that the ancient Egyptian civilization has built the pyramids.
My 13 year old son calculated how long it would have taken them using my university textbooks on construction and we laughed: if they had 380V power lines, they would still be working on assembling the bottom layer.

So scientists bear credibility here, wink-wink.

Posted by: Aaron at November 29, 2010 2:16 PM

Chicken Little, meet Joseph Goebbels. Herr Goebbels would like to hear more about your crisis.

Posted by: Mike McCormick at November 29, 2010 2:19 PM

The comments on the Bono story are priceless! "Stop clapping you evil bastard!" lol

Posted by: Thomas_L...... at November 29, 2010 2:28 PM

There's a very strong correlation between one's contempt for capitalism, and their fabricated belief in the theory of anthropogenic global warming. It's never been about science. It's about putting down consumerism.

Posted by: Alan at November 29, 2010 2:39 PM

"Unless emissions are reduced dramatically in the next ten years the world is set to see temperatures rise by more than 4C (7.2F) by as early as the 2060s, causing floods, droughts and mass migration."

Temperature now -7. Temperature after doomsday scenario -3. Still too cold. Screw off!

Posted by: Howie at November 29, 2010 2:46 PM

Class action lawsuits have to be started against ALL the liars involved in SCAMMING the world with this money theft. Are there no lawyers with enough desire to have their names go down in history as the ones responsible for making these SCAM artists prove their blather in a court of law? Think of the noteriety and MONEY to be made having Maurice Fat Al and Suzuki squirm in the cross examination while the judge asks, during a blizzard. Where is this globall warming Mr Gore? Prove your position to the court.

Posted by: bartinsky at November 29, 2010 2:47 PM

It's funny - I was just talking to someone about the silliness emanating from universities. I wrote:

Frankly, I think we expect too much of our educational system; we expect teachers to be able to inculcate learning by means of a system designed to frustrate it.

The fact is, elementary school is a daycare run by smart-alecs. The smarter boys and girls are taught how to separate materials for recycling, and how to wash their hands properly.

High school simply trains you to fill out forms and vote Liberal.

University gives you training for a career in the civil service and inevitably crushes all but the strongest minded students into a reflexive leftist ideology, protected by an unbreakable wall of cognitive dissonance. University graduates are incapable of smoking and will only drink fair trade coffee.

Business minded students can opt to go to a special sort of finishing school, where they learn buzzwords, corporate groupthink, and advanced PowerPoint. This is called an MBA, and it allows you to find a job working in a bank or in advertising.

Once you understand that you will find that our educational system is working exactly as designed.

Posted by: Chris Ivey at November 29, 2010 2:56 PM

"...and replace old electrical goods like huge fridges with more efficient models."
And who's going to make the new high tech ones? Who will be able to afford to buy them?

It'd be a lot simpler to just put the more corpulent amongst us on a diet...
http://media.photobucket.com/image/al%20gore/fizzzay_money/Al_Gore.jpg?o=5

Posted by: DaninVan at November 29, 2010 2:57 PM

"climate change experts are calling for Second World War-style rationing in rich countries to bring down carbon emissions. "

NO. Now F*** off and quit bothering me.

Posted by: dmorris at November 29, 2010 3:12 PM

They'll pry my money out of my cold dead hands, enough alas MSM Journalists are becoming a bunch of eco-brainwashed flakes.

Posted by: Rose at November 29, 2010 3:25 PM

In looking briefly at the Telgraph article, the comments were running about 10 to 1 against doing anything to try and abate so-called Global Warming. So I'll take some hope from that.

Posted by: Jethro at November 29, 2010 3:41 PM

Chris Ivey is largely correct. However, the basic purpose of post-secondary education is to keep young people, from about 18 to about 24, off the streets, and out of the work force (think about THAT: OUT of the work force). The second, newer purpose is to sucker them into assuming so much debt that they will be in hock to a bank until they are in their middle ages. In fact, speaking to one Russian major, when she mentioned her $100,000 student debt, I realised that not only would she not pay it off in her lifetime, but it might even pass to her descendents if any.

She should thank Paul Martin.

A sad case, really. The conversation was about 10 years ago, and my wife and I thought she had a chance, a small chance, to make it as a translator, or to hook up with a wealthy man (she was good-looking). We encountered her recently - tired, haggard - there will be no rich gentleman in her future, nor a glamorous job as a translator at the UN.

Chris Ivey's concluding remark, "Once you understand that you will find that our educational system is working exactly as designed" is spot on.

BTW the MBA does not teach business math - the one essential thing for running a business!

