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October 19, 2010

When All They Have Left Are The Slurs

There's a lesson in this for conservatives. But I'll leave you to figure out what it is on your own. (Language advisory).

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Posted by Kate at October 19, 2010 9:07 PM
Comments

Kate. Why are you poluting the universe with this crap?

Posted by: Tony RoBC at October 19, 2010 9:25 PM

Tony, I said there was a lesson in this.

Posted by: Kate at October 19, 2010 9:29 PM

*There's nothing substantive to argue in this election. The damage is already done, nothing left but to label who are the whores... who may have practiced out of the mainstream religion in Kentucky, who may have been a witch... or not. Remember Chretien's distorted election face?

stick to the issues, offer the reality.

Posted by: marc in calgary at October 19, 2010 9:36 PM

It's highly ironic that feminists choose to objectify women. Camille Paglia is the rare member of that sisterhood; she's thoughtful and delves into substantial issues other female liberals won't touch. I picked up a Ms. magazine once and was shocked by Gloria Steinem's apparent hatred of men. People intensely involved in causes may end up warped.

BTW, I read that it was Jerry Brown's WIFE who called Meg Whitman a "whore." (I was surprised, because I'd always thought he'd joined a monastery after splitting with Linda Ronstadt:)


Posted by: chutzpahticular at October 19, 2010 9:38 PM

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." - Thatcher

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 19, 2010 9:56 PM

Thanks Kate, it brings many arguments up from the past and one in particular comes to mind.

It was a proud moment in my life when I had the opportunity to debate some of my native friends in front of my Social Studies class during high school. The looks on their faces when I told them that as a person of Mennonite back ground, our land was taken, our "kind" was killed and persecuted and we relocated without any help. We didn't expect anything, we didn't demand anything and we prospered once again. We assimilated into our newly found culture.

If anyone believes that oppression can be defined by race and gender, they are sorely mistaken.

Posted by: Knacker at October 19, 2010 10:00 PM

BTW chutzy - Steinem on Paglia: ""[Paglia] calling herself a feminist is sort of like a Nazi saying they're not anti-Semitic."

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 19, 2010 10:03 PM

Lesson: Play attack, not defense.

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 19, 2010 10:11 PM

and ya wonder why so many millions of young parents are so happy their daughters now idolize a non tatooed, non swearing Justin Beiber who doesn't sing about beating their women like cheap whores and killing police and other authority figures.

Posted by: Fred at October 19, 2010 10:15 PM

That is great.

Posted by: EBD at October 19, 2010 10:27 PM

Know yourself and know the enemy better.

Posted by: syncrodox at October 19, 2010 10:40 PM

Knacker: Ukrainian here. Relatives in relocation camps during WWI. Ancestors taken in slavery by Muslims. Nobody asking for anything, no special rights, no victimhood, no free housing or education, just hard work and good citizenship.

That aside - awesome post Kate!

Posted by: Michael H Anderson at October 19, 2010 10:40 PM

Hell, I didn't even mention what the Soviets did! Maybe it'll inspire a troll or two to pick up a book on the history of Communism.

Posted by: Michael H Anderson at October 19, 2010 10:42 PM

Well, most of the comments are good, and some are really close, but still ... not quite what I was getting at. The title is a clue.

Posted by: Kate at October 19, 2010 10:49 PM

i learned a new spanish word in espagne last week...'impollutu'...

taught me by charlie the renowned 'queen of the faeries' in Fuengirola...


got an email charlie fell down while dancing flamenco at the feria...it said he ruined his pants and bent his tiera .....but he's okay...

Posted by: john begley at October 19, 2010 10:50 PM

In other words, Kate, the left keeps pulling the trigger on empty chambers.

They got nothing other than the slurs, and the crowd is starting to realize it.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at October 19, 2010 10:54 PM

Okay, let me take a run at this.

When all they have left is the slurs,

a) they're trying to hide something because
b) they don't want to be exposed

so,

c) expose 'em fearlessly, and make THEM back up.

Am I close?

Posted by: EBD at October 19, 2010 11:01 PM

I already know what the left going say bout me
...
so, Tell these people something they dont know about me

Posted by: Jd at October 19, 2010 11:06 PM

I'm guessing EBD nailed it. No wonder he's such a big-shot around here.

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 19, 2010 11:06 PM

When you have no intellectual firepower, the name calling begins???

