And Bill wouldn't say POOP if his mouth was full of it. Cordoba House? Erected on the site of the greatest attack on infidels since.... before 11 Sept 1683. You know Battle of Vienna 1683 Sept 11/12? You did study history I assume.

I am starting to think that Bill may actually be able to work at the CBC. Not to worry the pit bull Hannity follows whatever fluff Bill may have left lying about and vacuums in right up.

I can see in the face and words of this Imam Rauf, that this is part of the Jihad. His mission is to build the victory mosque and he must not fail. This makes it interesting because America is not likely to let him do it and he has now been associated with a radical truther.

I'd say that his nuts are in a vise at this time. It may be over for this fraud.

Imam Rauf is Islam's version of our own Reverend Al Sharpton as far as I can tell.

Just saw the Imam on TV being interviewed telling everyone with a straight face that Sharia law is entirely compatible with the American Constitution. I wonder which part he means? The stoning of women for adultery? The superiority of the Arab race over other nonArab Muslims? The Jizra tax on nonMuslims or those Muslims you don't like depending on what part of history we're talking about? I wonder.

Despite the MSM best efforts.....this takiya teller is exposed..he is toast.

Geert Wilders has a much bigger following. The only elements supporting Rauf are those elusive moderate muslims, and OBOZO's rump support....let's see thats 1%muzzies + 12%black +....say 15% for the stuck on stupid lefties....that's 28% +/- 5% against 60% Tea Party.....and the wise guys who control the cement and the unions in the Big Apple.

Hmm, I'll have to disagree with the first couple of posts re: O'Reilly. I watched that segment on the O'Reilly Factor tonight. During the segment, I commented specifically to my wife that it was rare to see Bill so impassioned on a topic -- that most times, he maintains a 'fair and balanced' temperament to a fault.

This was not one of those times.

In fairness to him, he was trying to use available facts to "connect the dots" (his words), to come to the conclusion that Rauf and this mosque business were nefarious in nature.

Personally, since this story broke in August, I have held a walks-like-a-duck view. That is, given the available information, one can come pretty close to making a prima facie case that the mosque is all about sticking it to the infidel -- a Victory Mosque at the site of 3,000 dead.

As always, IMHO.

As always, IMHO.

Rauf is a useful idiot to Obama. He sits on the Council of Foreign Relations which do nothing but break down sovereign nations and work them into the the UN fold. Entrapment and enslavement, fooling the American people into thinking that Islam is a sheep, but we can see those sharp, shiny teeth under the wool. Those who want to see, have no problem linking the dots that Rauf is attached to.

"Rauf is a useful idiot to Obama"

Methinks its the other way around. The Wiz of O' isn't putting up the money for the Victory Mosque and he sure didn't put up his own money for the Presidency run.

Might he have a wee debt owed to the House of al Saud? Rauf is an Islamic Ambassador setting up his Manhattan Embassy but there's a bunch of noisy yahoos going on about a tremendous murder of innocents on what now's nothing but an empty lot. Rauf needs some help so O's job is to be the obedient "Great Facilitator" and do what it takes to get it done. If that means getting others to do a "Piss Christ" at the WTC to show everyone that it's not hallowed ground then so be it. He's a practical guy that gets plenty of green butter for his loaf of bread for doing what's asked of him.

Only problem is...Americans get to vote, and November's one day closer every morning. One thing about those particular Americans who object to the Victory mosque...they'll be the ones that won't forget to vote.

The Wiz of O's implosion continues. Guess the extra spot on Mount Rushmore may go to Reagan after all.

This all seems to me to be slightly beside the point (although kudos to O'Reilly and all that). Would it really matter if Rauf were the Coolest Muslem Ever!? Not to me. No Mosque at Ground Zero. Not "no Mosque at Ground Zero if the guy sponsoring it turns out to be sleazy", just "no Mosque at Ground Zero".

Joe...did you sleep thru the vid?
O'Reilly was asking very direct questions, gave Locker the chance to present the facts.

A little off topic but Hindus are being attacked in India by muslims. A scary story.

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2010/09/13/muslims-attack-hindus-in-india-part-i/

Having a problem with that whole Religion of Peace thing.

....and being a "truther" makes the guy what? Terrorists? Lunitic fringe? You guys are nothing but Islamiphobes. Get over it and get real. The victims of the families are still PRESSING for the TRUTH;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481#
Might have known,....this crap presented to US by OmniChristian, the American Jihadists. Go fuk yerselves.

Well according to the rules of islamic architecture, is a Rabat . . . a place for Islamic soldiers to rest and train.

http://tinyurl.com/35s47al

puts paid to the "Islamic Cultural Center" as well.

Actually Speedy I regularly watch O'Reilly on TV and his "Well we don't know" qualifiers were more than a little nauseatingly disingenuous. Then his constant appeals to his imaginary friends the 'Moderate Muslims' and Muslim truthfulness.