Posted by: John Lewis at November 29, 2010 3:44 PM

Is there a place that sells industrial-sized cork? I ask because I can think of a few people who should stick a cork in it.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at November 29, 2010 4:03 PM

"Ah, the scientists, the same ones who told us that the ancient Egyptian civilization has built the pyramids.
My 13 year old son calculated how long it would have taken them using my university textbooks on construction and we laughed: if they had 380V power lines, they would still be working on assembling the bottom layer."

lol. You know, the really sad thing is that this is probably the most accurate comment so far. The fact that nobody has bothered to object to your lunacy is quite illuminating.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2010 4:15 PM

Diversity U Newsletter.

For Sale: Sheepskins. Cheap.

...-

"Universities facing service cuts to climb out of ‘pension abyss’"

"Canadian university pension plans have fallen into a collective $2.6-billion hole, and may have no choice but to cut services to begin climbing back out of it."

"Now, provincial laws will force schools to find money to plug those holes – sometimes tens of millions of dollars a year – an untimely headache for institutions already warning of cuts to come due to static government grants, limits on tuition hikes and shaky endowment returns.

A Globe and Mail survey of more than 20 Canadian universities shows a combined pension plan solvency deficit of at least $2.59-billion, and since some schools last crunched their numbers before 2008, that figure could still grow."

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/universities-facing-service-cuts-to-climb-out-of-pension-abyss/article1816725/

Posted by: maz2 at November 29, 2010 4:22 PM

As much as echoing Alex makes my flesh crawl, Aaron @2:16, I'll bite: Who built the pyramids?

Professor Kevin Anderson, Director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research, said the only way to reduce global emissions enough, while allowing the poor nations to continue to grow, is to halt economic growth in the rich world over the next twenty years..... “The Second World War and the concept of rationing is something we need to seriously consider if we are to address the scale of the problem we face,” he said.

Dear Kev - that's not going to happen, so please p*ss off, stop trying to steal my freedom and go find a new hobby. Russian roulette? I hear good things.

Posted by: Black Mamba at November 29, 2010 4:26 PM

I'm in favour of rationing. All tickets to climate events will be one way, tents in lieu of five star hotels and you walk instead of limos. How am I doing? Want more things YOU can do for the climate?

Posted by: Speedy at November 29, 2010 4:43 PM

Good on ya :) Nice to know that, with a little prodding, the group-think can be cracked.

Now that I've got your flesh crawling, time to finish you off with an aneurysm: Prof. Anderson is being a jackass. Well, either that, or he's being horribly misquoted. Probably a combination of the two, given the usual 'quality' of science reporting in the mainstream media.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2010 4:45 PM

They've got the propaganda part down pat, what with their shrieking posters and idiotic ads. Now if only the public would buy into their lunacy ... too bad this is one case where the old hippie dream of "what if they gave a war, and nobody came" manifests itself in reality: "what if we postulated an imaginary crisis, and no one granted our shrill promises of doom any credibility?"

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 29, 2010 5:07 PM

"Nice to know that, with a little prodding, the group-think can be cracked."

Yes Alex, SDA is a hotbed of pyramid denialism.

Posted by: Black Mamba at November 29, 2010 5:11 PM

Yes Alex, SDA is a hotbed of pyramid denialism.

As I understand it, pyramid denialism is one of the founding principles of conservatism. At least that's what it says in the brochure the VRWC sent me.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 29, 2010 5:15 PM

There seems to be no lie big enough to suit those bent on bringing in another socialist Utopia.

Professor Kevin Anderson and Joseph Goebbels appear to have something in common.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at November 29, 2010 5:24 PM

He thinks democratically elected governments enforcing universal rationing on the basis of flawed computer models and suspect data will maintain voter support. Really? I think Professor Bubble Boy needs a bit of time off campus to reacquaint himself with reality.

Posted by: LC Bennett at November 29, 2010 5:25 PM

"Yes Alex, SDA is a hotbed of pyramid denialism."

I'm not sure what "pyramid denialism[sic]" is, but it's probably irrelevant; the issue I was commenting on is that you're generally willing to tolerate any kind of craziness as long as it pushes the other dominant memes. It doesn't seem to matter that the person beside you is a raving lunatic going on about UFO's abducting his pet-rock collection: all that matters is that he agrees that "CAGW" is a communist plot to steal our hard earned monies, that universities are bad, and that scientists are stupid. It's the big-tent approach taken to extremes.

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2010 5:29 PM

I'm not sure what "pyramid denialism[sic]" is...

It's when you're in De Nile about who built the pyramids.

Posted by: Black Mamba at November 29, 2010 5:35 PM

Personally, I consider the "raving lunatic going on about UFO's abducting his pet-rock collection" a lesser threat that the Prof. Anderson types. It is wise to ignore irrelevant background noise and focus on the real problem.