Posted by: Knacker at October 19, 2010 11:08 PM

Hmmmm. I suppose the lesson is that if all they have left are slurs, then it's time to claim victory and walk away.

If we take the AGW thing as an example, though, it just isn't true. All the facts in the world haven't stopped them or the media and the politicians haven't dared to deviate from the mantra. I suppose that's where we need to take our next step - to the politicians due this spring (for the feds, that is). I'd like to see it and the Section 13 thing be the only thing they hear about when they come knocking at the door. Well, maybe a few other things, too, like dismantling the CBC, and judicial activism, and creeping Sharia, and......

We can apply the lesson here in the comments thread though. Foolish trolls like BTJ can and should be ignored.

Posted by: Louise at October 19, 2010 11:08 PM

THEY ARE LOSING (LOSERS)

Posted by: GYM at October 19, 2010 11:09 PM

...and EBD's response would make more sense. Although I still love shoving my history into the "unfortunates" face.

Posted by: Knacker at October 19, 2010 11:12 PM

Dirty politics (going for the personal jugular) indicate a lack of solid values. Take a principled stand and stick with it.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at October 19, 2010 11:18 PM

I don't remember the exact quote or the source but I read this once. "Once an organization reaches a certain size, the organization's first priority becomes preservation of the organization." Whatever priciples an organization was founded on become secondary to that preservation. I think that is why an organization like NOW can demonize conservative women or not make an issue of the horrible treatment women receive in Muslim countries. They see their survival tied to the Left and anything against the Left, even women, are the enemy.

Posted by: JB1000 at October 19, 2010 11:19 PM

They're powerful pieces of attack propaganda if you run away and hide from them. If instead, we stand up, embrace the labels, acknowledge what little truth there is in the slurs, we render the slurs powerless. You take away their only argument. THEN. You go on the ATTACK.

Conservatives have let Liberals make the rules and then tried to follow them. They miss the point, the rules are only there for Conservatives to follow. Liberals are going to break their own protocols for the pursuit of power. The rules are for the "little people".

By way of example, the Leftist Media have frequently knocked Stephen Harper for being past president of the National Citizens Coalition. He has run away from his own past. That was a foolish decision. If he had embraced that fact of his life, was proud of it and repeated it often 10 years, then right now every Canadian would believe without a doubt that he would 1. cut government waste everywhere he could find it. 2. stand up for personal liberty 3. lower taxes. Instead, even conservatives have their doubts about all 3.

Posted by: PlaidShirt at October 19, 2010 11:20 PM

*Last month, liberal talk show host Stephanie Miller laughed uproariously when a female guest on her show said that if she ever met Michelle Malkin, “I would kick [her] right in the nuts,” and warned, “Wear a cup, lady.”*
Tonight on Larry King the same Stephanie Miller tried to suggest the terms "Man Up" and "Grow Some" with reference to Obama was somehow homophobic. Good grief!

Posted by: Boots at October 19, 2010 11:22 PM

Well, Black Mamba, that's what Eminem did in that clip. Plus, he didn't fight the battle on *their* terms, he fought it - and won it - on his own terms.

"Pleasing your enemies does not..." and all that.

Posted by: EBD at October 19, 2010 11:22 PM

Watch what Eminem does on that clip.

"Here, tell these people something they don't know about me".

Granted, it's easier if you've seen the whole movie. This is somewhat helpful.

Go back to the post title. "When all they have left are the slurs", the mere act of defending yourself sustains them. That's because the slur remains the property of the adversary to use against you, again and again.

B-rabbit knows what his opponent is going to say about him. He takes absolute possession of his own personal negatives ... and "Papa Doc" is left with nothing to use against him.


Posted by: Kate at October 19, 2010 11:26 PM

"I know you are, but what am I?"

They have nothing to shoot at, the mess is theirs, and they're out of ammo.

*and election night, will be grand.

Posted by: marc in calgary at October 19, 2010 11:28 PM

Looks like PlaidShirt nailed it while I was typing my comment. Well done.

Posted by: Kate at October 19, 2010 11:29 PM

Boots, I guess Miller knows something we don't about Michelle's husband.

Posted by: chutzpahticular at October 19, 2010 11:33 PM

Knacker @ 10:00, ditto, exactly.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at October 19, 2010 11:40 PM

The left can't debate the issues, because they lose. So they go on personal attacks.

