"Canada's National Newspaper" on the job:
Guns kill people…but white people must want to kill peoplePosted by Mark at August 28, 2010 9:58 PM
If you want a firearm don't hold your breath waiting for some government official to give you permission to own one simply go buy one privately and quietly and keep your mouth shut about it and there's nothing they can do.
Posted by: john at August 29, 2010 12:20 AMAmazing. This dipshit is saying that us white folks are not getting on the program quick enough.The program is "we are the world".
> No thanks,I'll keep my gun ,just in case the honkie next door gets uppity,or a diverse person tries to take what I own without going through the proper gov't channels. Posted by: wallyj at August 29, 2010 12:41 AMOne slight problem with the gun registration issue. It seems that everyone except the gun owner gets to vote on the issue.
Like, don't we count?
Posted by: Scripto at August 29, 2010 1:02 AMA couple of more things on the gun registry.
I lied on my application. I put Jean Chretien and Paul Martin down as my references,and I put my own phone number down for their number. No one called.I got my license.
Fast forward a few years. I'm in a shipload of trouble (charged,but not convicted),one of my bail conditions is that I could not own,possess,etc. firearms. I was under restrictions for 17 months.
About 6 months into that time,I recieved a letter from the gun registry which gave me a free extension on my licence.
Now some may that mistakes are made,but in my case,they messed up everything. I should have never been issued a license,and certainly I should have never been given the free extension.
Doesn't that make those of you that complied feel better?
Posted by: wallyj at August 29, 2010 1:02 AMLets remember a few things regarding this issue. 1. The American Academy of Scientists reviewed all the studies on gun control, some 260+ of them, and could find none that proved GC works. That is GC of any kind from complete abolition to waiting periods.
2. A pair of European studies (pre GC vs. post GC) found that there may be a correlation with tougher GC and more violent crime.
and 3. Wallyj's story is not unique, but it is not the defining argument. How well it works is not the issue. It's there to disarm the populace when they most need to protect themselves. Canada would not be the first country to decay into complete societal breakdown Mexico and Lebanon come to mind in this regard. Lebanon was once the banking and commerce capital of the Mediterranean. We certainly have brought together all the elements to create a similar future disaster.
I'm white, I live in Vancouver, I don't own a gun, YET I want the long gun registry abolished. One more government department to bite the dust and save us taxpayers some money.
Posted by: tranio at August 29, 2010 1:36 AMI support the golf club registry. Golf clubs are dangerous and can kill people. I don't know why anyone would want to own a golf club. The police should know who has a golf club, and ...
-- Eldrick Woods, Orlando, FL.
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at August 29, 2010 2:20 AMwallyj - Sorry to hear about your situation-best of luck to you. Hang onto that extension letter, it could prove to be helpful if you end up in court. Whatever happened to having a sense of humour?
Posted by: No-One at August 29, 2010 2:36 AMThe point that they can’t get through their thick heads is that – “White rural people” didn’t advocate the multicultural mess that the city dwelling liberal twits put themselves in.
Now they are expected to “bail them out” by giving up their lifestyles on once again false liberal logic that gun control is the answer.
You just don’t get it folks!
What is offensive is the Liberal disharmonizing of the country in their attempt to divide “urban verse rural Canadian”. BTW and they know this well, there are also millions of city dwelling legal and law abiding gun owners that feel the same way as the so called rural duck hunters.
The Liberals brought in the drug selling, gun killing third world, and expect everyone else to pay up with their freedom, liberties and in some cases their lives.
To hell with them.
No-one,thanks,however that situation is long past.I was arrested for defending myself with too much vigour.I was right,they were wrong,case closed,except it cost me much. The letter and sticker are long gone also.
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Sorry to hear that Wallyj >
More than likely they knew your application was messed up to begin with. So they issued, then they waited, and then they pounced.
The mark of any totalitarian regime. If anything it’s your story that should scare the pants off Canadian’s whether they own a gun or not. The noose always tightens first, on civilian gun ownership.
So far Harper seems to be the first Prime Minister in decades that has discussed and made an effort towards reclaiming Canadians freedom from oppressive government via scraping the “Long Gun Registry” and in no small gesture “The Mandatory Census”.
People should respect that for what it’s worth, which is everything.
wallyj
"I was arrested for defending myself with too much vigour."
Yep if all you had done was pop him one(fist) and given him a fat lip...they'da still busted you. A firearms ban/resitriction is standard whether the convicted owns any or whether firearms were involved with the heinous act of self defence.
Actually firearms bans are frequent even in acquitals.......in other words guilty or innocent......
What does the racial make-up of the rural population, or of any population, have to do with this issue, you might wonder? See this for an explanation.
Posted by: Metamorf at August 29, 2010 8:58 AMWhen I was a Mountie, I didn't know one policeman who was for the long gun registry. I could pick up the phone right now and call informants I use to have when I was a cop and get a gun before noon.
The focus of the law it seems is more and more directed at the law abiding citizens instead of the criminal.
Enforce the law....when a person is involved in a crime where a firearm is used....send him to jail for a long time.