Posted by: LC Bennett at November 29, 2010 5:39 PM

Personally, I just can't see how the Pyramids were ever built without union labor.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 29, 2010 6:02 PM

Easy:

http://tshirthell.vo.llnwd.net/e1/shirts/products/a974/a974_bm.gif

Posted by: Alex at November 29, 2010 6:07 PM

I have the perfect solution, feed eco-freaks to polar bears. Everybody's happy.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 29, 2010 6:15 PM

The workers who built the pyramids weren't slaves, Alex.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at November 29, 2010 6:40 PM

I'm confident that all those concernrd scientists and NGO's came by sailing ship and walked or rode horses to get to get to the global warming conflab in Mexico. After all, they wouldn't contribute to the problem, weould they?

Posted by: Dirtman at November 29, 2010 6:43 PM

the issue I was commenting on is that you're generally willing to tolerate any kind of craziness as long as it pushes the other dominant memes.

Some crank talking about pyramids on a blog is a lot easier to ignore than the actual real-life craziness of my provincial government using my money, during an electricity glut, mind you, to pay 20 times the wholesale price for unreliable, uneconomic electricity that comes from a source they've deemed somehow preferable, thanks to the demented rantings of the likes of "Professor" Anderson and his ilk.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 29, 2010 6:52 PM

Great ... defund the UN and lock the doors.

Posted by: OMMAG at November 29, 2010 6:58 PM

If the left stopped lying then much less resources would be wasted on trying to expose them or fighting their crazy ideas.

And if the left stopped being silly we would save much resources,

For example tens of millions of dollars are wasted on security measures such as scanning ( X-ray machines use electricity which in most cases come from either a coal or gas plant which in turn has a large carbon footprint, ever thought of that you anti-profiling leftists? )
and searching Catholic Caucasians at airports because THE LEFT REFUSES to let us concentrate searches on MIDDLE EASTERN MUSLIM MALES which is the demographic that is responsible for 99.9999% of all terror attacks (or attempts)

If the left was more logical we would use much less valuable resources.

Posted by: Friend of USA at November 29, 2010 7:05 PM

Group think?

here at SDA?

bwahahaha!

We keep disdagreing on a million things everyday!

There are heated debates here all the time on any topic you can imagine.

Most of us here may agree the left is wrong on many issues but that pretty much is where our agreing stops.( English is not my first language so maybe there is a better word than "agreeing" but I can not think of it now )

About the pyramids, I know how they built them; the Egyptians simply downloaded and copied stones from the internet without having to pay for them!!!

Posted by: Friend of USA at November 29, 2010 7:31 PM

Actually FOUSA, we really need to crack down on Catholics now for explosives. The Irish are getting cranky again over the EU bailout and about to strike back in their famous fashion anytime ;)

And Dan Ream, would you be able to prove slaves didn't build the pyramids? I mean, do you really think a wealthy society would work that hard themselves?

Posted by: eljay at November 29, 2010 7:38 PM

Let's begin by closing the universities. Lovely idea Kate. You can bet there would be squealing like pigs in the corridors of scholastic asininity.
While their at it would should create a hypocrite base. Those who spend the most carbon credits individually while spouting Global climate nonsense?
Science only had its reputation for credibility. Its spent that many times over now. Like Obama the treasury. In this bogus political maneuver. All it does is to stigmatize this essential progress to humanities well being.
Instead they have perverted there reputations for gain & politics. It will take generations to regain what was lost through evil men of lucre, not science. Now no one trusts them anymore to be honest or forthright. Just another group looking to con us.
Another sign if one was needed that confidence in ones civilization once lost is almost impossible to regain.
JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at November 29, 2010 7:46 PM

eljay - the current thinking is that the pyramids were built by a)the local peasantry. I'm no expert, but as a failed archaeologist I understand that there's no evidence that Egypt in the early dynasties relied on industrial-scale slavery or b)well, you'd have to ask Aaron.

Here's one example, but you can always do your own googling, and probably find something in a publication with no pictures of I'm a Celebrity: Get Me Out of Here! contestants in the sidebar:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242096/Tomb-discovery-helps-solve-ancient-slavery-riddle-pyramids.html

Oh, and, um... these environmental fanatics are deluded fascists and/or despicable rent-seekers! Weirdly relevant, stolen from Ace of Spades HQ (sigh):
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/11/027788.php

Posted by: Black Mamba at November 29, 2010 8:01 PM

I'm starting to think "Aaron" is somebody having fun. I mean, it's possible to be a tad off on a subject or two, but he's ridiculous.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at November 29, 2010 8:08 PM

There's a pyramid on the US dollar bill.

Some say the pyramids were built by slaves.

There were slaves in the USA.

Bush was the USA president.

Thus Bush is behind this pyramid......scheme.