Straw-men, ad-hominem, demagoguery. It's getting so bad it's becoming a drinking game.

A woman conservative is not a true woman. A black conservative is not a true black. A gay conservative is not a true gay.

These arguments are losing value, kind of like the US dollar. They're overdoing it. But they're desperate, so they have no alternative.

It's going to be a fun 2 weeks.

Posted by: Norman at October 20, 2010 12:01 AM

I think it's 'my boy Future is an Uncle Tom'

Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at October 20, 2010 12:06 AM

My prime exhibit is "Godwin's Law"...

This nonsense is designed solely....entirely solely to be used by the left on conservatives....to defang legitimate criticism than can never be applied to conservatives.

This fits into the myth that National Socialism (NAZIsm) is far right....a fabrication originating from the Kremlin. Nazism is just another flavour of socialism as is fascism.

Indeed this lefty reliance on slurs is especially frequent currently because like it or not the political narrative is dominated by US politics....and the lefty democrats are so desperate that they will use anything....and slurs (and projection) are all that is left.

When I say projection just simple observation indicates that the lefties are vastly influenced by matters of sexuality. The sexual escapades of JFK as well as the infatuation by both Kennedy brothers for Marilyn Monroe...Slick Willie and the little blue dress......for starters...

Sarah Pallin, Michelle Malkin, and O'Donnell seem to spook lefties more by their appearance than by their pronouncements.

Just yesterday....the lefty media and blogosphere---Kos etc....went ballistic ridiculing Palin for remarking:

"...don't start dancing like it's 1773....."

Their remarks were many like this....
"Duh...stupid! Nuthin happened in 1773....what a moron."

1773 was the year of the BOSTON TEA PARTY.....

Palin drives lefties nutso---even the CBC has declared that "Canadians hate Sarah Palin..."

I don't need to remark about the left's female 2-time losers.....Hilary, Oprah, Pelossi, Boxer, Hedy Fry, Wendy Cukier.....Lizzy May.....


Posted by: sasquatch at October 20, 2010 12:16 AM

The metaphor has been lost in a forest of facts ;)

Posted by: the bear at October 20, 2010 1:08 AM

Further to how Stephen Harper avoids his National Citizens Coalition past.... we should embrace the term "Reformatory" and not act like it is poison. SunTV should also embrace the label "FoxNews North"...

Say, "Hell yeah, thanks for the compliment!!"

If we act like something's a slur, we give it credence.

Posted by: Soccermom at October 20, 2010 1:23 AM

Thanks for the challenge Kate. Perfect.
Heard STeinem on the radio tonight.
I figure you can't be a feminist unless you are full of hate, and never, never, never be happy. Just as a communist can never admit to the class struggle being over. It would negate your raison d'etre. YOU MUST REMAIN ANGRY, VERY VERY ANGRY!! I feel so very sorry for them.
Smile while they spit in your eye. Who ends up looking bad? And like the video, don't care if the anyone "gets it".
Don't care if CNN or MSNBC EVER GETS IT!

Posted by: jack at October 20, 2010 2:26 AM

K8 quotes from 8 mile! I'm a toronto boy. the news of late is that calgary and toronto have switched places. i'll be happy when toronto is the new saskatoon.

Posted by: subversible at October 20, 2010 3:47 AM

When all the Lefties have left is the slurs, watch out. Because the very next thing they are going to do is go for their gun.

Rush Limbaugh's been saying it for 20+ years, run on CONSERVATISM and damn the Lefty torpedoes. Conservatives will win when they stop backing up, stop justifying themselves, and stop trying to make friends with these @-holes. They're not friendly.

I must admit, Lori Ziganto's cries of "no fair!" when the femmies call her mean names make me roll my eyes. As a White male I've been hearing "men are scum" since friggin' highschool. As a conservative I've been getting called a Nazi and a faggot on-line since there even was "on-line". I've grown used to having jobs shot out from under me because of my politics, or just because I'm a man. I post under a friggin' pen name to avoid Lefty attacks on my family.

Yes, Lefties are mean. We know.

So man-up, Lori Ziganto. You think the name-calling is bad, wait until one of the f-ers takes a swing at your head.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 20, 2010 8:07 AM

My uess kate is to start fighting back with slur's stand your ground ?

Just a guess one thing also is maybe if we throw all of our sterio types outi nto the open and we speak of them (witch we do ) it kinda disarmes them and all they are left with is slur's ? witch make them look even more hopeless?