Note to OmniChristians; http://nhiemstra.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/the-discipline-of-forgiveness/

Fred is correct it shall be a place to train Islamists under the guise of calling it a Mosque. It's a Rabat, nothing less nothing more.

Self loathng leftards are allowing Political Islam to advance to stage two, stage one was annointing Islam with Supremacist's status over other faiths via Obama's support of the Mosque. Stage two shall be some kind of strange "Infidel" tax that goes to Muslims, the state department shall impliment that I suspect? Stage three other faiths will be forced to adhere to the Islamists demands or they'll get violent that's taking place with the help of MSM today, tomorrow and in the future.

I tend to agree with Colin from Mission B.C. that it is a "Victory Mosque" to be strategically placed as a political statement.

My response to the GZ Mosque is this: as soon as the City of New York lets the Greek Orthodox church which was destroyed in the 9/11 attacks rebuild - then the mosque can go up (so far I believe that the church has been denied 3 times for building permits)

CJ...as a Christian I want to say thanks for the link to the message of forgiveness @8:40.
However, central to my faith is Truth and a realistic world view. I don't see any conflict here. In fact I've heard some recent ex-Muslims , now Christian, tell more truth than O'Reilly has been able to dig up, and it ain't pretty.

Too much hate in your 8:28 comment to take you seriously.

Bill knows that this subject is close to a lot of his, "yet to clue in about him" viewers. Ever since he dissed Pamela Gellar on his show he has been looking for an angle to get back into this fight while not using the people who are actually at the forefront of this fight......Pamela Gellar, Robert Spencer plus many others. Who the Hell does he have on his show to immediately discuss this new development? Mary Katherine Ham and Juan Williams. No disrespect intended to them, but, why not talk to the people who are actually in the fight from the beginning. No, they're too controversial for the mighty Bill. I use to watch Bill all the time but now I wait 1 hour longer and watch someone with real guts.

It's a monument to the martyrs who hi-jacked the planes . Why don't they just admit it ? Both sides know this but they keep " pussyfootin around " as Nixon wouls say .

It's interesting to note that the good imam says the Cordoba House wouldn't be on hallowed ground because, well, there's strippers and gamblers there too. I think someone should remind the man that it wasn't strippers and gamblers that flew jets into the world trade centre and murdered thousands of innocent people.

Judith said "Just saw the Imam on TV being interviewed telling everyone with a straight face that Sharia law is entirely compatible with the American Constitution."

Well it's not compatible right now but it will be in the near future. The constitution will have to change to accommodate Sharia Law. That's why the left is forever pushing the boundaries of the Constitution, Charter, Civil Rights Laws etc. They want The Law to mean whatever they want it to mean on any given day.

Steven Smith, I agree with you about Bill O'Reilly. When we first got FOX News, I was sucked in by the "No Spin" propaganda for a few months. Then it occurred to me, "This dissembler spins like a top all the time!"

Bill's a fence sitter: he nearly always plays both ends against the middle. Not to mention, why have guests on when HE wants to do all the talking? E.g., He kept interrupting Bernie Goldberg last night (same show as the posted video): O'Reilly had nothing to contribute and he made it very difficult for Goldberg to say what he had to say. But Goldberg knows how to handle O'Reilly—and still get asked on! (So does Megyn Kelly, who takes no crap at all from Bill, who, IMO, isn’t very smart.)

I’m sorry to hear about his dust up with Pamela Geller: he seems to have real trouble presenting the truth—especially if he perceives that someone else might steal his thunder by knowing more than he does (which isn’t very difficult). Last night, Pamela would have been a much better bet than even the estimable Mary Katherine and certainly than the simple-minded (but quite pleasant) Juan Williams.

CJ, are you calling us Islamophobes because you think we fear and suppress our own Islamic tendencies, or because we have an irrational fear of Islam? Either way, you make no sense.

Islam is a real threat to Western civilization - period. It has been for hundreds of years, nothing has changed. There will be violence from Muslims around the world as long as there are infidels, it's that simple.

"Methinks its the other way around."
Posted by: Martin B. at September 14, 2010 1:55 AM

They actually owe each other.
Rauf is playing into the hands of Obama, as O has had Muslim indoctrination and education in his formative years, which he is now defaulting to, especially in high pressure situations like this. His cognative reactions are defaulting to his Muslim core.

Obama actually agrees with the message that Rauf brings to the table and to the airwaves, because they are resonating in O like the calls to prayer heard in Dearborn, Mich. every morning.

Very bad correlation by O’Reilly.

I’m no “Truther” and I certainly have no use for Islam, but there are indeed serious questions about 9/11 that need to be investigated further.

Whatever your personal belief about 9/11 is, there has been an obvious cover-up of some facts and evidence. Without a doubt Islam is involved and physically perpetrated the crimes, the entire Muslim world rejoiced over the killings and terrorist attacks. But somewhere along the line evidence at the crime scene has been tampered with on a large scale, and that should to be a huge concern to everyone in the free world.