Posted by: Friend of USA at November 29, 2010 8:22 PM

Here is an interesting letter to the editor of Calgary Herald form a professional geophysicist:
Truth and lies.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/letters/Truth+lies/3897823/story.html

It appears that the guy is putting his professional license on line with his comment.

“It is time to put climate change on trial, with all testimony made under oath, and any false testimony resulting in charges of perjury.”

Posted by: Lev at November 29, 2010 9:18 PM

Take away limousines; shoot all the lawyers; hang Soros, Gore, Suzuki, Stern, Cameron, a few Ozzies and how about that Kerry chap and the vile champaigne socialists of the US Democrat party?

Yes, I can see both sides of this argument :-)

Posted by: Robert of Ottawa at November 29, 2010 9:26 PM

cal2 at November 29, 2010 2:08 PM

I suppose Dr.Megele Suzuki has the full ensuite and private jet to CanCun so he doesnt have to mingle with the lesser hoipolloi.

I prefer the term "sqawking masses"

Posted by: Robert of Ottawa at November 29, 2010 9:27 PM

Sacrifice for thee, but not for me. Bono is a hypocrite, a con, a charlatan. Not worthy of any adulation.

I think it's time I put my U2 cds through the shredder.

Posted by: Brent at November 29, 2010 9:29 PM

It’s worse than we though!

'Mass suicide now the only option left' say Cancun scientists.

The radical measures being proposed by ’scientists’ include:
1. Compulsory consumption of ground-up tiger’s whiskers.
2. Jonestown-style “eco parties” where kids can join in the fun by drinking poisoned Kool-Aid (or similar locally popular beverage: eg Irn Bru in Scotland; Badoit or San Pellegrino in Notting Hill, etc).
3. Natural death safaris in Africa, North America, Australia and even Antarctica where you can re-enter the ecosystem through the bowels of your killer predator of choice: Lion; Grizzly; Great White or Leopard Seal
Tags: Cancun, fiasco, Kool-Aid, polar bears
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100065917/mass-suicide-now-the-only-option-left-say-cancun-scientists/

I think they want to keep up with the Joneses

Posted by: ES at November 29, 2010 10:31 PM

Remember I'm the guy who is of the opinion that if seniors are not cranky they haven't been paying attention.

What mystifies me is that despite empiracle, objective evidence that CAGW "science" is just a leftist scam/plot for Global Governance.....why is this Cancum "conference" proceeding?

Somethings I guess defy explaination, such as this insane hoax continuing at any level.

Having visited the Great Pyramids of Giza and the Platform of Baalbek, the sheer scale of these structures totally discredits any "consensus" notion as to how pre-industrial primitives could have built them in a practical time-span.

For simple starters, the consensus notion of dragging the building blocks up ramps is defeated by the reality that the proposed ramps would require constructing ramps as robust(if not more) as the pyramids and 2X the mass.

CAGW and consensus notions of the building methods of the pyramids are based upon false premises...IMHO.

Probably the tales, translated from Sumerian tablets about Annunaki and Nifilim have more merit.

The anthropological studies of the South Seas cargo cults explain this nonsense IMHO and the Nazca Lines as well.

The Calgary geophysicist has the best proposal....the matter went before the UK High Courts....as a result the CAGW cult will, perhaps violently, resist such a measure.

Posted by: sasquatch at November 30, 2010 1:18 AM

Friend of USA 7:31. "Downloading copies of stones from the internet"??? I don't think so, Al Gore had not invented it at that time.

Posted by: Rob C at November 30, 2010 2:03 AM

Cancun looms, and It will be a desperate last stand for the profiteering carbon commodities banking cabal as the Kyoto accord dies. They'll be out in force with all new pseudo-science myths to scare us into more crisis-based fascist pillaging and regulating to rid mother Gaia from the human virus that infects her.

Cancun is shaping up to be the largest convention of control freaks, depopulationists, grafters and anti humanitarian creeps ever gathered.

Posted by: Jim at November 30, 2010 2:35 AM

The truth of the Great Pyramids of Giza is known.
The fact is that Giza was not always a plain.
Lost in the annuls of time is the memory of the Golden Mountain, Mount Giza.

The solution to the question of how the pyramids were built is to point out that the pyramids weren't actually built at all.
What happened was that the Egyptians chipped away at Mount Giza, a bit here, a bit there, until they had chipped and ground away every part of Mount Giza that didn't look like the pyramids and they made the Desert.

-Addressing the thread topic:
People have got to organize as soon as a majority of citizens grasp that the elites and bent on forced rationing for us when there are no shortages or need to ration.

If the elites succeed in placing a regime of rationing on us they will gradually increase the rationing to the point that they are killing people through privation, which is their ultimate goal.

They want to reduce the global population by about 95 %.

Posted by: Oz at November 30, 2010 3:52 PM
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