Dunno ....tell me tell me tell me tell me!!! lol

Posted by: Paul in calgary at October 20, 2010 8:19 AM

Old and tired:

"I know you are, but what am I?"

New hotness:

"I know who I am. What else ya got?"

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at October 20, 2010 8:27 AM

In the spirit of this topic, Dana Loesch actually left Bill Maher speechless with her response to his use of the "teabagger" bit. You can find it on Breitbart, but the short version was that she told him if she was a teabagger, than he has to be the teabaggee...

Not often do you see Maher with his mouth hanging open that long.

Posted by: hoil at October 20, 2010 8:42 AM

Sorry, I don't speak jive.

Posted by: nick at October 20, 2010 9:17 AM

When they run out of slurs they will then turn to violence.

Posted by: Inoitall at October 20, 2010 9:24 AM

When there is nothing left but slurs... you always have your convictions to fall back on, right? The convictions that are the foundations of the offering you take to the electorate... because you are motivated more by the prospects of seeing those convictions shape society than enjoying the political power.

If you are more motivated by the prospect of power, rather than conviction-based leadership, then you care very much how your offering is packaged, and therefore you care how your image is shaped, therefore you care about the image shapers.

If you grant the traditional image shapers the power they like to use to marginalize if they don't like your flavor, then in the electorate's mind, your convictions are like jello nailed to a wall - you do not stand behind your brand, so what does it matter - your image becomes what is important.

Beneath it all is the conviction - both in your own message, and the ability of the electorate to grasp the logic of your message, rather than the emotion of your image. The power granted to the media by politicians of all stripes hinges on this core belief.

Fortunately, that portion of the population that is enthralled by image is probably too damn lazy to get out and vote.

So, hold fast to your true convictions, and find every channel to communicate those convictions to the electorate. And treat the media like the buffoons they truly are.

Posted by: shaken at October 20, 2010 9:35 AM

Why this celebration of a dead (doomed) culture? Or was this a wake?

Posted by: Occam at October 20, 2010 9:38 AM

Name it and claim it.

Posted by: Flea at October 20, 2010 9:41 AM

Heh.

Glenn Beck admits to his past and the lefties can't use it.

Others began to take the word "racists" away from the abusive use of it, by leftists, by mocking it.

Posted by: Curious at October 20, 2010 10:15 AM

Kate: "B-rabbit knows what his opponent is going to say about him. He takes absolute possession of his own personal negatives ... and "Papa Doc" is left with nothing to use against him."

All well and good, except that his freestyle was so powerful because it was honest -- B-Rabbit does in fact live in a trailer with his mom, his friend did in fact f--- his girl, etc.

You can't "take absolute possession of your personal negatives" until you actually admit to yourselves what they are. Somehow I don't see conservatives -- or any other ideologically motivated, politically partisan collective, for that matter -- being so self-reflective and forthcoming about their past and present failings and weaknesses. Not everyone can be like B-Rabbit.

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe SDA should lead by example. As a first step to disarming the "left," perhaps everyone here could share with the rest of the class what they consider the "personal negatives" of themselves and their fellow conservatives.

(Oh, by the way, your illustrative example seems to imply that, just as Papa Doc's intended slurs against B-Rabbit were based on the reality of the latter's life, the left's "slurs" against conservatives also have kernals of truth to them. Perhaps that was not your intent?)

Posted by: Davenport at October 20, 2010 10:22 AM

Absolutely that was my intent. Furthermore, it hardly matters if the slurs are factual or not. It only matters that they remain effective as weapons through the sheer act of acknowledging and denying them.

Posted by: Kate at October 20, 2010 10:32 AM

Seriously, it's become that bad that even such hardcore conservative that my wife is, is having 2nd thought about wearing her arctic fox for fear of being pelted with flour. I just promised her to beat the crap out of any offender and we laughed.

Posted by: Aaron at October 20, 2010 10:48 AM

I'm late to the thread, and Kate gave the answer so I'll just offer this:

"I am just what you say I am, and if I wasn't then why would I say I am?"-Eminem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQvteoFiMlg

FYI, Eminem was the biggest selling artist (albums)of the last decade (2000-2010).

Posted by: Indiana Homez at October 20, 2010 11:56 AM

Also, the "Uncle Tom" from the movie is based on Eminem's mentor Proof who was shot at a night club a few years ago. This song is from his latest album is dedicated him:

"You're Never Over"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNDQs8frXOk


This guys lyrical skills are ridiculous!