There’s nothing wrong with questions and properly conducted independent investigations of such a history changing event. Once completed the matter could be laid to rest.

Yes Knight99, there is nothing wrong with questions and independent though, but what evidence has been tampered with? Can you point to a study that explains more clearly your accusation? I think David Swindle said it best - “I don’t “believe” in anything. I accept all ideas and propositions on a sliding scale of probability for truth. On the subject of 9/11 conspiracy theories, the possibility that the US government was involved in some fashion is certainly possible, however ridiculously improbable. So I feel little need to spend my time wading through Truther arguments.”

Sorry, Billy, we DO know what it's a monument to -- those of us who've done a minimum amount of due diligence on the West's most urgent matter, spending a 100s of hours we'll never get back getting good brief on the Mohammedans. But like all the other elites, Billy, you're too big and busy for that, eh?

I loathe Billy O. Channeling Seinfeld, what's the deal with that flip sing-song cadence anyway? I can't take the cat.

The only cover-up, Knight99, is massive government bureaucratic incompetence going right back thru the two Clinton terms; but I think we have a pretty good picture of this. Nothing new in that. Government is simply not competent enough, ever, to pull off the stunt the Truthers claim. I think it's inadvisable to give any ground whatsoever to these psychotic Truthers.

As to the "9/11 families", that's what, 10,000 or more members of extended family. Just ask yourself what the odds are of a few dozen nutcases in that grief-stricken lot.
I'm with Krauthmammer on this: let's not overdo the 9/11 families angle. That's a side story.

Iman Rauf is having a Rev Wright moment? Shhhh! Keep it quiet everyone.

Map of the human remains discovered around Ground Zero:

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/09/10/news/photos_stories/ground_zero_map090251.jpg

The remains form a visual crescent, a symbol of victory for Islam. And the mosque, right where the star should be.

Wasn't part of a plane (engine) found in the old Burlington Coat factory? Wouldn't that make it part of the impact zone?

Steve Smith @2:50 - yes and yes.*

"...landing gear and fuselage" saith Wiki.

Posted by: Steve Smith>

Yes, for one I have an issue with the fact that ALL the structural steel was collected and shipped as scrape to China within weeks. There was clear photographic evidence from the scene of improper steel severance along with strange melting of some steel beams caught inadvertently on film.

There was no evidence retained as with an aircraft disaster to go back and follow up on eyewitness claims and photo evidence (To either prove or disprove). That is unprofessional and even suspicious with any kind of major accident scenario.

As I stated earlier, I am not a “Truther” per say, but I don’t need to be any kind of media label to know when something smells. I know that Islam is directly responsible for the 9/11 terrorist atrocities against Americans, but at the same time something is not right about the conduct of the investigation that followed, including many suspicious acts towards evidence.

As Me No Dhimmi stated - it may very well be due to incompetence. I understand that, and am inclined to agree. BUT that shouldn’t let anyone off the hook as far as a competency review and a recall of a proper investigation by independent professional sources. The American people deserve that at the very least. I find the reluctance to go back and attempt to sort out “incompetence” and to lay all disbelievers to rest a suspicious act in itself.

Cj...take your anonymous malice elsewhere...

Napoleon Bonaparte said it best and I agree with regard to 911 "truth"...

"Nattribuez jamais a la mailveillance ce que releve purement de l'incompetence."

The theory of controlled demolition is in practice impossible.....the days of preparation and the many tons of explosive needed to be clandestinely moved into the building....not to mention the necessity to have the triggering circuits survive the aircraft impact and fire....and the luck to have the stuff on the correct floor when the point of impact impact was at best very random.

#7 collapsing is not surprising....all the WTC buildings shared a common basement/foundation.....buildings collapsing to a minor tremor(or nothing at all) long after an earthquake is common.

Well Knight99, if it is government incompetence that you're suspicious of, I have little doubt in my mind that the probability of that is high. Same for any government, in any country, at any time, on this planet and all others.

The word of the day: RHETORICAL.

Bill knows he doesn't have to call it the Victory Mosque for everyone to surmise the answer to his statement.

As for Bill's taste in the female guests he regularly invites on his show, they're just as blonde, pretty but infinitely more intelligent than this unfortunate doe:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww

Bill's definitely got taste. I know I'm gonna take flak for this but I'm more of a Greta fan inspite of Bill's eye candy.

Saudi Money has taken the edge from O'Reilly tongue.

Nothing at all irrational about fear and loathing of Islam, except to lobotomized drooling knuckle-dragging hooting feces-throwing monkeytards.

You know what`s the real definition of irony? When someone uses a stupid-sounding MIDI clip of a Beatles song at their website and they haven`t ever bothered actually listening to the lyrics:

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free your mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow.

Dumb...supid...motherf*cker!