Poor Johnny, trying so hard to raise his IQ as high as Al [not so]Sharpton and still failing. The Ontario mindless set at work, yes Virginia, they are that stupid in Toronto.
Posted by: bartinsky at August 29, 2010 10:14 AMPosted by: Mike L. >
Your statement has been well supported by MP Candice Hoeppner.
Candice Hoeppner Aug 23/10 press release:
http://candicehoeppner.com/pg_news/details.asp?ID=181
"....Edmonton police officer Randy Kuntz’s national survey of Canadian police officers revealed that 92 percent of police officers in Canada want Members of Parliament to vote in favour of scrapping the long-gun registry."
Posted by: Knight 99 at August 29, 2010 10:18 AMWhat passes for journalism….
Ibbitson:
(Support for the registry is higher in Quebec, where all 48 Bloc Québécois MPs support it.)
So a collective of socialist (and separatiste) politicians are taken for granted as speaking for their constituents on this matter?
The liberal narrative is perpetuated.
Whether the kleptocrats are in our out of power their sycophants like Ibbitson will continue to act as the public voice of the LPC ... file this under know your enemies.
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sucka$$ political correctness... there's your real problem...
-- Des Moines, IOWA -- "We could see that the victims were white.
And we could see that the offenders were African-American, but
we could not see what provoked or caused the assaults."
guns kill people like crayons write poetry.
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Posted by: neo at August 29, 2010 11:33 AMThe purpose of the gun registry is to be a spiked club to punish rural conservatives for not voting Liberal, and to provide a slush fund for Liberals to distribute as they see fit. That's it. That's the whole thing.
Once you accept that the Liberal government (AND Mulroney's PCs let's not forget Kim Campbell!) made law strictly for their own benefit and not that of the populace, then it all becomes perfectly obvious.
John Ibbitson is simply a propagandist for the Liberal Party. As is the entire Globe and Mail. If more people really understood that, I'm sure the G&M would be out of business in a week.
But as the ranks of "racist, deluded gun huggers" continue to swell while the readership of the Liberal rags continues to shrink, Ibbitson's propaganda is becoming more of an amusing entertainment than a problem.
Unemployment looms, Mr. Ibbitson sir.
Posted by: The Phantom at August 29, 2010 11:54 AM"Conservatives exploit urban/rural divide over long-gun registry"
It might just as easily be argued that the Liberals were exploiting the urban/rural divide over long-gun registry when they legislated it decades ago.
Of course Ibbitson is never conscious of his own dualistic jibbering.
Posted by: Bill at August 29, 2010 12:07 PM"But as the ranks of "racist, deluded gun huggers" continue to swell"
Fortunately, the good citizens of Toronto needn't worry about us rural rednecks invading their territory and shootin' up the place and rapin' their women folk,because we are well aware that in Toronto their are well-armed bands of Patriots looking after their particular are of that great metropolis.
This documentary on "Jane and Finch" leads me to believe it must be the safest part of Canada,well protected by the bands of non-white soldiers of Freedom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBTJkUgRDGU&feature=related
Well done Toronto, we murderous rednecks are suitably cowed,and I'll bet you won't see any of us attacking your city in the near future!
Posted by: dmorris at August 29, 2010 1:16 PM
The Phantom
"But as the ranks of "racist, deluded gun huggers" continue to swell while the readership of the Liberal rags continues to shrink, Ibbitson's propaganda is becoming more of an amusing entertainment than a problem.
Unemployment looms, Mr. Ibbitson sir."
Yeah his career is based on a print medium that is unsupported by his illiterate political element....those who cling to guns and bibles read.....the patriots of Keel and Finch not so much.......
His offensive, elitist, didactic, condescending image/personality prevents any viable career in video journalism....he will likely retire to the U of Ottawa..........
Posted by: sasquatch at August 29, 2010 2:36 PM"The point that they can’t get through their thick heads is that – “White rural people” didn’t advocate the multicultural mess that the city dwelling liberal twits put themselves in".
...and that is precisely the reason why 'they' want your firearms, so that you can't call them on their bullsh*t when it all goes south.
An armed populace makes for polite neighbours (and attentive politicians!)
Posted by: Kursk at August 29, 2010 3:41 PMKursk, you'd think so but one can't tell by looking at Texas, New Mexico and Arizona right now. Perhaps the fan hasn't been hit with enough yet.
It'll be -reeeeealy- interesting to see what kinds of stunts get pulled on Election Day down there though. I don't predict too many union or Acorn thugs (or La Raza, or any of these other freaks)hanging around in front of Arizona polling stations. That could be seriously hazardous.
sasquatch, may his retirement be soon and his class sizes small.
Posted by: The Phantom at August 29, 2010 5:09 PMCall me bad names but I happen to notice an awful lot of gunplay is around public housing rather than the range. Now I'm pretty sure there aren't many duck hunters in the 'hood. I'm also pretty sure that Glock a'int registered either.
So using liberal logic and not Liberal logic, the problem must be with the housing and not the shotgun. Not so much it is not up to par but rather that it exists.