Posted by: Indiana Homez at October 20, 2010 12:06 PM

When all they have Left are the slurs, that's when the Left find themselves up to their eyeballs in slurry.

Posted by: Oz at October 20, 2010 12:26 PM

Okay. Now I see. I've never listened to Enema from beginning to end, but I agree with him. It why I call my blog stubble jumping redneck, and I'm a proud, unapologetic redneck.

Posted by: Louise at October 20, 2010 12:36 PM

Davenpot's the only Lefty lurker with guts enough to step up to the mic eh?

Props, Davenport.

Now lets talk about those kernels, shall we?

1. Slur: Conservatives are racists! Kernel, Conservatives don't think people should get a special deal because of their race. We think they should get what they work for.

2. Slur, Conservatives are homophobes! Kernel, Conservatives think sex is something best kept in the home, and out of our face.

3. Slur, Conservatives don't care about the environment!!! Kernel, Conservatives think Global Warming is a scam, we would prefer to focus on reducing pollutants that actually -pollute- something.

4. Slur, Conservatives hate the poor! Kernel, Conservatives hate welfare because it destroys people.

5. Slur, Conservatives are Nazis! Kernel, the Nazis were -socialists-.

6. Slur, Conservatives are a bunch of beer swilling, popcorn eating, gun toting, pickup truck driving white people. Kernel, what's your point?

How am I doing so far?

Conversely, when I say that your average Lefty would think nothing of retaliating against a Phantom family member for something The Phantom posted on a blog, that's not a slur. That's a description.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 20, 2010 12:40 PM

Doing great Phantom.

Posted by: Ken (Kulak) at October 20, 2010 2:17 PM

Er, The Phantom, you've gone all defensive.

Therefore, Davenport wins!

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at October 20, 2010 2:28 PM

Davenport brought the term "kernel of truth" to the table and The Phantom ate it up hugely disappointing mistress Kate and missing the central point of her LESSON.

Quibble: Are those ... lyrics?

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at October 20, 2010 2:31 PM

Me No:

I disagree.

We all win when we stand up to the name-calling bullies and Phantom just stood up.

Now, please sit down.

Posted by: set you free at October 20, 2010 2:33 PM

As they say, scratch a leftist, find a misogynist.

Posted by: Osumashi Kinyobe at October 20, 2010 2:44 PM

MND, its called taking the other guy's bat away from him and bruising him upside the head with it.

She want kernels of truth, I've got a rail car full right here. November's coming, its HARVEST TIME baby. What you sowed y'all now going to -reap-.

Conservative slur, Lefties are LIARS, they will say -anything-. Kernel of truth, hell yeah they will and we see them do it every frickin' day.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 20, 2010 2:57 PM

Me No Dhimmi - gots to go with Phantom this time. The question - "well, what faults are we 'owning', anyway?" - raised by the charming Davenport is inevitable here.

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 20, 2010 3:45 PM

"When all they have left is the slurs"they're slurring themselves. There's a lot of that going around from the opposition benches in the HOC.

Posted by: Liz J at October 20, 2010 3:50 PM

When the left outumber the right by 2 to 1 and the right can still govern (and mostly well)I'd say they're doing a pretty fair job. Just remember that in a democracy like ours only one team gets the keys to the car at a time. As the PM keeps pointing out, the other team is going to be far worse than even Trudeau. Just remember that as the Conservative team zips around in our "national wheels" sometimes they are forced to take detours to satisfy the the crowd of lefties they are forced to travel with. If we lose what we've got now, and the lefties get the keys, I don't think they'll be making many stops for us. For those who wish to percipitate a crisis that may be cool, for those of us with young families...not so cool. Always remember, a half a loaf of bread beats going hugry.

Posted by: peter at October 20, 2010 4:25 PM

When the left outumber the right by 2 to 1 and the right can still govern (and mostly well)I'd say they're doing a pretty fair job. Just remember that in a democracy like ours only one team gets the keys to the car at a time. As the PM keeps pointing out, the other team is going to be far worse than even Trudeau. Just remember that as the Conservative team zips around in our "national wheels" sometimes they are forced to take detours to satisfy the the crowd of lefties they are forced to travel with. If we lose what we've got now, and the lefties get the keys, I don't think they'll be making many stops for us. For those who wish to percipitate a crisis that may be cool, for those of us with young families...not so cool. Always remember, a half a loaf of bread beats going hugry.

Posted by: peter at October 20, 2010 4:26 PM

Black Mamba.
I'm onside with 99.9% of what The Phantom (and you yourself) says here.
It's just that bringing up certain slurs that your opponent didn't -- We are not Nazis -- is being utterly defensive and doing what Mistress Kate teaches us not to do!

Richard Nixon once said: I am not a crook.
Bad. The public heard this as I AM a crook.
Sadly, he wasn't really much of a crook as politicans go.

In sales, you don't bring up possible objections a customer might bring up. You handle ONLY the objection he/she raises AND you don't go on about it. And you question more than you talk!

I might be naive, but Davenport actually strikes me more as an old-style liberal, not a troll, a person you can actually engage with. He/she has brought up some good points here: recently, that conservatives weren't much bothered by Big Government-Big Bank collusion during the Bush years and when the bull raged.

I'd like to see less shouting and more questioning along Socratic lines, like when Breibart recently strolled over to some placard-waving protestors and just asked them questions, which they couldn't answer and which made them look like zombie fools.

And old (former) friend -- who I always saw as a liberal democrat but who morphed into a hard left green-commie antisemite once told me, "Israel doesn't have a right to exist". I learned that it was pointless to push into a long spiel on the history of the conflict and just asked him, "Jim, can you think of any other countries in he world which don't have a right to exist?". End of discussion. I win. He's an anti-semite. Case closed.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at October 20, 2010 6:05 PM

Me No Dhimmi - I don't think Davenport's a troll. She's intelligent and often well informed; Agressively wrong about everything, but still I like her, inasmuch as I want to keep her around because debate with the non-retarded is good. I mean, she's a fine substitute for T.

re. Phantom's "Nazi" thing: The implication that being right of centre is somehow placing yourself on a continuum towrads Dachau is just stupid, among other things; we understand that; but narratives matter. Nazi = NSDAP = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei = National Socialist German Workers' Party. We need to bring this up every time it comes up until they're embarassed to bring it up. Because it's true.

Put them on the defensive: "Racist? If you mean do I hate Affirmative Action, if that's how you define 'Racist', well...."

"Homophobic? Do you mean that I don't consider perfectly legal (as it should be) same-sex action the social and psychological equivalent to procreative marriage? Okay..."

We're in the right, so they can't harm us very much.

Posted by: Black Mamba at October 20, 2010 6:58 PM

OT

Rule 1 of rap battles is you must rhyme off the top of the dome(top of the head), but because this is a movie, this obviously isn't the case.

Here's an Eminem freestyle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNCrsCWoD9w&feature=related

Posted by: Indiana Homez at October 20, 2010 7:10 PM

For today, I won't care about the world going to Hell in a handbasket. Kate gave me a gold star!

I think about this topic all the time, it's the only reason, I got the answer. We have to stop "selling" conservatism. We need to be unapologetically Conservative.

Our movement and our past has flaws. To use Angle's put down of Reid, "We need to man up!" So for conservatives that means admitting guys like me supported Bush and he turned around and spent money like a drunken sailor. We only supported him because the other option was Gore. Then go on the attack. We admitted our mistake, now Mr. Canadian Liberal, didn't I see you at that 2008 presidential election party at HQ celebrating Obama's win? How you feeling about that now?

There is a local opposition MP, who is a thorn in the side of the government. He throws down slurs and lies. He just settled out of court with a former CPC staffer for a defamation of character lawsuit. He hits out at the party and supporters. He is a loudmouth who annoys every conservative in the country. The Leftist Media love him. He also abandoned his wife and kids and shacked up with a university student prior to the last election.

Being called names by this guy? Bring it on.

I know his CPC opponent is going to spend half his time denying being an environmental villain, Big Business loving, homophobic, gun-toting racist redneck and never touch this slimeball. If only the Phantom was runing against him. Sigh.

Posted by: PlaidShirt at October 20, 2010 7:39 PM

It's just that bringing up certain slurs that your opponent didn't -- We are not Nazis -- is being utterly defensive and doing what Mistress Kate teaches us not to do!

The Left called GW Bush a Nazi and by implication everyone that supported him.
They did it alot.

The appropriate comeback is-"The Nazis were Socialists...you are a Socialist."

Trolls come here all the time and call conservative commenters here the KKK.
The appropriate comeback is-"The KKK were Democrat supporters...you are a Democrat supporter.
If you want their heads to explode you could add that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and so was Dr. Martin Luther King jr.

Play their game and beat them at it.

Posted by: Oz at October 20, 2010 7:42 PM

Do the mods ever check the spam filter to free the trapped comments that shouldn't be in there?

Posted by: Oz at October 20, 2010 7:43 PM

Thank you for freeing my comment.
Why does it have a timestamp that says 7:42 and was inserted before my 7:43 comment?
It was first posted before Plaidshirt @ 7:39.
I modified it about 3 times to try and get it through but "no joy".

Is that supposed to make me look like a whiner by inserting it in front of my 7:43 comment?

Posted by: Oz at October 20, 2010 8:06 PM

There's no way to change timestamps here.

Posted by: Kate at October 20, 2010 8:35 PM

Well, yes, Oz, that's all correct and those responses are accurate and effective, and I've used them often myself ... but, but Davenport didn't accuse anyone of being a Nazi. That's all I was trying to say.

PlaidShirt: Thanks for that amusing comment about not caring about the world going to hell in a handbasket 'cos you gotta gold star from Kate. You are justifiably proud for Kate has never engaged in grade inflation!

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at October 20, 2010 8:54 PM

Great post.

David Kahane - actually a pseudonym for a Hollywood screenwriter - expands on the concept in Kate's post at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/248117/party-it-s-1980-david-kahane

The article explains how conservatives can manage the left's attacks, and actually turn them agains them through a sickeningly accurate explanation of how the left goes about destroying their political opposition, by using knowledge of human nature, and application of Saul Alinsky's principles.

He expands on the theme in this interview with Kathryn Jean Lopez at:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/247917/ruling-ways-interview

Highly recommended for any conservative wanting to understand the mindset and weapons liberals bring to public debate.

Posted by: small c conservative at October 20, 2010 9:59 PM

I had a "313" area code when growing up in the north Detroit area: lived 4 miles north of 8 mile - best topless joints around.
B-rabbit got it wrong: it's Cranbrook, not Crambrook - da asswipe - i'd show the dude... LOL

On second thought, maybe B-rabbit got it right: Crambrook...eh...

Posted by: Orlin of Marquette at October 20, 2010 10:15 PM

Ok .... so if I liken socialists to parasites .... because they are parasites of a sort... and state they are the equivalent of intestinal worms in the belly of our society .... is that the same thing as a slur?

Posted by: OMMAG at October 20, 2010 10:22 PM

Plaidshirt, you are Da MAN today. "We have to stop "selling" conservatism. We need to be unapologetically Conservative."

Oh -yeah-. I don't sell what I am, I AM what I am. With spinach on it. You don't sell the truth, you SPEAK the truth.

And the truth is, modern liberalism/Leftism is a disaster for us. Everything they touch they break. Canadian healthcare, broken. Canadian military, broken. Canadian electric grid, broken. Canadian education, broken. Canadian justice, broken. Canadian families, BROKEN. Toronto, Montreal Vancouver, broken broken broken.

And you know what? I personally remember when that stuff was not broken. Socialists BROKE IT.

So yeah, I am not perfect. I am a chip eating truck driving gearhead and I don't pick up my socks. But I can tell sh1t from shinola, and what we got going on here in this country ain't shineola.

And the Americans, they are just up to the neck in not shineola.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 20, 2010 10:43 PM

"Cranbrook, not Crambrook"

Don't blame him. Try searching for rap lyrics some time. Let's just say there's a real diversity in spelling out there.

Posted by: Kate at October 21, 2010 12:16 AM

Lets bring dueling back. Much more civilized IMO.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at October 21, 2010 4:07 AM

I agree tony, kate. brings back memories...

Kate. Why are you poluting the universe with this crap?

Posted by: Tony RoBC at October 19, 2010 9:25 PM
Tony, I said there was a lesson in this.

Posted by: Kate at October 19, 2010 9:29 PM

Posted by: Orlin of Marquette at October 21, 2010 4:43 PM

Two thumbs up go out to ya Kate..

Try searching for rap lyrics some time. Let's just say there's a real diversity in spelling out there.

Posted by: Orlin of Marquette at October 21, 2010 4:58 PM
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